Nice video, not least because you are a likeable guy. Never ever believe the manufacturer’s claimed range on anything electric, including cars. As a rule of thumb, half it and then take off another 10 to 15%. Ps. You look like a young Lionel Richie.
Thanks Luke, I had the same experience. The range is pretty disappointing compared to the published figure (I have the pro which advertises 50km). My commute to work is 4 miles and I thought I'd have masses of range to spare, I was wrong. I also made the mistake of using the red mode first day and only just made it home on my commute. I'd only used a rental scooter before buying this and I couldn't believe how bad the pure was on hills by comparison. I'm getting used to it now, but I think I'd shop round a bit in future.
Got the Pro RL version and the Pure air 30km version, the 60km one if you go in sport mode can reach 50-55km and the other one can reach 22-27km, but never 30 or 60km becouse for that you need to help the scooter, and be gently with the acelerator.
Your weight makes a significant difference on these scooters A 50kg person plus 20kg scooter = 70kg total A 100kg person plus 20kg scooter = 120kg 70kg vs 120kg is of course a vast difference. The 50kg person might get 30km while the 100kg person might only get 17kg
Just a guess but the 30km probably has to be on the lowest settings and perfect conditions. Like on a treadmill, perfectly flat conditions. Absolute minimum weight allowed. Perfect tire pressure. Guarantee the surface used for the 30km was extremely smooth(low friction) and extremely flat. That's how they get away with the misleading figures. In all honesty I really don't care that it doesn't go 30km in medium setting, I don't need it for that. I care that it can fly up hills, safe, and waterproof. Great video though. With all these factors I actually think it's impressive it made it 18km. In the battery industry, a 40% difference in theoretical vs reality actually isn't bad. In other appliances it's way worse.
I’ve had the self same Pure 2nd gen scooter for a year and can testify to the accuracy of your mileage test. I’m almost of the nefarious opinion that Pure swapped out kilometres for miles so a more accurate description would be 18km as opposed to 18 miles. Obviously this is frustrating, concerning and irritating, all in one. I am surprised, that in these litigious times that Pure haven’t been prosecuted under the Trades Descriptions Act 2015. It’s not the odd mile or two but almost half it’s reputed distance. I was going to purchase the Long Ranger version which purportedly does 50km (31.069 miles) but based on the constant disappointments with my machine, I’ve waved that idea off. It’s a pity because Pure have mangled any trust it’s customers have in their otherwise excellently handling machines. So whilst you can get good customer service in shops and the machines are genuinely waterproof and durable, one of its vaunted capabilities exist only in the minds of Pure marketeers. Back to the drawing board Pure or your going to get into real trouble when somebody is stuck in the middle of nowhere and finds themselves in real pickle.
@@lukegarnes3689 Excellent informal reportage style btw. I found this report accessible and consistent throughout. Telling us about how you shopped, cooked and showered before sitting down at minutes to midnight was a cosy touch that all of us could relate to. Keep it up mate.
As with literally any device like this, the “max range” figures are always based on perfect conditions, perfect temperature, straight line, no hills, weight of rider testing it, etc etc, and of course the SPEED you ride which in a factory range test will never be max speed….All of these variables can make a MASSIVE difference to the range when compared to real world usage. Since we live in the UK then most of the time it’s going to be cold, which isn’t optimal for batteries like this which perform better when they are hot. Add in some rough roads, rider weight, hills, driving with the thumb pinned on max speed like in this video, and it’s going to be impossible to reach the optimal max range figure from the website in the real world…. It actually even mentions all of these variables on the website as well. I understand the frustration when it feels like you’re not getting what is advertised, but this kind of thing is absolutely standard for all devices like this, exactly just like how they sell cars with their rated MPG which in reality, you never reach because that too is based on and tested in perfect conditions. You’ll notice all the ranges also say “up to xx miles” so it’s never a guarantee. I’ve also noticed that a lot of people fail to calibrate their batteries properly, or calibrate them in ‘sport’ mode, which also can seriously affect the performance of the battery pack. Personally, i own the Pure Air 3 Pro + , and although i haven’t reached the max range advertised (up to 31 mile), i have managed 27 miles on a nice sunny day, in standard mode in pretty normal conditions with a few minor hills here and there, and i stopped before the battery completely died out as well.
Thanks for the video, very informative, I am looking for an electric scooter which is good on hills, and hesitating between the Pure Air second gen or the Pure Air Pro second gen and Pure Air Pro LR, all three have the 500 w motor except the Air Pro Lr can go up to 700 w. I live in a very hilly area, so I dont need the range so much as it will be for short distance use but I need the power to go up those hills. Thank you for your advice.
I don’t know the exact technicalities but It has a dual braking system which at least part of is electronic so it uses battery power when braking. This is why I said in the video that it’s better to preempt stopping distance and roll to stop rather than braking hard last minute to preserve battery.
@@lukegarnes3689 it won’t drain the battery braking. It has regen braking. So if anything when you brake the E brake on the rear wheel actually charges the battery!
I' noticed you put it in high mode to get over the brige maybe that killed your battery life as it does I've got a 2nd generation aswell great log though
Hi Luke, thanks for the detailed video. Just a question: which alarm did you fit to it? I ordered that scooter today and I am interested in fitting an alarm as well before using it.
Trouble with pure is that it gets loose at the folding mechanism, you can slightly move the stem back and forth, and tightening it up doesn't make it stable or solid again.
I would definitely recommend it and at that price is an absolute steel! Not sure about the Xiaomi but the Pure Air is fully waterproof so that and the solid build quality makes it a winner.
@@packsandpotions8402 which one would you suggest more? Both seem great but I haven’t found any videos comparing the two so I don’t know which ones better
Hello Luke, what is your experience with the police riding the e-scooter, I am asking you to know if you really really need a CBT or license or they leave you alone if you don't cause any violations?
Well I used the middle mode for this test so the only other mode is walking pace which would take forever lol. No I’ve never had any problems with the police 😊
I’d say go for it mate, they are definitely decent systems. My mate has the one your thinking of getting which is the step up from mine. It’s meant to have a max range of 30 miles but just don’t expect that. The max ranges they state can only happen in completely optimal conditions, no wind, no braking, flat surface and a 50kg rider. Let me know how you get on 👍🏾
I’ve just checked mine and It doesn’t really spin freely but when you do manually try to spin it there is a slight sound which sounds like the motor to me. Hope this helps 😊
I think your thinking of the wrong one. I have the the Pure AIR 2nd Gen which definitely states it has a range of 30km (18miles)… I had look and you sound like your referring to the Pure GO 2nd Gen which does only have 20km range.
@@fortnitedragon0 I was on the white S mode as it appears on the scooter which is the slower of the two fastest modes. The only other mode is walking pace. That said I think the test was pretty accurate.
No le dura nada la batería al basico al de 299 euros 250 vatios. Yo lo compre. Y en 3 semanas lo vendi. Hacia 16 kilómetros 17 máximo me dejo tirado 2 veces. Y lo vendi aburrido. Ya te digo lo tuve 3 semanas. Y tuve bastante. 😅😅
Don’t wanna sound to negative but you just done a review on a scooter that you’ve openly admitted you dont know what it’s correct name is. Not a great start is it. Constructive criticism
Pretty pointless comment you have written there bud. Being unsure of the correct name of the scooter (which I did eventually get right) doesn’t change the review of its battery function and overall range but thanks 🙃
Nice video, not least because you are a likeable guy.
Never ever believe the manufacturer’s claimed range on anything electric, including cars. As a rule of thumb, half it and then take off another 10 to 15%.
Ps. You look like a young Lionel Richie.
Love the positivity. ♥
Thanks Luke, I had the same experience. The range is pretty disappointing compared to the published figure (I have the pro which advertises 50km). My commute to work is 4 miles and I thought I'd have masses of range to spare, I was wrong. I also made the mistake of using the red mode first day and only just made it home on my commute. I'd only used a rental scooter before buying this and I couldn't believe how bad the pure was on hills by comparison. I'm getting used to it now, but I think I'd shop round a bit in future.
Got the Pro RL version and the Pure air 30km version, the 60km one if you go in sport mode can reach 50-55km and the other one can reach 22-27km, but never 30 or 60km becouse for that you need to help the scooter, and be gently with the acelerator.
Your weight makes a significant difference on these scooters
A 50kg person plus 20kg scooter = 70kg total
A 100kg person plus 20kg scooter = 120kg
70kg vs 120kg is of course a vast difference. The 50kg person might get 30km while the 100kg person might only get 17kg
Just a guess but the 30km probably has to be on the lowest settings and perfect conditions. Like on a treadmill, perfectly flat conditions. Absolute minimum weight allowed. Perfect tire pressure. Guarantee the surface used for the 30km was extremely smooth(low friction) and extremely flat. That's how they get away with the misleading figures. In all honesty I really don't care that it doesn't go 30km in medium setting, I don't need it for that. I care that it can fly up hills, safe, and waterproof. Great video though. With all these factors I actually think it's impressive it made it 18km. In the battery industry, a 40% difference in theoretical vs reality actually isn't bad. In other appliances it's way worse.
I’ve had the self same Pure 2nd gen scooter for a year and can testify to the accuracy of your mileage test. I’m almost of the nefarious opinion that Pure swapped out kilometres for miles so a more accurate description would be 18km as opposed to 18 miles. Obviously this is frustrating, concerning and irritating, all in one. I am surprised, that in these litigious times that Pure haven’t been prosecuted under the Trades Descriptions Act 2015. It’s not the odd mile or two but almost half it’s reputed distance.
I was going to purchase the Long Ranger version which purportedly does 50km (31.069 miles) but based on the constant disappointments with my machine, I’ve waved that idea off. It’s a pity because Pure have mangled any trust it’s customers have in their otherwise excellently handling machines. So whilst you can get good customer service in shops and the machines are genuinely waterproof and durable, one of its vaunted capabilities exist only in the minds of Pure marketeers. Back to the drawing board Pure or your going to get into real trouble when somebody is stuck in the middle of nowhere and finds themselves in real pickle.
Here here 👍🏾
@@lukegarnes3689 Excellent informal reportage style btw. I found this report accessible and consistent throughout. Telling us about how you shopped, cooked and showered before sitting down at minutes to midnight was a cosy touch that all of us could relate to. Keep it up mate.
As with literally any device like this, the “max range” figures are always based on perfect conditions, perfect temperature, straight line, no hills, weight of rider testing it, etc etc, and of course the SPEED you ride which in a factory range test will never be max speed….All of these variables can make a MASSIVE difference to the range when compared to real world usage. Since we live in the UK then most of the time it’s going to be cold, which isn’t optimal for batteries like this which perform better when they are hot. Add in some rough roads, rider weight, hills, driving with the thumb pinned on max speed like in this video, and it’s going to be impossible to reach the optimal max range figure from the website in the real world…. It actually even mentions all of these variables on the website as well.
I understand the frustration when it feels like you’re not getting what is advertised, but this kind of thing is absolutely standard for all devices like this, exactly just like how they sell cars with their rated MPG which in reality, you never reach because that too is based on and tested in perfect conditions. You’ll notice all the ranges also say “up to xx miles” so it’s never a guarantee.
I’ve also noticed that a lot of people fail to calibrate their batteries properly, or calibrate them in ‘sport’ mode, which also can seriously affect the performance of the battery pack. Personally, i own the Pure Air 3 Pro + , and although i haven’t reached the max range advertised (up to 31 mile), i have managed 27 miles on a nice sunny day, in standard mode in pretty normal conditions with a few minor hills here and there, and i stopped before the battery completely died out as well.
Keep the videos going bro not many on UA-cam of the pure air
Hi all, what do I have to search for to get the app in this UA-cam please, I want to change the speed from Km to MPH but don’t know how to do it.
Fantastic luke, I'm planning on getting this model very soon, your video, Big help
How many minute we use the scooter bactery
Thanks for the video, very informative, I am looking for an electric scooter which is good on hills, and hesitating between the Pure Air second gen or the Pure Air Pro second gen and Pure Air Pro LR, all three have the 500 w motor except the Air Pro Lr can go up to 700 w. I live in a very hilly area, so I dont need the range so much as it will be for short distance use but I need the power to go up those hills. Thank you for your advice.
Which one did you get in the end?
I've got one ..I live in a very hilly area ..it's brilliant on hills.
I think the full mile range is based on straight runs only without going up hills
Can we get a video of fitting the alarm and a link where you got yours from please 🙏🏼
🤣
That would be very helpful indeed !
I made a video on fitting the alarm which is now on my channel. Latest video 👍🏾
Why would braking deplete the battery? 🤔
I don’t know the exact technicalities but It has a dual braking system which at least part of is electronic so it uses battery power when braking. This is why I said in the video that it’s better to preempt stopping distance and roll to stop rather than braking hard last minute to preserve battery.
@@lukegarnes3689 it won’t drain the battery braking. It has regen braking. So if anything when you brake the E brake on the rear wheel actually charges the battery!
@@lukegarnes3689 No, when you brake you use the motor to regen the battery. +Brake = More battery
Hello ! Thanks for this video 💪 I have a question : Did you know how to fix the "r8" problem with a red 🔧 on the 🛴's screen ? Thanks a lot 🙏✨
Hey Unfortunately I don’t 😕 Can you send me a picture of the problem on Instagram @lukegarnes.
@@lukegarnes3689 Consider it done 🙂
I' noticed you put it in high mode to get over the brige maybe that killed your battery life as it does I've got a 2nd generation aswell great log though
Hi mate what alarm was it you used thanks
Hey man, there’s another video on my channel I made about the alarm and how to fit it 👍🏾
Very helpful thanks luke!
Good video Luke got the same version I love it 👍
thankyou sir very informative. Excellent review.
Hi Luke, thanks for the detailed video. Just a question: which alarm did you fit to it? I ordered that scooter today and I am interested in fitting an alarm as well before using it.
I have made a video on what alarm I fitted and how, I think it’s my most recent video on my channel. Thanks bro.
Trouble with pure is that it gets loose at the folding mechanism, you can slightly move the stem back and forth, and tightening it up doesn't make it stable or solid again.
That’s the thing, you can rebuild it into a certain way so that you can have a block to stop the folding mechanism.
Thinking of getting one. its on sale for £379 now . would you recommend it ? or Xiaomi ? first time buyer
I would definitely recommend it and at that price is an absolute steel! Not sure about the Xiaomi but the Pure Air is fully waterproof so that and the solid build quality makes it a winner.
Xiaomi pro 2 and pure air pro 2nd gen are both very good youll be disappointed by neither
@@packsandpotions8402 which one would you suggest more? Both seem great but I haven’t found any videos comparing the two so I don’t know which ones better
Dose it take up alot of electricity when charging
Not really sure but I haven’t noticed any spikes in my bill
Hello Luke, what is your experience with the police riding the e-scooter, I am asking you to know if you really really need a CBT or license or they leave you alone if you don't cause any violations?
Hey Adrian. I’ve personally never had any issues in over a year of use. Like you said it’s your just riding sensibly, they’ll leave you be.
@@lukegarnes3689 Much respect for answering in such short notice and so nice. Thank you Luke.
a cbt won't make any difference
because they not legal lol
Would it go further if you had it on a slower setting ? Have you had any problems with the police riding your scooter ??
Well I used the middle mode for this test so the only other mode is walking pace which would take forever lol. No I’ve never had any problems with the police 😊
@@lukegarnes3689 there is a high speed mode do you know how far u get if you just use that constantly
So I'm looking to get the pure air pro 2nd gen. Never had a scooter before. Question is should I or shouldn't I?
I’d say go for it mate, they are definitely decent systems. My mate has the one your thinking of getting which is the step up from mine. It’s meant to have a max range of 30 miles but just don’t expect that. The max ranges they state can only happen in completely optimal conditions, no wind, no braking, flat surface and a 50kg rider. Let me know how you get on 👍🏾
@@lukegarnes3689 thanks, I think I'm going for it. Next week hopefully 👍
Do a video how to reset them
new to pure e scooter should back wheel make noise when you spin freely or make noise not sure 😉 don't no if it sound of motor or grinden
I’ve just checked mine and It doesn’t really spin freely but when you do manually try to spin it there is a slight sound which sounds like the motor to me. Hope this helps 😊
@@lukegarnes3689 cheers for the reply does your back wheel make grinden noise when you brake now and then
Getting up hills is more important to me
The second gen is only 20km not 30km on the pure website.
So 17.2 I don’t think is so bad!
I think your thinking of the wrong one. I have the the Pure AIR 2nd Gen which definitely states it has a range of 30km (18miles)… I had look and you sound like your referring to the Pure GO 2nd Gen which does only have 20km range.
Doesn’t Draining the battery to empty effect it’s life
Anyone know how to remove the speed limiter on these
How can we make it faster they must be a way
No idea bro but that would be cool.
Take the speed limiter out
This helps cheers
So basic rule is that whatever they advertise its about half in real life.
You got the wrong scooter bro its the pure air pro 2nd gen that does 31km yours is capped at 18km i believe you have the pure air, i could be wrong
He literally said in the video that its quoted range is 18 miles (not kilometres).
The 2nd gen Pure Air supposedly has a range of 31 MILES
@@g.pmoore4293 that’s for the Air Pro, the standard Pure Air 2nd gen is 18km
I think that’s just the old version the 2 gen
No I have the newest version of the 2nd Gen. I wasn’t sure there was an old version.
@@lukegarnes3689 oh maybe it’s because you was on sports mode
@@fortnitedragon0 I was on the white S mode as it appears on the scooter which is the slower of the two fastest modes. The only other mode is walking pace. That said I think the test was pretty accurate.
No le dura nada la batería al basico al de 299 euros 250 vatios. Yo lo compre. Y en 3 semanas lo vendi. Hacia 16 kilómetros 17 máximo me dejo tirado 2 veces. Y lo vendi aburrido. Ya te digo lo tuve 3 semanas. Y tuve bastante. 😅😅
You got a pure air pro
No 2nd gen
2 gen
Don’t wanna sound to negative but you just done a review on a scooter that you’ve openly admitted you dont know what it’s correct name is. Not a great start is it. Constructive criticism
Pretty pointless comment you have written there bud. Being unsure of the correct name of the scooter (which I did eventually get right) doesn’t change the review of its battery function and overall range but thanks 🙃
@@lukegarnes3689 literally
450😳😳😬😬I can’t even afford a £100 /$100 scooter💀
Someone needs a job
km miles low key