This was the most balanced and insightful analysis of how the US women's team's performed at the World Cup I've seen. His assessment of its weaknesses, which too many analysts have focused exclusively on, AND its strengths was refreshing. Learning why Rapinoe's choke was no surprise and the phrase "don't play the game you dream, play the game you can" were worth listening to the video by themselves.
Thank you Roger for bringing on Jonas Eidevall. I was so impressed with his in-match analysis with you, Sam and Becky on Twitch. We definitely need a new manager with his level of tactical understanding. I hope he is seriously considered. A pod conversation discussing how US Soccer can improve their girls youth development would also be interesting.
I think you Americans should take a look around you, here in the Netherlands women's football was an amateur sport until even in 2019 we have a pro league since 2 years 2021 I don't know how long in America women's soccer has been pro but I think definitely more than 15 years I think that now more countries are taking women's football seriously we have Ajax Amsterdam that stands for world class men talents on the Assembly line if this club wil pomp money into woman football we will have fast superstars
An excellent , thoughtful interview with a coach who has substance and critical insight. The coach spoke with a respect for the game and all who participate in it. No bluster. No empty statements. Beautiful! The players, the game and all who make the beautiful game a reality deserve this level of intelligence and grace. Thank you.
Jonas is now an honorary Englishmen after his always brilliant studio analysis and commentary ! We (everyone i talk to about it) love listening to him!
@@pinkknight9 yep. He spoke about she hung in there when her club hired one lead goalie after another while she was second. She can play in a pressure game for sure.
Amazing insight from Jonas. Huge respect for him as a coach. I also love that he has such a great relationship with Tobin Heath. The season she played for him at Arsenal was such a blast to watch.
Asking Jonas Eidevall how to stop Sam Kerr was peak comedy! Had to say it, but thanks to Jonas for your considered and thoughtful analysis on the current state of the USWNT.
Great interview. Thank you, Jonas. I would have loved to have a coach like you when I was young and a talented player in Germany. That's a while ago😂. Now as a women's football coach, talent scout and consultant for girls football academies in Indonesia and India I really enjoyed listening to your realistic way of explaining things ... Well done. Would love to talk and share thoughts about talent scouting in Asia in real life🎉⚽
Eidevall was a brilliant interviewee. It's crazy but it went beyond great insight into the USWNT results and into insightful advice on life, in particular how one grows in a skill/profession. 👏🏼
Great analysis! There is a reason why a you have to look overseas to get this kind of clear-headed analysis. US does not understand soccer. We had a great run for a while because of the investment, but from now on it will take a lot more than that to stay relevant…
Rog, our girls will be back. But, there is going to be a real house cleaning; new fed, new coach, new system. They already have the parts, they just need the right architect to put it all together.
Excellent observations! The USWNT national team had an INdecisive coach who picked poor rosters and also did NOT adjust. I still think had their NOT been so many injuries to so many game changing players, they easily three peat! However, this team was indeed good enough to go further and maybe even win it. Too bad, Vlatko really cost the team.
Apart from divisive Rapinoe, there in nothing wrong with USWNT, but other countries have caught up, they are still a capable winning team, the best team does not always win.
This isn’t going to be a lock tournament for any team. The passion is at an all time high and the USWNT was missing that component. They did play better than Sweden for the 120 minutes. I was happy to hear one of the commenters say that he could not see any sign that any of the ladies were flagging. Fitness wasn’t an issue. I hate to see a coach leave right after a dismal showing in a tournament. He is reaponsible for team performance but he doesn’t play. I really did like to see the game. I thought play was good on both sides. I was completely dismayed at the trolling brought on by the talk about the National Anthem after the first game.
I will say this: With the amount of change that has happened between 2019 to 2023, there’s really no reason to say this should’ve been an easy tournament for the US. We should’ve done better, but there’s so much work that needs to be done with this new squad. Rodman showed she’s adapting to the NT, Smith has hit a wall, DeMelo is certainly needed, and Horan proved she should start. There’s much more that can be discussed but I’m sure in 2027, we’ll see this team come together and be extremely dangerous.
13:07 jonas' point on succession planning is massive. Vlatko is the tip of the iceberg. Some blame on Jill Ellis and the federation (especially yourh development program) is needed imo
I think the Sweden game showed a pre peaking squad. I’d like to see the uswnt schedule a friendly with the WC winners after the tournament to see how much things change
That was a great interview. Since Jonas mentioned "scouting" intentions among the Clubs, perhaps they might look into a teenager called Onyeka Gomero, who is of mixed heritage, having a Nigerian father and a Spanish mother, both American citizens: (what could be more American than that ?). She is qualified to play for the USA and also Nigeria. She received very high marks when she played in the World under-16 Tournament, last year. She was in tears that she had been rejected by the US Authorities and the Spanish clubs were willing to catch her up.
Gamero is very good. She and Thompson give me hope that we can "make them right" and aren't just putting out track stars with soccer cleats. Though we still have a long way to go as our recent international youth results have been disappointing.
@@winger0611-jl I agree, the USA girls U17, U20 teams are not producing like they used. Recently, one of these teams lost the concacaf championship game to Mexico, this is very concerning.
No I think she said she had an open green light to play for Nigeria, but not for Spain, or the US.. There is another teen ager, Vicky Lopez, who was also in the under 16 tournament, who is half Nigerian and half Spanish,. She was immediately grabbed up by Barcelona women's team and is doing her residency requirements for becoming Spanish. They might fast track her.@@jlb74a
We had so many balls crossed the box. Nobody to finish them. We needed Smith at the 9 and saving her energy to score. I would've had Dunn in the mid also. Definitely changed formation to a. 442 or 451. This would actually open up more with runs.
Next time we’ll have a team of peak age global superstars on a mission-a pissed off monstrous beast of a squad that’ll be better than any we’ve seen before. We want that fifth star over the badge!
A brilliant interview and analysis. Jonas's point about peak years very telling, and it is just more evidence how Mal Swanson's injury (age 25) hurt the performance of this team.
Carli Lloyd's comments this morning that Vlatko abandoned 2 a day practices because veteran players complained was damning. If Vlatko willingly caved then he should have been fired yesterday, but if the federation forced Vlatko to cave then Kate Markgraf and the other federation pooh-bahs needed to be fired yesterday.
Both US men and women U-19, U-21 and U-23 teams have been losing and underachieving for many years, getting beaten by lower-ranked teams. That's not a good sign.
Then again the rankings work in such a way that the US will be ranked higher than their actual ability since they only play against their own confederation.
@@Mrsuperdestroyer Yes, rankings are often unfair, but the main point is that these US youth teams who are failing to win major tournaments like U-23 World Cup, are producing the players who will be in future USMNT and USWNT rosters. It's a question of player quality, coaching or both.
@@streetgato9697i think it's more about the level of opponent catching up, the rest of the world are now investing in women's football and development of players. Previously the USA players looked fitter and better prepared than everybody else so they could name the best 11 players and blow other teams away. Going forwards they will have to build functional teams and switch to developing players to technically match the Europeans who are now getting access to top level academies and coaching from the biggest clubs in the world.
Not being blunt to anyone in particular, what I really believe is that there is nothing wrong with the USWNT in its build up to this game against SWEDEN. Perhaps the only flaw in preparing this game is in deciding whether Megan Rapinoe should play at all, and if so, should Rapinoe start the game. There is apparently a pretty good. game spirit and boasted morale so the mentality is right to play an offensive game, control the temperament, and growing into the game to break down the resistance of SWEDEN. When you have transition of players of different generation as much as fourteen rookies in your squad, you know you've got to have experienced players as mentors on the pitch to guide them, to encourage them and to help orchestrate the play. The one thing that have gone wrong is to select Megan Rapinoe in the first place. True that she is an icon, but being an icon doesn't mean she can be a key player in such a live or die contest. This is a knockout game. Like it or not, if you are not game fit to a 150% physically and mentally, don't play her at all! Megan Rapinoe was completely out of the game in regards to her preparedness and game readiness. She failed to lift the soccer ball in her corner kicks and the ball fell short of 10 yards or so reaching a desirable spot in the 6 yard box. As a matter of fact, her two corner attempts failed to send the ball overhead to a US player, which didn't even reach the near post 3 feet above ground. That weakness exemplified when she voluntarily took a 45-yard out freekick in the dying minutes of the game that her delivery was as as weak as her corner kicks. That kick again didn't reach her teammates waiting earnestly in the penalty box. That said, she didn't even show the agility, strength and the ability to beat any opponent, let alone ball possession. So, the obvious mistake, let me say again, is to include Megan Rapinoe in the squad from the start of the tournament. This is not a tactical mistake, this is a management mistake, and the blame goes to ??? All teams have generation transition issues, when players like Rapinoe and Morgan are in their late professional age, selecting them is a risk. I say there is no specific issue or something wrong for the USWNT in this tournament is true because your squad with these aging players plus immature rookies are bound to fail. And the truth is there is no longevity for star players. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo went through the same decline and cause PSG and Manchester United a lot to play them regularly. Both did not end their career well with these elite clubs. There is no longevity for any team as well. You win a title this season, you'll be defending your title in the next. How many teams in the world are serial winners succeeding in defending their titles year after year? Real Madrid, Juventus, Manchester City, Barcelona? the same goes to the USWNT. The same fate, and the same cost associated with naming your iconic, beloved celebrity player on your team sheet. I still am adamant in saying there is nothing wrong with the USWNT because they played as a team. It's their opponents who played well, didn't have the same issue in their teams, and they were not suffering with too many aging or rookies in their teams!
A healthy Mal Swanson changes everything in my mind. I know injuries always play a role... but we had A LOT. Sauerbraun, Swanson, Macario... tell me that doesn't have us winning the group and not facing Sweden at all. 2 of those 3 are in that prime range you duscuss.
Mentality is a massive part of a winning sports team . But its just Americas mentality going into this tournament was they just had to turn up and take part to win the game .and its their god given right to make the final
Top talented athletes usually are highly skilled at other sports . Very common to be recruited to play softball and volleyball at the collegiate level and abandon one for the other because of scholarships .
While it is fashionable to trash the USA front line (and justified) we have to remember that lots of big teams with world class forwards also failed to to score as well. Scoring touch seems to ebb and flow a lot in women's soccer. Vlatko's big mistake was taking Rapinoe who was useless for all but marketing purposes instead of Hatch or some other striker that was in form. It might not hove worked but it would have given him another round in the chamber that maybe could have paid off.
@@patriciatorres5667 Carli scored 16 goals in 2019 year including 3 in the world cup. Not one of her greatest campaigns but far from useless. By comparison the entire team scored 4 goals for the entire 2023 world cup.
The fact that the BBC has Jonas and Emma Hayes and others commentaring and analyzing games and we have Carli and Lalas talking about "mentality" and their big feelings...
I play n coach soccer. You don't win all the time. In my 1st year at a school, I was told from the Varsity coach that the players I had would win just some games. We won a tournament championship, a conference championship, n were undefeated. I had to make sure to keep them in line. In my 2nd year, I was told that the new players were better from the Varsity coach. I had to fix several things because I didn't think they were as good as the previous year's players. We still did well n only had 3 losses.
Wrong coach, wrong players, wrong tactics, no esprit de corps in the team. Emily Sonnet and Naomi Girma were magnificent! Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe were total duds.
EUROPEANS commentator are so much more logical than US. Most US commentators are political, some ditched their own national team because of dislike of some players like Rapinoe.
Perhaps Sam addition at this moment to the Australian team may not be as productive because of what was said. Sometimes you have to go with the well-balanced team instead of bunch of great individuals. We'll see.
While I get where you are going I have to disagree- really not that complicated-especially after hearing Carly Lloyd talk about the disrespectful culture on the team. Two things broke down- poor coaching and poor leadership within the team. The coach did not work them hard enough, break them down and build them back up as a team. He played players who simply did not produce and kept going back to them. Set plays were mediocre to poor, finishing was weak. And he allowed a lazy, entitled atmosphere to exist throughout training. Team culture- Rapione should not have been on the team period. She is way past her prime and her play showed it every time she stepped on the pitch. And more importantly she is a self important princess who has screwed with team culture for years. In the end a huge portion of the country hated her and disliked the team as a result. What other country has a large part of the population hating their national team. They are there to play soccer, not politics. In the end they did not work hard enough in preparation and as a result played poorly and played as a team of individuals until the last game when it was too late.
@@TheMarpalm your observations are just minor part of the fix. The US culture of hubris, exceptionalism, arrogance, ignorance and omnipotence, is their greatest handicap. The gall and the disgusting arrogant impertinence to imagine they might have something of any worth they would compel the world to comply with, is simple evidence of karma working it's unerring magic. This cultural disadvantage will take decades to overcome. If the US women's team really want to gauge their correct position on the global soccer ladder, they need look no further than the position occupied by their men's team. I don't see them offering helpful hints and tips to Messi, Ronaldo, MANU or Barcelona FC. They'll get to learn fairly quickly just where they fit in international soccer and may accept a schooling in how to spell humility and respect and how these two words might be used in a sentence. They could worry about strategies after that 🇭🇲
You need the better score after 5 PKs and by that point Sweden had already taken 4 and missed 2 of them. So if Smith had scored the US would have 4 and Sweden couldn’t tie it to make it to sudden death.
The only GREAT player on the USWNT during the world cup was Savannah DeMelo. She fougjt every ball, and created great plays for the US. The coach is a fool for taking her out of the game at half time against Holland. I don't think she saw any more minutes after that. But the USWNT really took a turn fir the worse without her on the pitch.
I have just watched 4 US based programs that purported to analyse the US loss. Talk about hopeless. All they wanted to talk about was the political aspects. There's a problem in itself. I hope the US top brass watch this analysis - because it is an analysis not a rant. Thanks.
The US lacks a natural goal scorer who is great at putting the ball in net all the time!!!! Marta from Brazil is the top women's world cup scorer, 17 goals!!!! Several other countries are producing an out and out no.9, i know there are certain football coaches and experts who will compare the women to the men!!!!
Lack of necessary preparation Vlatko sent the players back to play in league the month before World Cup because he didn’t know what else to do with them! He has been an epic failure. We hadn’t played together as a unit for several weeks. We lost Dawn to England and now look how fit they are. We looked weak. Jill was a strategist. Who to play in what game. Vlatko just didn’t want to start any gays. His homophobia in selecting players and who to play was obvious. Where did all the gays go Vlatko? Epic failure to see the quality of play over his own prejudice. What strategies did he change? Same old up the sides and cross to the middle but no one was there to receive the pass. Controlling the ball gained momentum as they played together, but three games into the World Cup is a little late.
Messi is the GOAT. no doubt. Rapinoe didn't play good, neither Alex Morgan, three games and no goals? When you compound this with teams packing their defense with 4 or 5 players, USA had fewer chances to score. This same situation happened on the Olympics, the US federation should had a new coach then.
Yeah 20 years ago the pay to play system wasn’t as vicious or massive or as greedy and they had not removed the high school platform. Only the rich can afford to play and they are rarely the best
Our rich sorority girls are no longer good enough to dominate now that other countries care at all about women's soccer. Unless and until we revamp pay to play and enable working class and poor kids to play high level soccer we are on an unstoppable downward slide relative to the rest of the world.
Strategic Incompetence. The best roster in history, 4 years to prepare. Found a way to fail. Who thought Vlatko was even a good choice? Nearly got beat by Portugal!! Portugal!!! Let Jill Ellis choose the next coach? Make sure whoever chose Vlatko doesn’t choose again. Don’t , please don’t set these gals up for failure! A proven world class coach. please
Jonas is not really telling the truth like he was on UK television about this team. More just telling the host what he wants to hear…. How much was he paid?
The team has a toxic culture, it needs a total revamp. The current USWNT is reviled in countries around the world for its extreme arrogance. Those over-the-top 'look at me, look at me' celebrations after running up the score against much weaker opponents, and similarly obnoxious behavior, needs to end.
They were achampion team and were respected outside the US. Politics has played a part in women's football all over the world. The problem in the US is that it is a divided country in itself.
These women took everything for granted and it smacked them in the face with karmic perfection. Rapinoe summed it up perfectly after the match - the only pride she took from the honor of representing her country is getting paid. We had our golden age and now the rest of the world has caught up. All downhill from here.
This players are not longer a team!! There is division within the team. Some of the girls are just girls that are not proud of the country they play for. Some of These girls does not even sing the national anthem for their country!! USA is divided!!
Thank you 15! Now we don’t have to hear your narrative. OUT, Now can we just watch “people” play a game and those happy to rep the flag and team they are from.
The mother-players (Dunn, Morgan, Ertz) did not provide the top play US fans are used to. I did not recognized Dunn at all, her game was very sloppy in many areas. Morgan was careless with many chances on goal and missed a penalty against Vietnam. Ert was solid but did not provide the support in the attack that we have seen before. We have seen proof at this WC, it is evident female players cannot come back to their top playing level post-partum. Should the USWNT reject players with children?
I’ll tell you what went wrong. They cared more about virtue signaling than actual soccer. And they paid the price. And judging from the amount of Americans that rooted for them to lose, I’m not the only one that feels that way. They should have put 100% of their effort into training.
American success in womens football has been based on the length of time the game has been going in the states, the huge comparative investment and the lack of competition from abroad, those days are over, worst thing is Americans could never enjoy the teams success because of the toxic culture they embraced, and poor old rapinoe, no matter what she might gave done in the past, her legacy will be the penalty miss.
FIRST, FRST, FIRST,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ALL OF THE CURRENT PLAYERS NEED TO BE FIRED FROM THE USWNT IMMEDIATELY AND REPLACED WITH PATRIOTS THAT CAN PLAY SOCCER; MAYBE A TEAM THAT CAN BEAT 14 Y/Old BOYS OR AT LEAST BE COMPETITIVE WITH THEM!
Your comment clearly shows your ignorance. The USWNT lost the 2011 final by PKs to Japan (Carli Lloyd lost her kick) and as a result of that, the federation changed things and created the current dinasty. A new one must be created now, if handled properly, failure is just success in progress.
Lots of ignorance on display here from people who clearly didn’t listen to this program and the terrific insight Jonas provided, but just wanted to jump on and spew their misogyny and homophobia. This team will be back with a vengeance, and it’ll be fun to watch.
This was the most balanced and insightful analysis of how the US women's team's performed at the World Cup I've seen. His assessment of its weaknesses, which too many analysts have focused exclusively on, AND its strengths was refreshing. Learning why Rapinoe's choke was no surprise and the phrase "don't play the game you dream, play the game you can" were worth listening to the video by themselves.
Thank you Roger for bringing on Jonas Eidevall. I was so impressed with his in-match analysis with you, Sam and Becky on Twitch. We definitely need a new manager with his level of tactical understanding. I hope he is seriously considered. A pod conversation discussing how US Soccer can improve their girls youth development would also be interesting.
I think you Americans should take a look around you, here in the Netherlands women's football was an amateur sport until even in 2019 we have a pro league since 2 years 2021 I don't know how long in America women's soccer has been pro but I think definitely more than 15 years I think that now more countries are taking women's football seriously we have Ajax Amsterdam that stands for world class men talents on the Assembly line if this club wil pomp money into woman football we will have fast superstars
An excellent , thoughtful interview with a coach who has substance and critical insight. The coach spoke with a respect for the game and all who participate in it. No bluster. No empty statements. Beautiful! The players, the game and all who make the beautiful game a reality deserve this level of intelligence and grace. Thank you.
Terrific to see an in-depth, objective, informed, professional assessment of the US team. Thank you Mr Eidevall.
Jonas is excellent. Arsenal is lucky to have him
Great to hear the insightful commentary from a manager within the game. Thanks!
Jonas is now an honorary Englishmen after his always brilliant studio analysis and commentary ! We (everyone i talk to about it) love listening to him!
I think I’m a big supporter of the USWNT but I was in awe of the job the Swedish goalie was. She played lights out right up to the end.
Jonas was Zeçira's coach at club level in Sweden, FC Rosengard.
@@pinkknight9 yep. He spoke about she hung in there when her club hired one lead goalie after another while she was second. She can play in a pressure game for sure.
Amazing insight from Jonas. Huge respect for him as a coach. I also love that he has such a great relationship with Tobin Heath. The season she played for him at Arsenal was such a blast to watch.
Asking Jonas Eidevall how to stop Sam Kerr was peak comedy! Had to say it, but thanks to Jonas for your considered and thoughtful analysis on the current state of the USWNT.
Wow. Such incredible information. All coaches should listen to this and fans also. Thank you
Great interview. Thank you, Jonas. I would have loved to have a coach like you when I was young and a talented player in Germany. That's a while ago😂. Now as a women's football coach, talent scout and consultant for girls football academies in Indonesia and India I really enjoyed listening to your realistic way of explaining things ... Well done. Would love to talk and share thoughts about talent scouting in Asia in real life🎉⚽
Eidevall was a brilliant interviewee. It's crazy but it went beyond great insight into the USWNT results and into insightful advice on life, in particular how one grows in a skill/profession. 👏🏼
What a great analysis. Very insightful.
27:13 Jonas Eidevall: "Most growth will come through setbacks." 💯
Great analysis! There is a reason why a you have to look overseas to get this kind of clear-headed analysis. US does not understand soccer. We had a great run for a while because of the investment, but from now on it will take a lot more than that to stay relevant…
United States is NFL country bro lol 😂
@@michaelmayo-vb5fl yeah, the real football is played with your feet and a round ball, that’s what I am talking about.
@@marsrii4372 lol well live in the EU lol
Really enjoyed this analysis. Jonas is impressive and I can see why Arsenal is such a strong team.
Brilliant interview.
Jonas was my coach of the year last season.
I like this guest. Can he be USWNT's new coach?
They couldn't afford him
Rog, our girls will be back. But, there is going to be a real house cleaning; new fed, new coach, new system. They already have the parts, they just need the right architect to put it all together.
Haha if you think US soccer is introspective enough to change you will be disappointed. Look at the men’s side.
The loss hurt so much more because we played extremely well.
Excellent observations!
The USWNT national team had an INdecisive coach who picked poor rosters and also did NOT adjust.
I still think had their NOT been so many injuries to so many game changing players, they easily three peat! However, this team was indeed good enough to go further and maybe even win it.
Too bad, Vlatko really cost the team.
Apart from divisive Rapinoe, there in nothing wrong with USWNT, but other countries have caught up, they are still a capable winning team, the best team does not always win.
This isn’t going to be a lock tournament for any team. The passion is at an all time high and the USWNT was missing that component. They did play better than Sweden for the 120 minutes. I was happy to hear one of the commenters say that he could not see any sign that any of the ladies were flagging. Fitness wasn’t an issue.
I hate to see a coach leave right after a dismal showing in a tournament. He is reaponsible for team performance but he doesn’t play. I really did like to see the game. I thought play was good on both sides.
I was completely dismayed at the trolling brought on by the talk about the National Anthem after the first game.
easily? hardly!
11 individual players do not make a team.
There are three “I”’s in individual and none in team
11 trannies would be unbeatable
That's a start
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Massive coup getting the Arsenal manager on, well done mate!
men’s or women’s
@@bkirstie he’s the women’s manager Kirstie
Most growth will come from 'setbacks'. Wise words.
I will say this:
With the amount of change that has happened between 2019 to 2023, there’s really no reason to say this should’ve been an easy tournament for the US. We should’ve done better, but there’s so much work that needs to be done with this new squad. Rodman showed she’s adapting to the NT, Smith has hit a wall, DeMelo is certainly needed, and Horan proved she should start. There’s much more that can be discussed but I’m sure in 2027, we’ll see this team come together and be extremely dangerous.
All the other teams will also come together and be extremely dangerous.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 all the other teams didn’t go through a big player pool shift like the US did.
13:07 jonas' point on succession planning is massive. Vlatko is the tip of the iceberg. Some blame on Jill Ellis and the federation (especially yourh development program) is needed imo
I think the Sweden game showed a pre peaking squad. I’d like to see the uswnt schedule a friendly with the WC winners after the tournament to see how much things change
That was a great interview. Since Jonas mentioned "scouting" intentions among the Clubs, perhaps they might look into a teenager called Onyeka Gomero, who is of mixed heritage, having a Nigerian father and a Spanish mother, both American citizens: (what could be more American than that ?). She is qualified to play for the USA and also Nigeria. She received very high marks when she played in the World under-16 Tournament, last year. She was in tears that she had been rejected by the US Authorities and the Spanish clubs were willing to catch her up.
Gamero is very good. She and Thompson give me hope that we can "make them right" and aren't just putting out track stars with soccer cleats. Though we still have a long way to go as our recent international youth results have been disappointing.
@@winger0611-jl I agree, the USA girls U17, U20 teams are not producing like they used. Recently, one of these teams lost the concacaf championship game to Mexico, this is very concerning.
Can she also play for Spain? Why was Gomero rejected? please share more details.
No I think she said she had an open green light to play for Nigeria, but not for Spain, or the US.. There is another teen ager, Vicky Lopez, who was also in the under 16 tournament, who is half Nigerian and half Spanish,. She was immediately grabbed up by Barcelona women's team and is doing her residency requirements for becoming Spanish. They might fast track her.@@jlb74a
What a great guest!!! As an American Gooner. Go get Girma!!! She could replace Rafaelle and be deadly with Lotte. Leah returns. Unstoppable
His breakdown on PKs is legendary
Great commentary would have loved to hear his views more on his font line and how to develop out the team
Excellent podcast. Thank you.
We had so many balls crossed the box. Nobody to finish them. We needed Smith at the 9 and saving her energy to score. I would've had Dunn in the mid also. Definitely changed formation to a. 442 or 451. This would actually open up more with runs.
Next time we’ll have a team of peak age global superstars on a mission-a pissed off monstrous beast of a squad that’ll be better than any we’ve seen before. We want that fifth star over the badge!
A brilliant interview and analysis. Jonas's point about peak years very telling, and it is just more evidence how Mal Swanson's injury (age 25) hurt the performance of this team.
Swanson was a huge, huge loss.
Macario would also have been huge. both are in that peak range.
Swanson's absence, IMO, was the main reason we lost. Mallory definitely would've scored.
Vlatko did not have the balls to bench AlexMorgan. If had started Williams, Smith, Rodman we would have been more effective scoring.
Glad to see some Sonnett love here.
Much better post-match wrap than Alexi Lalas trolling people saying we lost because of wokeness.
I took what he said as that they were distracted by politics and individual influencing more than “wokeness”.
I can’t make any claim to being an expert, but I’m glad I’m not alone with the thought that subbing out Alex Morgan was not the right move.
She shouldn't of been the starting 9. Smith should've been.
The older players have to be rotated out so that the younger players can develop. Its like Tobin said, no one is set up for success.
Carli Lloyd's comments this morning that Vlatko abandoned 2 a day practices because veteran players complained was damning. If Vlatko willingly caved then he should have been fired yesterday, but if the federation forced Vlatko to cave then Kate Markgraf and the other federation pooh-bahs needed to be fired yesterday.
Both US men and women U-19, U-21 and U-23 teams have been losing and underachieving for many years, getting beaten by lower-ranked teams. That's not a good sign.
Then again the rankings work in such a way that the US will be ranked higher than their actual ability since they only play against their own confederation.
@@Mrsuperdestroyer Yes, rankings are often unfair, but the main point is that these US youth teams who are failing to win major tournaments like U-23 World Cup, are producing the players who will be in future USMNT and USWNT rosters.
It's a question of player quality, coaching or both.
@@streetgato9697i think it's more about the level of opponent catching up, the rest of the world are now investing in women's football and development of players. Previously the USA players looked fitter and better prepared than everybody else so they could name the best 11 players and blow other teams away. Going forwards they will have to build functional teams and switch to developing players to technically match the Europeans who are now getting access to top level academies and coaching from the biggest clubs in the world.
U17 too.
Not being blunt to anyone in particular, what I really believe is that there is nothing wrong with the USWNT in its build up to this game against SWEDEN. Perhaps the only flaw in preparing this game is in deciding whether Megan Rapinoe should play at all, and if so, should Rapinoe start the game. There is apparently a pretty good. game spirit and boasted morale so the mentality is right to play an offensive game, control the temperament, and growing into the game to break down the resistance of SWEDEN. When you have transition of players of different generation as much as fourteen rookies in your squad, you know you've got to have experienced players as mentors on the pitch to guide them, to encourage them and to help orchestrate the play. The one thing that have gone wrong is to select Megan Rapinoe in the first place. True that she is an icon, but being an icon doesn't mean she can be a key player in such a live or die contest. This is a knockout game. Like it or not, if you are not game fit to a 150% physically and mentally, don't play her at all! Megan Rapinoe was completely out of the game in regards to her preparedness and game readiness. She failed to lift the soccer ball in her corner kicks and the ball fell short of 10 yards or so reaching a desirable spot in the 6 yard box. As a matter of fact, her two corner attempts failed to send the ball overhead to a US player, which didn't even reach the near post 3 feet above ground. That weakness exemplified when she voluntarily took a 45-yard out freekick in the dying minutes of the game that her delivery was as as weak as her corner kicks. That kick again didn't reach her teammates waiting earnestly in the penalty box. That said, she didn't even show the agility, strength and the ability to beat any opponent, let alone ball possession. So, the obvious mistake, let me say again, is to include Megan Rapinoe in the squad from the start of the tournament. This is not a tactical mistake, this is a management mistake, and the blame goes to ???
All teams have generation transition issues, when players like Rapinoe and Morgan are in their late professional age, selecting them is a risk. I say there is no specific issue or something wrong for the USWNT in this tournament is true because your squad with these aging players plus immature rookies are bound to fail. And the truth is there is no longevity for star players. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo went through the same decline and cause PSG and Manchester United a lot to play them regularly. Both did not end their career well with these elite clubs. There is no longevity for any team as well. You win a title this season, you'll be defending your title in the next. How many teams in the world are serial winners succeeding in defending their titles year after year? Real Madrid, Juventus, Manchester City, Barcelona? the same goes to the USWNT. The same fate, and the same cost associated with naming your iconic, beloved celebrity player on your team sheet. I still am adamant in saying there is nothing wrong with the USWNT because they played as a team. It's their opponents who played well, didn't have the same issue in their teams, and they were not suffering with too many aging or rookies in their teams!
So them losing is all Rapjnoe’s fault ??? Get lost little boy 🙄
A healthy Mal Swanson changes everything in my mind. I know injuries always play a role... but we had A LOT. Sauerbraun, Swanson, Macario... tell me that doesn't have us winning the group and not facing Sweden at all. 2 of those 3 are in that prime range you duscuss.
Mentality is a massive part of a winning sports team . But its just Americas mentality going into this tournament was they just had to turn up and take part to win the game .and its their god given right to make the final
Ashley Sanchez is right in that peak age!!!
And Vlatko gave her zero minutes
Alex Morgan was the favorite to win the Golden Boot before the tournament
scored no goals..
no one points a finger at her...
Top talented athletes usually are highly skilled at other sports . Very common to be recruited to play softball and volleyball at the collegiate level and abandon one for the other because of scholarships .
While it is fashionable to trash the USA front line (and justified) we have to remember that lots of big teams with world class forwards also failed to to score as well. Scoring touch seems to ebb and flow a lot in women's soccer. Vlatko's big mistake was taking Rapinoe who was useless for all but marketing purposes instead of Hatch or some other striker that was in form. It might not hove worked but it would have given him another round in the chamber that maybe could have paid off.
Carli was useless on 2019 too
@@patriciatorres5667 Carli scored 16 goals in 2019 year including 3 in the world cup. Not one of her greatest campaigns but far from useless. By comparison the entire team scored 4 goals for the entire 2023 world cup.
The fact that the BBC has Jonas and Emma Hayes and others commentaring and analyzing games and we have Carli and Lalas talking about "mentality" and their big feelings...
That is an apples to oranges comparison. The BBC is a public-private partnership and Fox Sports is owned by the Murdoch family.
Please make this guest the new coach of the US
I play n coach soccer. You don't win all the time. In my 1st year at a school, I was told from the Varsity coach that the players I had would win just some games. We won a tournament championship, a conference championship, n were undefeated. I had to make sure to keep them in line. In my 2nd year, I was told that the new players were better from the Varsity coach. I had to fix several things because I didn't think they were as good as the previous year's players. We still did well n only had 3 losses.
So?
Apparently there are no forwards in the United States between the ages of 22 and 34.
Wrong coach, wrong players, wrong tactics, no esprit de corps in the team. Emily Sonnet and Naomi Girma were magnificent! Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe were total duds.
EUROPEANS commentator are so much more logical than US. Most US commentators are political, some ditched their own national team because of dislike of some players like Rapinoe.
Perhaps Sam addition at this moment to the Australian team may not be as productive because of what was said. Sometimes you have to go with the well-balanced team instead of bunch of great individuals. We'll see.
Mr. Eidevall wouldn't happen to be available as USWNT coach, would he????
He probably is. And you may noticed that half of the teams in Semi Finals are coached by Swedes.
Not enough books could ever be written to explain the situation with the US women's soccer team. It involves centuries of history.
While I get where you are going I have to disagree- really not that complicated-especially after hearing Carly Lloyd talk about the disrespectful culture on the team. Two things broke down- poor coaching and poor leadership within the team.
The coach did not work them hard enough, break them down and build them back up as a team. He played players who simply did not produce and kept going back to them. Set plays were mediocre to poor, finishing was weak. And he allowed a lazy, entitled atmosphere to exist throughout training.
Team culture- Rapione should not have been on the team period. She is way past her prime and her play showed it every time she stepped on the pitch. And more importantly she is a self important princess who has screwed with team culture for years. In the end a huge portion of the country hated her and disliked the team as a result. What other country has a large part of the population hating their national team. They are there to play soccer, not politics.
In the end they did not work hard enough in preparation and as a result played poorly and played as a team of individuals until the last game when it was too late.
@@TheMarpalm your observations are just minor part of the fix. The US culture of hubris, exceptionalism, arrogance, ignorance and omnipotence, is their greatest handicap. The gall and the disgusting arrogant impertinence to imagine they might have something of any worth they would compel the world to comply with, is simple evidence of karma working it's unerring magic. This cultural disadvantage will take decades to overcome. If the US women's team really want to gauge their correct position on the global soccer ladder, they need look no further than the position occupied by their men's team. I don't see them offering helpful hints and tips to Messi, Ronaldo, MANU or Barcelona FC.
They'll get to learn fairly quickly just where they fit in international soccer and may accept a schooling in how to spell humility and respect and how these two words might be used in a sentence. They could worry about strategies after that 🇭🇲
😂😂. Best possible result.😂😂
Can someone help me understand how smith had a chance to win it? It was 3-2 didn’t they have to score two more?
You need the better score after 5 PKs and by that point Sweden had already taken 4 and missed 2 of them. So if Smith had scored the US would have 4 and Sweden couldn’t tie it to make it to sudden death.
The only GREAT player on the USWNT during the world cup was Savannah DeMelo. She fougjt every ball, and created great plays for the US. The coach is a fool for taking her out of the game at half time against Holland. I don't think she saw any more minutes after that. But the USWNT really took a turn fir the worse without her on the pitch.
NFL kickers kick during the game on the sidelines
Rapinoe can sky it without practice
Peak H has little to do with it unless you consider how hold they are.
Arsenal looking at Girma? 😏
I have just watched 4 US based programs that purported to analyse the US loss. Talk about hopeless. All they wanted to talk about was the political aspects. There's a problem in itself. I hope the US top brass watch this analysis - because it is an analysis not a rant. Thanks.
If not for the goal keeper, Sweden would be sent home. Sweden doesn't have the speed nor firepower. Japan 3, Sweden 1.
That didn't age well
The US lacks a natural goal scorer who is great at putting the ball in net all the time!!!! Marta from Brazil is the top women's world cup scorer, 17 goals!!!! Several other countries are producing an out and out no.9, i know there are certain football coaches and experts who will compare the women to the men!!!!
How much does Jonas Eidevall want to coach the Nats? Pay it to him!
Are Rog's actions from the same Video as we are watching ? or just photoshopped in . They seem quite unnatural and inappropriate to the conversation
Morgan can do one more WC only as sub and only if there are no deserving players ahead of her.
I disagree - that should have been the case this year.
Lack of necessary preparation Vlatko sent the players back to play in league the month before World Cup because he didn’t know what else to do with them! He has been an epic failure. We hadn’t played together as a unit for several weeks. We lost Dawn to England and now look how fit they are. We looked weak.
Jill was a strategist. Who to play in what game. Vlatko just didn’t want to start any gays. His homophobia in selecting players and who to play was obvious. Where did all the gays go Vlatko? Epic failure to see the quality of play over his own prejudice. What strategies did he change? Same old up the sides and cross to the middle but no one was there to receive the pass. Controlling the ball gained momentum as they played together, but three games into the World Cup is a little late.
Is Messi past peak? Maybe he's an anomaly. Rapinoe certainly didn't look good. Girma, Rodman and Williams played beyond their years.
Messi is the GOAT. no doubt. Rapinoe didn't play good, neither Alex Morgan, three games and no goals? When you compound this with teams packing their defense with 4 or 5 players, USA had fewer chances to score. This same situation happened on the Olympics, the US federation should had a new coach then.
Yeah 20 years ago the pay to play system wasn’t as vicious or massive or as greedy and they had not removed the high school platform. Only the rich can afford to play and they are rarely the best
The USA was not blown out. Not counting the usual # of teams that don't belong but get invited, the world caught up & the USA stagnated.
Clunky unimaginative scheme under Vlatko all these years. Stiff football from 20 years ago. Need a modern tactician as Manager.
Highly predictable attack strategy. And too much reliance on those crosses from the left wing.
Our rich sorority girls are no longer good enough to dominate now that other countries care at all about women's soccer. Unless and until we revamp pay to play and enable working class and poor kids to play high level soccer we are on an unstoppable downward slide relative to the rest of the world.
What's next? FIFA WOMEN'S WORLD CUP 2027
You dont sound very american guy on the left
Fire Vlatko the clown, fire general manager., stop calling up the fraud Alex Morgan, get rid of old players. Play the young talent
They should hire Johan Cryuff.😁😄😃😀
Strategic Incompetence. The best roster in history, 4 years to prepare. Found a way to fail. Who thought Vlatko was even a good choice? Nearly got beat by Portugal!! Portugal!!! Let Jill Ellis choose the next coach? Make sure whoever chose Vlatko doesn’t choose again. Don’t , please don’t set these gals up for failure! A proven world class coach. please
let players choose the next coach. portugal was GOOD BRO
Jonas is not really telling the truth like he was on UK television about this team. More just telling the host what he wants to hear….
How much was he paid?
The team has a toxic culture, it needs a total revamp. The current USWNT is reviled in countries around the world for its extreme arrogance. Those over-the-top 'look at me, look at me' celebrations after running up the score against much weaker opponents, and similarly obnoxious behavior, needs to end.
Exactly. Very unlikeable team. Kelley O Hara trying to intimidate the keeper with mind games, then hits the post was very swift justice for me.
They were achampion team and were respected outside the US. Politics has played a part in women's football all over the world. The problem in the US is that it is a divided country in itself.
These women took everything for granted and it smacked them in the face with karmic perfection. Rapinoe summed it up perfectly after the match - the only pride she took from the honor of representing her country is getting paid. We had our golden age and now the rest of the world has caught up. All downhill from here.
This players are not longer a team!! There is division within the team. Some of the girls are just girls that are not proud of the country they play for. Some of These girls does not even sing the national anthem for their country!! USA is divided!!
Thank you 15! Now we don’t have to hear your narrative. OUT, Now can we just watch “people” play a game and those happy to rep the flag and team they are from.
The players were preoccupied with social justice, marketing, additional pay, shi__ing on the flag and anthem, etc.
Sweden is the best
The mother-players (Dunn, Morgan, Ertz) did not provide the top play US fans are used to.
I did not recognized Dunn at all, her game was very sloppy in many areas. Morgan was careless with many chances on goal and missed a penalty against Vietnam. Ert was solid but did not provide the support in the attack that we have seen before.
We have seen proof at this WC, it is evident female players cannot come back to their top playing level post-partum. Should the USWNT reject players with children?
I will tell you what happened. Don't honor your country, you get sat
What went wrong ? They bloody Lost, lol.. the arrogance of the Yanks geezz
So, did we. At a home World Cup, we lost 3 games.
I’ll tell you what went wrong. They cared more about virtue signaling than actual soccer. And they paid the price.
And judging from the amount of Americans that rooted for them to lose, I’m not the only one that feels that way.
They should have put 100% of their effort into training.
They were “paid” and the price was this
American success in womens football has been based on the length of time the game has been going in the states, the huge comparative investment and the lack of competition from abroad, those days are over, worst thing is Americans could never enjoy the teams success because of the toxic culture they embraced, and poor old rapinoe, no matter what she might gave done in the past, her legacy will be the penalty miss.
to you
Ashley Hatch went wrong. The club only scored 4 goals and needed her instead of aging political players.
Wouldn't of mattered. Coach had zero balls to sit Morgan. Smith was gassed as a winger.
What went wrong ? They lost focus. We're victims, we're underpaid, blah, blah, blah. They weren't the U.S. team, they were the "us" team.
FIRST, FRST, FIRST,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ALL OF THE CURRENT PLAYERS NEED TO BE FIRED FROM THE USWNT IMMEDIATELY AND REPLACED WITH PATRIOTS THAT CAN PLAY SOCCER; MAYBE A TEAM THAT CAN BEAT 14 Y/Old BOYS OR AT LEAST BE COMPETITIVE WITH THEM!
Rubbish - BTW same comment on other programs. Think that makes you a troll.
Who cares????
Who cares anymore…their done,.over…Womens U.S.Soccer Team does not exist.X
Your comment clearly shows your ignorance. The USWNT lost the 2011 final by PKs to Japan (Carli Lloyd lost her kick) and as a result of that, the federation changed things and created the current dinasty. A new one must be created now, if handled properly, failure is just success in progress.
Lots of ignorance on display here from people who clearly didn’t listen to this program and the terrific insight Jonas provided, but just wanted to jump on and spew their misogyny and homophobia. This team will be back with a vengeance, and it’ll be fun to watch.
@@wysiwyg2489 whatever..oh also spellcheck….it’s ‘Dynasty’…X
Emotional damage, lol