Hi hi! So I was watching this again for a particular part to quote, and I thought I'd break it down into topics in case someone's looking for something in particular =) Please upvote or comment so people can see it! On Gloria & Emma's childhoods 0:40 On Gloria's college experience 3:25 On journalism & self-definitions 6:15 On Emma's activism 10:00 On marriage equality & growing children 11:00 On Sex and World Peace & violence against women 15:25 Why gender equality is important & women negotiators ~21:55 On anger and expression 22:45 On women in politics 25:30 On patience, zen and keeping on going! 27:20 On porn, erotica and rape 30:20 On the dedication in
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
@@hellogoodbye4061 and what concerns do men have in a world controlled by men? Gloria lived during a time women couldn’t own their own credit cards or bank accounts.
@@rachaelmarks2 Oh fah sure, men have it so, so, so, so, so easy. My bad!!! Well nothing for us privileged men to do at this point but stand around the fireplace puffing our pipes in our robes and slippers while the lowly women bring us our tea and crumpets while we talk all that patriarchy stuff. Damn, feminist man-hater, what a bizarre world in which your mind resides. Naturally, you needed to dredge up the past to find any form of oppression today. That credit card thingie, straight out of your gender studies textbook, was cute and all but answer this one straightforward question. What rights by law do men have that Western women, the most privileged and entitled subset of society in the history of the world, do not? Now this may be hard to admit, but there are none. But hey, I could be wrong, so in order to show me up, make me appear so so wrong, you only have to name ONE thing. Good luck.....you'll need it. Feminism is the radical notion that women are oppressed by a society that caters to their every demand.
I love what Gloria said about the ability of media to convince you that it is right and you are wrong. I’ve experienced that on UA-cam, especially. Thank you for this conversation and that food for thought.
This is a great interview,I found it particularly moving when Emma Watson was talking about how she has learnt to be a witness to someone of they are going through some kind of distress rather than trying to fix it or feel she has to make it better,very moving.What an amazing young woman and an amazing elder woman.
Emma is such a special person. I remember thinking when she was younger that she would change the world, because there was something so enduring about her in a leader/intellect type of way. She at such a young age has done that, and I have no doubt that she will make a tsunami sized splash in everything she strives to change. Emma is such a breath of fresh air
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I am 35 years old - and I am just now educating myself on Gloria. I really enjoy her wisdom and her output. And yes - I am here after watching Mrs. America haha. But I have known about Gloria for years. I think that I was living within my own male social priviledges, to not learn and celebrate this woman's voice. To that - I call myself out.
Thank you Emma and everyone involved for making it possible to record and post the event so that everyone can view your incredible conversation with Gloria Steinem. It was fantastic! Intriguing, inspiring, thought-provoking, informative, and relatable. 👍
What do your role models have to say about maternal child abuse, the most prolific and sadistic kind? Doesn't fit your "domestic violence" narrative does it? That's why feminists abandoned the issue of abused children isn't it?
These videos are so nourishing, moving and important! Thank you so much for sharing them. I thought that maybe they could include captions in other languages, so anyone around the world could watch. A 16 year old from Spain
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
Dude Emma is gonna be remembered in history as one of the greatest female speakers of all time. Look at her talking on an even field with the heavy hitters already
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
@@hellogoodbye4061 "men's concerns" lmaooo the entire universe has always been about "men's concerns" now stop acting obtuse shut the everloving fuck up and go sit in the corner and think about what you typed and put out on the internet. Silly lil man. Btw, real men can handle not being number 1 in everyone's minds at all times, so sorry you're not one of them 🙁
@@BlairLaurel First and foremost, anyone who needs to add an "lmaooo" to their comment seldom has an actual point and just seeks to mock and condescend with their own form of smug self-righteousness. Alas, you fit the bill to a tee. Oh, and they ALWAYS end with a silly widdle emoji. You are boringly predictable. Next thing you know you'll be tossing out f-bombs. Oops, too late. Anyway, let's see what ya got here, hopefully not just standard gender studies man-bashing rhetoric. Sigh, looks that way. Western women today are the most privileged and entitled subset in the history of the world yet have the gall to whine about a society that caters to their every demand. Your "SILENCE LOWLY MALE!!" retort says alot about feminism as a whole and that ain't good. Silly little man-hater. By the way, real women can handle not being number one. That's why 80 percent of women today refuse to identify as a feminist. Young women in particular. Women are abandoning your cult in droves. So sorry you're not one of them. Go sit in the corner and think about what you typed. It oozes man-hate. It must be difficult hating half the human race. It must suck being you. Now stop acting obtuse, shut
@@BlairLaurel You're fun, in a man-hating kinda way, let's keep playing. (now toss a handful of "lmao"s and emojis here for further smug self-righteousness.)
@@hellogoodbye4061 aww you're pasting your nonsense over the structure of my post, since you don't have a mind of your own to come up with something. How typical of your kind. And repeating the same empty "arguments" misogynistic sub humans always have up their sleeve to derail because they know they're wrong. Evidently you haven't sat in your corner long enough 👋
"Women with children are way less likely to be employed and men with children are way more likely to be employed. Because they are perceived as responsible and women are perceived as distracted." omg how she started the interview with this whole setting is based on hierarchy and hierarchy is based on patriarchy and patriarchy doesn't work anywhere anymore! Mind-blowing! Really reminds me to not just follow the traditions but to question them!
I relate to so many things in this interview but one thing that really hit home was the notion of crying when I am angry. I'm not sure what the reason behind this is but as long as i've known, I have cried when I am angry. And constantly have had reactions from people apologizing for hurting my feelings or telling me not to be sad. It's somewhat humiliating, not to cry, but to be told my feelings are hurt. My crying at things that I deem wrong is not hurt but resilience to what made me angry. I am not sad, I am strong. I am not weak, I know what right and wrong should be.
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
Emma and Gloria truly inspire many people, men included. I am a supporter of He for She Movement. I talk to refugees and they always say that they need to be listened to as well as they know about 'He for She Movement.'
This interview helps me a lot to put words on a lot of things which were annoying me in the way society separate men and women. It should be shared a lot, and translate, into french for example to be shared in other countries as well ! Thank you both for this very interesting meeting.
I've had that for 45 years. My hubby is 12 years younger. We both are strong individuals and we know how to fight and love...and neither of us likes to fight, so we love more. As a psychotherapist for 25 years, I helped (or tried to) many couples learn how to be strong and loving together.
Maybe there could be equal relationships but I've not seen one either. Someone, in my experience with people, is always dominant. The thing is - if one of them says it's an equal relationship - that is ... probably ... the dominant one. The one being dominated usually knows it. .
@@Cole_Cross Maybe it can be but I would say that most people work things out between themselves - or - they don't. Some people - though I've never seen it - may well treat each other as equals but ... others may not ... That's a real thing too. .
truly wonderful video great work on both Em & Gloria's parts, such a pleasure to hear Steinem's wisdom gained over a lifetime of passionate, good work :)
Feminism has destroyed Watson....six years after you made this comment she is a mere shell of her former self, feminism has made her lonely and depressed and she looks to have aged 30 years over the last five.
Case in point. If you buy shoes together you can do politics together. However I propose to you this. What if one party sees the shoe buying as a chance to bond and the other party wants to boast that they bought shoes with someone powerful.
Oh my god i wrote my final exam essay about this book (sex and world peace) and quoted the exact same part emma did. That truly stopped me on my tracks too...
must b going around. She was definitely 👍 👌 I was just 22 when I first met her in Philly. Vibrant n serious about the sisterhood. Goddesses blessed us with this 🙏 being!
I like Emma, she seems like a great person with good intentions. I agree with a lot of these feminist points but I think it would be more interesting and productive if she interviewed people with opposing views too. That would help these discussions go deeper.
I want to listen to Gloria all day and all night, and then again. Thanks to Mia Moretti, one of Katy Perry's close friends, I've discovered that awesome woman and her fantastic books. 💜
At around 16:00, about there being more men than women now in terms of the world's population, China's "one-child only" policy had a lot a do with that, since that culture is historically one of the most extreme patriarchal societies. Countless female fetuses were aborted after that policy was effected. Now China's finally realizing its error by suffering the shortage of women - their men are now importing/buying wives from nearby countries.
+Broken Deity "these stupid bitches" lol get the fuck out of this video if you hate the feminist movement so much. You and your misogyny can fuck outta here.
@Broken Deity well you aint gonna get much sympathy with name calling like that. I get you actually believe and feel what you wrote. Too bad you can'texpress yourself in a way that is understandable.
We get whole by venturing into what is considered to be right for the other gender. That makes sense. We miss out on a lot if we strictly stick to our gender roles and what is considered appropriate. Not just socially (e.g. guys learning to be sensitive and girls learning to be leaders), but even just practically. Any girl will be more whole as a human if she understands cars and can fix simple things around the house and any guy - if he can do housework, mend clothes and take care of babies.
Guys learning to cry like manbabies while women take charge...oh, fah sure, that's a concept men will hop right on board with. Oh, wait, there's more - "men belong in the kitchen!" Guys, I can NOT make this stuff up!
Susan, I agree with you...and I'm surprised Gloria would say that, so I'll have to re-watch this. That doesn't sound like her. She is not religious herself. She may say she's "spiritual", not sure.
Word to the wise, kiddo, don't believe everything your gender studies teachers (no one recognizes them as professors today) tell you. The cult/religion of feminism devalues the role (not roll, like, damn) of women, turning them into man-haters. It is the first cause.
BRIEF COMMENT: I AM A US CITIZEN LIVING IN SF, CA, I WILL NEVER MEET MS. WATSON, BUT I SOMETIMES GET THE FEELING SHE HAS A BETTER FUTURE IN BRITISH POLITICS RATHER THAN ACTING UNLESS SHE CAN ACT PARTTIME. SHE HAS POISE & EMPATHY & I THINK GOOD VIEWS ON CERTAIN POLITICAL TOPICS. I WISH HER WELL IN ALL HER FUTURE ENDEAVORS. JUST A THOUGHT. I HOPE SHE EXPLORES THIS CAREER IN THE COMING YEARS. I CAN EASILY SEE HER AS A PARLIAMENT MEMBER REPRESENTING A LARGE CONSTITUENCY IN ENGLAND.
In regards to the arguement that gender equality will be addressed after more "important" issues are solved has been the standard for as long as gender equality rights have been fought for. It had always been a bargaining chip, the carrot before the horse. It has always been we will address your issues after we solve ours, and there has always been inequity. We've always been told we will get ours after we support theirs. And we kept making that exchange, time after time, out of hope. In a way, just to be able to say that we've not been unreasonable, that we've done everything they've asked of us, that we exhausted that resource. So when we decide to no longer put our rights at the mercy of our oppressors, we are villainized. We are demonized as the hysterical group that has to be protected from their own destruction. These arguments have always been the excuses for why we are still denied the right to live as the sole proprietor of our bodies. The right to manifest our own destinies. The right to choose or not choose motherhood, marriage, careers, be homemakers, to love and marry who we want, to live without violence, to not have women murdered, to have our abusers held accountable, to protect our women and children from sexual violence, to heal from our traumas, to end the normalization of trauma, and all on our terms. Oppression has many forms but liberation has only one: total.
+Alal nicw trolling alal. you think al women are unhinged feminists? not the case. and christina hoff summers is spot on. she is doing the world nore good than your assenine coments are.
"It's not that we're somehow so wonderful, it's just that we don't constantly have to prove our masculinity" really important statement! Often times feminists claim that they don't have any gender beliefs, but then sooner or later they say something that implies... `we need women in politics/decision-making institutions, because women are seemingly better at it´ and then I sigh... because it's hypocritical to me. I love how Gloria Steinem didn't make that move. With her statement she referred to the different socialisation of men and women, where men have to stay tough and not show any signs of weakness and women are allowed to do that and therefore have a certain liberty at handling things that can be helpful.
Crying is perceived in such a way because it shows that being overwhelmed with emotions disturbs the contribution to rational thinking. There is emotional thinking and rational thinking, to many men (me included) when someone cries it shows weakness on the rational process of that person. Is it wrong to cry? No, but many people don't realize that men and woman are different and deal with things differently, not letting men or women to cry cripples then their ability of expression. What needs to be shared is that crying isn't the solution but a process of regaining strength. It is a great tool when used properly (crying all the time isn't exactly efficient either). People need to learn to balance their emotional and rational expression/thoughts, that is being human, being one or the other "masculine" and "feminine" (or at least perceived that way) and truly know themselves. All of these problems come from lack of confidence in ourselves as individuals and as humankind destroying earth.
I am in Quebec ( French) Canada, WE have all those equal rights you mentioned. English Canada is not equally advanced. , mothers get one year of paid leave, Fathers have parental leave as well. have a nice day.
A solid Belief system in what is actually right. And the educational conviction to see them through is armour enough. That's fundamentally what strength comes from. You can be surrounded by friends and be completely alone. Self confidence is an actualisation of yourself. No person can give it to you but they can certainly take it away.
She spews feminist anti-male propaganda, not actual news, thus could never be an actual journalist....only "amazing" to other feminists in her cult. Nothing more.
@@hellogoodbye4061 oh my god. nothing here is anti-male. nothing she has ever said has been anti-male. that's your insecurities talking. lol. be better try harder.
@@Cole_Cross oh my god. Everything she says is anti-male. Everything she has ever said has been anti-male. That's your indoctrinated brainwashed mind talking. Be better, try harder. (now add an "lol" here for further smug, self-righteousness).
@@Cole_Cross Is it any wonder your page only has eight subscribers....a nobody spewing man-hate to anyone who calls out the cult of feminism. Be better, try harder.
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
@believeit1234 aww you poor thing. Must be so hard to find feminists that falls in the precious ideology that you've created of world that you feel the need to go on the videos of people you know you'd disagree and go on to disagree as predicted. Must be a really lonely path. Is there anyone you know would save you from your pain?
@@futureamnesia9672 awww you poor widdle feminist, so, so oppressed by those baddy-waddy toxic patriarchal men. Must be so hard to find normal people, both men and women, that falls in the horrid man-hating ideology that your ilk created that you feel you need to belittle any lowly male who calls out these two feminists. You know you'd go on bashing the likes of men and go on to disagree as predicted. Damn, it must be difficult hating half the human populace. It must suck being you. Must be a really lonely path. Is there anyone you know who can save you from your pain. Repeat the evils of feminism before it's too late and you find yourself all lonely and bitter later in life. Just trying to help here, man-hater.
Interesting watch, very inspiring. "Humanism", though, is a concept that doesn't specifically means something about believing in God (Although maybe for US citizens it means that, I wouldn't know) It means believing in the human being, that the human being can influence History, that what matters are your actions and believing in supporting other human beings and supporting culture (The study of humane litterae, humanistic studies) During the 1400 there was a huge cultural movement in Europe that was primarly concerned with empowering human beings.
"Making Love" is another set of words for "erotica". . . . As Gloria says, it's much, much better than just sex or some dominating type of messed up situation.
@JmeTN Are you ok with the people that you have relations with not really loving you? I'd say that the people that you refer to in your 2nd to last sentence there, for some reason have their being and sexuality distorted at some really deep level. Still 'Making Love' is much, much better than just X - I don't know if people can really have it both ways. Perhaps it's like getting ones taste buds numbed out if one eats too much rich food, then the good stuff isn't so good or even noticed or cared about any more.
@JmeTN To answer your first reply, I don't know if disassociating sex from love and being loved and being loving and kind is something that most people would really want. A good number of people would rather do without than do it without love. Another disassociation that people often make is disassociating love making from procreation. I feel like every child has a right to be conceived in love,... as well as the consent and choice of both parents.
The discussion about Porn is so muddled.. Using "Rape" synonymously with porn seems pretty misguided at best. What she says about rape is totally valid and vital but is not entirely relevant nor the exact same as what is problematic about porn. Yes perhaps there are overlaps but it is quite ignorant to treat it the same and potentially dangerous. Was it really her intention? And Emma's lack of experience really shows at these moments when she doesn't question it. ps Trump still seen as a joke in early 2016...
Gloria's childhood freed her from the regimentation of living by the scheduled ringing of bells, conformation to almost impossible dress codes and the conditioning of bright alive children to tolerate intolerable levels of boredom, conditioning them for corporate jobs, the military or other life denying endeavors. Resting when you're tired, eating when you're hungry and peeing when you have to is a huge luxury in the workplace of most people and independence from the time clocks and bells telling you what to do when freed Gloria to access her creativity and her humanity.
Vey interesting interview. I saw Gloria Steinman on tv yesterday and i watched the tv sereis about her life and activism which was great to be honest, but... on putting women together at a table to end violence (22:00 mins), what about Cristobel Pankhurst and her table of women with the industrial production of white feathers and their army of young girls to hand them out to men of fighting age in Britain at the start of world war one. Of this Lloyd George said something like truly women are ready for, and capable of, the kind of decisions of public office. Trouble is though as with all political decisions someone has to get picked for sacrifice, but women are for the most part protected from any equal consequences of this decision. There is even a long standing tradition of making civilians immune to the consequences of warfare, even if difficult to maintain it is there as a norm and standard. That strangely also gives a privilege to women along with children. The only weapons that would directly impact civilians as well as soldiers are nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, and both are banned. ergo its ok for women to sit around a table and agree to allow the mass destruction of men, while at the same time enjoying immunity and peace campaigning. The later then now looking more like a instrument of particular interest and "women's laws" than some law derived from natural law. If you say this to feminists they just say its: "boys with toys" and "men's wars". There is no attempt to reason about this, its just a strategic move of avoidance and distraction and perhaps to elicit an angry response at the frivolity, so they can then say coercive and abusive male dominant behaviour allowed due to patriarchy. We need more laws to protect women from abusive and harmful male behaviour afforded by and about power. I can take it if its just coming out of a Marxist feminist conflict theory re- ontologised to make gender difference as the fundamental friend/enemy distinction in a Schmittian Political Theology. At least you know its war for absolute dominance in their eyes. But Gloria Steinem seems to couch this in terms of human rights as a identity to gender identity. So then whereas my Marxist feminist "enemy" can just ignore or distract or ad homion me, an equal rights advocate rather than trying tactics to silence me, or cancel me has to answer the question: In what way then is this right or good for me too?
Maybe that's the take away: "The means are the end" (28:00 mins) Gloria Steinem opposes this to Marx Engles (and i guess Lenin) she categories as the maxim: "The end justifies the means". This though i think is also in Marx as the question of praxis from the Critique of "the philosophers" as only interpreting the world What is to be done". the French post structuralists did much to escape this teleological "end justifies the means" norm of revolutionary political activism. What does it mean to make the means the end? Is it like Derrida's notion that justice cannot be given and so cannot be deconstructed. That to me means, as opposed to a utopian vision idea or formulae determining action, rather a continuous revolutions. Theoretically and practically interesting but i wouldn't want top live there. it would mean even jsut in the limits of gender a society in total conflict at all levels from the supreme court to your bedroom. The tools are the legal system and certain institutions like universities and health care corporations. the aim is metaphysical not teleological in that they seek to remove power asymmetries from human relations. they do his by describing all human relations as if mediated by institutions eg the institution of the family as opposed to the old "family of man". They do this by vice of a bad analogy: claiming families are governed by unwritten norms is the same as the family governed by a pseudo hierarchy with a man as the unelected head of the family. I imagine a bit like in the Godfather movie. "Patriarchy" here was from its use in anthropology as I recall the fallacy of thinking all organisations are structured like an institution. This though is not a methodological or category mistake or other sort of error, it is a necessary but incorrect abduction in order to use the law and medicine to change what were previously private spaces. That is straight from enlightenment law and politics and science man is first self interested and at war everywhere there is not laws and power to enforce them. So that means form this orientation a family is in state of war without law and power over it mediating it. Making the means the end implies then that the aim is to take control of the whole of society all the way down, and all the way up, a totalitarianism, but one that situates itself as about the ends of rule of law, positive rights, and minorities, and oppressed, but it seems these supposed anti totalitarian aims (as it was expressed by liberalism after word war two) are really not the point, the point is legal and medical take over. We haven't got to grips with the fact that totalitarianism can take many forms and architypes. Even laws and rights that appear opposed to totalitarianism can become, when made teleological, a new kind of totalitarianism. especially when the only recognised value system now is the law and the only evil is the absence of law or bad law which is seen then as subject to the brutal use of power and force. which then requires in this myth of the family at war, an even bigger omnipotent omniscient (and the other one) system of institutions to be run by women as "carer lawyers for power". tasking over civil society is the pseudo aim disguised as an aim for justice equality and protection of vulnerability. That is correcting apparent asymmetries of power though law and heath care and overseeing institutions then is an "end in itself"? equality is the pseudo teleological excuse. Might revisit some dead white men: Kant, Marx, Derrida on praxis. to do a better job of interpretation here.
On "the means being the end": perhaps a liberal feminist approach could accommodate this as the shift from a negative view of rights and freedoms, that is Rights as freedom from governmental power, and freedom as just not being prevented by force. This is traditionally contrasted with the notions of positive Rights and freedoms which, from Isaiah Berlin (Essay on Liberty), meant an: external to the person definition of the good human being, the good life, the healthy or safe life, it can be teleological like in Natural law as concern the person means the need to make the person into that model. Berlin allowed the former but thought the latter was basically the view of freedom of totalitarian regimes. Indeed i believe this shows us the strange link we can find in history between the far left the far right and theocracies. They have an ideal person in mind, and how to make them. i guess Foucault's Critique of mental health would also be a critique of this which we call a critique of normative images of people from authority. But things have moved on since the 1950's. So perhaps say Martha Nussbaum's notions of capability can be expressed not as a positive freedom or positive right but the capacity to act to choose etc. Freedom to here is not meant to be about constructing a person then, but reconstructing society such that people can exercise freedom as a capacity, and so giving people the "means" to use freedom. Alternatively it seems from reading that "radical feminism" is said to be about the actualisation of freedom through institutions like heath care welfare education reform of civil society (Hegel) really its metaphysics and ontology is about power relations in and through which there are asymmetries that can be discovered in synchronic data differences of wealth and diachronic historical repetitions and reasons. in this repetition through institutions takes the place of Marx's repetitious passive workers before they achieve class consciousness though struggle and education or ideology removal by experts. Tactically liberal feminism and radical feminism can look the same on the surface, the same actions, but really they are radical opposed in terms of world view, aims and strategy. In the early stages of political praxis these can be indistinguishable from outside. Indeed the radical feminist would be crazy to just conduct a praxis that is too different from the existing state of affairs. Modern praxis draws heavily on Derrida Foucault and Deleuze who all see revolutions not as so much a radical break from history but a process from within the existing order. If i was to stake money on a thinker here it would be i guess Amy Allen "The end of Progress"(2016) the year of this interview. I would contrast this with Rahel Jaeggi in "Critique of Forms of Life" and another i can't remember. This is discussed in the context of praxis by Bernard E. Harcourt in Critique and Praxis (2020) My bible of this political praxis turn. The question is to articulate the notions of incremental progress that does not presuppose and aim or a end or utopia. To use John McDowell's Google lecture on "Intention In Action" it is like knowing you are crossing a road and getting further without reference to the other side. But of course the progress here is really at the metaphysical level of life, it seeks to change people in accord with the asymmetry of power, even if it just looks like instituional change as Gloria Steinem says it involves changes in dispositions. This is not so alien to liberal capitalism effects for they ask us to change in terms of increasing our human capital skills education for the market. That process of increasing efficiency can be put as an aim of increasing total GDP or just in terms of increasing the persons wealth which is not simply end driven since it does not need to refer immediately to the total GDP. But hen it can look like Berlin's positive freedom in that they are after a perfect worker in a perfect working environment. It became Taylorism and this was applied to the home, the private home now called the domestic realm, reasoned as domestic science, and brought in by a woman genius industrial chemist who applied the ideas to workers homes. This has no clear end in a dynamic capitalist economy as what constitutes perfection here is a relation to the multipolicy of the ever changing market. This too me looks very like radical feminism which seeks in the home not more efficiency but less power asymmetry in home and society. Since power is intersectional then this also is a relation to an ever changing environment of justice and inequality metrics. So not a simple external set aim. Thing is someone is in your house in your soul telling you how to be more efficient and less less disposed to exploit power asymmetries. Ironically these are not opposed projects, but can be in tandem. Which can mean the radical feminist have been captured by liberal capitalism, or that they are using liberal feminism as a ladder to climb up through the contemporary world to then throw away when used and take up whatever Radical tools they can find. This needs more work from me I think folks.
![HeForShe Conversation with Emma Watson on International Women's Day 2015 [Full Q&A] - Official](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LNi9Ypc0cg8/mqdefault.jpg)
Hi hi! So I was watching this again for a particular part to quote, and I thought I'd break it down into topics in case someone's looking for something in particular =) Please upvote or comment so people can see it!
On Gloria & Emma's childhoods 0:40
On Gloria's college experience 3:25
On journalism & self-definitions 6:15
On Emma's activism 10:00
On marriage equality & growing children 11:00
On Sex and World Peace & violence against women 15:25
Why gender equality is important & women negotiators ~21:55
On anger and expression 22:45
On women in politics 25:30
On patience, zen and keeping on going! 27:20
On porn, erotica and rape 30:20
On the dedication in
@missoilcan Thank you so much for doing this...I was just thinking how helpful it would be when I stumbled across your comment. :) Much appreciated!
You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful =)
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Thank you! Exactly what I came here to do!
Thank you for this. It helped
Someone else here after watching Mrs. America??
Yes ,absolutely !
Yepp, yepp :D
Absolutely obsessed with it!!!
No.
yep!!
Emma is so freaking impressive!!!! Imagine meeting an idol and expertly interviewing her with such poise
You're kidding right?
@@babyirene3188 what would I be joking about lol
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
@@hellogoodbye4061 and what concerns do men have in a world controlled by men? Gloria lived during a time women couldn’t own their own credit cards or bank accounts.
@@rachaelmarks2 Oh fah sure, men have it so, so, so, so, so easy. My bad!!! Well nothing for us privileged men to do at this point but stand around the fireplace puffing our pipes in our robes and slippers while the lowly women bring us our tea and crumpets while we talk all that patriarchy stuff.
Damn, feminist man-hater, what a bizarre world in which your mind resides.
Naturally, you needed to dredge up the past to find any form of oppression today. That credit card thingie, straight out of your gender studies textbook, was cute and all but answer this one straightforward question.
What rights by law do men have that Western women, the most privileged and entitled subset of society in the history of the world, do not? Now this may be hard to admit, but there are none. But hey, I could be wrong, so in order to show me up, make me appear so so wrong, you only have to name ONE thing. Good luck.....you'll need it.
Feminism is the radical notion that women are oppressed by a society that caters to their every demand.
I love what Gloria said about the ability of media to convince you that it is right and you are wrong. I’ve experienced that on UA-cam, especially.
Thank you for this conversation and that food for thought.
This is a great interview,I found it particularly moving when Emma Watson was talking about how she has learnt to be a witness to someone of they are going through some kind of distress rather than trying to fix it or feel she has to make it better,very moving.What an amazing young woman and an amazing elder woman.
To think that she's 81 and still so vivacious and active! Incredible - about to begin 'My Life on the Road' :)
+Ellie Newman 81! Wow. Im 19 and I am blown away by how she carries herself
I wouldn't waste your time reading that.
Eighty is the new 40, have a nice day.
@@oliviawutam not for everyone
Emma is such a special person. I remember thinking when she was younger that she would change the world, because there was something so enduring about her in a leader/intellect type of way. She at such a young age has done that, and I have no doubt that she will make a tsunami sized splash in everything she strives to change. Emma is such a breath of fresh air
@Lord Farquaad
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I am 35 years old - and I am just now educating myself on Gloria. I really enjoy her wisdom and her output. And yes - I am here after watching Mrs. America haha. But I have known about Gloria for years. I think that I was living within my own male social priviledges, to not learn and celebrate this woman's voice. To that - I call myself out.
Quit simping, it demeans you.
I love how two strong confident women talk about their insecurities so freely.
Thank you Emma and everyone involved for making it possible to record and post the event so that everyone can view your incredible conversation with Gloria Steinem. It was fantastic! Intriguing, inspiring, thought-provoking, informative, and relatable. 👍
You left out stunning and brave. Damn, grrrlll, quit licking their boots, it demeans you.
its weird to see two of my role models discussing big issues together, weird in a fantastic inspiring way
hahaha yes that must be it! you have me worked out
^(sarcasm)
Can I advise you to check out christina hoff summers.
If you think they have anything constructive to say, then you ought to read more (or vote less).
the young woman is a role model for you? after this performance? that's sad and troubling.
What do your role models have to say about maternal child abuse, the most prolific and sadistic kind? Doesn't fit your "domestic violence" narrative does it? That's why feminists abandoned the issue of abused children isn't it?
Emma and Madam Gloria are the godsend by another heavenly dimension of the universe to solve our issues. Lots of love and support. Keep going.
Mohit Sahar seek medical help immediately
@@LordCaedus-bl7wi people in your nation die more of Covid and depression not mine.
Mohit Sahar and people kind die from depression you dumb fuck
thank you for upload I would have loved to be there!
It does my heart good to see a famous young feminist interviewing a famous seasoned feminist. The topics covered were important. Thank you.
Man-hating is not an "important" topic, but rather an unnecessary one that does NOTHING to benefit society as a whole.
These videos are so nourishing, moving and important! Thank you so much for sharing them. I thought that maybe they could include captions in other languages, so anyone around the world could watch.
A 16 year old from Spain
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
Dude Emma is gonna be remembered in history as one of the greatest female speakers of all time. Look at her talking on an even field with the heavy hitters already
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
@@hellogoodbye4061 "men's concerns" lmaooo the entire universe has always been about "men's concerns" now stop acting obtuse shut the everloving fuck up and go sit in the corner and think about what you typed and put out on the internet. Silly lil man. Btw, real men can handle not being number 1 in everyone's minds at all times, so sorry you're not one of them 🙁
@@BlairLaurel First and foremost, anyone who needs to add an "lmaooo" to their comment seldom has an actual point and just seeks to mock and condescend with their own form of smug self-righteousness. Alas, you fit the bill to a tee. Oh, and they ALWAYS end with a silly widdle emoji. You are boringly predictable.
Next thing you know you'll be tossing out f-bombs. Oops, too late.
Anyway, let's see what ya got here, hopefully not just standard gender studies man-bashing rhetoric. Sigh, looks that way.
Western women today are the most privileged and entitled subset in the history of the world yet have the gall to whine about a society that caters to their every demand.
Your "SILENCE LOWLY MALE!!" retort says alot about feminism as a whole and that ain't good. Silly little man-hater. By the way, real women can handle not being number one. That's why 80 percent of women today refuse to identify as a feminist. Young women in particular. Women are abandoning your cult in droves.
So sorry you're not one of them. Go sit in the corner and think about what you typed. It oozes man-hate. It must be difficult hating half the human race. It must suck being you.
Now stop acting obtuse, shut
@@BlairLaurel You're fun, in a man-hating kinda way, let's keep playing. (now toss a handful of "lmao"s and emojis here for further smug self-righteousness.)
@@hellogoodbye4061 aww you're pasting your nonsense over the structure of my post, since you don't have a mind of your own to come up with something. How typical of your kind. And repeating the same empty "arguments" misogynistic sub humans always have up their sleeve to derail because they know they're wrong. Evidently you haven't sat in your corner long enough 👋
Conversation that everyone should listen to! Thank you Emma Watson and Gloria Steinem!
Two feminists agreeing with each other. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.
"Women with children are way less likely to be employed and men with children are way more likely to be employed. Because they are perceived as responsible and women are perceived as distracted."
omg how she started the interview with this whole setting is based on hierarchy and hierarchy is based on patriarchy and patriarchy doesn't work anywhere anymore! Mind-blowing! Really reminds me to not just follow the traditions but to question them!
Emma we are so proud of you and your work! Keep doing what you're doing, we love you! : )
I relate to so many things in this interview but one thing that really hit home was the notion of crying when I am angry. I'm not sure what the reason behind this is but as long as i've known, I have cried when I am angry. And constantly have had reactions from people apologizing for hurting my feelings or telling me not to be sad. It's somewhat humiliating, not to cry, but to be told my feelings are hurt. My crying at things that I deem wrong is not hurt but resilience to what made me angry. I am not sad, I am strong. I am not weak, I know what right and wrong should be.
thank you Gloria and Emma - this was inspiring.
Gloria is a piece of shite
@@TheCasao86 ohhhh there u are !! I just told someone about this video and said it was refreshing not to see some of the dumb, cra cra trumpies...
2 absolute icons. Such beautiful minds.
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
Hermine was a great character. Strong, brave, loyal.
Emma and Gloria truly inspire many people, men included. I am a supporter of He for She Movement. I talk to refugees and they always say that they need to be listened to as well as they know about 'He for She Movement.'
you have no idea how hard I fangirled
I love yoou, the both of you....emma you are the sweetest creature...gloria you are an inspiration.
Best. Interview. Ever.
You certainly have set the bar low in this regard.
🔥"There's nothing more important than a trusted messenger." She should have dropped her mic.🔥 😎🎤
This interview helps me a lot to put words on a lot of things which were annoying me in the way society separate men and women. It should be shared a lot, and translate, into french for example to be shared in other countries as well ! Thank you both for this very interesting meeting.
well i have to agree that erotica is better than porn.
erotica is sex, and erotica has love involved also.
My daughter has taught me how to live and appreciate life. Thank you.
Thank you for upload this.
I’m around 60 years younger than Gloria, it’s truly remarkable how I agree with every single thing she says
Don't be a sheep. Feminism mindsets of Steinman turns women into sheep.
I have learned so much from these great women. We need more Ms Steinems and Ms Watsons
Your indoctrination is complete. Kinda sad really.
Most empowering video I’ve seen in a long time
I liked it when they talked about a marriage with equality because i have not seen one in my life.
I've had that for 45 years. My hubby is 12 years younger. We both are strong individuals and we know how to fight and love...and neither of us likes to fight, so we love more. As a psychotherapist for 25 years, I helped (or tried to) many couples learn how to be strong and loving together.
It exists!
Maybe there could be equal relationships but I've not seen one either. Someone, in my experience with people, is always dominant.
The thing is - if one of them says it's an equal relationship - that is ... probably ... the dominant one. The one being dominated usually knows it.
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@@BobSmith-dk8nw Bob, it's a real thing. Promise.
@@Cole_Cross Maybe it can be but I would say that most people work things out between themselves - or - they don't.
Some people - though I've never seen it - may well treat each other as equals but ... others may not ...
That's a real thing too.
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As women and mothers, we have to educate the spouses .
truly wonderful video great work on both Em & Gloria's parts, such a pleasure to hear Steinem's wisdom gained over a lifetime of passionate, good work :)
hi will! haha
She's a liar and a con-artist. Always has been.
Dave Barrowcliffe who?
Anthea Cabrestante Steinem.
Dave Barrowcliffe why?
this video should have way more views
+Will Harrison, Metaphysician It should be taken down.
+Ian Williams why?
Because they are both extremely annoying.
+Ian Williams Why the hell are you watching this Your like 50 and she's 25 You Hating Pervert
Maybe I was ogling Gloria.
Funny that Emma is sort of a fan girl and others fan girl for Emma haha. It's just nice to see that Emma is still like a normal person.
Feminism has destroyed Watson....six years after you made this comment she is a mere shell of her former self, feminism has made her lonely and depressed and she looks to have aged 30 years over the last five.
14.56 SO IMPORTANT...Gloria is such a wise lady!
wise WOMAN PLEASE :)
@@patriciax3677 True that, she ain't no lady. Not by a long shot.
Case in point.
If you buy shoes together you can do politics together.
However I propose to you this.
What if one party sees the shoe buying as a chance to bond
and the other party wants to boast that they bought shoes with someone powerful.
Oh my god i wrote my final exam essay about this book (sex and world peace) and quoted the exact same part emma did. That truly stopped me on my tracks too...
must b going around. She was definitely 👍 👌 I was just 22 when I first met her in Philly. Vibrant n serious about the sisterhood. Goddesses blessed us with this 🙏 being!
Emma's eyebrows are one of those things that make her unique
Alas, being a man-hating feminist does not make her unique.
1:14:40 - why did they cut it? I think it was includig that part with Emma talking about her subscribtion to omgyes website but whyy? :D
Yeah, I was looking for that. Odd and annoyingly censoring to cut it out.
crappy quality but here's that part.... vimeo.com/156764056
I like Emma, she seems like a great person with good intentions. I agree with a lot of these feminist points but I think it would be more interesting and productive if she interviewed people with opposing views too. That would help these discussions go deeper.
Two feminists agreeing with each other. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.
I want to listen to Gloria all day and all night, and then again. Thanks to Mia Moretti, one of Katy Perry's close friends, I've discovered that awesome woman and her fantastic books. 💜
At around 16:00, about there being more men than women now in terms of the world's population, China's "one-child only" policy had a lot a do with that, since that culture is historically one of the most extreme patriarchal societies. Countless female fetuses were aborted after that policy was effected. Now China's finally realizing its error by suffering the shortage of women - their men are now importing/buying wives from nearby countries.
+Broken Deity "these stupid bitches" lol get the fuck out of this video if you hate the feminist movement so much. You and your misogyny can fuck outta here.
@Broken Deity well you aint gonna get much sympathy with name calling like that. I get you actually believe and feel what you wrote. Too bad you can'texpress yourself in a way that is understandable.
Emma's so sweet and intelligent
We get whole by venturing into what is considered to be right for the other gender. That makes sense. We miss out on a lot if we strictly stick to our gender roles and what is considered appropriate. Not just socially (e.g. guys learning to be sensitive and girls learning to be leaders), but even just practically. Any girl will be more whole as a human if she understands cars and can fix simple things around the house and any guy - if he can do housework, mend clothes and take care of babies.
Preach
So men should get into the kitchen and make their wives a sandwich. Okay, got it.
Guys learning to cry like manbabies while women take charge...oh, fah sure, that's a concept men will hop right on board with. Oh, wait, there's more - "men belong in the kitchen!"
Guys, I can NOT make this stuff up!
May I know the title of the book please? so I can find it at the nearest bookstore. Thanks :)
No.
No u may not know the title.
My life on the road
I disagree with Gloria when she says religion does not affect the roll and devaluation of women. It is the first cause.
Susan, I agree with you...and I'm surprised Gloria would say that, so I'll have to re-watch this. That doesn't sound like her. She is not religious herself. She may say she's "spiritual", not sure.
Word to the wise, kiddo, don't believe everything your gender studies teachers (no one recognizes them as professors today) tell you. The cult/religion of feminism devalues the role (not roll, like, damn) of women, turning them into man-haters. It is the first cause.
@@patriciax3677 Oh, look, two man-hating feminists agreeing with each other. Who'd a thunk?
I have loved Gloria since I saw her in my older sister's Cosmo 1974!!!
Glory to Gloria and of course Emma
There was a part cut out at 1:14:39 right? Any idea why?
+TheTogaParty22 I´m also wondering..
+Stephany Huicochea can you send me a link? I'm not perv but I want to see it :D
Sucks that they felt the need to cut that out
BRIEF COMMENT: I AM A US CITIZEN LIVING IN SF, CA, I WILL NEVER MEET MS. WATSON, BUT I SOMETIMES GET THE FEELING SHE HAS A BETTER FUTURE IN BRITISH POLITICS RATHER THAN ACTING UNLESS SHE CAN ACT PARTTIME. SHE HAS POISE & EMPATHY & I THINK GOOD VIEWS ON CERTAIN POLITICAL TOPICS. I WISH HER WELL IN ALL HER FUTURE ENDEAVORS. JUST A THOUGHT. I HOPE SHE EXPLORES THIS CAREER IN THE COMING YEARS. I CAN EASILY SEE HER AS A PARLIAMENT MEMBER REPRESENTING A LARGE CONSTITUENCY IN ENGLAND.
Leaving the Caps Lock Key On - makes that really hard to read - so I didn't.
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Wat is that member for ,,505 livepay
Does anyone know which books of hers are the best to read?
Gloria Steinem 🌹💌🙏+🧿
Thanks from Melbourne VD
In regards to the arguement that gender equality will be addressed after more "important" issues are solved has been the standard for as long as gender equality rights have been fought for. It had always been a bargaining chip, the carrot before the horse. It has always been we will address your issues after we solve ours, and there has always been inequity. We've always been told we will get ours after we support theirs. And we kept making that exchange, time after time, out of hope. In a way, just to be able to say that we've not been unreasonable, that we've done everything they've asked of us, that we exhausted that resource. So when we decide to no longer put our rights at the mercy of our oppressors, we are villainized. We are demonized as the hysterical group that has to be protected from their own destruction. These arguments have always been the excuses for why we are still denied the right to live as the sole proprietor of our bodies. The right to manifest our own destinies. The right to choose or not choose motherhood, marriage, careers, be homemakers, to love and marry who we want, to live without violence, to not have women murdered, to have our abusers held accountable, to protect our women and children from sexual violence, to heal from our traumas, to end the normalization of trauma, and all on our terms. Oppression has many forms but liberation has only one: total.
thank you Kera
Ms. Watson would you mind talking to Christina Hoff Sommers?
+Alal nicw trolling alal. you think al women are unhinged feminists? not the case. and christina hoff summers is spot on. she is doing the world nore good than your assenine coments are.
This.
@Alex Cyriac You said ass twice
Thank you for this and for your work Emma. Brilliant and important conversation
"It's not that we're somehow so wonderful, it's just that we don't constantly have to prove our masculinity" really important statement! Often times feminists claim that they don't have any gender beliefs, but then sooner or later they say something that implies... `we need women in politics/decision-making institutions, because women are seemingly better at it´ and then I sigh... because it's hypocritical to me. I love how Gloria Steinem didn't make that move. With her statement she referred to the different socialisation of men and women, where men have to stay tough and not show any signs of weakness and women are allowed to do that and therefore have a certain liberty at handling things that can be helpful.
Crying is perceived in such a way because it shows that being overwhelmed with emotions disturbs the contribution to rational thinking. There is emotional thinking and rational thinking, to many men (me included) when someone cries it shows weakness on the rational process of that person. Is it wrong to cry? No, but many people don't realize that men and woman are different and deal with things differently, not letting men or women to cry cripples then their ability of expression. What needs to be shared is that crying isn't the solution but a process of regaining strength. It is a great tool when used properly (crying all the time isn't exactly efficient either). People need to learn to balance their emotional and rational expression/thoughts, that is being human, being one or the other "masculine" and "feminine" (or at least perceived that way) and truly know themselves. All of these problems come from lack of confidence in ourselves as individuals and as humankind destroying earth.
I am in Quebec ( French) Canada, WE have all those equal rights you mentioned. English Canada is not equally advanced. , mothers get one year of paid leave, Fathers have parental leave as well. have a nice day.
I love what Robin Williams said about Canada
"You are the kindest country in the world. You are like a really nice apartment over a meth lab."
A solid Belief system in what is actually right. And the educational conviction to see them through is armour enough. That's fundamentally what strength comes from. You can be surrounded by friends and be completely alone.
Self confidence is an actualisation of yourself.
No person can give it to you but they can certainly take it away.
ema watson would be an amazing journalist
She spews feminist anti-male propaganda, not actual news, thus could never be an actual journalist....only "amazing" to other feminists in her cult. Nothing more.
@@hellogoodbye4061 oh my god. nothing here is anti-male. nothing she has ever said has been anti-male. that's your insecurities talking. lol. be better try harder.
@@Cole_Cross oh my god. Everything she says is anti-male. Everything she has ever said has been anti-male. That's your indoctrinated brainwashed mind talking. Be better, try harder. (now add an "lol" here for further smug, self-righteousness).
@@Cole_Cross Is it any wonder your page only has eight subscribers....a nobody spewing man-hate to anyone who calls out the cult of feminism. Be better, try harder.
@@Cole_Cross Be better, try harder. The best way to go about this is to leave the cult of feminism. Be better, try harder. You.....can.....do.....it!
EW needs to run for prime minister
She hates half the human population.....not the best candidate.
I have loved Emma and admired Gloria but after this, I have mutual feelings for both of them
Two feminists agreeing with each other....nothing to see here folks, move along....when was the last time these two stopped yapping and actually listened to men's concerns, as they certainly are confident they know how to "fix our evil toxins".
@believeit1234 if you want to listen 2 feminists not agreeing with each other, you can always hear to podcast between Gloria steinem and Jameela Jamil
@@futureamnesia9672 Jamil turned her back on feminism many moons ago, thus it would not be two "men bad" feminists akin to these two.
@believeit1234 aww you poor thing. Must be so hard to find feminists that falls in the precious ideology that you've created of world that you feel the need to go on the videos of people you know you'd disagree and go on to disagree as predicted. Must be a really lonely path. Is there anyone you know would save you from your pain?
@@futureamnesia9672 awww you poor widdle feminist, so, so oppressed by those baddy-waddy toxic patriarchal men.
Must be so hard to find normal people, both men and women, that falls in the horrid man-hating ideology that your ilk created that you feel you need to belittle any lowly male who calls out these two feminists.
You know you'd go on bashing the likes of men and go on to disagree as predicted. Damn, it must be difficult hating half the human populace. It must suck being you.
Must be a really lonely path. Is there anyone you know who can save you from your pain. Repeat the evils of feminism before it's too late and you find yourself all lonely and bitter later in life.
Just trying to help here, man-hater.
Emma = bona-fide woman
Interesting watch, very inspiring. "Humanism", though, is a concept that doesn't specifically means something about believing in God (Although maybe for US citizens it means that, I wouldn't know) It means believing in the human being, that the human being can influence History, that what matters are your actions and believing in supporting other human beings and supporting culture (The study of humane litterae, humanistic studies) During the 1400 there was a huge cultural movement in Europe that was primarly concerned with empowering human beings.
F.F.R.F. ffrf.org/
What a fucking pair !!
They can start the generator today because there was one woman on the love for each of us
"Making Love" is another set of words for "erotica". . . . As Gloria says, it's much, much better than just sex or some dominating type of messed up situation.
@JmeTN Are you ok with the people that you have relations with not really loving you?
I'd say that the people that you refer to in your 2nd to last sentence there, for some reason have their being and sexuality distorted at some really deep level.
Still 'Making Love' is much, much better than just X - I don't know if people can really have it both ways. Perhaps it's like getting ones taste buds numbed out if one eats too much rich food, then the good stuff isn't so good or even noticed or cared about any more.
@JmeTN To answer your first reply, I don't know if disassociating sex from love and being loved and being loving and kind is something that most people would really want. A good number of people would rather do without than do it without love.
Another disassociation that people often make is disassociating love making from procreation. I feel like every child has a right to be conceived in love,... as well as the consent and choice of both parents.
@JmeTN If someone CONSENTS to being "dominated", it's not really domination.... Let's be honest.
I love Emma Watson
Guess somebody has to, might as well be you.
Love this! ❤
this is sooooo good!
Como eu não tinha visto esse vídeo ainda? Todo mundo precisa vê-lo, é maravilhoso!
The discussion about Porn is so muddled.. Using "Rape" synonymously with porn seems pretty misguided at best. What she says about rape is totally valid and vital but is not entirely relevant nor the exact same as what is problematic about porn. Yes perhaps there are overlaps but it is quite ignorant to treat it the same and potentially dangerous. Was it really her intention? And Emma's lack of experience really shows at these moments when she doesn't question it.
ps Trump still seen as a joke in early 2016...
and now its 2020 and. look. what the joke has done.
this is brilliant
Gloria's childhood freed her from the regimentation of living by the scheduled ringing of bells, conformation to almost impossible dress codes and the conditioning of bright alive children to tolerate intolerable levels of boredom, conditioning them for corporate jobs, the military or other life denying endeavors. Resting when you're tired, eating when you're hungry and peeing when you have to is a huge luxury in the workplace of most people and independence from the time clocks and bells telling you what to do when freed Gloria to access her creativity and her humanity.
Still fidèle for EM
I love you Emma watson 🌹💖🙏+🧿 thanks. V D
Vey interesting interview. I saw Gloria Steinman on tv yesterday and i watched the tv sereis about her life and activism which was great to be honest, but... on putting women together at a table to end violence (22:00 mins), what about Cristobel Pankhurst and her table of women with the industrial production of white feathers and their army of young girls to hand them out to men of fighting age in Britain at the start of world war one. Of this Lloyd George said something like truly women are ready for, and capable of, the kind of decisions of public office. Trouble is though as with all political decisions someone has to get picked for sacrifice, but women are for the most part protected from any equal consequences of this decision. There is even a long standing tradition of making civilians immune to the consequences of warfare, even if difficult to maintain it is there as a norm and standard. That strangely also gives a privilege to women along with children. The only weapons that would directly impact civilians as well as soldiers are nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, and both are banned. ergo its ok for women to sit around a table and agree to allow the mass destruction of men, while at the same time enjoying immunity and peace campaigning. The later then now looking more like a instrument of particular interest and "women's laws" than some law derived from natural law. If you say this to feminists they just say its: "boys with toys" and "men's wars". There is no attempt to reason about this, its just a strategic move of avoidance and distraction and perhaps to elicit an angry response at the frivolity, so they can then say coercive and abusive male dominant behaviour allowed due to patriarchy. We need more laws to protect women from abusive and harmful male behaviour afforded by and about power. I can take it if its just coming out of a Marxist feminist conflict theory re- ontologised to make gender difference as the fundamental friend/enemy distinction in a Schmittian Political Theology. At least you know its war for absolute dominance in their eyes. But Gloria Steinem seems to couch this in terms of human rights as a identity to gender identity. So then whereas my Marxist feminist "enemy" can just ignore or distract or ad homion me, an equal rights advocate rather than trying tactics to silence me, or cancel me has to answer the question: In what way then is this right or good for me too?
Maybe that's the take away: "The means are the end" (28:00 mins) Gloria Steinem opposes this to Marx Engles (and i guess Lenin) she categories as the maxim: "The end justifies the means". This though i think is also in Marx as the question of praxis from the Critique of "the philosophers" as only interpreting the world What is to be done". the French post structuralists did much to escape this teleological "end justifies the means" norm of revolutionary political activism. What does it mean to make the means the end? Is it like Derrida's notion that justice cannot be given and so cannot be deconstructed. That to me means, as opposed to a utopian vision idea or formulae determining action, rather a continuous revolutions. Theoretically and practically interesting but i wouldn't want top live there. it would mean even jsut in the limits of gender a society in total conflict at all levels from the supreme court to your bedroom. The tools are the legal system and certain institutions like universities and health care corporations. the aim is metaphysical not teleological in that they seek to remove power asymmetries from human relations. they do his by describing all human relations as if mediated by institutions eg the institution of the family as opposed to the old "family of man". They do this by vice of a bad analogy: claiming families are governed by unwritten norms is the same as the family governed by a pseudo hierarchy with a man as the unelected head of the family. I imagine a bit like in the Godfather movie. "Patriarchy" here was from its use in anthropology as I recall the fallacy of thinking all organisations are structured like an institution. This though is not a methodological or category mistake or other sort of error, it is a necessary but incorrect abduction in order to use the law and medicine to change what were previously private spaces. That is straight from enlightenment law and politics and science man is first self interested and at war everywhere there is not laws and power to enforce them. So that means form this orientation a family is in state of war without law and power over it mediating it. Making the means the end implies then that the aim is to take control of the whole of society all the way down, and all the way up, a totalitarianism, but one that situates itself as about the ends of rule of law, positive rights, and minorities, and oppressed, but it seems these supposed anti totalitarian aims (as it was expressed by liberalism after word war two) are really not the point, the point is legal and medical take over. We haven't got to grips with the fact that totalitarianism can take many forms and architypes. Even laws and rights that appear opposed to totalitarianism can become, when made teleological, a new kind of totalitarianism. especially when the only recognised value system now is the law and the only evil is the absence of law or bad law which is seen then as subject to the brutal use of power and force. which then requires in this myth of the family at war, an even bigger omnipotent omniscient (and the other one) system of institutions to be run by women as "carer lawyers for power". tasking over civil society is the pseudo aim disguised as an aim for justice equality and protection of vulnerability. That is correcting apparent asymmetries of power though law and heath care and overseeing institutions then is an "end in itself"? equality is the pseudo teleological excuse.
Might revisit some dead white men: Kant, Marx, Derrida on praxis. to do a better job of interpretation here.
On "the means being the end": perhaps a liberal feminist approach could accommodate this as the shift from a negative view of rights and freedoms, that is Rights as freedom from governmental power, and freedom as just not being prevented by force. This is traditionally contrasted with the notions of positive Rights and freedoms which, from Isaiah Berlin (Essay on Liberty), meant an: external to the person definition of the good human being, the good life, the healthy or safe life, it can be teleological like in Natural law as concern the person means the need to make the person into that model. Berlin allowed the former but thought the latter was basically the view of freedom of totalitarian regimes. Indeed i believe this shows us the strange link we can find in history between the far left the far right and theocracies. They have an ideal person in mind, and how to make them. i guess Foucault's Critique of mental health would also be a critique of this which we call a critique of normative images of people from authority.
But things have moved on since the 1950's. So perhaps say Martha Nussbaum's notions of capability can be expressed not as a positive freedom or positive right but the capacity to act to choose etc. Freedom to here is not meant to be about constructing a person then, but reconstructing society such that people can exercise freedom as a capacity, and so giving people the "means" to use freedom.
Alternatively it seems from reading that "radical feminism" is said to be about the actualisation of freedom through institutions like heath care welfare education reform of civil society (Hegel) really its metaphysics and ontology is about power relations in and through which there are asymmetries that can be discovered in synchronic data differences of wealth and diachronic historical repetitions and reasons. in this repetition through institutions takes the place of Marx's repetitious passive workers before they achieve class consciousness though struggle and education or ideology removal by experts.
Tactically liberal feminism and radical feminism can look the same on the surface, the same actions, but really they are radical opposed in terms of world view, aims and strategy. In the early stages of political praxis these can be indistinguishable from outside. Indeed the radical feminist would be crazy to just conduct a praxis that is too different from the existing state of affairs. Modern praxis draws heavily on Derrida Foucault and Deleuze who all see revolutions not as so much a radical break from history but a process from within the existing order. If i was to stake money on a thinker here it would be i guess Amy Allen "The end of Progress"(2016) the year of this interview. I would contrast this with Rahel Jaeggi in "Critique of Forms of Life" and another i can't remember. This is discussed in the context of praxis by Bernard E. Harcourt in Critique and Praxis (2020) My bible of this political praxis turn. The question is to articulate the notions of incremental progress that does not presuppose and aim or a end or utopia. To use John McDowell's Google lecture on "Intention In Action" it is like knowing you are crossing a road and getting further without reference to the other side. But of course the progress here is really at the metaphysical level of life, it seeks to change people in accord with the asymmetry of power, even if it just looks like instituional change as Gloria Steinem says it involves changes in dispositions. This is not so alien to liberal capitalism effects for they ask us to change in terms of increasing our human capital skills education for the market. That process of increasing efficiency can be put as an aim of increasing total GDP or just in terms of increasing the persons wealth which is not simply end driven since it does not need to refer immediately to the total GDP. But hen it can look like Berlin's positive freedom in that they are after a perfect worker in a perfect working environment. It became Taylorism and this was applied to the home, the private home now called the domestic realm, reasoned as domestic science, and brought in by a woman genius industrial chemist who applied the ideas to workers homes. This has no clear end in a dynamic capitalist economy as what constitutes perfection here is a relation to the multipolicy of the ever changing market. This too me looks very like radical feminism which seeks in the home not more efficiency but less power asymmetry in home and society. Since power is intersectional then this also is a relation to an ever changing environment of justice and inequality metrics. So not a simple external set aim. Thing is someone is in your house in your soul telling you how to be more efficient and less less disposed to exploit power asymmetries. Ironically these are not opposed projects, but can be in tandem. Which can mean the radical feminist have been captured by liberal capitalism, or that they are using liberal feminism as a ladder to climb up through the contemporary world to then throw away when used and take up whatever Radical tools they can find. This needs more work from me I think folks.
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man i jsut want to stare at Emma all day and night long. Shes so gorgeous it hurts. i jsut hate her views
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Does anyone have the time where emma talks about omgyes?
I just want to hold Emma in my arms