I just realized that fkin beast being all defensive and shit complaining abt how bigby nearly gouged his eyes when mf was the one who started wailing on him out of anger then Gren,he started tossin bigby around then later on in the game he still complains abt it even if u don't rip off his arm
Honestly it's very similar to the real life situation a lot of big men face. Just because you're bigger and stronger than someone, you're supposed to stand there and let them hit you. I've legit seen men getting slapped and scratched by their much smaller girlfriend, and nobody does a thing, but then as soon as he slaps her back? She plays the shocked innocent victim, and everyone flies into a blind rage, like they didn't just see everything that she did to deserve that slap. Like the Indian gamr show, where a woman slapped one of the contestants, and nobody said a word, but when he slapped her back, all the men literally started screaming at him, and stormed the stage to beat the absolute crap out of him.
@@Trojianmaru there is a level of responsibility to not go over board in relatilaton but like you said it's quite messed up the dubble standard for violence.
@@callumfinlayson-palmer8393 I agree, but it's there's a term in dnd and video games in general, a "Glass Cannon" They can scratch your eyes out, kick you in the nuts, scream whatever they want, but even if you hold back as much as you can (something you shouldn't have to do when defending yourself) you can still hurt them just by slapping them or grabbing them too hard. Then they go running and show off their bruises and split lip, and everyone comes to kick your ass, refusing to see your scratches and bruises. At best, you might get a "she probably just did that while defending herself" completely missing the hypocrisy.
To be fair, he did a lot of bad stuff in his past before they crossed over into the "Mundy" world. Still, it doesn't justify how they treat him now when he's just trying to do his job.
@@demonwolf570 In the comic they sign something when they agree to live in fabletown. Basically forgiving all past actions and behaviors. Its why Bluebeard and a few other more dangerous fables are allowed to be there.
The question I have why hasn’t Netflix made a show about this already or Disney+ or any app why not if you choose anything why won’t they make this series there’s so much good in this video game I love the characters even the villains it would be perfect for the small scream and they should do a Max Payne series while out at all because that movie didn’t do the series justice
I heard a quote from somewhere, "You don't know the amount of violence it took for someone to be so gentle," and I feel like that could explain Bigby very well.
ehhhhh not really.... Bigby is best played as a complex character who does what he does to protect fabletown while still being irredeemable but redeemable at the same time... in my playthrough, when Holly was talking to Bigby when she was half dead, i just kept silent especially when she actually talks about bigby since i dont want a clean cut answer from Bigby that he does care or not... you get me?
Man, I still adore his character. (Obviously depending on your choices) He can be so nice and just.. so easily frustrated. Everyone just seems to complain no matter what he does, it's very infuriating. I feel super bad for Bigby, he deserves to be treated better. Obviously he won't let people get away with what they've done so I don't know why they push that on him. He's definitely a comfort character for me now, I'd love to hug him but he'd probably not like that lmao
Honestly, this makes me appreciate Colin even more than I already do because he was the only one of the characters who could see why Bigby works the way he does. "Everybody wants Bigby to smile and shave and take a shower now and than, hell I'm practically the president of the "Bigby don't be such a dick" club but this is the wrong fucking time to put shackles on him."
I quote a movie. "Be their hero, Be their savior, Be their angel, Be anything they need you to be or be none of it. You don't owe this world a thing you never did."
@@michaelmurray8134 appreciate the reply friend. Although I respectfully disagree. While now Bigby may be doing good and helping the fables, we cannot dispute that they have a fair reason to not only be afraid but also weary of him. He was the big bad wolf after all. He committed murder. Tried to eat little red riding hood. Was feared across the land. Even though now I am sure he means well, you can't change the past. Although you are right the quote matches since it came after Clark was feared by the people following a bombing. Thanks for reading
@@henryany4969. As the game showed though every one of his accusers started. How are you going to swing a pipe at a man then cry about him beating ya for it?
@@henryany4969 what about the cowards like Crane who were trusted to be mayor? What about the legendary swindlers he has working for him? What about every other cautionary tale living in Fabletown? Is Bigby really the only one they should be afraid of? At least he’s on their side. Grendel was just as bad as he was way back in the day, and he gets to play victim for picking a fight he not only started but meant to end with a crippled or dead bigby. The whole point is that they’re hypocrites, they’re all just as bad but try to pretend otherwise
Fabletown really didn't deserve Bigby as sheriff. Almost everyone was either a selfish asshole, wrapped up in their own sob story, or shockingly naïve. Several characters were a combination of all three. Considering Bigby used to be a giant wolf that ate whoever he came across, he's REMARKABLY even-tempered. People straight-up attempt to kill him, and then whine and play victim when he hits back. It was deeply frustrating to play as him... and also very realistic. Because that's exactly how many people ARE.
Damn right. Every Fucking interaction had them pushing his buttons, and either bitching when he pushes back or STILL pushing when he chooses to be better. And that's oddly what makes The Crooked Man a darkly convincing villain. Because the Fables are self-sabotaging Fuck-ups that need either a Crooked Man or Bigby to stop them completely ruining themselves.
I mean, Bigby works for a corrupt workforce back when Crane was mostly in charge and if you pay attention to what Gren said when you confess to Holly about her sister's death, you would pretty much understand as to why he doesn't like you & Snow. What also doesn't help is that Fabletown is a dysfunctional environment where many people are struggling with their new lifestyle.
@@Steve_Minecraft555 It's not as sympathetic, because their lifestyle is a choice. They always have the option to go back, they just don't want to. They want to remain in a big city surrounded by humans, instead of a rural community of only fables where they don't need a glamor. They choose their unsustainable and dysfunctional lives. The very fact that Bigby changed so much from what he used to be is proof that the rest of them could change if they wanted to. Instead, most of them just want to have their cake and eat it, too. They're not willing to make the same sacrifices others made, but they still want that life. They didn't deserve Bigby, or Snow. Crane was the government they deserved.
@LordRaine if you haven't read the Fables Comics, they were cast out and funny how Bigby has still decided to stay instead of leaving the town that hated him.
"I chose my path, you chose the way of the hero. And they found you amusing, for a while, the people of this city. But there's one thing they love more than a hero: it's to see a hero fail, fall. Die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you. Why bother?"
Bigby is one of my favorite characters of all time. He's the only one trying to keep things together with a community of people who, despite living for centuries, refuse to see how hard Bigby is fighting for them; everyone throws it back in his face and he can never win. Even Snow plays victim and "woe is me" every time Bigby does something that isn't completely by the book, even though she has no real idea what he's going through and the reality of the situation. There are definitely times violence can be avoided like tearing Gren's arm off when he's already down, but they get mad at him if he so much as defends himself FROM THEM. Fabletown says they don't deserve Bigby as their sheriff, and you know what? They're right. They deserve a lot worse than a man who gives his everything like him.
Snow was always a bitch in the comics too. When Bigby got her pregnant while they were BOTH under a love potion, she treated him as if he'd raped her and when she chose to live with his children in a place he couldn't go, she treated him like a deadbeat dad.
This really made me just ship Bigby and Nerissa more cause she is the only character that shows any sort of vulnerability and trust with Bigby. She understands why he does what he does, how hard he tries, and she values him for it. Every other character treats you like shit no matter what you do, but Nerissa is loyal and good to him. Snow's whole "you don't think I know what it's like to have my life in danger?" bit really annoyed me. Bigby was explaining to her the stress and constant strain he faces every day, and she immediately throws around her past when they aren't the same thing. She gave Bigby that job, and then when he gets constantly taunted, attacked, shot, and beaten, she acts as though he is being unfair by defending himself? Snow always acted above Bigby and threw around her sad past, playing the victim when they are talking about the present and very different circumstances.
I feel u but I also understand where Snow is coming from considering she was kept as a sex slave by The Seven Dwarves before she escaped to FableTown so given the fact that Bigby knows this and still says "you don't know what it's like to be pushed into doing things" is pretty messed up
@@uhhhyea6313 Yeah but Bigby is talking about the present day, not the past. You can't change the past but you can choose how to act in the present. Bigby tries so hard to not cause shit and yet even when it's not his fault, he gets blamed. Bigby in the present day is treated like shit in a position that Snow gave to him, and he is venting this to her and trying to get her to help come up with some alternative or even just see his point of view. He is attacking people willy-nilly; he is the one who gets assaulted and then blamed when he defends himself. I get that Snow's trauma influences how she acts, but Bigby is still looking to her for help and/or understanding about his present circumstances and instead of actually helping him she just throws her own past in his face when that does nothing for the present situation.
@@lilchaos9212 Yeah but regardless of what happens in the present, the past still happened. If she was kept as a sex slave, then she was most definitely forced into a lot of corners and had to do shit she didn’t want to do. So she has an idea of what it can be like. Your point is pretty invalid in regards to this.
@@ReeseDavalos there are two sides to this, saying what Bigby said made sense, he wasn't considering her past, but for her it is still a scar and it shows, they both should apologize in truth, him for even if unintentionally reminding her of a bad time, her for not understanding where bigby was coming from and making it about herself, they were both just hurt for different reasons
This reminds me of a western where the people of this town all talked about wanting their town to be safe but when the sheriff does what has to be done to acheive that goal, i.e. killing some violent criminals his actions are condemned. And eventually he says "you all want peace, but none of you want to do what it takes to achieve it!"
@@dutchvanderbilt9969 I supposed, but maybe you should look into Batman and most superheroes cases on why they don't kill. Perhaps you might even learn something. Plus I am pretty sure that heroes like Batman and Spider-Man would have spared the Crooked Man and his cronies.
I'm gonna tell you how I see it. Bigby is working hard to be a better person. But others provoke him to go back to his old ways and he does, to protect himself and others. Everyone is quick to judge him forgetting what they did or not fully understanding what lengths he's going through. He does what he thinks is right. He does his job.
100% agree. Bigby is trying. Narissa seems to be the only one who sees that, thus why she's probably the only person who isn't truely scared of Bigby. When others provoke him into going full-wolf like picking a fight with him, he's forced to put them in their place even though it makes him look like he's going back to his old ways. I think a beautiful arc they should do with Bigby in Season 2 is the town accepts him for what he does and who he is, and Bigby himself accepts what he's done and strikes a balance between the Big Bad Wolf and Bigby Wolf. Bigby's struggle is he's trying to become a pacifist of sorts, but his job doesn't allow for that.
@@Lord_Of_Shorvia Sure, but Bigy already dogwalked him and had people yelling to stop by the time you get the arm prompt. The "fetch" line was definitely a "I can be bad too" moment.
This well made edit makes me even more excited for the wolf among us season 2, the guy trying to change and be better but people always criticize him for everything and the criminals trying to kill him makes it incredibly difficult him to control his rage. My man did nothing wrong
Bigby is the scapegoat to all the fables troubles. Probably was like that from the beginning even when he was the bad guy. In my humble opinion Snow still has no idea how much it hurts just to be bigby. She DOES sit at a desk all day, bigby has his life threatened every episode and the only character that has his back is the Woodsman. My choices always put the woodsman as an ally/friend, literally the only other character that is a “bad guy”, the woodsman tries to do the right thing in the end but still gets treated badly.
Woody is most unexpected ally, but when they both talked about putting their past behind, they actually agreed. And make a good team. The thing about Snow she both sits behind the desk, and then talks about how the system is broken, like she isn't the one who can go to the "boss" and tell him to actually use money, or don't listen to him and help your own community financially instead of spending it on his apartment renovations, rich wine or massages. Yet she still does it even after Crane is out. As Bigby said "Fuck this!"
I still don't understand how most of these fables have the balls to mouth off to Bigby when they know what he is. Bro he killed a dragon and defeated an army.
"He has free reign to murder you in your sleep." It's lines like this that make me want to burn her tree. She and everyone else gives only the partial story to paint Bigby as the bad guy to cover up their misfortunes and mistakes, when he's the one protecting them.
Even if you bring him in alive to be interrogated and hear them say "Bigby should decide" they still get scared when you make the call to kill him. Some of them don't want you to while some of them say he doesn't deserve to get off that easy. No matter how hard he tries, if he's good cop or bad cop, Bigby just can't seem to please everyone. I wouldn't blame him if he quit his job. Why try to be a hero when all they'll ever see you as is the villain? Everyone has their own answer.
Bigby is the best and my favorite character. He literally puts up with everyone’s shit all the time. He only attacks when attacked. I can kinda relate to him because sometimes I feel like no matter what I do it’s just never enough for others. I honestly just want to leave this bull shit behind me forever and live my own way without someone always criticizing or judging. But I don’t have enough finance or experience to do that yet. Unlike Bigby who can just leave, I’m still stuck.
But even Bigby can't just leave, can he? Fabletown is like Night City frem Cyberpunk, no matter how hard ya try, ya would always be drowned in there as one of it's residents.
@@souravshirolkar9176 Seems like they can leave, as it was shown in the game that some of the fables are sent to the farm. The problem would be that there really isn't anyplace else to go. Fabletown and the farm are apparently the safest places for Fables.
@@romansionis2470He's a lycanthrope. He can live as a human as long as he doesn't get pushed physically to turn. Even then, the guy can just turn into a wolf and run into a forest, live like before. There's noone really enforcing living in a community.
Even if the worst choices are shown in the vid, it's still not wrong. You can choose all the good choices and help those people, yet they still see you as the villain and get scared whenever you show up
You know Spider-Man is always called a "menace" by J. Jonah Jameson and some other people even when he does good things for the city, but he never stoop down to the Big Bad Wolf's level. Something like this can also be said for other characters like Batman or Optimus Prime.
okay. they always seem to lose the context when they were against bigby. sometimes the violence could def be avoided, but sometimes the violence was necessary!!! what the fuck , like the crooked man had a silver bullet aimed at bigby, beast tried to kill bigby, gren tried to kill bigby. he’s been in danger every time. again, violence can be avoided more often than not, but sometimes. sometimes just let bigby defend himself.
People like them like to play the victim. They always focus on the injuries they got but never on the injuries they gave to others. It doesn't matter that Bigby was just defending himself or forced to get violent all that matters is that they got hurt and they feel salty about it.
Yeah its quite ironic they call him an "animal" and a "monster", but half the time he doesn't even start the fights. He asks a question, he's polite, he's only trying to do his job. Bigby tried to reason with Beast and nearly gets seriously hurt for it, he gets shot by Dum and Dee dozens of times and is expected to not get pissed off, Gren threw him around the bar and then cried like a baby when Bigby finally snapped and didn't just take it. If they didn't want to see the wolf that they're apparently all so afraid of, then why go about pissing Bigby off? He's just doing his job and if they didn't pull shit no one would get hurt.
"He may not be perfect, but the safest hands are still his own" I feel like this quote encapsulates Bigby pretty well. The dude has a violent past, and isn't as "structured/disciplined" as Snow, but the man is a fucking man. I'd trust him with a life or death decision any day of the week.
People change, you can't judge the book by it's cover. People think of bigby he still the bad guy outside of his personality , but in the inside he has kind that people cant see.
"There's no such thing as a lone wolf. A wolf need it's pack to share knowledge, experience, skills. A wolf needs his pack to survive." - Gideon Smeed.
This is why I like the game, the feel, the music, and of course Bigby. Yet it really brings up one of my grievances with these sorts of games. I'm not sure how to best describe it but there sometimes feel like a lack of nuance, like unable to actually respond to individual accusations but forced to react to broad things. Gren and Beast both more or less started their fights. Ideally it would have been nice if you could object asking for Beauty and Holly to vouch for what really happened depending on how you treated them during the game. Like if you lied for Beauty she actively defends you, if you don't get involved she merely gives the facts of the matter and of course if you tell Beast the truth she just doesn't speak up.
And people will try to justify Bigby in ripping Gren's arm off, even though he was the one who hit Bigby first & that Gren was no longer a threat already.
He may not be the hero they want, but he's the hero they get, and they have to deal with it. Bigby is literally like Godzilla, he's teaching a lesson to those who deserve it but after that people will continue see him as a monster.
Godzilla was mostly a villain through out the years tho. And idk about you, but causing a billion dollars of property damage is not very heroic, especially for the poor construction workers.
@Steve_Minecraft555 I'm talking about the legendary version of Godzilla. Losing billions of dollars in property damage is far better than losing your entire life or the whole world.
dog i totally feel it .... ya live your training to kill monster and one day errbody you had protected now looks at you like a monster. and they don't have the right to say one goddamn thing but they still do and they know you are still gonna protect them from the monster and you know that you will never have love and you will die alone. and you can't do nothing to change that shit.
The only reason I think snow was hard on him is first of all, she has feelings for him and dosent want him in situations where he is the wolf and gets hurt, and she’s trying not to live again bc she can’t imagine losing some one else like she did Prince Charming
@@johncarver767 The comics would disagree with you on that, but you are sort of right, she's never really shown any kind of romantic interest in Bigby except for that apartment scene in episode 4 but you could argue that wasn't romantic interest more like genuine concern.
@@northwind8807 Honestly Snow View on Bigby is border to Judgmental or Sympathizing. Deep down she knows that he's a good man trying to do what's best for his community but at the same time she can't just let go of who he used to be and can't fully agree with his methods.
I'm curious what the wolf among us 2 will do with Bigby. I can see him living in self exile from fabletown and working underground in a way. I think it'd be neat.
I guess it depends on which version of events is declared canon. A more violent Bigby might be in exile or at least be resented but a more patient Bigby might be...well in the same situation since the other fables are nowhere near innocent.
It's hard to say. Telltale is hellbent on keeping quiet about plans (which if you watched Internet Historian's video on No Man's Sky... that's probably for the best).
@@kieranadamson3224 Sadly, it's the 'Attack first. Think almost never' version of Bigby that seems to be canon, as the game The Wolf Among Us is canon to the comics ... then, the game was adapted to comics (with expanded lore regarding the main antagonists and their motivations) ... and, unfortunately, in the comics version of The Wolf Among Us, Bigby practically always goes for the brutal and berserk option - which also makes him miss some important information (such as never seeing the words on the blackboard, since he arrived too late). Heck, he doesn't even go after the girl, when given his final choice, at the very end. He just thinks something like 'Meh. Whatever. It's probably not important' ... but it is extremely important and very negatively affects the girl's fate. If the game is canon to the graphic novels and the graphic novel adaptation of The Wolf Among Us chooses a barbaric version of Bigby with less than stellar investigative skills, then, very unfortunately, it would stand to reason that the canon version of the game's Bigby suffers from the same problems.
Man, this looks like it absolutely nails being a Garou in the World of Darkness. You're trying to save the world, but everyone hates you and you get so fucking mad you end up ripping some monster's head off which makes other people mad because "its not how you do things" even though monsters dont play by the rules. God, I miss playing W:tA.
And Anti-Heroes like The Punisher tells others to never copy his style of "heroism". Especially how Frank can sometimes be hypocritical with his stance as an anti-hero.
I remember when the crooked man said his little speech. Everyone got mad at me. Like wtf? I finally told each of them off. I was so mad at everyone. Then they suddenly remembered who the real bad guy was and he was threw down the well.
He just try to sorry for everything he did in the past, but the thing he gets is angry and fear from everyone, when i saw Snow watched him kill or let Dee brother alive every decision you choice, you just see the scared face from Snow 😢😢😢.
Seeing bibgby being so hard jugdjed by everyone, and always having his past rising up again and again, making him and the player feel blame, mekes me appreciate the ending where the bastard behind everything gets a trial, giving you the chance to show them that, when odds are against you, critics about your actions rain, even so you have the capacity to be better and explain with proff that the man i guilty, and taking him out of his power sistem alive is the best victory for someone like bigby, who left his wolf behind to be a better person
Wow i never saw that ending, i didn’t know you can turn your back on Fabletown, how are they going to address that in a sequel if my ending was the opposite or somewhere in-between?
I'm sure they'll do the same thing they did for TWD season 2 where your save file for season 1 is imported into season 2 so all your choices transfer to the new game.
You can either prove the Crooked Man wrong or unironically prove him correct. And what do you mean by "everyone"?.. Beauty trust you & has treated you with human decency. Holly & TJ didn't have that much of an issue with Bigby & holly is more angry at snow. Lawrence, Jack & Johan were not even angry at Bigby for anything. Collin was a real bro and Woody wanted to bury the hatchet with Bigby and not fight anymore.
You should know that jesus christ have never gave up on humanity who hated him and saw him as a tyrannical king back when he was still alive, but even after his resurrection: He still cared for us.
a man trying to change his past doing more for everyone than ANYONE else. no matter what they say. Because the hard truth is, without the big bad wolf there to complain and blame? They'd tear themselves apart. The Bigby i chose spared him. When you do that they get mad. You kill him? they get pissed still. Bigby is a hero. I hope the second game has fable town put respect on his name edit: no matter how rough new york is, no fable will ever understand his place. not even snow
That's just how free speech works and people need to decide for themselves, even when you disagree with them. Like everybody in the Crooked Man meeting were already disagreeing with one another.
Well, i was bigby on the game once and we saved fabletown by killing the bad guys, we did our best to help the fables and even if they treat us as a irredeemable bad guy we don't care, we did our job and we love faith disguised as nerissa
Especially the lil touches, like finding out just how hard he tries to respect her privacy and not think about her 24/7, by smoking constantly cause otherwise he can smell her scent from literally anywhere in the city. When you hear that, it makes you realise most of the time when he starts smoking, it's cause he's thinking about her.
@@LethalByChoice I mean yeah that's kinda the beauty of it, she can absolutely be a bitch sometimes, and still the creature who could wipe her out without even blinking stays patient and loyal just because of love, and she changes because of that too
Even if the plot get's kinda weird I would advice you to read Fables the series that this game is baset on. "this game is something of a prequal to the comics".
You are perfectly correct, but I would also advise to read the graphic novel adaptation of The Wolf Among Us, as it vastly expands the lore of the main antagonists and their motivations.
And plus beauty never cheated on beast really never this is just disgusting what they have done to bigby and they just ask where is bigby but no one ask how is bigby i could swear they just should apologise to bigby
It's wierd cause i never did any of this, i didn't rip gren's arm, i was kind and even spared the villian in the end almost all of them praise me for my job and i genually feel great to be the sheriff. It all depend on your choices, at least it was like that for me and i wouldn't chance anything.
I love how all of them wanna act like they so terrible and that he’s a terrible fucking person cuz he ate two talking pigs and yeah the offing red’s grandma and wearing her clothes to wait for her to visit to eat her too is definitely nutts😂😂😂😂 don’t get me wrong but that’s basically all he did. But anyway they act so afraid and then try to beat his ass or kill him every chance they get just because he’s trying to do his job as the local sheriff. That what I’ll never get.
Such assh*les. They attack him and then wonder why he defends himself and also wonder why they can’t win against him, saying ‘I didn’t even do anything’. 💀
This is really infuriating when you play Bigby as someone who does things by the book: respecting everyone's rights but also enforcing the rules. The disrespect is unjustified and it makes you want for Bigby to just quit and leave them to their own devices. You just know that corruption and crimes would just skyrocket without him, it still exists with him around but they have to stay low, otherwise Bigby would go after them. Snow, too, feels very self-righteous. She tries to do good and genuinely wants to help people, but she's not the one who gets her hands dirty, Bigby does.
Even if you make most of the nice/good choices, Bigby will still be seen as evil to some extent. Toad will still see you as an asshole, even if bigby isn't wrong he still is seen as the bad guy. The towns views change only slightly at the end, to more neutral, the only ones who truly don't see bigby as a person and not someone who is evil or just an asshole are Nerissa, Faith, Colin (to some extent), flycatcher and thats it. I don't count snow cause she was still wasn't happy with bigby turning into a werewolf (when he didn't have a choice). Even accounting that this ending is where he kills crooked man before hand, it still shows how somehow he is evil, even though throwing someone down the well isn't as bad as killing (even though the outcome is the same) and bigby never started a fight without threats or provocation.
Even after you kill Dum, Snow still choose to save Bigby and not let him die. Maybe you should cut her some slack and also what if a Mundy saw Bigby go werewolf in a public area?
i like how people just flat out attack Bigby and then complain when they get hurt.
I just realized that
fkin beast being all defensive and shit complaining abt how bigby nearly gouged his eyes when mf was the one who started wailing on him out of anger
then Gren,he started tossin bigby around then later on in the game he still complains abt it even if u don't rip off his arm
Honestly it's very similar to the real life situation a lot of big men face. Just because you're bigger and stronger than someone, you're supposed to stand there and let them hit you.
I've legit seen men getting slapped and scratched by their much smaller girlfriend, and nobody does a thing, but then as soon as he slaps her back? She plays the shocked innocent victim, and everyone flies into a blind rage, like they didn't just see everything that she did to deserve that slap.
Like the Indian gamr show, where a woman slapped one of the contestants, and nobody said a word, but when he slapped her back, all the men literally started screaming at him, and stormed the stage to beat the absolute crap out of him.
No dude seriously
@@Trojianmaru there is a level of responsibility to not go over board in relatilaton but like you said it's quite messed up the dubble standard for violence.
@@callumfinlayson-palmer8393 I agree, but it's there's a term in dnd and video games in general, a "Glass Cannon"
They can scratch your eyes out, kick you in the nuts, scream whatever they want, but even if you hold back as much as you can (something you shouldn't have to do when defending yourself) you can still hurt them just by slapping them or grabbing them too hard.
Then they go running and show off their bruises and split lip, and everyone comes to kick your ass, refusing to see your scratches and bruises. At best, you might get a "she probably just did that while defending herself" completely missing the hypocrisy.
"You want me to be the bad guy? Okay. NOW, I'm The Bad Guy."
You can only kick a dog so many times before it starts to bite back.
That quote is from Tangled right?
@@mysterywarriorcat4750 You know it is :)
Good movie, real nasty villain. It's nice to have a Pure Evil villain without some sob story.
@@randomcenturion7264 Right, she was just a great villain
And that is the type of shit the Crooked Man wants. You just walked right into his trap.
kind of made me realise how much the characters in the game expect you to be super lenient with all their shit, and not give anything back to them
To be fair, he did a lot of bad stuff in his past before they crossed over into the "Mundy" world. Still, it doesn't justify how they treat him now when he's just trying to do his job.
@@demonwolf570 And trying to be a better person... or wolf.
@@demonwolf570 In the comic they sign something when they agree to live in fabletown. Basically forgiving all past actions and behaviors. Its why Bluebeard and a few other more dangerous fables are allowed to be there.
My god its just like real life!
@@SushiLord89 that explains why so many dangerous villain fables are allowed to just walk the streets free
Everyone asks: Where is Bigby?
But no one asks: How is Bigby?
Bufkin did
I'll do YOU one better! WHY is Bigby?
Bufkin Did Actually
The question I have why hasn’t Netflix made a show about this already or Disney+ or any app why not if you choose anything why won’t they make this series there’s so much good in this video game I love the characters even the villains it would be perfect for the small scream and they should do a Max Payne series while out at all because that movie didn’t do the series justice
@@paddymaughan9016 if they do, I hope they don't put black or lgbt characters
I heard a quote from somewhere, "You don't know the amount of violence it took for someone to be so gentle," and I feel like that could explain Bigby very well.
ehhhhh not really.... Bigby is best played as a complex character who does what he does to protect fabletown while still being irredeemable but redeemable at the same time... in my playthrough, when Holly was talking to Bigby when she was half dead, i just kept silent especially when she actually talks about bigby since i dont want a clean cut answer from Bigby that he does care or not... you get me?
Man, I still adore his character. (Obviously depending on your choices) He can be so nice and just.. so easily frustrated. Everyone just seems to complain no matter what he does, it's very infuriating. I feel super bad for Bigby, he deserves to be treated better. Obviously he won't let people get away with what they've done so I don't know why they push that on him. He's definitely a comfort character for me now, I'd love to hug him but he'd probably not like that lmao
Such is politics
He'd probably be surprised somebody was willing to blatantly hug the "Big Bad Wolf".
@@rat17 I have a big heart what can I say 😎
@@flflbr0ken the second part is coming this year
@@lorenzoherreros6641 omg YESSS
Honestly, this makes me appreciate Colin even more than I already do because he was the only one of the characters who could see why Bigby works the way he does.
"Everybody wants Bigby to smile and shave and take a shower now and than, hell I'm practically the president of the "Bigby don't be such a dick" club but this is the wrong fucking time to put shackles on him."
What if a Mundy saw Bigby's wolf form in Public?
@@Steve_Minecraft555 They'd probably just think they were hallucinating.
I quote a movie. "Be their hero, Be their savior, Be their angel, Be anything they need you to be or be none of it. You don't owe this world a thing you never did."
Is that from batman vs superman? I believe that's what Maria Kent told Superman
@@henryany4969 sorry for the late reply. Yes it is because I believe it fits Bigby's situation.
@@michaelmurray8134 appreciate the reply friend. Although I respectfully disagree. While now Bigby may be doing good and helping the fables, we cannot dispute that they have a fair reason to not only be afraid but also weary of him. He was the big bad wolf after all. He committed murder. Tried to eat little red riding hood. Was feared across the land. Even though now I am sure he means well, you can't change the past. Although you are right the quote matches since it came after Clark was feared by the people following a bombing. Thanks for reading
@@henryany4969. As the game showed though every one of his accusers started. How are you going to swing a pipe at a man then cry about him beating ya for it?
@@henryany4969 what about the cowards like Crane who were trusted to be mayor? What about the legendary swindlers he has working for him? What about every other cautionary tale living in Fabletown? Is Bigby really the only one they should be afraid of? At least he’s on their side. Grendel was just as bad as he was way back in the day, and he gets to play victim for picking a fight he not only started but meant to end with a crippled or dead bigby. The whole point is that they’re hypocrites, they’re all just as bad but try to pretend otherwise
Fabletown really didn't deserve Bigby as sheriff. Almost everyone was either a selfish asshole, wrapped up in their own sob story, or shockingly naïve. Several characters were a combination of all three. Considering Bigby used to be a giant wolf that ate whoever he came across, he's REMARKABLY even-tempered. People straight-up attempt to kill him, and then whine and play victim when he hits back. It was deeply frustrating to play as him... and also very realistic. Because that's exactly how many people ARE.
Damn right.
Every Fucking interaction had them pushing his buttons, and either bitching when he pushes back or STILL pushing when he chooses to be better.
And that's oddly what makes The Crooked Man a darkly convincing villain. Because the Fables are self-sabotaging Fuck-ups that need either a Crooked Man or Bigby to stop them completely ruining themselves.
I mean, Bigby works for a corrupt workforce back when Crane was mostly in charge and if you pay attention to what Gren said when you confess to Holly about her sister's death, you would pretty much understand as to why he doesn't like you & Snow. What also doesn't help is that Fabletown is a dysfunctional environment where many people are struggling with their new lifestyle.
There is also the fact that many people don't like bigby because of his past of being a villain.
@@Steve_Minecraft555 It's not as sympathetic, because their lifestyle is a choice. They always have the option to go back, they just don't want to. They want to remain in a big city surrounded by humans, instead of a rural community of only fables where they don't need a glamor. They choose their unsustainable and dysfunctional lives.
The very fact that Bigby changed so much from what he used to be is proof that the rest of them could change if they wanted to. Instead, most of them just want to have their cake and eat it, too. They're not willing to make the same sacrifices others made, but they still want that life.
They didn't deserve Bigby, or Snow. Crane was the government they deserved.
@LordRaine if you haven't read the Fables Comics, they were cast out and funny how Bigby has still decided to stay instead of leaving the town that hated him.
"I chose my path, you chose the way of the hero. And they found you amusing, for a while, the people of this city. But there's one thing they love more than a hero: it's to see a hero fail, fall. Die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you. Why bother?"
They'll always hate you Wolf-Man lol
The world hated Jesus Christ back when he was still alive, but he never gave up on us and has still loved us even after his resurrection.
Im glad there’s still a community of people making TWAU content. We dont have to wait too much longer before we get more content!!!
Another year 🥲
@@Floppa-oz1kp unfortunately but the quality comes first🤞
@@BigSmokeEnthusiast Hell yeah
Yesss
Aoulity comes first, hopfuly makes u wonder how the team is bow days like how t(enew teltale will stack to rhe old team
Bigby is one of my favorite characters of all time. He's the only one trying to keep things together with a community of people who, despite living for centuries, refuse to see how hard Bigby is fighting for them; everyone throws it back in his face and he can never win. Even Snow plays victim and "woe is me" every time Bigby does something that isn't completely by the book, even though she has no real idea what he's going through and the reality of the situation.
There are definitely times violence can be avoided like tearing Gren's arm off when he's already down, but they get mad at him if he so much as defends himself FROM THEM. Fabletown says they don't deserve Bigby as their sheriff, and you know what? They're right. They deserve a lot worse than a man who gives his everything like him.
Snow was always a bitch in the comics too.
When Bigby got her pregnant while they were BOTH under a love potion, she treated him as if he'd raped her and when she chose to live with his children in a place he couldn't go, she treated him like a deadbeat dad.
This really made me just ship Bigby and Nerissa more cause she is the only character that shows any sort of vulnerability and trust with Bigby. She understands why he does what he does, how hard he tries, and she values him for it. Every other character treats you like shit no matter what you do, but Nerissa is loyal and good to him.
Snow's whole "you don't think I know what it's like to have my life in danger?" bit really annoyed me. Bigby was explaining to her the stress and constant strain he faces every day, and she immediately throws around her past when they aren't the same thing. She gave Bigby that job, and then when he gets constantly taunted, attacked, shot, and beaten, she acts as though he is being unfair by defending himself? Snow always acted above Bigby and threw around her sad past, playing the victim when they are talking about the present and very different circumstances.
I hated Snow for that line. She completely missed his point.
I feel u but I also understand where Snow is coming from considering she was kept as a sex slave by The Seven Dwarves before she escaped to FableTown so given the fact that Bigby knows this and still says "you don't know what it's like to be pushed into doing things" is pretty messed up
@@uhhhyea6313 Yeah but Bigby is talking about the present day, not the past. You can't change the past but you can choose how to act in the present. Bigby tries so hard to not cause shit and yet even when it's not his fault, he gets blamed. Bigby in the present day is treated like shit in a position that Snow gave to him, and he is venting this to her and trying to get her to help come up with some alternative or even just see his point of view. He is attacking people willy-nilly; he is the one who gets assaulted and then blamed when he defends himself. I get that Snow's trauma influences how she acts, but Bigby is still looking to her for help and/or understanding about his present circumstances and instead of actually helping him she just throws her own past in his face when that does nothing for the present situation.
@@lilchaos9212 Yeah but regardless of what happens in the present, the past still happened. If she was kept as a sex slave, then she was most definitely forced into a lot of corners and had to do shit she didn’t want to do. So she has an idea of what it can be like. Your point is pretty invalid in regards to this.
@@ReeseDavalos there are two sides to this, saying what Bigby said made sense, he wasn't considering her past, but for her it is still a scar and it shows, they both should apologize in truth, him for even if unintentionally reminding her of a bad time, her for not understanding where bigby was coming from and making it about herself, they were both just hurt for different reasons
This reminds me of a western where the people of this town all talked about wanting their town to be safe but when the sheriff does what has to be done to acheive that goal, i.e. killing some violent criminals his actions are condemned. And eventually he says "you all want peace, but none of you want to do what it takes to achieve it!"
And yet characters like Batman are against this ideology.
@Steve_Minecraft555 all I'll say is that both sides of the argument have their merits.
@@dutchvanderbilt9969 Neither are correct, you can only pick one. Either way, I choose Batman's stance because it cause less more damage.
@Steve_Minecraft555 neither are entirely correct.
@@dutchvanderbilt9969 I supposed, but maybe you should look into Batman and most superheroes cases on why they don't kill. Perhaps you might even learn something.
Plus I am pretty sure that heroes like Batman and Spider-Man would have spared the Crooked Man and his cronies.
I'm gonna tell you how I see it. Bigby is working hard to be a better person. But others provoke him to go back to his old ways and he does, to protect himself and others. Everyone is quick to judge him forgetting what they did or not fully understanding what lengths he's going through. He does what he thinks is right. He does his job.
100% agree. Bigby is trying. Narissa seems to be the only one who sees that, thus why she's probably the only person who isn't truely scared of Bigby. When others provoke him into going full-wolf like picking a fight with him, he's forced to put them in their place even though it makes him look like he's going back to his old ways.
I think a beautiful arc they should do with Bigby in Season 2 is the town accepts him for what he does and who he is, and Bigby himself accepts what he's done and strikes a balance between the Big Bad Wolf and Bigby Wolf. Bigby's struggle is he's trying to become a pacifist of sorts, but his job doesn't allow for that.
I once wrote “do you know the difference between good and bad? It’s simply who is there to write the next chapter in history.”
I just love the hypocrisy from Beast considering he transformed first and literally tried to kill Bigby over nothing 😂
Bro is just too overprotective, but that's his character flaw. Regardless, he's not really that bad of a guy.
To be fair, ripping Gren's arm off WAS super unnecessary lmao. He usually sides with your violent shit if you don't.
Sorta kinda. He still whines that you beat the shit out of him even if you don't.
I mean, he did basically try to kill bigby.
@@Lord_Of_Shorvia Sure, but Bigy already dogwalked him and had people yelling to stop by the time you get the arm prompt. The "fetch" line was definitely a "I can be bad too" moment.
@@rat17 I think this argument of morality is pretty redundant.
@@LethalByChoice I don't think I'm arguing about morality, though.
This well made edit makes me even more excited for the wolf among us season 2, the guy trying to change and be better but people always criticize him for everything and the criminals trying to kill him makes it incredibly difficult him to control his rage. My man did nothing wrong
Bigby is the scapegoat to all the fables troubles. Probably was like that from the beginning even when he was the bad guy. In my humble opinion Snow still has no idea how much it hurts just to be bigby. She DOES sit at a desk all day, bigby has his life threatened every episode and the only character that has his back is the Woodsman. My choices always put the woodsman as an ally/friend, literally the only other character that is a “bad guy”, the woodsman tries to do the right thing in the end but still gets treated badly.
Colin also knows what's going on with Bigby, he also stands up for him to snow when she's being unreasonable.
Come to think of it,woody is a good ally.
Woody is most unexpected ally, but when they both talked about putting their past behind, they actually agreed. And make a good team.
The thing about Snow she both sits behind the desk, and then talks about how the system is broken, like she isn't the one who can go to the "boss" and tell him to actually use money, or don't listen to him and help your own community financially instead of spending it on his apartment renovations, rich wine or massages. Yet she still does it even after Crane is out.
As Bigby said "Fuck this!"
@SalMeditz Collin, Nerissa, Beauty, Holly and Snow too (At least Snow still cares for bigby).
@@DonPetexX What if a Mundy saw Bigby going wolf (Especially if it's his Full-on Wolf form).
Snow : where are you going?
Bigby : I'M DONE protecting you people💔
Also bigby: *continues to live in the city that hated him.*
I still don't understand how most of these fables have the balls to mouth off to Bigby when they know what he is.
Bro he killed a dragon and defeated an army.
"He has free reign to murder you in your sleep."
It's lines like this that make me want to burn her tree. She and everyone else gives only the partial story to paint Bigby as the bad guy to cover up their misfortunes and mistakes, when he's the one protecting them.
They have every right to be afraid of him thanks to his history. Not to mention, he was working for a corrupt system over the years.
Even if you bring him in alive to be interrogated and hear them say "Bigby should decide" they still get scared when you make the call to kill him. Some of them don't want you to while some of them say he doesn't deserve to get off that easy. No matter how hard he tries, if he's good cop or bad cop, Bigby just can't seem to please everyone. I wouldn't blame him if he quit his job. Why try to be a hero when all they'll ever see you as is the villain? Everyone has their own answer.
Beast, Greenleaf and Beauty will respect you if CM was spared.
forever the big bad wolf
You can either prove the Crooked Man wrong or unironically prove him correct. Those are the only choices in TWAU.
Bigby is the best and my favorite character. He literally puts up with everyone’s shit all the time. He only attacks when attacked. I can kinda relate to him because sometimes I feel like no matter what I do it’s just never enough for others. I honestly just want to leave this bull shit behind me forever and live my own way without someone always criticizing or judging. But I don’t have enough finance or experience to do that yet. Unlike Bigby who can just leave, I’m still stuck.
But even Bigby can't just leave, can he? Fabletown is like Night City frem Cyberpunk, no matter how hard ya try, ya would always be drowned in there as one of it's residents.
@@souravshirolkar9176 Seems like they can leave, as it was shown in the game that some of the fables are sent to the farm. The problem would be that there really isn't anyplace else to go. Fabletown and the farm are apparently the safest places for Fables.
i dont think Bigby attacks when attacked.... its not going to be a black and white area or 'a bastard with a heart of gold' type of thing with Bigby
@@romansionis2470He's a lycanthrope. He can live as a human as long as he doesn't get pushed physically to turn.
Even then, the guy can just turn into a wolf and run into a forest, live like before. There's noone really enforcing living in a community.
That's the thing, with free speech also comes in hate speech and as a wise man has once said: "Keep your friends close and enemies closer."
Even if the worst choices are shown in the vid, it's still not wrong. You can choose all the good choices and help those people, yet they still see you as the villain and get scared whenever you show up
I know right? I get why Bigby becomes violent and moody all the time.
That was more or less the point of showing those choices I feel
You know Spider-Man is always called a "menace" by J. Jonah Jameson and some other people even when he does good things for the city, but he never stoop down to the Big Bad Wolf's level. Something like this can also be said for other characters like Batman or Optimus Prime.
Played the wolf among us for the first time recently and bigby was such a well written and likeable character
okay. they always seem to lose the context when they were against bigby. sometimes the violence could def be avoided, but sometimes the violence was necessary!!! what the fuck , like the crooked man had a silver bullet aimed at bigby, beast tried to kill bigby, gren tried to kill bigby. he’s been in danger every time. again, violence can be avoided more often than not, but sometimes. sometimes just let bigby defend himself.
People like them like to play the victim. They always focus on the injuries they got but never on the injuries they gave to others. It doesn't matter that Bigby was just defending himself or forced to get violent all that matters is that they got hurt and they feel salty about it.
Yeah its quite ironic they call him an "animal" and a "monster", but half the time he doesn't even start the fights. He asks a question, he's polite, he's only trying to do his job. Bigby tried to reason with Beast and nearly gets seriously hurt for it, he gets shot by Dum and Dee dozens of times and is expected to not get pissed off, Gren threw him around the bar and then cried like a baby when Bigby finally snapped and didn't just take it. If they didn't want to see the wolf that they're apparently all so afraid of, then why go about pissing Bigby off? He's just doing his job and if they didn't pull shit no one would get hurt.
He does overpower Gren and Beast even when you do good choices. Plus disarm the Crooked Man & then arrest him.
@@michaelmurray8134 Just like you guys when losing to an argument.
@@Steve_Minecraft555 yeah no you’re right. i changed my mind. when i played it i chose the nonviolent options i donno who is picking the violent ones
"He may not be perfect, but the safest hands are still his own" I feel like this quote encapsulates Bigby pretty well. The dude has a violent past, and isn't as "structured/disciplined" as Snow, but the man is a fucking man. I'd trust him with a life or death decision any day of the week.
Me too
People change, you can't judge the book by it's cover. People think of bigby he still the bad guy outside of his personality , but in the inside he has kind that people cant see.
People only see what they want to see.
They have every right to be afraid of him thanks to his history. Not to mention, he was working for a corrupt system over the years.
I will gladly give a kidney to make sure we see season 2.
Your efforts are appreciated soldier, Salute
🫡
He is still one of my favorite characters to this day......
Can’t wait for him to come back this year !
Next year now
2024, sadly
This year it has to be
"There's no such thing as a lone wolf. A wolf need it's pack to share knowledge, experience, skills. A wolf needs his pack to survive." - Gideon Smeed.
One of the greatest protagonist of all time
Never start a fight with hate unless you are prepared to lose some thing
This is why I like the game, the feel, the music, and of course Bigby.
Yet it really brings up one of my grievances with these sorts of games. I'm not sure how to best describe it but there sometimes feel like a lack of nuance, like unable to actually respond to individual accusations but forced to react to broad things.
Gren and Beast both more or less started their fights. Ideally it would have been nice if you could object asking for Beauty and Holly to vouch for what really happened depending on how you treated them during the game. Like if you lied for Beauty she actively defends you, if you don't get involved she merely gives the facts of the matter and of course if you tell Beast the truth she just doesn't speak up.
Yeah he has to hear complaining after getting shot dozens of times by the tweedles.
What if a Mundy saw Bigby go full on Wolf-Mode in a public area. Already happened in the first scene with Bloody Mary.
“yOu aLmoST gOuGeD mY eYes oUt” - beast after assaulting bro with a pipe
And people will try to justify Bigby in ripping Gren's arm off, even though he was the one who hit Bigby first & that Gren was no longer a threat already.
A person's path is not set in stone, but the footprints of where they have been cannot be washed way so long as someone is there to remember.
He may not be the hero they want, but he's the hero they get, and they have to deal with it. Bigby is literally like Godzilla, he's teaching a lesson to those who deserve it but after that people will continue see him as a monster.
Godzilla was mostly a villain through out the years tho.
And idk about you, but causing a billion dollars of property damage is not very heroic, especially for the poor construction workers.
@Steve_Minecraft555 I'm talking about the legendary version of Godzilla.
Losing billions of dollars in property damage is far better than losing your entire life or the whole world.
Love the comic Fables. And seriously can't wait for A wolf among us2
You don’t send a saint to catch a sinner, this is something Snow never understood…..
And heroes like Batman don't kill because they could actually end up becoming the villain or the very thing they fear.
This is such a beautiful edit. Thank you for making this.
I'm glad I found the comics after playing this, both so good
"One of the first things you learn about this job, kid. They almost never thank you."
I remembered playing this years ago and not completing it. Imma play it back now that I saw this.
dog i totally feel it .... ya live your training to kill monster and one day errbody you had protected now looks at you like a monster. and they don't have the right to say one goddamn thing but they still do and they know you are still gonna protect them from the monster and you know that you will never have love and you will die alone. and you can't do nothing to change that shit.
The only reason I think snow was hard on him is first of all, she has feelings for him and dosent want him in situations where he is the wolf and gets hurt, and she’s trying not to live again bc she can’t imagine losing some one else like she did Prince Charming
She definitely doesn't have romantic felling for bigby lol but she cares about him
@@johncarver767 maybe, but at some point they get married so there is something tgere
@@johncarver767 The comics would disagree with you on that, but you are sort of right, she's never really shown any kind of romantic interest in Bigby except for that apartment scene in episode 4 but you could argue that wasn't romantic interest more like genuine concern.
@@northwind8807 Honestly Snow View on Bigby is border to Judgmental or Sympathizing. Deep down she knows that he's a good man trying to do what's best for his community but at the same time she can't just let go of who he used to be and can't fully agree with his methods.
@@johncarver767 someone hasnt read the comics
I'm curious what the wolf among us 2 will do with Bigby. I can see him living in self exile from fabletown and working underground in a way. I think it'd be neat.
I guess it depends on which version of events is declared canon. A more violent Bigby might be in exile or at least be resented but a more patient Bigby might be...well in the same situation since the other fables are nowhere near innocent.
@@kieranadamson3224 yeah, bad Bigby can be in exile and good Bigby could have just quit because he was sick of the other fable's shit.
It's hard to say. Telltale is hellbent on keeping quiet about plans (which if you watched Internet Historian's video on No Man's Sky... that's probably for the best).
@@kieranadamson3224 Sadly, it's the 'Attack first. Think almost never' version of Bigby that seems to be canon, as the game The Wolf Among Us is canon to the comics ... then, the game was adapted to comics (with expanded lore regarding the main antagonists and their motivations) ... and, unfortunately, in the comics version of The Wolf Among Us, Bigby practically always goes for the brutal and berserk option - which also makes him miss some important information (such as never seeing the words on the blackboard, since he arrived too late). Heck, he doesn't even go after the girl, when given his final choice, at the very end. He just thinks something like 'Meh. Whatever. It's probably not important' ... but it is extremely important and very negatively affects the girl's fate. If the game is canon to the graphic novels and the graphic novel adaptation of The Wolf Among Us chooses a barbaric version of Bigby with less than stellar investigative skills, then, very unfortunately, it would stand to reason that the canon version of the game's Bigby suffers from the same problems.
Mans said "fuck this shit im out"
Man, this looks like it absolutely nails being a Garou in the World of Darkness. You're trying to save the world, but everyone hates you and you get so fucking mad you end up ripping some monster's head off which makes other people mad because "its not how you do things" even though monsters dont play by the rules.
God, I miss playing W:tA.
In the comic, if memory serves, he only becomes a werewolf/sheriff because he likes how snow white smells
Sometimes what the world needs is not a hero. But the monster.
We need monster to fight other monster .
And Anti-Heroes like The Punisher tells others to never copy his style of "heroism". Especially how Frank can sometimes be hypocritical with his stance as an anti-hero.
I remember when the crooked man said his little speech. Everyone got mad at me. Like wtf? I finally told each of them off. I was so mad at everyone. Then they suddenly remembered who the real bad guy was and he was threw down the well.
Oh I miss this game so much 11 years of waiting for the second game I can’t wait to stream it tho
a cops day to day ,in a video game nut shell.
Even when you try appeasing them they always got shit to say . Can’t wait for the sequel so I can be NO BS “The Dawg” Bigby
They keep sayin they aint done shit ..but all of them have hit him before and they still complain bcuz they cant handle the consequences
thats dope
He just try to sorry for everything he did in the past, but the thing he gets is angry and fear from everyone, when i saw Snow watched him kill or let Dee brother alive every decision you choice, you just see the scared face from Snow 😢😢😢.
Love from a Sota and Vaush fan!
I loved this game. I need to go back and play it.
Me too
I love how your account names is Bigby’s father. Hope we see or know of him in S2
Well, people will hate you for doing the right thing if it envolves confrontation.
You either die a hero or live till you see yourself become the villain bigb did both
Except Bigby never died.
Seeing bibgby being so hard jugdjed by everyone, and always having his past rising up again and again, making him and the player feel blame, mekes me appreciate the ending where the bastard behind everything gets a trial, giving you the chance to show them that, when odds are against you, critics about your actions rain, even so you have the capacity to be better and explain with proff that the man i guilty, and taking him out of his power sistem alive is the best victory for someone like bigby, who left his wolf behind to be a better person
Wow i never saw that ending, i didn’t know you can turn your back on Fabletown, how are they going to address that in a sequel if my ending was the opposite or somewhere in-between?
I'm sure they'll do the same thing they did for TWD season 2 where your save file for season 1 is imported into season 2 so all your choices transfer to the new game.
Story wise you may just be given a offer you can't refuse to get you into the plot, of course with more unique interactions with the cast
@@LethalByChoice yes, the coherency maintained in the story genuinely feels like care has been put in the game, also I fucking love TWD.
Wolf Amongus deserved a sequel i guess we will never get to see it ^^"
I have never even heard of this show but this was awesome
It's not a show, it's an adventure series from telltale games based on a comic book series
bigby's voice actor sounds like a much older, grizzled Bobby hill
It's hard being the Good Guy when everyone still uses you as their Bad Guy
You can either prove the Crooked Man wrong or unironically prove him correct.
And what do you mean by "everyone"?.. Beauty trust you & has treated you with human decency. Holly & TJ didn't have that much of an issue with Bigby & holly is more angry at snow. Lawrence, Jack & Johan were not even angry at Bigby for anything. Collin was a real bro and Woody wanted to bury the hatchet with Bigby and not fight anymore.
You should know that jesus christ have never gave up on humanity who hated him and saw him as a tyrannical king back when he was still alive, but even after his resurrection: He still cared for us.
"Fabletown will remember that"
Beautiful edit
a man trying to change his past doing more for everyone than ANYONE else. no matter what they say. Because the hard truth is, without the big bad wolf there to complain and blame? They'd tear themselves apart. The Bigby i chose spared him. When you do that they get mad. You kill him? they get pissed still. Bigby is a hero. I hope the second game has fable town put respect on his name
edit: no matter how rough new york is, no fable will ever understand his place. not even snow
That's just how free speech works and people need to decide for themselves, even when you disagree with them. Like everybody in the Crooked Man meeting were already disagreeing with one another.
Collin understands how bigby feels.
Well, i was bigby on the game once and we saved fabletown by killing the bad guys, we did our best to help the fables and even if they treat us as a irredeemable bad guy we don't care, we did our job and we love faith disguised as nerissa
WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER WOLF AMONG US GAME
Bigby and Snows relationship, and the way he feels over her in the comics is one of my favourite romances in all fiction fr
Eh, for me I hate it sometimes because Snow can get pretty toxic.
Especially the lil touches, like finding out just how hard he tries to respect her privacy and not think about her 24/7, by smoking constantly cause otherwise he can smell her scent from literally anywhere in the city. When you hear that, it makes you realise most of the time when he starts smoking, it's cause he's thinking about her.
@@LethalByChoice I mean yeah that's kinda the beauty of it, she can absolutely be a bitch sometimes, and still the creature who could wipe her out without even blinking stays patient and loyal just because of love, and she changes because of that too
@@Trojianmaru exactly what I'm talking about yeah
@@LethalByChoice Character having flaws = toxic. If Snow was a full on "perfect girl", then you'd call her a Mary Sue and still be complaining.
Cant wait for the next installment.
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I love bigby!!!
Even if the plot get's kinda weird I would advice you to read Fables the series that this game is baset on. "this game is something of a prequal to the comics".
You are perfectly correct, but I would also advise to read the graphic novel adaptation of The Wolf Among Us, as it vastly expands the lore of the main antagonists and their motivations.
who else is excited for the wolf among us 2 later this year
It sucks we will never get a conclusion to the gold that was season one.
Can't wait for the 2nd one
And plus beauty never cheated on beast really never this is just disgusting what they have done to bigby and they just ask where is bigby but no one ask how is bigby i could swear they just should apologise to bigby
Bufkin asked how Bigby was & Snow tells bigby to be careful when being on the case.
Plus Beast maybe an emotional man, but he is going through a lot. Cut him some slack will you.
It's wierd cause i never did any of this, i didn't rip gren's arm, i was kind and even spared the villian in the end almost all of them praise me for my job and i genually feel great to be the sheriff. It all depend on your choices, at least it was like that for me and i wouldn't chance anything.
Legendary.
He’s literally me
I feel bad about the Wolf 😢
*some shmo attacks the Big Bad Wolf*
*some shmo gets his ass handed to them*
*Pikachu is surprized*
Knowing his history, I can see why people are afraid of him and mfs blame Gren for assaulting Bigby, despite they were the ones who hit Gren first.
Bigby The villain of a poorly told story
Sounds like what Spider-Man goes through with people like J. Jonah Jameson.
I love how all of them wanna act like they so terrible and that he’s a terrible fucking person cuz he ate two talking pigs and yeah the offing red’s grandma and wearing her clothes to wait for her to visit to eat her too is definitely nutts😂😂😂😂 don’t get me wrong but that’s basically all he did. But anyway they act so afraid and then try to beat his ass or kill him every chance they get just because he’s trying to do his job as the local sheriff. That what I’ll never get.
That's good
Such assh*les. They attack him and then wonder why he defends himself and also wonder why they can’t win against him, saying ‘I didn’t even do anything’. 💀
They live in dysfunctional town and obviously shit like this is going to happen.
This is really infuriating when you play Bigby as someone who does things by the book: respecting everyone's rights but also enforcing the rules. The disrespect is unjustified and it makes you want for Bigby to just quit and leave them to their own devices.
You just know that corruption and crimes would just skyrocket without him, it still exists with him around but they have to stay low, otherwise Bigby would go after them.
Snow, too, feels very self-righteous. She tries to do good and genuinely wants to help people, but she's not the one who gets her hands dirty, Bigby does.
It's hard to achieve what you want when free speech isn't perfect.
Mind if I do this ?
Sure just don't make it like mine, think of a different way to present it.
@@northwind8807 Ok
Even if you make most of the nice/good choices, Bigby will still be seen as evil to some extent. Toad will still see you as an asshole, even if bigby isn't wrong he still is seen as the bad guy. The towns views change only slightly at the end, to more neutral, the only ones who truly don't see bigby as a person and not someone who is evil or just an asshole are Nerissa, Faith, Colin (to some extent), flycatcher and thats it. I don't count snow cause she was still wasn't happy with bigby turning into a werewolf (when he didn't have a choice). Even accounting that this ending is where he kills crooked man before hand, it still shows how somehow he is evil, even though throwing someone down the well isn't as bad as killing (even though the outcome is the same) and bigby never started a fight without threats or provocation.
Even after you kill Dum, Snow still choose to save Bigby and not let him die. Maybe you should cut her some slack and also what if a Mundy saw Bigby go werewolf in a public area?
They have every right to be afraid of him thanks to his history. Not to mention, he was working for a corrupt system over the years.
Season 2 needed