Agreed same here, I'll just either keep my 2011 F150 with the 5.0L Coyote V8 alive or I'll just buy a used pre-owned 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8.
Right! With these modern transmissions, we can do better with a 3.55 or 3.42 rear gear! I had a vehicle with a 3.73 rear gear years ago for towing. My motor was at too high of RPM going uphill.
Love it -- 21 MPG in mixed driving with a 5 liter V8 full-sized pickup. I expect to buy a truck by next winter, and if I go full-sized it will be an F-150 with the 5.0.
Bro... I love my '17 XLT 5.0. I get an average of 20/22 mpg... depending on if I'm hauling my tools or my small work trailer. Bought the truck new from the dealership... 102k and ZERO issues. Plus, that 5.0 is a blast. Sounds soooo good. 👍🏾
My 5.0 F150 says 19 mpg average on the dash since I bought it. That’s 75-80% city driving. I can easily get over 23 on a long highway run. Love my truck. Thinking of getting a sticker made up that says “No Turbos Needed”. The amount of power this truck has and space with the full crew cab and a 6.5 foot bed and still gets better mileage than the frontier I was also considering is incredible. Well worth the extra 10k on the price. But when Nissan wanted 6.5% interest on the loan and ford only wanted 1.9 the total price actually came out almost equal. It was a no brainer for us. More truck for less. No wonder North America is full of full size trucks.
@@shettlock They already went after diesels with the lies and crippling emissions systems. Heavy Duty gas trucks are next and they wills tart with some kind of carbon tax. They were given and inch and they already took ten miles. Never assume that they aren't already preparing to go further.
@Ballen1182 Well. I've got to buy a truck because I don't have one and I can only afford one vehicle so I need one that can do everything. After that, run it until the wheels fall off.
@@rock-uu7qrDisagree. Hot engine required by emission standards, high freeway speed, full stop due to traffic, constant low flow oil pressure pump, car comes to a stop then the engine shuts down and all the new 0-20 oil drains back into the pan, upon start up again and back to freeway speed and the damage is done to lifters, cylinders, valve train. Rinse and repeat and the end is near.
@@Jbennyho cold engine starts are where most of the wear comes from. A hot start isn't even remotely as bad, and the 5.0 calls for 5w30 anyway. Also, upon start up and acceleration, the oil pump runs high pressure for a couple seconds and then settles back down. Gets the hot oil circulating again.
I own a 2020 F-150 4WD (no cylinder deactivation). My real world experience with the 5.0L Coyote is that it will average about 21 mpg at 55 mph, 18-19 mpg at 65 mph, and 16.5-17.5 at 75 mph. A friend has an identical pickup with the 3.5 Ecoboost. He gets about 1 mpg better than I do on average, but his 3.5 is on its second replacement turbo at 60K miles. My 5.0 has been trouble free for 50K. There is only one (STUPID!) reason for the rush to turbocharged smaller displacement engines in pickups: E-P-A. Just another way that unelected government regulators screw over consumers with mandates that consumers are forced to pay for in higher vehicle acquisitions costs, lower reliability, and increased maintenance costs.
3.5 Gen 1, 2011F150 Factory Turbos still 268K, 4x4, CC, MPG 15-17, Mud Tires and live in the Hills. Towing 8-9 MPG. It's been so great, best truck. Living in the hills not sure the gas would be my best option but flat landers I think would have to consider the v8.
I had a F150 w/ 3.5 eco that I just got rid of. I bought it used with 114k in January. In the shop 11 times in 4 months. I got rid of it and got a 2024 Chevy Silverado 1500. All done with ford but maybe it would have been different with a brand new truck with a V8. I swore that the dealer was sabotaging the truck so I would bring it in again. Could not believe how bad it was.
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel I think they're failing often and making noise because they're designed to rev to the moon for peak power, which is not the best for a pickup truck. I had a 3.7 f150 and the motor was tired by 130k miles, it was always reving to the moon.
mine is just an stx but still the best smoothest fastest thing ive ever owned. so much power so smooth and such a joy to drive. plus that antimatter blue is just stunning in the sun
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel My 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it has 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
I’m a Toyota guy and you’re spot on. More and more engines failing everyday. I also don’t think Toyota’s diagnosis is accurate. Machining debris will cause an engine to fail quite quickly. Not 20-40k miles down the road.
All in the name of fuel economy - which admittedly is waay better than its previous 5.7 v8. But is it worth all the trouble when most of their other vehicles in their lineup are fuel efficient?
@@cpftank09 Thank you so much for saying that! I completely agree especially since the alleged machining debris left over in the engines happened in both the American and Japanese assembly plants.
My 5.6L Nissan Titan easily got 18-19 mpg. My 2022 Tundra non hybrid twin turbo never got better than 16.1. Sold my Tundra BEFORE the latest engine B.S.!
Just picked up a 24 Titan (March). Haven’t done a hand calculated fuel economy loop but the digital readout showed 21 on a 1k drive home after I bought it. Figured I’ll hand calculate when I get a moment. Wanted the Tundra, glad I didn’t do it now.
@@killerb5726 My 2017 Platinum Reserve was AWESOME. I wish I had kept it. Not the first time I have regretted trading into a new something. My latest upgrade is a new to me, 2022 Tesla Model S! The best and nicest car I have ever had, or gotten a ride in. Highly recommend!!
If you understood how the process works, it is far more accurate to say "bean counters ruin all things". Most of the things you folks blame on Engineers was not their decisions.
I am on my 2nd F150 with the 3.5L TT. Bought a new one in 2019 and just traded it in recently on a new 2023. 3.31 gear ratio. I drive both highway and city to and from work each day. I'm rarely over 12L/100kms. The only reason I'd want the 5.0L is I miss the rumble of the V8. Love the channel.
Been watching you recently and decided to subscribe; because you’re straight up; if you’re mistaken you own it! And I appreciate that. I’m familiar with the F150 V8 but when I was given a first F150 3.5 Ecoboost had to tow an Airstream out of the Keys due to a Hurricane warning to the central FLA area, which has a few tiny hills lol. I knew this was a game changer in towing in the first few over bridge passes. Felt as if I was in our Duramax diesel; relating to the turbo making it for smoother towing. My V8 would need to drop gears to capture higher RPM’s for torque and MPG’s would drop. But the Turbo on the other hand kicks in and simply smooths out that transition while providing better MPG’s. I have been in many trucks due to my gig. But turbos are a game changer more so when towing. Listen we love diesels but if it weren’t for the boost they would be turtles. The boost in a diesel makes all the difference in the experience. Same has it, towing with a gas turbo.
Nice to see higher figures in flat areas, driving in a hilly city is way worse; my 2.7 gets 17mpg on a good day, highway is close to 22mpg. V8 doesn't seem to be far off at 1mpg in this video, def worth it for the sound and smooth powerband.
I have a 2023 F-150 Tremor with the 5.0 Coyote V8, and I am averaging 18.8 mpg combined. The Tremor is rated 2 to 3 mpg less than other trims, so I'm pretty happy with my fuel economy.
Weight and aerodynamics of the truck itself is what affects mpg in a traditional shaped pick-up truck the most. It's always been that way. Gearing too but all these trucks compared in this video were as close to the same as possible. This test shows me that since the 2.7 V6 is standard on the F150 it's a great choice for good all-around mpg but if your willing and able to spend the money for the V8 and get that great V8 sound then you won't get hurt all that bad with mpg as long as you drive it reasonably most of the time.
You might like this. I have a 2002 Silverado 2500 HD 8.1. Has 280k on it, had it since brand new with 13 miles on the clock. When the outside air temps are above 95F, I get about 10% better mpg on long road trip runs. No performance decrease, same effect when towing or not. It's the decrease in air density allowing the truck to move through the air better, while also begin able to run with less fuel.
@@motofunk1interesting. I wouldn't think this difference would be noticeable but your experience says otherwise. Are you sure you're not drafting 2 ft off the back of semi-trucks more in the summer than winter? 😅
I feel When people think of V8 Mpg they think of the old school v8s that were getting 8-14 mpg. These newer v8s are much more economical. I drove my 6.2 v8 to Virginia this passed week and I got 23 the whole way.
My 2016 v 8, gets 10.5 l / 100 highway. With only 6 gears! Full size truck fits my family and gear for camping, pulling a trailer, back country driving, etc…. Solid performer all around. Although I welcome new tech improvements in truck world, I expect them to be robustly designed and tested before consumer rollout. I would be reluctant to get another full size truck without a normally aspirated v 8. Great video - thanks!
Drove over 32,000km across Canada and some of the northern US last summer in our 2022 F150 King Ranch with the Coyote V8- average mileage for the entire trip, which included city, highway, hills, valleys and everything in between worked out to be 12.1l/100km or about 19MPG. Pair that with the reliability of this engine and I’m more than thrilled.
@@robertlane4432 Thanks for the note- my math on converting the L/100km was incorrect- I appreciate the heads up- I adjusted this in the comments. As a Canadian, we only deal in L/100, not MPG- apologies for the oversight.
@@mikespies786 Love it. 👍 I have 160k on my 2009. Change oil and filter every 6 months or 4k miles. Check my oil today. That stick is clean as new and so is the oil. New air filter every 6 months.
My 2014 FX4 Supercrew 5.0L steel body averages 18.0 mpg. That's average since January when I last reset the trip A, B, and Fuel gauges. I usually get between 17.5-17.8 mpg per year average. The highest I had for a month was 19.3 on the screen which came out to 18.8 mpg. These engines can be pretty efficient when you use cruise. I drive 60 miles+ daily to and from work. A lot of it is 55 mph country road, but the city where my job is has a ridiculous traffic light system where you stop at every intersection. The only way to get through them all is run one red light, then it's non-stop through town.
Awesome brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I have a 2018 with the 2.7L, and hardly ever get less than 20 mpg. I always calculate my mileage and typically do about 22 in the summer and maybe 20.5 in the winter. Our gas is E10, so you lose about 6% as a result and my mixed driving is tilted toward highway. I'm also a senior and not so much in a hurry, so drive with a lighter foot. I also did pretty well (around 18) towing a Toyota Corolla. It's very responsive once the turbos kick in and I love the mileage. I chose the smaller engine specifically for fuel economy and the difference between that and the V8 was several mpg, if I recall. If it's only around 1mpg, then that changes the equation. Thanks again for the information.
I get over 24 MPG on the freeway with my V8 2024 F-150. I keep it at 70 MPH and in regular drive mode. If I don't drive it crazy in the city, I'm getting about 20MPG. Even if I beat on it, I can get 15 MPG. Not bad for only 4000 mile on it so far. The fuel MPG on the dash reads 1/2 MPG high. I can live with that. I plan on keeping this truck for a long time and I won't have Eco-boost problems when I get past the 150,000 mark.
Mine on my 250 is always off reads higher than hand calculated seems like it only calculates driven fuel and being a diesel I idle alot for warm up and if I am gonna get back in it and drive shortly after I get out ill leave it running
I don't know about towing, however I have no problem getting 24 mpg highway in my 2012 F150 super crew platinum with the 5 liter and 6 speed automatic transmission. This is from the actual math at the pump. Anything over 65 mph will definitely lower this number. 158,000 miles on the clock.
Put a small slide in a pop-up camper in these trucks and the gm 5.3. What i observed was the Chevy 5.3, and the Ford 5.0 had the best loaded mpgs with about 1950 pounds of total load, including passengers and a frontal wind load that campers create between cabover and truck roof. Chevy 5.3 and Ford 5.0 got about 13 to 13.5 at 68 to 70 mpgs. Ecoboost 3.5 got about 11 mpgs. I didn't try it with the 2.7 or the gm 3.0 diesel or the 5.7 hemi. Nor did i try it with powerboost given its lower patload rating.
I like the 5.0 but did not care for hard shifting in a 21 xlt compared to the 3.5 in a 22 xlt. Maybe i had a unique experience. Moreover the lower torque curve of the 3.5 is enjoyable.
IMO, the 5.6 in the Nissan Titan is one of the best engines out there. They had some issues with the number 7 cylinder but worked them out. As a local truck driver I notice which trucks I see most on the road ( as well as the ones I see on the side of the road) and I see more older Nissans and Fords everywhere I go. Also I’ve noticed many Toyota cars broken down lately, not sure why.
Thanks for answering my question about the turbo engine and idling. I will say this no matter what the Gm 5.3 v8 can experience in problems there are Chevy Tahoe police units that sit and idle for long periods so even though turbos seem to be the wave of the future I will take my 5.3 v8 or the coyote 5.0 v8 as long as they keep making them. Thanks again.
Ford also uses a entirely different oil pump on the gen4 Coyote engine that is driven by a belt. Not sure how long these belts will hold up since it is ran in an oil environment.
I don't like the belt either. However, the rash of failed belts on other Ford engines is related to tensioner failures and excessive oil temperature. The 5.0 does not have these problems, and from what I understand also has a quality belt. There is some chance the aftermarket will come up with an 'easy to install' replacement with something that works like a master link. These do exist for industrial applications.
Still running my 13 5.0. Live in a small town as a contractor and can get by with $60 a week at $1.80 per litre. Will always have a v8. Very dependable in the long run.
Amen Brother amem!!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
Great video, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
It’s not all about fuel mileage that people want the V8. It’s about durability. Driven responsibly, maintained by the book standards and kept clean, the 5.0 liter will be running long after the 6 cylinders have been crushed and recycled.
I always enjoy your videos and thank you for sharing them with us. On a side note, the V8's are here to stay at least in the US, 2025 is just around the corner.
I have a 2024 F150 xlt supercrew 5.0 with 3.73 and have been driving it from West Virginia to the eastern shore of Maryland and average 21mpg normally with cruise set around 80mph most of the way. I'm happy with it.
I know the 5.0 liter V8 sounds great but I have owned two 3.5 liter Eco Boosts. Test drive the same truck with the Eco Boost and the V8. I did both times and chose the Eco Boost.
I'll take a V8 any day over a twin turbo v6 or a 4. Years ago a 5.0L v8 engine would have 140 hp, today 400 hp wow!!! NB looks great with no snow. It was 90+ f in NC today. Using the a/c would lower mpg, I bet.
Amen Brother, gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
@@AlexSilis If your pulling a heavier trailer often i would get the 3.5 it pulls better. My trailers are light dirtbike rzrs etc. so i went with a coyote this time, the 3.5 is so smooth it's kind of boring the V8 rumble and coarseness is fun to drive...
So I rented a 2024 Powerboost 4x4 for the week for a long road trip to Arizona from Louisiana. Been maintaining 22 to 22.5 mpg at speeds between 75-79 mph. I’m actually quite surprised by those numbers. Wish I can compare a 5.0L at those speeds. About to start the second half the trip and will be driving into the wind of northern Texas and New Mexico, and then the high desert of Arizona, let’s see how the truck performs.
@@Jay-me7gw that’s pretty much how my 2012 performs. It costed me over $700 to rent the truck, but it wasn’t about saving fuel-I just didn’t wanna take the risk, driving a 12 year old truck across the hot desert with 2 elderly in-laws.
@@alexhernandez5061 the return trip, the gas mileage went down a little. West Texas on the I-10, speed limit was 80 mph, so I was steadily cruising around 80-82. The mpg stayed above 20 the whole time.
Love my 21 F-150. I have a 5.0 and I don’t regret it. I am a little jealous of the eco boosts mpg but im glad I don’t have to worry about turbo chargers
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I have a 2015 F-150 super crew cab 4X4 with 5 Liter Coyote engine. Where I am here in Montana it's 130 miles to the nearest Walmart 🙂 I get an average of 19mpg. Going against a wind.....16mpg.
I just installed a Whipple on my 2024 F-150 Lariat 5.0 and will never go back to the 3.5 turbo. The whipple tune removes cylinder deactivation and auto stop and start. The coyote is simply the best engine when you add forced induction. Plus you still have a 36k warranty but I don’t expect any issues since I’ll be using it as my daily and not driving it around like a race car. The Borla S type exhaust I installed sounds fire 🔥
My 2015 F-150 Lariat FX4 5.0L 6 speed with 3.55 axle gets 23.3 mpg @ highway speed (around 70 mph). It also has Ford Performance sport cat back exhaust (made by Borla for ford) and a K&N replacement air filter element. City driving does drop to about 18 mpg depending on how it’s driven with the 3.55 gear ratio.
Right now the 5.0 is the only engine I would get in a truck. I love my 5.3 in my 2012 Silverado but since GM brought out the gen 3 5.3 it has several issues and they didn’t help the mileage or power !
I don't know how much difference that 3:31 makes overall with this engine. I've gotten around 20 mpg combined at 5k+ elevation for thousands of miles in my 3:73 Tremor, and I've never put it in Eco mode (I have put it in Sport mode though and done some off-road). I've noticed it gets much thirstier in wind at highway/interstate speeds. The truck says it is at 20.8 mpg over the last 3k miles, but my pump calculations trend closer to 19.6 to 20.2 mpg. My 2013 Rock Warrior had more torque with the 4:25 (I think) diff (and I loved that truck), but the mpg was crap, and the tank was small. So far, I am still happy with the Coyote.
@@sqd37l I agree, but I'm an old that hasn't trusted turbos for a personal vehicle yet. The old Tundra 5.7 I had was sold to the company because we needed work trucks, and it has been the best (and by far the oldest) 1/2-ton vehicle in the local fleet for a year and a half (other than mpg (at 110K plus miles)). I have no idea what Toyota has been thinking the last few years. No recovery hooks?...SMH. Peace, Love!!
Govt. BS mandates. I don't want a turbo v6. I'm not in mountains for everyday, and will be there maybe, maybe, once a year. I also don't want the stop start crap. Heavy traffic, making a left turn, that delay is a far greater chance of getting T-boned.
@@jasonbrushett2005problem is we have to do it every time we start the engine. If you wanna cut it permanentely you need to buy a program or something...if only they made it from factory
The auto stop/start system is a joke. Wait until we start getting more traffic jams causing more pollution due to starters failing! EPA idiots didn’t think about that!
@@ralphe14 One would think you are sending power or a ground through your button every time you hit the button to disable. You would think you could just hard wire it with whichever it takes and you would be done with it.
In the 2018 Detroit Auto Show, Ford premiered a Crew Cab F-150 with the 2.7 Liter opposed piston Achates engine with a combined EPA fuel economy of 37 MPG. It was a three cylinder with two cranks and six pistons and no heads or valve train with 270 horsepower and about 480 foot pounds torque. Some said it got about 45 MPG highway. Cummins was building a government engine called the ACE, Advance Combat Engine, making 1000 horses. It’s a flat four-eight piston and 14.3 liter. Either engine can be built as gas, diesel or propane.Six or seven years later and we get the same old run around.
My wife's performance tuned '08 Mustang GT with the 3v 4.6L gets 24mpg. Crazy efficient for a 3700lb brick going down the road. I'm not the biggest fan of Fords due to their pencil pushing sometimes tanking vehicle reliability but sometimes they do get things right.
Those are dream conditions tho. Down here in the Southeastern US you'd have a red light every intersection, even the suburban areas where it's a 55mph zone you're going to have to stop at every light. And in the summer months the air conditioning will be on full blast. Those highways up there are like when we had covid lockdowns here . They are deserted in comparison. Down here the highways are stop and go or stop and crawl . Frequent idling. Frequent acceleration. Frequent A/C on full blast.
With 3hp in the old dodge.. lol.. I agree though. My 85 f150 5.8 351ho (4 barrel carb) avg'd excellent hand calculated miles compared to a stock ford 4.6 efi in 2012ish.. probably 16 mpg out of the 351w with a c6 auto vs 10mpg with the 4.6 and a 4r70 od trans. The thing is, the newest trucks are getting around the same economy with double the power, and a miniscule amount of emissions.
I knew a guy who had an F150 eco boost. He did all of his own oil changes. Turbo went out. He contacted Ford who said oil changes weren't documented ( aka Ford dealership did not do them). Last I knew he was fighting with Ford. Remember that if you do your own or if you use a handy lube type place, your oil changes/maintenance aren't within a Ford, Toyota or whomever network. I know some will disagree but I have all my oil changes/maintenance done at a dealer. Yes it's $$ but I hope if theres an issue and it's their fault, "I might" have a little leverage.
With my Coyote I am getting up to 23 plus mpg on the highway with a bed cover. The best Vehicle I have ever owned and at 70 yo, that’s a lot of sedans,suvs and pickups.
I have had both. Its smoke and mirrors with the Ecoboost. Any load at all, wind, hills, and its milage drops substantially. When I hooked up a light 5x11' trailer unloaded milage on the ECOboost went to 11 mpg weather or not if it had a load on the trailer or not. I will stay with the 5.0 all day long in a truck for someone who actually uses it as a truck.
I have an f150 with the 5.0l v8 bought in 2019, currently has 70K miles on it. If I drive it around 50 mph it will get 23-24 mpg. At 70 mph it drops to 21 mpg. So speed and terrain has a huge impact on mileage. In city driving it gets around 17 mpg. I have also noticed if I have the injectors cleaned mpg improves dramatically.
@@TheGettyAdventures I have been adding the bottles of injector cleaner to the gas tank every 15-20k. Recently while having an oil change at about 72K miles they offered an injector cleaning for a fee. They opened a line and forced some kind of miracle fluid in. The difference was astonishing eliminated what I thought was low octane ping and gained 3-4 mpg.
The V8 isn’t going anywhere. Doesn’t matter what anyone says. If one prefers a V8 over the less reliable 6, that’s their choice. Going electric and dropping the V8 is why so many companies are losing money.
If you drive 12,000 miles a year and unleaded is $3.33 per gal, the extra cost is about $123/year in fuel vs the 3.5 eco boost. Not really much of a difference to me, the choice would come down to performance and reliability!
I'm very happy with my '23 F-150 Coyote. Regular cab. 6.5' box. 4x2 with electric locker. Refrigerator white. Have had it a year. ~6 k miles so far. Mileage is better than my old SWB '01 Silverado with V-6 an 5 spd.. Wasn't looking at Ford to begin with. Would have bought another GM but no V-8 in work truck. Would have bought a Taco but no SWB versions on lots dealers refused to order one.
Damn that thing is probably pretty quick with the 5L in there. But in general I have noticed over the past few years Ford has way more options for their f150's. multiple engines, multiple gearing set ups which can all come with LSD, locking diffs or open. where the competition is seemingly cutting down alot of options. Ram for example in 2025 will offer a single engine per trim level.
@@TheGettyAdventures They are never quick enough 🙂 Yes, I like Ford's mechanical options. It would be nice if they offered individual comfort options rather than packages. I'm on the lookout for some power seats. Would have rather purchased them with the truck.
For a given mass, X amount of energy is needed to move that mass. The secret to fuel economy is to reduce the mass, then improve aerodynamics and improve thermal efficiency using innovative technologies. For example, my 2018 Mitsubishi Triton 2.4 diesel, which is comparable in size to a Toyota Tacoma, manages to achieve a significantly better fuel economy, primarily because it has a diesel engine. The power rating is 182 hp and 320 lb/ft, its fuel consumption rating is 6.5 l/100 km, or 36 mpg per US gallon. This is achieved using variable valve control (MIVEC) an offset crankshaft, aluminium engine block, variable geometry turbo, and an aerodynamic front end. Driven with a light foot, it's possible to achieve 49 mpg highway, observing the national speed limit of 90 kph, 56 mph. here in Thailand.
I have a 2021 F150 lifted with 36 inch tall tires and I am still averaging 18 and a half miles per gallon. Broadcast tons of acceleration what I want it and pulls a trailer
I get over 1200km on a tank (9.1L/100) Km)in my 21 5.0 with 3.31 when I drive for mileage (not using cruise and babying it)). If I drive with cruise, or just don’t care, it gets 10.7 - pretty much the same as in this test.
As usual, excellent reviews! Truly appreciate the information from a mechanics point of view that you present in your reviews. For that reason, I would like to know your opinion on adding a hybrid powertrain on a HD 7.3 (as an example) to try to replicate the low end torque of a diesel and perhaps improve mpg. I have considered it on diesels but all evidence seems to point against it given the already crammed engine and overall payload problem it would present with the added weight. I think the 7.3 could accommodate a larger hybrid battery making its weight similar to a diesel truck with 2-300 more horsepower. I would think, 700 tq with, 550 or more hp is not a stretch. What are your thoughts?
Hi Alex. Incredible performance that 5.0 l "Coyote" Meanwhile the electronic and programs in software knows and understanding the mechanical in "coyote". We can enjoy V8 more time! Big HUG Thank's
I have a '21 with a 5.0. I'd like to tune out the cylinder deactivation for driveability, but other than that it's fine. I would take it over any other half ton v8 on the market by a long shot. All I'll say is don't make the mistake I did, get the lowest rear end you can get with the 5.0. And by the way, the 5.0 will get better economy with a load than the 3.5
Just purchased new to me 2022 fx4 with the 5.0 Hope I am able to get that fuel economy out of it Did upsize tire a little with an all terrain (duratrac)
Love my V8 motors! Turbos will eventually fail. I'll take a 5.7, 6.2 or 6.4 liter motor over any turbo 4 or turbo V6 motor. The B58 straight 6 turbo motor made by BMW is the only other motor that I like. It's also used in the new Supra.
Do you think the advantage the 2.7 eco boost has will be offset if bigger tires and a lift are put on the truck because it will react more sensitively than the 5.0? So will there be a point where the 5.0 and 2.7 meet, or the 5.0 even gets better mpg because it’s less sensitive?
If they get rid of this coyote engine then I won't be a customer anymore.
Agreed same here, I'll just either keep my 2011 F150 with the 5.0L Coyote V8 alive or I'll just buy a used pre-owned 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8.
You’re too late. Govt. wins.
Right! With these modern transmissions, we can do better with a 3.55 or 3.42 rear gear! I had a vehicle with a 3.73 rear gear years ago for towing. My motor was at too high of RPM going uphill.
@@bradhodgkinson7996 it’s our government forcing them to get higher mpg. They don’t want us having good trucks!
Agree all ive had 4 f150s all v8 never had an issue if they get rid of the v8 i will also leave ford
Love it -- 21 MPG in mixed driving with a 5 liter V8 full-sized pickup. I expect to buy a truck by next winter, and if I go full-sized it will be an F-150 with the 5.0.
With that is available atm those 5L’s are a great option
Bro... I love my '17 XLT 5.0. I get an average of 20/22 mpg... depending on if I'm hauling my tools or my small work trailer. Bought the truck new from the dealership... 102k and ZERO issues. Plus, that 5.0 is a blast. Sounds soooo good.
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@@jerryjeromehawkins1712all city ?
I got my 5.0 in 22 with big tires and crew with 6.5 bed and can say the highest it was showing was 12.8/100 L .Constantly between 11.8 to 12.5
I wouldn't get a f 150 unless its the 5.0.
My 5.0 F150 says 19 mpg average on the dash since I bought it. That’s 75-80% city driving. I can easily get over 23 on a long highway run. Love my truck. Thinking of getting a sticker made up that says “No Turbos Needed”. The amount of power this truck has and space with the full crew cab and a 6.5 foot bed and still gets better mileage than the frontier I was also considering is incredible. Well worth the extra 10k on the price. But when Nissan wanted 6.5% interest on the loan and ford only wanted 1.9 the total price actually came out almost equal. It was a no brainer for us. More truck for less. No wonder North America is full of full size trucks.
Get’ em while you can, it’s the government trying to get rid of v8’s
My good friend just bought a 5L and said the same thing. only a matter of time.
Heavy duty gas trucks remain unregulated though, don’t they? That’s why they don’t have mpg ratings or that MDS shit
@@shettlock They already went after diesels with the lies and crippling emissions systems. Heavy Duty gas trucks are next and they wills tart with some kind of carbon tax. They were given and inch and they already took ten miles. Never assume that they aren't already preparing to go further.
@Ballen1182 Well. I've got to buy a truck because I don't have one and I can only afford one vehicle so I need one that can do everything. After that, run it until the wheels fall off.
@shettlock no, the 6.4 hemi has mds I believe. But yea they'll have particulate filters in a few years
The cam phasers need clean oil. Change your oil regularly and you won’t have a problem. Also, turn off that stupid Start/Stop BS. Unnecessary wear.
Complete agree. I would argue the extended oil change intervals is a contributor.
I don’t care how long they say you can change it. It’s getting changed every 5k miles.
Start stop doesn’t do as much damage as you think
@@rock-uu7qrDisagree. Hot engine required by emission standards, high freeway speed, full stop due to traffic, constant low flow oil pressure pump, car comes to a stop then the engine shuts down and all the new 0-20 oil drains back into the pan, upon start up again and back to freeway speed and the damage is done to lifters, cylinders, valve train. Rinse and repeat and the end is near.
@@Jbennyho cold engine starts are where most of the wear comes from. A hot start isn't even remotely as bad, and the 5.0 calls for 5w30 anyway.
Also, upon start up and acceleration, the oil pump runs high pressure for a couple seconds and then settles back down. Gets the hot oil circulating again.
I own a 2020 F-150 4WD (no cylinder deactivation). My real world experience with the 5.0L Coyote is that it will average about 21 mpg at 55 mph, 18-19 mpg at 65 mph, and 16.5-17.5 at 75 mph. A friend has an identical pickup with the 3.5 Ecoboost. He gets about 1 mpg better than I do on average, but his 3.5 is on its second replacement turbo at 60K miles. My 5.0 has been trouble free for 50K. There is only one (STUPID!) reason for the rush to turbocharged smaller displacement engines in pickups: E-P-A. Just another way that unelected government regulators screw over consumers with mandates that consumers are forced to pay for in higher vehicle acquisitions costs, lower reliability, and increased maintenance costs.
Fully agree 100%
My 2021 f150 fx4 with gen 4 coyote and a leveling kit and 3.73 gears is averaging 19.2 mpg
3.5 Gen 1, 2011F150 Factory Turbos still 268K, 4x4, CC, MPG 15-17, Mud Tires and live in the Hills. Towing 8-9 MPG. It's been so great, best truck. Living in the hills not sure the gas would be my best option but flat landers I think would have to consider the v8.
@@JamesOutlandJr What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that overpriced EcoBoost truck?
I had a F150 w/ 3.5 eco that I just got rid of. I bought it used with 114k in January. In the shop 11 times in 4 months. I got rid of it and got a 2024 Chevy Silverado 1500. All done with ford but maybe it would have been different with a brand new truck with a V8. I swore that the dealer was sabotaging the truck so I would bring it in again. Could not believe how bad it was.
I absolutely love my 2023 F-150 Tremor with the 5.0 Coyote V8. Smooth and powerful.
You'll need a new engine soon as well. They all seem to need replacing early.
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel I think they're failing often and making noise because they're designed to rev to the moon for peak power, which is not the best for a pickup truck. I had a 3.7 f150 and the motor was tired by 130k miles, it was always reving to the moon.
mine is just an stx but still the best smoothest fastest thing ive ever owned. so much power so smooth and such a joy to drive. plus that antimatter blue is just stunning in the sun
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel My 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it has 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
@@CJColvinmy 2017 F150 5.0 has 166000 and still going strong
Just makes you think the Toyota 3.5TT (3.4) has almost no redeemable qualities. Somehow both unreliable and wildly inefficient.
Great for emissions. They don’t pollute when they blow up. Government is winning.
I’m a Toyota guy and you’re spot on. More and more engines failing everyday. I also don’t think Toyota’s diagnosis is accurate. Machining debris will cause an engine to fail quite quickly. Not 20-40k miles down the road.
All in the name of fuel economy - which admittedly is waay better than its previous 5.7 v8. But is it worth all the trouble when most of their other vehicles in their lineup are fuel efficient?
Exactly why I’m keeping my V8 Toyota. And if I do get a new truck, it’s gonna be a 5.0 F150
@@cpftank09 Thank you so much for saying that! I completely agree especially since the alleged machining debris left over in the engines happened in both the American and Japanese assembly plants.
My 5.6L Nissan Titan easily got 18-19 mpg. My 2022 Tundra non hybrid twin turbo never got better than 16.1. Sold my Tundra BEFORE the latest engine B.S.!
Just picked up a 24 Titan (March). Haven’t done a hand calculated fuel economy loop but the digital readout showed 21 on a 1k drive home after I bought it. Figured I’ll hand calculate when I get a moment. Wanted the Tundra, glad I didn’t do it now.
@@killerb5726 My 2017 Platinum Reserve was AWESOME. I wish I had kept it. Not the first time I have regretted trading into a new something. My latest upgrade is a new to me, 2022 Tesla Model S! The best and nicest car I have ever had, or gotten a ride in. Highly recommend!!
Gotta love the Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 and it'll outlast any overpriced EcoBoost truck (as well as any turbo engine) with ease.
Still rocking my 2015 Titan. Zero issues. V8 beast.
@@jeremythebeer8609 Awesome brother
Just traded Toyota Tundra 12 Jun 24. Bought 24 F150 XLT with 5.0
Same. Love it so far!
This is the way
Turbos are great
V8 are great
Poor quality and engineering kills all great things.
amen
If you understood how the process works, it is far more accurate to say "bean counters ruin all things". Most of the things you folks blame on Engineers was not their decisions.
I am on my 2nd F150 with the 3.5L TT. Bought a new one in 2019 and just traded it in recently on a new 2023. 3.31 gear ratio. I drive both highway and city to and from work each day. I'm rarely over 12L/100kms. The only reason I'd want the 5.0L is I miss the rumble of the V8.
Love the channel.
I’m on my second 3.5 TT, love the engine. Tons of power and tows anything & everything!
Eats V8’s including my brothers 2022 Ram 5.7
@@mcmuskie2563 hell the 5.0 will eat a 5.7 too. The Gm and fiat/chrysler/stellantis or whatever engines are dogs.
Been watching you recently and decided to subscribe; because you’re straight up; if you’re mistaken you own it! And I appreciate that. I’m familiar with the F150 V8 but when I was given a first F150 3.5 Ecoboost had to tow an Airstream out of the Keys due to a Hurricane warning to the central FLA area, which has a few tiny hills lol. I knew this was a game changer in towing in the first few over bridge passes. Felt as if I was in our Duramax diesel; relating to the turbo making it for smoother towing. My V8 would need to drop gears to capture higher RPM’s for torque and MPG’s would drop. But the Turbo on the other hand kicks in and simply smooths out that transition while providing better MPG’s.
I have been in many trucks due to my gig. But turbos are a game changer more so when towing. Listen we love diesels but if it weren’t for the boost they would be turtles. The boost in a diesel makes all the difference in the experience. Same has it, towing with a gas turbo.
What about reliability?
I'm getting 21-22 mpg with the v-8, 5.0 in mixed driving. Very happy! Much better than I got with my 5.4
Nice to see higher figures in flat areas, driving in a hilly city is way worse; my 2.7 gets 17mpg on a good day, highway is close to 22mpg. V8 doesn't seem to be far off at 1mpg in this video, def worth it for the sound and smooth powerband.
I absolutely love my 2023 F-150. Crew cab, 5.0 engine and a 6 ft bed. And mine came without that stupid start/stop feature. Guess I got lucky.
Same here. Feel like I got lucky. On the sticker it’s says auto start stop delete. Number 1 most annoying feature of new cars
I have a 2023 F-150 Tremor with the 5.0 Coyote V8, and I am averaging 18.8 mpg combined. The Tremor is rated 2 to 3 mpg less than other trims, so I'm pretty happy with my fuel economy.
Good to know. I’m getting ready to pull the trigger on a ‘24 with 5.0 and was curious.
Weight and aerodynamics of the truck itself is what affects mpg in a traditional shaped pick-up truck the most. It's always been that way. Gearing too but all these trucks compared in this video were as close to the same as possible. This test shows me that since the 2.7 V6 is standard on the F150 it's a great choice for good all-around mpg but if your willing and able to spend the money for the V8 and get that great V8 sound then you won't get hurt all that bad with mpg as long as you drive it reasonably most of the time.
You might like this. I have a 2002 Silverado 2500 HD 8.1. Has 280k on it, had it since brand new with 13 miles on the clock. When the outside air temps are above 95F, I get about 10% better mpg on long road trip runs. No performance decrease, same effect when towing or not. It's the decrease in air density allowing the truck to move through the air better, while also begin able to run with less fuel.
@@motofunk1interesting. I wouldn't think this difference would be noticeable but your experience says otherwise.
Are you sure you're not drafting 2 ft off the back of semi-trucks more in the summer than winter? 😅
@@jedwin4816 lol... That's like a nascar moment, pinky toe only on the go pedal.
It's definitely the aero factor. I drive a Yukon Denali with 6.2L and 10-spd and get around 24mpg on the highway with AFM disabled via tune.
I feel When people think of V8 Mpg they think of the old school v8s that were getting 8-14 mpg. These newer v8s are much more economical. I drove my 6.2 v8 to Virginia this passed week and I got 23 the whole way.
i never got above 18 with the coyote 5.0 in 2018 brand new half ton winter it dropped to 16
My 6.2L F150 never got over 21 on the highway. Still not bad.
Are you running premium gasoline? What year?
@@robertlane4432 yeah 91 and 2024 AT4
23 is still pretty poo poo compared to almost any new sedan.
2022 f150 21m @ 70 mph no trailer. About 500 lbs people and gear .19mpg around town.
My 2016 v 8, gets 10.5 l / 100 highway. With only 6 gears! Full size truck fits my family and gear for camping, pulling a trailer, back country driving, etc…. Solid performer all around. Although I welcome new tech improvements in truck world, I expect them to be robustly designed and tested before consumer rollout. I would be reluctant to get another full size truck without a normally aspirated v 8. Great video - thanks!
Great video. My 2023 2.7L F150 4x4 does really good on the highway, until I hit about 75 MPH. Then I see a fairy good size drop in MPG.
Your fuel tests are the most thorough on youtube. Keep up the great work!
Drove over 32,000km across Canada and some of the northern US last summer in our 2022 F150 King Ranch with the Coyote V8- average mileage for the entire trip, which included city, highway, hills, valleys and everything in between worked out to be 12.1l/100km or about 19MPG. Pair that with the reliability of this engine and I’m more than thrilled.
@@mikespies786 you didn’t get 28mpg unless you drive 50mph.
@@robertlane4432 Thanks for the note- my math on converting the L/100km was incorrect- I appreciate the heads up- I adjusted this in the comments. As a Canadian, we only deal in L/100, not MPG- apologies for the oversight.
@@mikespies786 Love it. 👍 I have 160k on my 2009. Change oil and filter every 6 months or 4k miles. Check my oil today. That stick is clean as new and so is the oil. New air filter every 6 months.
Great video about the 5.0 v8. What do you think about the Nissan Titan 5.6 V8. Thank you
My 2014 FX4 Supercrew 5.0L steel body averages 18.0 mpg. That's average since January when I last reset the trip A, B, and Fuel gauges. I usually get between 17.5-17.8 mpg per year average. The highest I had for a month was 19.3 on the screen which came out to 18.8 mpg. These engines can be pretty efficient when you use cruise. I drive 60 miles+ daily to and from work. A lot of it is 55 mph country road, but the city where my job is has a ridiculous traffic light system where you stop at every intersection. The only way to get through them all is run one red light, then it's non-stop through town.
Get that transmission warranty taken care of!
I have had tons of makes and models of new trucks through work and the 5.0l is my absolute favorite engine.
2014 f150 here, 5.0, 3.55 130,000km change oil full syn every 4000km runs like new and i tow heavy 8000km per year ❤
Awesome brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
My 2024 f150 xlt got 26 mpg last night all highway miles going 55 to 60 mph. Very pleased with it.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I have a 2018 with the 2.7L, and hardly ever get less than 20 mpg. I always calculate my mileage and typically do about 22 in the summer and maybe 20.5 in the winter. Our gas is E10, so you lose about 6% as a result and my mixed driving is tilted toward highway. I'm also a senior and not so much in a hurry, so drive with a lighter foot. I also did pretty well (around 18) towing a Toyota Corolla. It's very responsive once the turbos kick in and I love the mileage. I chose the smaller engine specifically for fuel economy and the difference between that and the V8 was several mpg, if I recall. If it's only around 1mpg, then that changes the equation. Thanks again for the information.
My 2024 5.0 3.73 rear 4x4 STX gets 21 in town and 27 on the highway. Love the truck
My 2018 STX 4x4 with 3.55's gets 25 on the highway at 70 mph. On back roads where its 55 I have gotten as good as 29.
That's good to hear, im getting mine tomorrow 🎉
@@rdsii64 Is your engine 5.0? I ask because 3.55's not available with 5.0 in 2024. Only 3.5 ecoboost now.
@@davidhenson6337 No my 2018 is a 2.7L ecoboost.
@@rdsii64 How is the power of the 2.7?
I get over 24 MPG on the freeway with my V8 2024 F-150. I keep it at 70 MPH and in regular drive mode. If I don't drive it crazy in the city, I'm getting about 20MPG. Even if I beat on it, I can get 15 MPG. Not bad for only 4000 mile on it so far. The fuel MPG on the dash reads 1/2 MPG high. I can live with that. I plan on keeping this truck for a long time and I won't have Eco-boost problems when I get past the 150,000 mark.
Just fueled up my 2003 Silverado with the 4.8 and 159k miles on it. Figured up my fuel economy and I’m getting 20 miles to the gallon!
Ford is the only manufacturer I’ve seen where the on screen readout is spot on with the calculated mpg, my VW is consistently off by 8% lol
Mine on my 250 is always off reads higher than hand calculated seems like it only calculates driven fuel and being a diesel I idle alot for warm up and if I am gonna get back in it and drive shortly after I get out ill leave it running
I don't know about towing, however I have no problem getting 24 mpg highway in my 2012 F150 super crew platinum with the 5 liter and 6 speed automatic transmission. This is from the actual math at the pump. Anything over 65 mph will definitely lower this number. 158,000 miles on the clock.
Put a small slide in a pop-up camper in these trucks and the gm 5.3. What i observed was the Chevy 5.3, and the Ford 5.0 had the best loaded mpgs with about 1950 pounds of total load, including passengers and a frontal wind load that campers create between cabover and truck roof. Chevy 5.3 and Ford 5.0 got about 13 to 13.5 at 68 to 70 mpgs. Ecoboost 3.5 got about 11 mpgs. I didn't try it with the 2.7 or the gm 3.0 diesel or the 5.7 hemi. Nor did i try it with powerboost given its lower patload rating.
Ever proofread your work?
I like the 5.0 but did not care for hard shifting in a 21 xlt compared to the 3.5 in a 22 xlt. Maybe i had a unique experience. Moreover the lower torque curve of the 3.5 is enjoyable.
The 3.5 also shifts a lot less
IMO, the 5.6 in the Nissan Titan is one of the best engines out there. They had some issues with the number 7 cylinder but worked them out. As a local truck driver I notice which trucks I see most on the road ( as well as the ones I see on the side of the road) and I see more older Nissans and Fords everywhere I go. Also I’ve noticed many Toyota cars broken down lately, not sure why.
Thanks for answering my question about the turbo engine and idling. I will say this no matter what the Gm 5.3 v8 can experience in problems there are Chevy Tahoe police units that sit and idle for long periods so even though turbos seem to be the wave of the future I will take my 5.3 v8 or the coyote 5.0 v8 as long as they keep making them. Thanks again.
Had a 16 mustang gt and I can tell you the coyote is a beast. Loved it. Traded it in for an f250, and live that too....
Never selling my supercharged & procharged V8's 💪
Ford also uses a entirely different oil pump on the gen4 Coyote engine that is driven by a belt. Not sure how long these belts will hold up since it is ran in an oil environment.
Agreed, its not a perfect engine and that is certainly something that I don't like.
Sounds like planned obsolescence to me.
It’s a Kevlar belt that’s been proven to not be an issue so far. 2.7L eco utilizes the same oil belt driven pump.
I don't like the belt either. However, the rash of failed belts on other Ford engines is related to tensioner failures and excessive oil temperature. The 5.0 does not have these problems, and from what I understand also has a quality belt. There is some chance the aftermarket will come up with an 'easy to install' replacement with something that works like a master link. These do exist for industrial applications.
Still running my 13 5.0.
Live in a small town as a contractor and can get by with $60 a week at $1.80 per litre.
Will always have a v8.
Very dependable in the long run.
Amen Brother amem!!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
Just got mine yesterday! Test drove 2.7 and 5.0, and the coyote came out on top
Great video, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
Just sold my 2011 f150 5.0 had 244k never touch a thing except spark plugs once. Ran perfect. Made less noise than my current 85k 2018 f150 5.0.
@@mikeraftis6332 Very nice
It’s not all about fuel mileage that people want the V8. It’s about durability. Driven responsibly, maintained by the book standards and kept clean, the 5.0 liter will be running long after the 6 cylinders have been crushed and recycled.
I always enjoy your videos and thank you for sharing them with us. On a side note, the V8's are here to stay at least in the US, 2025 is just around the corner.
I was going that route but decided for 24' 2500 6.6 gasser silverado
Old fashion mechanics. Will last decades
It is DI...big mistake.
I have a 2024 F150 xlt supercrew 5.0 with 3.73 and have been driving it from West Virginia to the eastern shore of Maryland and average 21mpg normally with cruise set around 80mph most of the way. I'm happy with it.
2 or 4 wheel drive?
4x4
I know the 5.0 liter V8 sounds great but I have owned two 3.5 liter Eco Boosts. Test drive the same truck with the Eco Boost and the V8. I did both times and chose the Eco Boost.
Test drive the 5.0 with a whipple and I think you’ll change your mind.
I'll take a V8 any day over a twin turbo v6 or a 4. Years ago a 5.0L v8 engine would have 140 hp, today 400 hp wow!!! NB looks great with no snow. It was 90+ f in NC today. Using the a/c would lower mpg, I bet.
Amen Brother, gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 162,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
The 5.0 has cylinder deactivation . 4 cylinder on light loads
Love my 5.0 traded in my 3.5 for it which was a good truck but.... a straight piped v8 is heaven
Which engine do you like more? Tough decision I’m buying new
@@AlexSilis If your pulling a heavier trailer often i would get the 3.5 it pulls better.
My trailers are light dirtbike rzrs etc. so i went with a coyote this time, the 3.5 is so smooth it's kind of boring the V8 rumble and coarseness is fun to drive...
So I rented a 2024 Powerboost 4x4 for the week for a long road trip to Arizona from Louisiana. Been maintaining 22 to 22.5 mpg at speeds between 75-79 mph. I’m actually quite surprised by those numbers. Wish I can compare a 5.0L at those speeds. About to start the second half the trip and will be driving into the wind of northern Texas and New Mexico, and then the high desert of Arizona, let’s see how the truck performs.
22-22.5 at those speeds is extremely impressive. My 2014 Ecoboost would have been in the 16 mpg range at those speeds.
@@Jay-me7gw that’s pretty much how my 2012 performs. It costed me over $700 to rent the truck, but it wasn’t about saving fuel-I just didn’t wanna take the risk, driving a 12 year old truck across the hot desert with 2 elderly in-laws.
How did it do?
@@alexhernandez5061 the return trip, the gas mileage went down a little. West Texas on the I-10, speed limit was 80 mph, so I was steadily cruising around 80-82. The mpg stayed above 20 the whole time.
1:06 Thanks much, showing F-150 SIDE TO SIDE front end differences in VIDEO. 👍
Love my 21 F-150. I have a 5.0 and I don’t regret it. I am a little jealous of the eco boosts mpg but im glad I don’t have to worry about turbo chargers
I have a 2015 F-150 super crew cab 4X4 with 5 Liter Coyote engine. Where I am here in Montana it's 130 miles to the nearest Walmart 🙂 I get an average of 19mpg. Going against a wind.....16mpg.
I just installed a Whipple on my 2024 F-150 Lariat 5.0 and will never go back to the 3.5 turbo. The whipple tune removes cylinder deactivation and auto stop and start. The coyote is simply the best engine when you add forced induction. Plus you still have a 36k warranty but I don’t expect any issues since I’ll be using it as my daily and not driving it around like a race car. The Borla S type exhaust I installed sounds fire 🔥
Did you do that through a Ford dealership? Or elsewhere? How much did that cost?
@@huntercall8726 At a dealership. The supercharger is about 10k and labor is another 2k.
V8 is king. My F-150 coyote V8 has 310k miles and has never needed more than basic maintenance.
What year do you have?
I really enjoy your insights and video! Thank you for putting together amazing videos. You have a very underrated channel.
We have 2 5.0s and love them!
It was nuts going from a 04 f250. 5.4 2valve to a 2018 f150 5.0. Went from 9mpg to 19mpg and gained 100hp lol.
Why such poor mileage from the F-250? My 01 Expedition, max towing package same engine, I average 9.2 towing 9200 lbs! between 16-18 empty.
@@3o2Boss she was getting old
My 2015 F-150 Lariat FX4 5.0L 6 speed with 3.55 axle gets 23.3 mpg @ highway speed (around 70 mph). It also has Ford Performance sport cat back exhaust (made by Borla for ford) and a K&N replacement air filter element. City driving does drop to about 18 mpg depending on how it’s driven with the 3.55 gear ratio.
Right now the 5.0 is the only engine I would get in a truck. I love my 5.3 in my 2012 Silverado but since GM brought out the gen 3 5.3 it has several issues and they didn’t help the mileage or power !
I don't know how much difference that 3:31 makes overall with this engine. I've gotten around 20 mpg combined at 5k+ elevation for thousands of miles in my 3:73 Tremor, and I've never put it in Eco mode (I have put it in Sport mode though and done some off-road). I've noticed it gets much thirstier in wind at highway/interstate speeds. The truck says it is at 20.8 mpg over the last 3k miles, but my pump calculations trend closer to 19.6 to 20.2 mpg. My 2013 Rock Warrior had more torque with the 4:25 (I think) diff (and I loved that truck), but the mpg was crap, and the tank was small. So far, I am still happy with the Coyote.
if they could build a twin turbo that was reliable I would get onboard
I'm near the same elevation and get similar mileage out of my Tremor with the 5.0 Coyote V8.
@@sqd37l I agree, but I'm an old that hasn't trusted turbos for a personal vehicle yet. The old Tundra 5.7 I had was sold to the company because we needed work trucks, and it has been the best (and by far the oldest) 1/2-ton vehicle in the local fleet for a year and a half (other than mpg (at 110K plus miles)). I have no idea what Toyota has been thinking the last few years. No recovery hooks?...SMH. Peace, Love!!
@@JT012 I actually bought the Coyote thinking I was going to supercharge it, but the mpg has me in pause mode. Peace, Love!!
Govt. BS mandates. I don't want a turbo v6. I'm not in mountains for everyday, and will be there maybe, maybe, once a year. I also don't want the stop start crap. Heavy traffic, making a left turn, that delay is a far greater chance of getting T-boned.
Then just turn it off
@@jasonbrushett2005problem is we have to do it every time we start the engine. If you wanna cut it permanentely you need to buy a program or something...if only they made it from factory
Agreed, plus if you plan on towing heavy in the mountains then just buy a Super Duty with the 6.7L Powerstroke Diesel.
The auto stop/start system is a joke. Wait until we start getting more traffic jams causing more pollution due to starters failing! EPA idiots didn’t think about that!
@@ralphe14 One would think you are sending power or a ground through your button every time you hit the button to disable. You would think you could just hard wire it with whichever it takes and you would be done with it.
In the 2018 Detroit Auto Show, Ford premiered a Crew Cab F-150 with the 2.7 Liter opposed piston Achates engine with a combined EPA fuel economy of 37 MPG. It was a three cylinder with two cranks and six pistons and no heads or valve train with 270 horsepower and about 480 foot pounds torque. Some said it got about 45 MPG highway. Cummins was building a government engine called the ACE, Advance Combat Engine, making 1000 horses. It’s a flat four-eight piston and 14.3 liter. Either engine can be built as gas, diesel or propane.Six or seven years later and we get the same old run around.
My 2023 5.0 150 gets 19mpg, my 2012 3.5 ecoboost got 15.9..im loving my 5.0
I have the 2024 5L and it’s awesome
2016 F 150 w/5.0 Coyote. 17 mpg city/highway combo.
20-22 mpg highway.
3:31 gears matched to the 6-speed trans.
My wife's performance tuned '08 Mustang GT with the 3v 4.6L gets 24mpg. Crazy efficient for a 3700lb brick going down the road. I'm not the biggest fan of Fords due to their pencil pushing sometimes tanking vehicle reliability but sometimes they do get things right.
2019 F150 6.5’ bed, banks pedal monster, level kit, 22 mpg freeway. Luv it V8 belong in trucks !
Those are dream conditions tho. Down here in the Southeastern US you'd have a red light every intersection, even the suburban areas where it's a 55mph zone you're going to have to stop at every light. And in the summer months the air conditioning will be on full blast. Those highways up there are like when we had covid lockdowns here . They are deserted in comparison. Down here the highways are stop and go or stop and crawl . Frequent idling. Frequent acceleration. Frequent A/C on full blast.
This cracks me up... In the early 70's it was fairly common to get 20 MPG in a 1/2 ton Dodge 2 wheel drive with a 5.2 (318) V8.
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With 3hp in the old dodge.. lol.. I agree though. My 85 f150 5.8 351ho (4 barrel carb) avg'd excellent hand calculated miles compared to a stock ford 4.6 efi in 2012ish.. probably 16 mpg out of the 351w with a c6 auto vs 10mpg with the 4.6 and a 4r70 od trans. The thing is, the newest trucks are getting around the same economy with double the power, and a miniscule amount of emissions.
I knew a guy who had an F150 eco boost. He did all of his own oil changes. Turbo went out. He contacted Ford who said oil changes weren't documented ( aka Ford dealership did not do them). Last I knew he was fighting with Ford. Remember that if you do your own or if you use a handy lube type place, your oil changes/maintenance aren't within a Ford, Toyota or whomever network. I know some will disagree but I have all my oil changes/maintenance done at a dealer. Yes it's $$ but I hope if theres an issue and it's their fault, "I might" have a little leverage.
With my Coyote I am getting up to 23 plus mpg on the highway with a bed cover. The best Vehicle I have ever owned and at 70 yo, that’s a lot of sedans,suvs and pickups.
I have had both. Its smoke and mirrors with the Ecoboost. Any load at all, wind, hills, and its milage drops substantially. When I hooked up a light 5x11' trailer unloaded milage on the ECOboost went to 11 mpg weather or not if it had a load on the trailer or not. I will stay with the 5.0 all day long in a truck for someone who actually uses it as a truck.
How would the Chevy 3.0 Duramax compare?
I had a 2.7 Ecotoast. My current ride with a 5.3 v8 and cylinder deactivation bypassed gets better milage.
I have an f150 with the 5.0l v8 bought in 2019, currently has 70K miles on it. If I drive it around 50 mph it will get 23-24 mpg. At 70 mph it drops to 21 mpg. So speed and terrain has a huge impact on mileage. In city driving it gets around 17 mpg. I have also noticed if I have the injectors cleaned mpg improves dramatically.
Agreed, speed and type of driving has a large impact. interesting, how do you clean your injectors?
@@TheGettyAdventures I have been adding the bottles of injector cleaner to the gas tank every 15-20k. Recently while having an oil change at about 72K miles they offered an injector cleaning for a fee. They opened a line and forced some kind of miracle fluid in. The difference was astonishing eliminated what I thought was low octane ping and gained 3-4 mpg.
I have a 2016 Ram with the 5.7 Hemi. I get on average 21 mpg with MDS disconnected. Looking at buying a new F150 and it MUST HAVE the 5.0 V8.
The V8 isn’t going anywhere. Doesn’t matter what anyone says. If one prefers a V8 over the less reliable 6, that’s their choice. Going electric and dropping the V8 is why so many companies are losing money.
If you drive 12,000 miles a year and unleaded is $3.33 per gal, the extra cost is about $123/year in fuel vs the 3.5 eco boost. Not really much of a difference to me, the choice would come down to performance and reliability!
You speak analytically, carry on!
I'm very happy with my '23 F-150 Coyote. Regular cab. 6.5' box. 4x2 with electric locker. Refrigerator white. Have had it a year. ~6 k miles so far. Mileage is better than my old SWB '01 Silverado with V-6 an 5 spd.. Wasn't looking at Ford to begin with. Would have bought another GM but no V-8 in work truck. Would have bought a Taco but no SWB versions on lots dealers refused to order one.
Damn that thing is probably pretty quick with the 5L in there. But in general I have noticed over the past few years Ford has way more options for their f150's. multiple engines, multiple gearing set ups which can all come with LSD, locking diffs or open. where the competition is seemingly cutting down alot of options. Ram for example in 2025 will offer a single engine per trim level.
@@TheGettyAdventures They are never quick enough 🙂
Yes, I like Ford's mechanical options. It would be nice if they offered individual comfort options rather than packages. I'm on the lookout for some power seats. Would have rather purchased them with the truck.
I will never buy a full size without a V8.
They can keep their small motors.
Fully agree 100%
For a given mass, X amount of energy is needed to move that mass. The secret to fuel economy is to reduce the mass, then improve aerodynamics and improve thermal efficiency using innovative technologies.
For example, my 2018 Mitsubishi Triton 2.4 diesel, which is comparable in size to a Toyota Tacoma, manages to achieve a significantly better fuel economy, primarily because it has a diesel engine. The power rating is 182 hp and 320 lb/ft, its fuel consumption rating is 6.5 l/100 km, or 36 mpg per US gallon.
This is achieved using variable valve control (MIVEC) an offset crankshaft, aluminium engine block, variable geometry turbo, and an aerodynamic front end. Driven with a light foot, it's possible to achieve 49 mpg highway, observing the national speed limit of 90 kph, 56 mph. here in Thailand.
It takes FUEL to run a BEAST!!! A+++ video!!!
I have a 2021 F150 lifted with 36 inch tall tires and I am still averaging 18 and a half miles per gallon. Broadcast tons of acceleration what I want it and pulls a trailer
I get over 1200km on a tank (9.1L/100)
Km)in my 21 5.0 with 3.31 when I drive for mileage (not using cruise and babying it)). If I drive with cruise, or just don’t care, it gets 10.7 - pretty much the same as in this test.
Man i love that 2.7 its a monster
As usual, excellent reviews! Truly appreciate the information from a mechanics point of view that you present in your reviews. For that reason, I would like to know your opinion on adding a hybrid powertrain on a HD 7.3 (as an example) to try to replicate the low end torque of a diesel and perhaps improve mpg. I have considered it on diesels but all evidence seems to point against it given the already crammed engine and overall payload problem it would present with the added weight. I think the 7.3 could accommodate a larger hybrid battery making its weight similar to a diesel truck with 2-300 more horsepower. I would think, 700 tq with, 550 or more hp is not a stretch. What are your thoughts?
Awesome video, the Turbo and Hybrid corruption is ending soon. The V8s are awesome all around, even the 4Runner with 4.0 V6 doesn’t get 21 mpg.
Very good video and appreciate your explanations! Please keep these type videos coming. I would love to know how the 5.0L hold up as towing vehicles.
My 2014 5.0l is my best friend 😊
Hi Alex.
Incredible performance that 5.0 l "Coyote"
Meanwhile the electronic and programs in software knows and understanding the mechanical in "coyote". We can enjoy V8 more time!
Big HUG
Thank's
I have a '21 with a 5.0. I'd like to tune out the cylinder deactivation for driveability, but other than that it's fine. I would take it over any other half ton v8 on the market by a long shot. All I'll say is don't make the mistake I did, get the lowest rear end you can get with the 5.0. And by the way, the 5.0 will get better economy with a load than the 3.5
That's why I'm good with ohv motors. The old school way.
Great review you cant go wrong with the V8 F150, love from saudi arabia subscribed. 👍
Just purchased new to me 2022 fx4 with the 5.0
Hope I am able to get that fuel economy out of it
Did upsize tire a little with an all terrain (duratrac)
Love my V8 motors! Turbos will eventually fail. I'll take a 5.7, 6.2 or 6.4 liter motor over any turbo 4 or turbo V6 motor. The B58 straight 6 turbo motor made by BMW is the only other motor that I like. It's also used in the new Supra.
Do you think the advantage the 2.7 eco boost has will be offset if bigger tires and a lift are put on the truck because it will react more sensitively than the 5.0? So will there be a point where the 5.0 and 2.7 meet, or the 5.0 even gets better mpg because it’s less sensitive?