The 2024 Kawasaki ZX-4RR Is Over Hyped
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Do you agree w/me?
It has up and down QS, and keep in mind that you guys in the US get the restricted version, while where I live we get it unrestricted from the get go.
EDIT: I completely agree with the intended use for the bike. I love the 4-cylinder sound and want to be able to be higher in the revs without losing my license immediately while blasting through the twisties with my friends. I have a longer test ride lined up, since I am a bit over 6´2, I need to see if I can ride it for 2+ hours without completely destroying my legs and back. If it works out I am definitely buying one.
Small bike fast is good, but when you are going with the traffic you need to be in the right gear for passing ability.
Well you can get a CB650R for less than that. So I kinda agree. It's too little for too much $$$.
I agree with “change your first name to bike” 😂. No excuses champ, shut up and practice ! I started on a CBR 300R. It’s a great bike. My only issue is the highway. I’ve only been able to get to 86 and that’s all the way open. I’m 6 ft, I weigh 280 currently (trying to get slimmer for health reasons). In Massachusetts you need to be able to hit 100 with ease just to be able to get out of trouble. I ordered a zx6r and when that arrives I’m looking to upgrade the 300 to something with just a little more power so I can use for the track. Maybe the aprillia 457
@@pandurlolgg5780 Much heavier, no TFT, no QS and no auto-blipper. More power, and also needs to be revved hard to get to that power (when you get into the power band, you are much too fast for the speed limit). All the reasons why I didn't buy one, although I like very much how it looks.
For those in comments saying 100HP potential... FALSE. I own one. Even with Graves exhaust, MWR Performance air filter, and ECU Flash by Vcyclenut, she is sitting at 78HP. Even Graves' full race 4RR is not at 100HP. As for the review, did he get the most out of his ride? Nope. Road mode puts KTRC at a 2, that prevents full acceleration of bike. Sport and Rider mode give full acceleration. When quickshift IS engaged, it does have up AND down capabilities with auto-blip/rev-matching. I DO agree with the assessment of his review. It's not a beginner bike and is costly. But also remember, 4RR is a four cylinder with ram air, not a twin like all other bikes in its size class. I graduated myself from the 2021 base 400 to this, and they are light years apart from each other.
Yeah, I totally agree with you on everything, particularly in regards to the 100BHP potential.
Mines is track only use, with race built stroker engine, staggered Cams, stage 2 map, peaks at 84.7 BHP.
@@ukcitizen1158: Ooof. It would probably be several thousand dollars to get all the engine work you mentioned?
Fortnite says it is theoretical 90 HP for this engine of this size inline 4 (watch the zx4rr video :)) 77HP is what you get as stock in Europe
@@Aberamentho2010 $500 for a slip on, $300 for an ecu flash and $100 for a DNA air filter.
@@mpc2510 You would need the full system to get max hp output my guy. That's going to be about $1.5k. And you forgot the cost of the actual dyno tune session. Even if you half@ssed it with your approach, you're still looking at $12.5k.....for a n400...with now only 70hp....with a non-fully adjustable suspension.
The whole point of the bike is that it's a 4 cylinder engine making about 75hp at 15k rpm.
That's about 2x the power of regular 300-400cc bikes, which are twins making around 40hp, and top out at only 10k rpm.
2 takeaways:
- It's not competing with 400cc bikes. It's competing with bikes like the R7 or GSX8R, which make the same power at about the same price.
- If you're not redlining it, you're not using it right.
You get it.
I want to switch my 400cc single that tops out at 10k rpm to a machine that I can rev the shit out without breaking triple digit speeds, this is the perfect bike for that.
I own an inline 4 liter bike, and if I have to redline it, I'll be doing about 130km/h on first gear, that's hard and dangerous if you're doing it on the streets.
I think we all agree with you, but I believe at the core of what he's saying, is that spending $13k for a 80hp n400 just doesn't seem like an optimal choice.
great answer! yamaha boys will be gealous 😂🤙💚
@@sadeqalbanathe exact reason why I ordered one. Ive owned 2020 zx6r and h2 sx se. This will be my secondary bike (primary or secondary remains to be seen haha)
I'm a beginner, learner's permit and have my ZX4RR for +1020 KM now (+600 miles) as of today. Love it.
sure have you seen the gaming PCs kids parents pay for so they can play fortnite with it
its not a beginner bike
@@williamrobinson4265great analogy haha
@@williamrobinson4265 That is exactly this situation lol
@@williamrobinson4265lol my pc setup cost more than a ninja 400
@@williamrobinson4265 Ducati Panigale V4 isn´t beginners track bike. This is. Many reviews agree on that.
I own the 2023 zx-4rr. I absolutly love my bike. I have also owned 3 other bikes over the last 20+ years. Beginner bike? Wouldn't recommend it. She wants to run, even without the ECU flash. Zero negative to say about my bike. You absolutly WILL spend a lot to make her truly scream, but I think it is worth it. Come on, really? 400, inline 4... In my opionion, Kawasaki knocked it out of the PARK with this one.
Fairly inexperienced rider here.. come from a ninja 400 to this was night and day! The sound.. the 15k redline and the feeling when you’re going through the twisties in 1st and 2nd is like nothing else! Also the up/down blip quick shifter is amazing!
This bike is a blast when you are able to tune the power back up and wring it out. It’s like the S2000 of motorcycles. Light, rev happy, sounds amazing, makes just enough power to be have fun and not go crazy. It also brings that 90s Japan nostalgia into the modern landscape. It’s a one of a kind bike in the US market. Sure you can argue about price to performance but let’s not pretend that bikes are a logical purchase to begin with. It’s about getting the experience and character that resonates with you, and the ZX4RR has character.
Got a s2k already and a zx4rr on the way!
"Beginner" rider doesn't always mean the budget is small. Spending 10K on a bike doesn't necessarily preclude the owner from investing money in additional courses and building their skills. For some, it is possible to do both.
I bought a low budget bike when I was a new rider because I knew I wouldn't be devastated if I damaged it.
yeah I got a used ninja 300 and then blew my budget on the best safety gear
kids get their parents to buy them glowing gaming PCs just to play Fortnite on them and not even be any good
Yeah but no one in their right mind would go and buy a new bike worth 10k and go learn on it on courses knowing they are going to drop it eventually or at least knowingly taking that risk. I had a pain free experience learning on dual sports which are way easier to ride and I even dropped it once testing the limits and those were old honda bikes with bunch of KMs, not a brand new expensive to repair sportbike. if you have no experince and you spend 10k plus gear plus courses then you're doing it wrong, you're going to be afraid to drop it and therefore afraid to take more risks to learn the limits and get the fear out of you. With a cheaper used bike you can ride it normally, learn the limits faster because you're not as afraid to damage it and then after learning how the road works and learning how to ride properly you can buy a shiny new bike knowing you have the ability to use it properly
@@haste953 Speak for yourself. I put an Impaktech crash cage on my ZX4RR first thing and have been doing drills before turning it in for its first maintenance. Up to day 4 on my channel!
@@haste953Yeah it is doing wrong if you are financially limited. If you aren't broke and money truly isn't an issue for you then it doesn't fucking matter what you buy because you still have money for courses and gear.
You’re making comments about power delivery, and are shifting at 6-7K versus a 14-15K redline, on an engine that makes nothing in the lower half.
it's still a slow bike at 15,000rpm
@@MotoJitsuit’s a 400 buddy
@@MotoJitsuin europe 77hp stock
I would recommend you reading instructions / asking for assistance first, bc without the auto blipper its really just half the fun. The whole bike comes alive at min12krpm.
I got this bike alongside my H2 SX, and I will take the ZX 4RR on a sunny day over the H2 any day of the week to go down a decent B-Road. It is perfect for a good road. It’s like the Fiesta ST for bikes!
Had a Fiesta St.
Spot on comparison.
yeah I think a ford fiesta is a great comparison xD
Ha! I love my H2 sx but am looking at this exact bike as a second. Great minds think alike!
Are you UK rider?
I was one who hated the price and I still do but I ended up with it in my garage lmaooo.
I test rode one last year and my impressions were that it would be a suitable bike to learn with and take to the track without having to put thousands into suspension and motor vs a Ninja 400, R3, and the similar. Smooth power delivery, the need to carry speed, etc. Plus it has me laughing in my helmet with the angry bumblebee exhaust and willingness to wind it out.
There's also a flash tune to get most of the missing power in the US back vs the rest of world spec so it has an easy path to keep a rider happier than jumping to the next category of machine.
I wouldn't buy one because it's not fitting my all street riding life but I can see who might buy it.
I think you're right and that was their goal with it. I owned a base 400 ninja 2021 and this looks the track enthousiast upgrades and finally sounds cool.
Kawi loves to lie on their numbers😅
I have the 40th anniversary zx4rr with a Yoshimura exhaust. I love the bike, but I also have a 2021 zx14r. My bikes are polar opposites. One is biggest inline 4 the other the smallest inline 4 in the USA. The zx4rr is more of a nostalgic bike for me and I don’t recommend it to beginners. You have to constantly have it over 10,000 rpm’s for it to be fun. I use it to commute 60 miles round trip to work almost every day.
maybe you think that because the zx4rr over there is severely limited in power.
everywhere else it's around 77hp
I'm just here to see all the rage comments from people who are going to be up in their feelings because Greg called the zx4RR "meh".... got my popcorn ready!
The problem is he bases his review on a completely stock bike, but nobody leaves these stock. A bike with a few bits from Graves motorsports will completely change the bike.
You can say the same thing about pretty much any other bike out there... of course you can modify it and make it better.
It begins bwahahahahahaha
^ Yeah, needs a tune, to fix how it lays down, above 10K, due to the North American ECU restriction.
It’s very good as a dual-purpose commuter/track bike.
Smoother than a twin.
Got to drop gears & rev, if you want passing power 😁
It is more for someone who wants to work for speed & develop their skills, vs just using Torque.
I have 3 bikes and my ZX-4 (which is the cheapest one) might be the best all-around and definitely best for advancing my skills.
@@churchofbrap876thats how you suppose to review it dummy
Fair observations. It is not for everyone to be sure. Definitely expensive for a beginners first bike.
For me it is my weekend toy. Its a blast in my local twisties and hearing the small four scream above 10k (with the right parts) is heavenly. In traffic it is ok.
Never bought it for a daily, for that i hop on my adv bike.
Yeah i bought one, the 40th anniversary because well...i am a nostalgic type of guy.
Ride safe.
I'm also a nostalgic kinda fellow, which is why I ride a Z900RS. Personally I can not see the appeal of these small displacement bikes, but that's just me. Ride safe.
@@archibaldcunningham2569For beginners or less experiences riders. Ive been riding a z400 and mt03. I wanted a sports bike that was still nimble for country riding. A lot of twisties and fun.
@@archibaldcunningham2569I don't see the appeal of large displacement bikes.
I got the 2024 ZX-4R and so far, so good! Is it just only me that is not too fond of the green and like the all black? Couldn't find one youtube video of the 2024 ZX-4R.
Try japanese channels.
try Indian channels too since we only have the 4R here and not the 4RR or the special editions
Agree! I bought metal black zx4r with quick shifter, not the krt
Same I got the 24 4rr sparkle metallic black. Honestly been thinking bout starting a channel up for it. I have the Coffmans classic slip on
The only thing I don't like about this channel is he really pats himself on the back a lot. The zx4rr is by far the best small bore bike out. Best motor by far
Changing gears without using the clutch is such a nice feature. You can get the quickshifter extremely smooth, but you have to learn, what throttle position is right in each scenario. I can go from 6mph into second and its super smooth. The trick is constant throttle. What I just love is the sound. I can go down my public road at 6k rpm and to me it sounds like a supersport ready to go. Roaring and all that. It also has some sort of sizzle at 4k rpm, that sounds like a small turbine whine of sorts. Just a lovely bike
I see where you're coming from. I think for a lot of people it's the "value" that concerns them.. It is a bit of spendy bike for a 400... But in my personal opinion, value isn't just a number on a price tag. I think the ability to ride the hell out of thing and stay under 3 digit speeds is a big one to consider. Someone who wants that "super sport" life without truly having to get on a super sport... If that makes sense? Although maybe not necessarily a beginner bike, I would certainly recommend this as a starter bike over something like a 600, particularly in the super sport category. I think this bike is a lot more forgiving in a few aspects than a 600+ lol. Idk, to me if money isn't really that big of a deal, then I'd say get it. Because it's certainly a ton of fun, and even though the power has been reduced by a decent bit for the US market, it still scoots. If I'm anywhere near redline on my 636, I'm well into the triple digit speeds, and that isn't always fun I suppose. Lots of aspects to consider here in all honesty.
I own the 2023. Let's GO! My previous bike was the 1989 Yamaha FZR400.
wasnt that bike all about the super high rpm line? Probabaly you were not able to give it all...
I am fully on board with you about the price, almost 10 grand for a 400cc bike is a little steep! Especially when there’s so many options out there for beginner riders from various manufacturers. However, getting that particular bike setup for the track is an excellent idea after some modifications. When I started riding many years ago, I went from a mini-bike with the lawnmower motor on it which my friend and I made from a kit, to a Yamaha XS 650 Special for $1300 bucks back in the day! Nowadays, the choices are so wide ranging for people on a budget and they’re just starting out! Excellent detailed and informative review, cool. 👍
-You hit the Nail on The Head with this review! About a month before this bike was released, I was all ready to order one but glad I waited. For the type of riding I do - no more track riding but a combination of mostly Canyon cruising, some City, and very little Highway... I decided to get a 2024 CBR650 this summer! I've owned a Ninja 650 since 2018 (which I love !) and will keep ..but miss the buttery smoothness of a 4 cyl, engine . I'm not into aftermarket exhausts bcs I like to hear the engine, not the pipe(s). I've owned (3) four cyl bikes since 1987..all Suzukis, and been riding since 1985. The Ninja 4RR is more track focused like you said, (it reminds me of a MAZDA MIATA vs a CORVETTE C8) A four hundred cc sport bike vs a liter sport bike! 🤔
You need to get that engine singing high up in the rev range to access the power
It’s a brand new bike that isn’t mine & even still, not much power
@@MotoJitsuof course it doesn't have power low in the rev range.
Google peak power figures on this bike in the unrestricted variant in Europe and Australia. It produces peak power at 14500 rpm.
The whole point of this bike is to try to keep it over about 9000 rpm. It doesn't have torque and power everywhere in the rev range. The purpose of this bike is to make you work a bit harder to stay in the power band. Similar to the old 2 strokes, although with a much better engine and much better handling.
So I have both a 400 and ZX-4RR, and my 400 can dust the Z. The tech on the Z is cool and it looks good, but my 400 was less than half the price.
Performance wise i hit redline in 4th gear on my cbr600rr and im breaking laws EVERYWHERE
After starting a family im jumping over to an r3 and im excited to wring it out to 10k often lmao.
Once my finances improve i will 100% be looking for a zx4rr. It really is a wonderful package. Everyone else that disagree can just get a zx10 or h2 lmao.
riding it on too low gears. besides, not sure if this is a good bike for the US market since you have the highways etc. But for us here in Nordics this will be great bike because it can be ridden like a supersport still not going too fast that fits our max 130 km/h and is also relatively economical considering the local gas prices
Seriously you rode it with the wrong settings, needed sport and quick shift turned on. It is classic he is saying it just does not have the power to get up to highway speeds quickly but the RPMs are at 7000, less than half red line. If you are reading this and considering a ZX4rr do not pay attention to this review, the rider is not experienced enough to actually test the bike. The breaks are actually awesome, I have been amazed with mine. I am coming from a 90 Zx7 and this is simply so much fun. Take it to the track so you can rip all day. Yes I added a graves slip on, an air cleaned and the 2wheel reprogram but its for the track. My son as the twin 600 and this is just in a completely different class.
All that $ and it’s still a 400 lol I can’t go redline a brand new bike when I need to give it back in 20 mins dude
I can’t believe the USA version has 24 less horsepower than stock in other countries. Why would they possibly think that was a good idea?
We've been told it is for noise emissions. The throttle begins closing at 11,500 rpm. With a flash the power peak is around 14,500.
Have you watched motomadness and dbl? Maybe that's why.
Here in asia, we have 79 horsepower as stock.
Doesn't affect its Marketability in the US, they eat it up like cops in a doughnut shop
I might be the only one who beleives Kawasaki US nuked it to advertise as a beginner bike.
Kawasaki neutered the throttle near redline...Tuning/bolt-on mods will increase power from 50hp to 70-80hp.
Doesn't it already have 70 something hp, stock?
I think the US had it neutered a bit so it’s only hitting 50hp without an ECU flash
Nope, you have flash the U.S. models and even after that, it's still nowhere near 80 as they claim@@Hellbull89
I think it's stock like 70-75 hp and with the tune it gets around 96 at the crank, either way it's a massive gain and entirely mandatory if you own one
It's over 75+hp everywhere except in the US.
Im riding a 22 RC390 is this bike a good upgrade or better spend on inline 4 ss 600cc?
They are very different, so if you are looking for variety, it might be a bike for you. If you want to replace the 390, then maybe go first for some sort of twin. The power delivery is quite different going from 1 to 4 cylinders, especially at this engine size. Depending on 2hat you want your bike to do, this bike could be a perfect or horrible choice, so i cant say more
One small request... I know you try to go into these reviews with little information about the bike so there is no preconceived bias... but maybe consider familiarizing yourself with the controls ahead of time so we can see the features being utilized. Between this video and the ZX6R video it would be nice to see you use the quick shifter.
Na...I don't like to do that because if I can't figure it out right away, to me, it's a stupid design flaw.
@MotoJitsu it takes 2 seconds to activate if you know how to do it. Not realistic to expect yourself to know how to operate all features on all bikes you ride immediately. But agree to disagree. Love the content man.
On 95% of the bikes I ride, I can figure most things out very quickly.
I love mine, it’s my first bike though. If I lived in a place with big highways I’d probably get the ZX-6
With a $40 slip on exhaust, the bike just SCREAMS, so you can hear the sound without worrying about breaking speed limits too bad
It's under tunned in the US market, in other markets it's got more power than am MT-07. It depends on what you compare it to. If you compare it to other 400-500cc A2 bikes it' a rocket ship, if you compare it to 650-800cc then it's not that impressive mainly because of lack of torque, even though I bet it's a lot more fun to ride.
I think it’s over hyped for you young ones. But for old farts like me, it’s nostalgic 😄 Also it’s neutered in the US. Flash it and let it breathe a bit
I just got a 2024 ZX400RR and the brakes need scrubbing in, very weak at first but now work great, quickshifter up and down is the best shifting bike to date, stock the bike makes around 52-55 rear wheel hp and with a few mods get around 80 hp and with an experienced rider this bike will take down many bigger bikes with ease. This is not a beginner bike! A beginner can ride one but costs twice as much as a true beginner bike. Ergos are great for a sportbike and coming from a 2019 R1 you can ride this bike all day vs an hour or two painful ones on R1. Bike is huge fun and plan on trimming 20 lbs off it as it should have come stock, I don't think bike is overhyped as its one of the funnest bikes I have ever ridden and coming from owning many Ducatis and Aprilias the price is not bad for what you are getting😎
How’s the weight stripping going?
@@sahilmohammed8715 good already lost 9 lbs, Graves slip on, deleted footpegs, Superlite steel rear sprocket and carbon heel plates. Still going to get tail tidy and lithium battery and that should be around 15 lbs lost😎
Nice man!
Definitely based on what you prefer. I own a MT03 and had a z400. Ready to try my 1st sports bike. Picked it up a few days ago.I live in the country where I ride twisties and side streets. It’s going to be a blast.
Cool bike. Nice initial impression and commentary. I’d like to ride one. Greg didn’t really rev it out but I understand not abusing a bike that maybe hadn’t been broken in.
I agree it is too expensive for what it is. If you could do a review on CBR650R that would be great since it is often compared to this bike!
I have one(cbr650), great bike...but overpriced in my opinion. I bought mine used off of my neighbor. If you can get one used in great condition I'd go for it, I just wouldn't pay the retail as yes it's fun, engine is plenty smooth, power is fine and great on the road, just feel it's about 1500-2000k too much
Not every bike can be or has to be the fastest horse in the stable.
I like and have a curiosity on the variety of different mechanical designs.
One factor in the high rpm motors is a higher " average " power in the range used.
The ZX4rr is the smallest bike in the stable to break 130 Mph . ( 135 Mph at the moment )
i love you’re videos. remind me of my dad in a way haha. thanks for the content
Just seems like they priced it a bit too far out. I believe this should've been around $7k. As it stands, it's about $11.5k out the door, then you're gonna drop another $2k(full exhaust & ecu) on it for upgrades to get the power unlocked. Paying $13k for a 78hp ninja400 just doesn't seem like an optimal choice.
7k for a niche 400cc inline four engined supersport bike with decent suspension? HA!
I’ve noticed in your recent videos that the right review mirror has a sticker, why is that?
No idea
I have had an R3 for two years, what would be the best second bike? Would this be a good second bike?
Na you can probably go bigger like a 600 or 750. Especially if you were riding quite a bit in those 2 years
If you've actually practiced Moto Jitsu type drills for over 1000k miles you're probably ready for a 50-100hp if you can control your desire for speed.
Yes, great 2nd bike 👍
You do you sir. It keeps wannabes like myself happy, just for the heck of it.
Heck of $$$ that is sure, but makes my daily commute "imaginative". 🙃
I’m coming from a ninja 400 and got my deposit down on a 2024 40th anniversary edition. Did not want to jump into a 600 since insurance is a big hike and I could never use its full potential on the road. I’m after an inline 4 that i can high fun with and use most if all its potential.
I’m from the uk, I have to ride a 125 for a 1st time rider on the public road. So I got a 2024 ninja 125 it’s really good 1st bike they are so much fun still.
Maybe when I pass my full license I will get a ninja 650
I hope you got a garage, if you are living in london without one, you gonna heart broken at the insurance if they will even give it.
@@bearwolffish I live in wales and yes I have insurance 😊
Lol this is my first bike and i got it 4 days ago cause i know no better , but so far 34 miles on it and its been fun
For the price, I'm not sure why someone would get this instead of a low mileage 675r, zx6r, gsxr750, 660rs etc for less. Or if you just had to get something new, it would seem the R7, cbr650 etc would be better options.
having more money than sense is the only reason
holy shit how many comments are you going to leave on this video? This bike is living rent free in your head loool love it
You should test ride used bikes from dealers so you can ride in the powerband
I do
@@MotoJitsu have you had opportunity to ride a zx4rr that has been broken in and tuned? I understand the limitations of the stock bike in North America, but once uncorked and a few miles on it you might be pleasantly surprised.
Thank you Greg.
My only criticisms are the weight and the price. It’s the same weight and almost price as a 600. And half the power…
Actually have more fun on this than my zx10r. Haven't seen small cc inline 4's since the 90s!!!
Could you review the Ducati Supersport 950S? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!
nice review from korea!😀
It’s so small too. I’m 6 foot and it looks like a mini bike with me on it.
review the newer 2024 duke 390
it has adjustable.suspension
beautiful dash
not much movement room but still good enough
nice.brakes
I really, really appreciate your objectivity and honesty with this review!!! I dont care what anyone else says I ride a Chinese 300 and I cant understand all that hype amd technology on thsi bike.
What a strange price point, seems clearly made for the track but is there a big enough market for it?
i have one it makes 77hp with just a slip on love the bike
A “track-ready” 400…
All you need is a new exhaust, new map, new fairings, new tires, upgrade the brakes, get braided brake lines, etc… which is a lot of money to throw at a “track-ready” bike that costs $10k and is worse than a 600 super sport in every category. This bike makes absolutely no sense.
The european version is around 74 bhp.
What is this hp reduction in us.
moto jitsu that ninja looks sick
What i love with this bike is it screams like the zx25rr. I dont think much abt hp anyways.new subs here
At the 4 minutes i just realized he haven't rode the bikes for hundreds or a few months... Damn, people are experts now adays lol
Look forward to getting one of these 2nd hand in about 6-7 years time in good condition, as a local runaround/twisties. Definitely not worth it at these prices - looks great though.
I've watched these review videos so many times... If someone was to drop me in that dealership, I think I would be able to drive to that practice parking lot with my eyes close. And I've never been to that area :D
I don't care if it has 6 cylinders 10 grand for a 400cc bike is way too expensive.
David at Vcyclenut did all the work on my bike at his shop....all the way up by the Canadian border. He know his 💩, just watches his content to find out the truth.
I think you called it right.
What’s up with the brakes? A new bike especially a RR with bad brake feel? I never thought of the RR as a beginner bike. Maybe a good foundation for a track bike. But being a 400 still, you can definitely have fun throwing it in the turns. I see so many guys just going after straight line acceleration and never really get to what a bike is designed for: Twisty Fun.
Unless the rider is going to track rat weekend this bike there's very little reason to pay the same price over an R7 for sport street or CBR650R for relaxed street. The larger engines are just better for that stop and go and highway and you get larger rear tire and better brakes with both. No one needs a fancy rear shock or quickshifter for a 70hp bike on the street. The Honda is also a 4 Cylinder and reaches 12,000rpm.
This bike is absolutely fine for a beginner, it's completely gutless down low and does similar power to a ZX-4R until like 8000rpm where it actually starts building power. The only thing is that the price is ridiculous for a beginner if you're not confident in riding, again riders may as well step to a 650 for the price. I started on a new Honda 650 a few years ago which is more difficult, it had more power across the rev range completely and was much heavier. The SV650 is basically the same deal and people had/have no issues starting on that bike either.
In india its too expensive like 11 Lakhs almost.
I mean you could buy a really decent car.
Around $13,000 so it's $3000 more than the US price. Although yes considering Indian wages, this is a lot for there. You guys have KTMs and now the new RS457 though!
@@shahzebnasir4692 yeah far better than Yamaha R3 and Kawasaki's offerings
Can you test ride the new Kawasaki Z900SE pretty please :)
Stinks too, you pay about 11 grand out the door and you still have to flash it to get anywhere near the claimed 80hp which, from last I saw nobody got anywhere near that, the ones I saw were 74 at the most. Cool little bike, but I'd never pay that for one
I had a late 80's or early 90's Ninja 400 and Yam FZ 400. Both with carbs , no FI back then. They didn't get out of their own way till past 8000 rpm. 15 or 16,000 rpm redline.
The FZ 400 with stock pipe would pull away from the Ninja 400 with 4:1 pipe.
in my country we have the smaler displacement version of this and called ZX25RR. so people who want safe money buy 25RR and people who want high end 400cc buy 400RR.
I came back to tell you that I still have my eyes on the 400RR
hahahhahahaha there you are!
Bike is severely restricted in the US, to get past EPA.
Max on my bike was 122 mph ( stock )
With a pipe and flash ( mostly the flash ) it got 135 Mph in 5th gear and still wants to pull.
You Tube video of 135 Mph. after mods : ua-cam.com/video/Lops9pCJLL8/v-deo.htmlsi=hCuMcb8mr6p38xzm&t=19
This is less a review of the 4RR and more a glorified commercial for your channel, riding schools, and a book. You didn't even use the quickshifter once.
Was too boring to do anything else on it
@@MotoJitsu It's okay to say you forgot it was there dude.
I mentioned it in the beginning. It’s ok to say you didn’t listen to the whole video dude.
@@MotoJitsu My fault, I must've missed it. I hope you got to give it a try.
You really should do a little research on the bike that you're going to review, and then you would have known that this bike comes with a quick shifter up and down, which would have enabled you to demonstrate it for us during your demo ride.
Research my friend, research before you review.
Each tiny piston less than 100cc each aww😅 cute
As Indian with that price id rather Aprillia Rs457
Jitsu explains things waayyy more better than yammie noob and adobo moto put together! 🙌🏾
Holy crap, we have a test ride vid with a negative title, amazing!
"Technique is the most important thing over technology." That's wisdom!
Do a cbr650r review
They should have given us the ZX25R. Give me another 1000-1500rpm.
Bike is enough for beginner this model from kawasaki.
I do like the idea but 10k, probably 12-13k out the door I’d rather just get a zx6r
yea it's crazy priced for what you're getting
$10k for a bike with 58hp. It's competing with bikes like the R7, GSX-8S, Daytona 660, and Ninja 650, which all cost less while having more power, and the CBR650R and RS660, which cost a bit more, but have more power, and better tech.
I thing its perfect for a rider woh want a good sounding bike but also not with so mutch pover. So maby for one that came from a 125cc era
the whole point of it is for track, street on any bike is eventually lame
I don’t care. This will be my first bike. 💯
Every 400cc bike is overhyped, let's be honest.
You know everything about riding. You don't know anything about bikes. The Ninja 650 is with 67 HP at 8000 rpm. The 400RR is with 77HP at 14500. The 400 is much faster than the 650
It's not 77hp in us
@ even that the American version is boring. 56hp in 11500rpm is much more fun than the 650
@@eyalny I tend to agree with you. High revving note is much more fun.
unless you are a spec racer the 400rr makes no sense. you can get a 600 or even bigger for the same price.
I can’t understand how this can justify 10k