Vinland Saga Season 2 is Boring
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I've seen these exact comments every single week, on every single episode of Vinland Saga since Season 2 began airing. I figured it was time somebody addresses all of the negativity surrounding Vinland Saga's second season in a mature and understanding fashion. People are justified in their anger due to the abrupt change in pace, but they really still shouldn't be upset because this season pushes the story of Thorfinn forward in a the meaningful and emotionally significant way.
I must be a terrible chef because I keep forgetting to put the sauce within the video itself.
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Thorfinn from Vinland Saga Anime Season 2
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#vinlandsagaseason2 #vinlandsaga #thorfinn - Фільми й анімація
I'm not going to see the video, I just don't like the title. So dislike
Me 2 fuck this guy
I'm liking the video to offset this guy's dislike.
he me fr
Dude you should. He's trolling with the title. He actually praises season 2 the whole video
@@Kapppa you really had to put ai hoshinos measurement video at the last 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Need more anime/manga like vinland that gatekeeps itself from meatheads
There are manga like that it's just that with the rise of neets in Japan getting into the industry and only buying merch and stuff for those shows and the reduction in good studios ever since the 2008 financial crisis Japan has pushed less and less good shows.
Remember spice and wolf? that was a romance anime well done, intelligent dialogue, economics and other stuff, it never did that well exactly because of meatheads.
Also I hope for shows like Ergo Proxy, Serial Experiments Lain, Texhnolyze (etc). To also make a comeback, we need good psychologicals.
loss in viewership means cancelled show LOL at the rate its going, it is going to get cancelled. this show has killed so many of its fanbase its incredible
@@vadimnimarov8796 vinland sega is one of the big 3 seinen manga if you think it would get cancelled because meatheads stopped watching you are just being stupid
@@theguy8412 oooo ergo proxy and texhnolyze were so good.. i'd love reboots of them!
The second season is a masterpiece in storytelling and character development.
yeah but there it sacrifices plot for character development
The first season is a masterpiece in story(from Askaladd's POV) Character and Plot
Thought the characters went a bit overboard. Also season 2 is a master of cliffhangers with no climax. To me, makes it worse to watch each episodes...
masterpiece? get the f outta here. half of it was full of trashy arnheid scenes
@@xristoskoumpourlis1614 the plot is that torfin is trying to create a country without violence how the hell is this theme sacrificed because of torfin commiting to not be a killer anymore?
People tend to forget that killing Askellad was the only drive for Thorfinn. But after Askeladd died, he ofc felt empty cuz there’s no drive anymore and got depressed for not listening to his father and tried to better himself but didn’t knew how yet
You’re already more intelligent than 90% of this comment section
No, that was pretty obvious. The 2nd season sucks because the first 10 episodes are basically playing a farming simulator while Thorfinn deals with his PTSD over and over for an unreasonably long amount of time. We also get introduced to a bunch of new side characters we have never even heard of before and are expected to immediately be interested in them without any sort of buildup.
@@evion234 bruh
-1000 IQ anime fans when an anime asks them to pay attention more than 10 minutes without a subway surfers gameplay and 20 scene changes a minute
Thank you for recapping 24 episodes in 2 sentences. This whole season could've been a tweet.
And I don't know who do you think missed/forgot any of this shit, it's blatantly obvious and repeated over and over again.
The way I always described Thorfin in season 1 is that he was a side character in his own story.
Yea canute was a well developed charcter than thorfinn
Admit it. You never saw season 1.
@@MunchinOnDew it’s true tho💀
@@cziferr Then who was the main character?
Canute?
Askeladd?
@@MunchinOnDew technically yes, thorfinn was the main character, but it felt like he was just a side character in Askeladds story
My favorite part of Vinland Saga season two was when the old master took them fishing and when Thorfinn said he was empty, the master told him, “ then you can be filled with anything.”
including cu-
Yup that was great. Sounds very Buddhist.
@@Gamervidsman2000why
I liked the part where they worked on a farm and Torfin let himself get beat up.
Oh, wait, that was all of it.
@@Duhluzr21 and then the old man shot his hot load in him and filled him up
I genuinely didn't know people don't like the second season I'm absolutely loving it even more than the first
Edit: honestly wasn't expecting so many people to argue over a statement this is crazy
Only shonen fans. Its a fair complaint if they thought this was a kiddy show like my hero/demon slayer. Where there is a clear good side and clear bad side.
100% agree im loving this season
@@nullakjg767 still doesn't change the fact that is trash aot clear
@@imdrowning463 nah Vinland saga is my close second to aot
it's boring and shit, you don't need 16 episodes of character developement, you can do it in 3 and a half episodes, this is boring lol
Could you imagine if every time Thorfinn hoed some dirt, the camera would spin around him at 60 mph at a 60 fps demon-slayer-level sakuga animation
literally jizzed my pant
That's all they want. Vain stuff but not actual story or message
@@eagleleft qick gib me dopamine thats lasts 3 seconds instead of a good story that lasts forever. personally i blame capitalism fro making people this stupid and inpatient
😭
@@eagleleft thing is tho the story yall call a masterpiece is the most boring shite , i can fall a sleep so easly
wow, i actually feel bad for the people that dropped VS. genuinely some of the best writing i’ve seen in a long while. you can really see how terrible some people’s attention spans are if they call this show “boring”
@@freddyready8756 It's not filler. FIller is something put into a show to usually allow the manga release more content so its bs that doesnt matter. I'd love to see how horrible vinland saga would be if it went from the end of season 1 to what grown up Thorfinn with different ideals with new friends? Just accept that you cant watch something without nonstop action. Vinland saga isnt for you
@@freddyready8756 I disagree on stating it is filler content. Me and others all feel that the filler you're referring to actually set up proper motivations for the characters. I don't get how people want instant gratification on the story. It's like the people who only listen to music for the chorus. Kinda shallow way of appreciating media imo
@@freddyready8756 yeah, it's alot slower paced, but I dont think that's inherently bad, ya feel me? Watching anything with weekly releases is rough
i forced myself to watch like 12 eps and it was the most boring shite, trust me lil bro it aint abt attention span , its justinferior to what master piece szn 1 was
@@freddyready8756 have u not watched the recent eps they were 10/10
Just so you know. The animation team didn’t change. That’s why the motorcycles are still at the beginning. That’s their calling card.
I just find it kind of funny how they changed the print on the back of their jackets from WIT to Mappa.
Man I wish WIT could finish one project I am truly invested in - both AoT and VS were downgrades from the studio switch. AoT way moreso due to rushed production and an underprepared team, but VS seems to have lost some important people when it comes to storyboarding and directing.
Still a great series but it stings.
@@Hanfgurkenhasser "downgrades"
not only second cour of vinland season 2 looks better and more consistent than anything from season 1, but aot season 4 is also a cinematic masterpiece. wit went broke because of their terrible management and staff torture (hence why season 3 of aot was isekai quality apart from Imai and Ebisu scenes) and mappa came to save these shows
Yeah I'm confused. I thought most of the animations are by wit. Mappa only helped out in a few scenes.
@@meia1855 If I recall correctly, the majority of the team working on season 1 was basically just transferred over to Mappa, hence why the artstyle changes were kept to a minimum. So just a name change.
Oh and no Tetsuro Araki as director, hence no fancy swirly 3D camera movement in fights.
woke call
Ppl don’t realize how much of a masterpiece Vinland saga is 😭😭
sorry but it aint. at this rate this pathetic cartoon is going to get cancelled
@@vadimnimarov8796 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@vadimnimarov8796 lol
@@vadimnimarov8796 🗿
@@Daniel-tq3uqThis guy just likes edgy anime. Lol
People who only like season 1 are pretty much Thorkells.
Lol
So they're wrong for liking the show for what it was. Nice.
Nothing wrong with being a Thorkell🤷🏻♀️
season 2 is woke, dont cry
@@denverm7909 I’m not really a fan of season 2 but can you explain how it’s wöke? No hate just curious
It wasnt boring, but if i was ten years younger, maybe i would think that it was. I think its an anime for people who have experienced life for a good amount of time.
Also, i think Mappa did a fantastic job, it was brilliant on so many levels. Brilliant voice acting too.
Ive watched anime for 30 years and i can safely say that season 2 of vinland gets the masterworks award from me. I dont give a damn what anyone else says.
Stop it it’s garbage
It was boring
Let's not mix words it was very boring.
It was extremely boring.
Thank you, someone needed to say this, great take on this matter.
VS is the perfect example of a bait and switch scheme. Bait with the battle heavy prologue, switch to the introspective main story that they wanted to sell in the first place. If it started off as thorfinn, a slave who hates war, it would sell 2 copies.
Well the story would also be a lot weaker, not seeing the extent of Thorfinn’s violence. It’s more effective to show it up front. Why I have such a distaste for excessive flashbacks. If you can show it up front, it makes it more meaningful, as you have to put the pieces together yourself, intuitively.
I completely agree. I like the character dramas, but I started the show because I thought it was a Viking action series. I was really disappointed when it turned out to be a bait and switch for a character drama. And all I can think while watching season two is, “wouldn’t it be better if it was more like season one”
@@HankHill323 so did I. I was intrigued by the fact that historical fiction had made its way into anime but I feel in season 2 the less instances of action packed scenes made them more impactful. I've read the manga and I don't wanna spoil but I'll tell you this much that season 3 is gonna be the series at its peak.
This is literally the worst example of a bait & switch. A number of other shows have done better bait & switches than this waste of time.
"I just want more action"
In an interview the mangaka outright says this is exactly what he was worried about - the entire prologue is supposed to be a bait and switch, he is staunchly anti-violence
Gay
@@flockadelrey why do you insult someone who is not trying to voice a completely harmless opinion, did that make you feel good
@@flockadelrey i bet you dont even kiss your homies gn, fake friend
@@flockadelreynah violence is gay af, you’re literally touching another dude in order to make him scream and moan.
i think even in shows completely devoid of action, they manage to actually tell an interesting story. I've watched and read plenty of well written drama/slice of life shows and loved them, this is just boring to me.
Very little actually happens this season, even the "character devlopment" that happened was almost entirely off screen in between seasons. I actually think that would have been interesting to watch, but instead we just get the end result. Theres very little substance to this season, other than the message. Conveying that through three 2.5 hour movies worth of chopping trees, farming, staring at eachother, and flashbacks just aint it.
Even in S1 where there WAS violence there was plenty of character driven moments, calm moments, moments of just travelling even. Character development too. S1 followed the golden rule of "show, dont tell" whereas S2 immediately does a 180 and breaks that rule with constant exposition.
They got me emotional over some plants. The story pacing is a bit slow cause like every episode there is a damn flashback but still a great season. Seeing Thorfin mature as a character is great
i hate flashback episodes i skipp em, you can literally skipp this season and just watch a 5 min recap. Not really happen in this season, except canute is evil and thorfinn is like a shounen protagonist that dont like killing.
@@Coldskin1it’s not about what happens, it’s about how it happens. Not just in Vinland Saga, not just in anime. In all art, and in life as well. Saying that Thorfinn just grew some wheat is missing as much value as saying Thorfinn just fought Thorkell and won. It’s like saying the scream is just a creepy picture of a man. Vinland Saga gets the ‘how’ right.
@@Coldskin1How do you get canute is evil?
@@craigstephenson7676thorfinn wasn’t this cool character who could kill people and defy all expectations AND OMG SMALL MIDGET KILLS OVERCONFIDENT PERSON, from his perspective he was definitely completely and utterly depressed, it was hell for him, he didn’t even want to kill these people, he just wanted to kill askeladd, and he was insane, and then when askeladd died, he just didn’t have it in him anymore, he then went on a redemption arc, I don’t really like one aspect of season 2 ( first 10 episodes was just straight up sleeping) I waited 3 years for this, but I like the character development, season 3 is gonna be lit
Honestly the subtext in the first season may have been too subtle for some of the viewers. Although, in a way, vinland saga has accomplished its goal of immersing the viewer into the perspective of a child growing up around violence.
The prologue makes us see the world like thorfinn would. A place of prey and predators, where the strong take whatever they crave and the weak submit or perish. Being a death-delivering machine, like thorkell, is cool, exhilerating, admirable and, most importantly, in line with the "rules" of the world we have come to know.
As thorfinn has the proverbial rugg pulled out from underneath him, so do we experience the same lack of drive and exhileration that we have felt before. The animation and pace of the show now reflects overtly the actual themes of the show that had been subtext in the first season. In the same way thorfinn had subtly been reminded by thors of his real fight ("become a true warrior"), so were we reminded of the true nature and themes of this show throughout the first seasons excitement and action.
Honestly i wouldn't have been interested in this show, if these hints hadn't been around in the first season. For my part, this story transition is expected and very welcome. Shows like this were exactly the reason why i became interested in anime in the first place.
Sorry for the essay, but this is a show i'm quite passionate about and i felt the need to add my own two cents to the discussion.
lol subtle? first ep the strongest man we are aware of says "theres no one its okay to hurt". They straight up spell shit out and it still goes flying over peoples head. I think a lot of the people who watch it are probably still just kids expecting shonen and getting a seinen with deeper themes then whatever starwars/marvel kid stuff they are used to.
Wdym subtext, that's just straight up Text
Totally agree with you. You just spoke my heart out buddy
@@nullakjg767 thats your average anime "otaku" there, people who dont grasp a story for its deeper meaning but just stays with the battles and shit
@@nullakjg767 not really, i just want a story thats paced well, and this season completely failed at it. People who call S2 haters "vain" or "meatheads" as ive seen in this comment section forget S1 didnt exactly have gore and carnage at every corner either. It was filled with political intrigue, characters backstabbing eachother, entire episodes of just travelling across the country. And we fucking loved it.
Thorfinns character arc in S2 is something amazing, sure. But it also an incredibly simple one thats been done far better in other media, including the manga itself. It shouldnt take half a season, 3 feature length movies worth, to cover. People are complaining about the lack of action, but i think thats because they feel bored and think the action is an easy way to spice it up. Whats really boring them is the Godawful pacing.
I've been reading the manga and I could not put it down. This story absolutely does nothing but get better and better.
Animation has not worsened
The Cgi is being used way less frequently
The cinematography has also improved quite a lot
The staff is the same btw
its about making thorfinn weak, if it was an anime for some pussies, why didn't they just make him weak in season 1 too? they just didn't know what to do with him anymore so they came up with einar, another goofy ass side character
@@KAIJENKO you probably replied to the wrong comment
Also your whole argument is pretty non sensical
@datbigeditmachine that's one of the must dumbest and most ignorant arguments I've heard in my life 😅
Tbh with you I felt the animation was better, oh wait, it stayed the same it’s just that thorfinn is just a better character than in season 1 in season 1 he was still a child
@@KAIJENKO u saying bullshit
People will complain about Thorfinn getting soft, but graduate high school, suffer a quarter life crisis, and still not realize what this show is about
people were saying this during canute’s scenes in season 1 too ngl, some people clearly only watch for the fights, which is a shame, but luckily i think most people appreciate vinland saga for everything yukimara is trying to convey, and also the action will start ramping up again from the end of this arc onwards anyway
Season 1 Canute pre-transformation was almost as insufferable as season 1 Thorfinn tho ngl. In hindsight I don’t feel that way about him, but he was in the moment.
@@craigstephenson7676 I liked both S1 Canute (timid) and Thorfinn. As well as appreciate them more later.
I mean, people can just use Google to see what kind of series Vinland Saga is and who the author is and they'd have a pretty good idea as to the kind of story they're getting into. A story does not HAVE to have action sequences (which have become sort of the new fanservice to a lot of viewers) for it to be good or meaningful. Also, Vinland Saga does have action but it's not all there is and the action sequences are used to communicate a greater thematic point. They're not just flashy eyecandy to keep people watching.
The fact that people also say season 2 is just about farming as opposed to season 2 being about slavery (something the Vikings were known to engage in) is also telling. Thorfinn and Einar are SLAVES on a farm who are FORCED to work there because of the violence and wars perpetuated by the Vikings....the show in season 2 merely responsibly looks at the implications and consequences of all the violence from the point of view of those who are victims of violence, not from the perspective of those who engage in violence.
One should also judge a show by what it's actually aiming to do and how it does it and not judge it based on one's own (in this case somewhat misplaced) expectations. You're not judging the show that's in your head, you're judging the quality of the show that's actually on-screen. The show being an exploration of the virtue of (and necessity for) non-violence, it'd be odd if the main character were just a hate-filled, uncaring edgelord.
Bottom line: lots of people didn't actually seem to know what Vinland Saga was about or why people enjoy the manga and likely didn't know how to interpret what the first season showed them for 24 episodes and so now that it's become a bit clearer to them, a bunch of them are rejecting it...which is their loss tbh.
You're saying its not fair to have these wrong expectations and then call it a bad series.
But I fully expected this season to be about what it is - A depressed, lost Thorfinn finding new values and beliefs and realizing violence isn't the way - and STILL found it boring.
Two main reasons why I think its boring: Pacing and content.
1. Pacing: Its not that its slow, its just that theres not enough content per episode to make it seem interesting. It would be fine if this was the only issue but...
2. Content: The content in this season is pretty much the same every episode. "Violence bad, slavery bad, Thorfinn learn to accept your sins" It kinda just feels like the same thing every episode, on top of not having enough content per episode for it to feel engaging to the audience.
I still give it a 7/10 because I like the ideas and I like the new Thorfinn much more than the old. So I'm not a hater either.
@@norwa3518 Well, I don't find any of it boring so far because the secondary characters get a lot of time to shine and I find the nuance and realism of the situations the characters find themselves in fresh and fascinating. Also, the season is not over yet so I wouldn't write it off just yet if I were you...I don't have an issue with the pacing either, as I never had the impression that the show was dragging its feet or that we didn't get enough content per episode. I usually find that people say the episodes are over too quickly, which generally means that time flies by fast and that in turn shows that people are actually engaged in the story that is being told.
You get a good sense of the place and the people living there, which is important in order to care about them and that place as Canute plans to take it for himself...In terms of the content itself, I think my comment is self-explanatory: I enjoy historical fiction that manages to make its characters into real people, fleshes out its setting and treats its audience like adults whilst addressing themes like the virtue of non-violence within a violent setting. That, plus the excellent animation, voice acting, writing, soundtrack, directing, etc. make the show something truly special in my opinion.
Long one here... I love slower paced stuff, slice of life, etc. I definitely don't need violence or action. My favorite series of all time is LOTGH and that's 90% philosophizing and exposition. But Vinland Saga just...sucks to be honest. It being slower paced is fine if the story is still moving. But it isn't. The same conversations are had every episode. The same thoughts are portrayed every episode. It's just repetitive. It feels like a kids show pretending to be deep and philosophical.
Take episode 15, the one that just aired. From the twelfth minute to the twenty second (or half of the entire episode), was spent repeating conversations that have already been had two or three times already THIS season. There was absolutely nothing new in that entire conversation except for maybe Thorfinn saying he's afraid of Arnheid learning he is a warrior, so entertaining... On top of that, it's discussed with so little subtly that it's...cartoonishly cringe? Like, could they really not blend questions about war, slavery, and violence in a more natural way into the story without having two people literally sitting in a barn saying "How can we eliminate war and slavery?". In comparison to LOTGH, the same ideas and questions are brought up but they only reoccur under a different context and in response to new events. Yang's views on governmental structures doesn't really change much, but the events that unfold have him repeat the same questions and answers under drastically different contexts that explores those questions and answers from every possible angle. The problem with Vinland Saga is the same questions are asked when nothing has changed. We are just being told the same thing over and over again and unless you're a bloody monkey, it's predictable. It also is as deep as a puddle. They never actually intelligently dissect war and violence. (and I get it, he's an uneducated viking, but then we don't need to have the constant musings.) They have about as much of an understanding into the reasons behind war and violence as someone doing a journalism degree.
It's absolute drivel. Like, I understand what the entire point of colonizing Vinland is meant to be. I don't need a revelation about a land without war, and a scenic shot of a field of wheat, every two bloody episodes. I understand they're attempting to portray the fact Thorfinn is thinking about that promised land. But that works in a manga, not anime. Visual storytelling through slides does not, and should not, adapt into a full blown scene for each and every slide. You adapt the idea... The idea is that Thorfinn is thinking about Vinland. We DON'T need a thirty second panning of a field of wheat and him reading an essay EVERY time he thinks about Vinland. There are other ways to portray that to your audience.
I can understand people wanting a return to action and war here because the slow paced stuff is just extremely basic and poorly written/adapted in comparison. You CAN write pacifist characters without them seeming childish and ignorant but that's exactly what Thorfinn feels like. Rather than have him immediately and suddenly convert to pacifism because 'killing bad'. It would be far more entertaining and realistic for him to have an arc where he was violent out of nihilism instead of ignorance. Killing because he didn't believe life has much value, but the loss of revenge, and his memory of his father and his values, leads him to avoid violence as much as possible, while being equally as 'hollow' and depressed due to his complete and utter nihilism. Far more believable and entertaining, would lead to a lot more interesting events, interactions, and especially conversations, and it would be something that we haven't seen a million times before. (Yes, I know Thorfinn was a real person. But this is still fiction.) He would still kill people if the situation arose, but could convert into more hardline pacifism after losing his nihilistic ways.
Though the ten minute conversations would still have to include more than what was included in all the other ten minute conversation of this season.
@@pagatryx5451 the " conversations are repetitive and it didn’t add nothing new " point is false, Thorfinn never went into depth about his plans and his beliefs until episode 15. And the conversation is a big deal because we finally found out what Thorfinn has forgotten which is the name of the land,Vinland.
@@momame8258 But his plans weren't deep and could be entirely assumed or elaborated on previously given their length and repetitive nature. And, again, ten minutes to remember the name 'Vinland' after all the other moments concerning it prior this season is just bloody boring and it has nothing to do with the lack of blood and action. Doing it in two minutes would not sacrifice any important information whilst making the moment more impactful due to it being more condensed.
I'm going to give the source material the benefit of the doubt and just assume the anime isn't doing it much favors by adapting it directly rather than intelligently.
Season 2 is amazing. People just don't realise that the strongest point is the character writing and their interactions
And the interactions were boring. Lucky the manga is far ahead because without knowing it’ll get better I would have dropped the show.
Yeah they still could try to do it entertaining way
@@ttissari77 it was entertaining.
@@Jacaerys1 disagree
Season One: Jaw-dropping (read: expensive to produce) combat sequences. Excellent character development, including a whole ass character arc for Thorfinn from child to young adult. Many different settings (mountains, dark wintry forests, ocean, islands, historical locations, camps and cities, villages, etc), many different storylines and plots. Fast pacing, action packed. Thorfinn is a legendary fighter who is very exciting to watch.
Season Two: Jaw-dropping (read: YAWN) farming sequences. Decent character development for Einar, but not for Thorfinn. When season 2 began, Thorfinn was already a changed man from S1. His growth between seasons is not shown. The only development in S2 is he goes from depressed to not so depressed anymore. Two different settings: Farm and Town. Three plots (Farming to earn freedom, Arnheid/Gardar who are minimal side characters, and defending the farm). Slow pacing, drawn out conversations, excessive flashbacks and exposition, long holds on characters staring at each other, long and slow pans on scenery. Thorfinn is a defeated pacifist who somehow, without the anime actually showing it, has internalized his father's teachings about enemies (despite being surrounded by enemies).
Thorfinn uses violence against Snake to protect Gardar, a man we saw for like 5 minutes. But then he refuses to use violence to protect literally everyone else on the farm because "he has no enemies." KAY.
SEVEN episodes were devoted primarily to the melodrama surrounding the two minimal side characters Arnheid and Gardar. Arnheid's entire character is "Einar likes me but Ketil fu**s me." Gardar's entire character is "Must rescue Arnheid *dies immediately*". Seven. Episodes.
And: Season One had far more character progression and story than season two despite having FAR more combat sequences as well. How does that work? Well, they showed character progression through violence. It explored ethics, world views, and history through the lens of exciting combat. How does season two show it? Through introspection, dream sequences, and dialogue. It's a soap opera. Season one encapsulated the golden rule of "Show, Don't Tell," whereas season two violates that rule on a weekly basis.
But sure, okay. Let's call this a masterpiece of storytelling. Let's brush the terrible pacing and character inconsistencies under the rug.
People just don't understand good story telling anymore. I think tiktok and the MCU has rotted people's brains to a point where they can't just sit and comprehend what good story telling is anymore. This is one of the best character driven anime I've ever seen in my life. Try to understand the characters and why they are the way they are rather than simply wanting mindless action...there's several other anime out there to indulgence you if that is what you are looking for.
Why did you bring a stupid mcu
It’s the authors fault for creating a great action packed anime and then switching it this blend mess. If you actually think this is an improvement your in desperate need of a lobotomy.
Season 2 is what separates the boys the from the men
People complained about the first 13 episodes of s1 “its so slow but it starts to get gud”. Was always those slower episodes like the one about the family where the vikings come in and kill the village etc. Everyone will love s2 for its action in the second half of this season by the end of it and the whole farming simulator argument will be forgotten
Hell yeah it's gotten good
the show is almost over and its still a snooze fest
@@zshadxv2823 Nha man Just Na it's gotten better more emotional
You should just watch a video on all Vinland Saga mangas explained you'll see what I mean S2 is actually good and leading somewhere better
@@zshadxv2823 this weeks episode was a snooze fest with all the fighting? You might wanna just stick to one piece
@@n4ruto1k4 Hell, even One Piece isn't all about fighting. What I love the most about One Piece are the characters and the story it tells and less about the fights, though the fights are also entertaining. I can say the same about Vinland Saga as someone who absolutely loves both OP and VS.
I loved the first season, but something about the second season had me craving for more. It really delves deeper into thorfinn and his mindset regarding violence and the peace he so wishes to gain from not acting out with bloodshed. The people saying it’s boring will never understand what any of that means anyway so why waste our time trying to explain the story to them 😭🤷🏽♀️
The whole mindset thing felt to forced for me. Most of it didnt matter and could skip most of the scenes and the boring dialogue just to end the episodes on a cliffhanger. Very little was lost and felt like it was a waste of time and beating a dead horse, that anime likes to do.
well i feel the same that's why you need to watch it when the whole thing comes to an end
It doesn't delve deep at all. It's not deep. Why does he want peace? Because daddy.
That's 100% of it.
indeed
@@MunchinOnDewIf you believe that he was going peaceful mode just because of his dad you either didn't pay attention, or didn't find it interesting and didn't watch the season, which is fine if you didn't liked it.
This arc is what firmly put Vinland Saga in my top 5 manga, and I knew before Season 2 even started that a lot of people would drop it because they missed the point of the first season in relation to this season. Great video earned my sub.
Felt boring at first but got better and better and now I’m yearning for the new episodes to come out I feel like I’m enjoying it more than season 1
I think that season 2 is good for character development, but the story can be telled in like 10 episodes, there's so much waste of time, and it's boring
yea way too draagged out
Spastic adhd zoomer moment
@@VG_164 ok buddy
Agreed. Some of the episodes dragged out. Also for all these people saying our attention spans are to short, that is not true. There are plenty of non action anime and television shows that keep me invested. But when you go from an insanely action packed first season where we probably saw a couple thousand people die to only seeing 100 people die in the last 4 episodes it is going to feel boring.
Also I did not enjoy the new characters as much as the first season. I miss Thorfinn being a fearless little shit. I miss Ascalad. I miss the giant ogre dude. Ainer is good. Arnheid was fine and the old master was chill. But did not really care for Snake. And actually fast forwarded through some of the parts with Arnheid's Husband (Ragner I think his name was). They introduced him and then he died 4-6 episodes later. Which is fine, but they had like 4 flashback sequences with him in those 5 episodes to try and make us care about him, but I just did not. I felt like it was a side story that was put in simply to get Ainer and Thorfinn locked up.
All in all I was a little disappointed in season 2. Season 1 felt similar to 100 year war arc from Berserk. Thorfinn being Guts (trusting nothing but their blades). And Ascalad's mercenary army being the band of the hawk. I did not hate Season 2. But as I just watched both seasons in a couple weeks, it felt like Season 2 came to a complete stop for way to many episodes.
@@coltonpiper6156 it's Galdal not Ragnar.. I think that part is important because it is one of the turning point for thorfinn.
Ppl who say VS 2 isn’t boring are kids that never read any books, or engaged in any story other than anime.
You can have good character development without a boring ass story.
na the ppl that like vs2 boring ass 40 min drama shows.
It was a waste of time exactly.And why even put action tag in s2😂
Bro has reverse mindset and intelligence, how old are you😂
2:01 Of course people who complain about this arc is the one who has shounen character pic like goku or naruto etc😂.. those dudes just shut their brain off every time the show told you about the deep theme like love,violence,pacifism,slavery etc... And then turn their brain on again when the action happened in s1
Great video btw❤
Yah... there was a bit of a trend with those commenters' pfps but I decided not to throw shade at them lmao
You mean one piece not naruto** naruto is heavily story driven, one piece on the other hand is mostly shounentars. thats why you see 50 luffy pfps being mad over season 2 (i dont see any or many naruto at all)
@@north5100 i have seen every one piece fan like the series just having suprioirty complex that op is no 1.
I also like op a lot but Vinland is top 1 and op is not even inn top 10. And i am the person who follows op weekly waiting for spoilers about what secrets getting revealed next.
Op also have slavery and very dark stuff, its just overclouded by fun luffy does as he is a very positive guy.
Cant say about naruto though, that talk no jutsu, i never bought it in the first place or chasing his boyfriend sasuke for 500 ep.
@@north5100one piece > naruto
I loved seasons 1, and amounted Thorfin as just the guy that constantly screams. I loved season 2 until mid season. After that we spend half the season focused on one battle. That gets summarized into one episode and a conversation. I got to the point by episode 18, if I saw the main characters were talking, then I would just skip minutes ahead. And they would still be talking... The final episode was one I had wanted to see since season 1 started. Thorfins great return home at long long last. It was both realistic and yet a little disappointing. But I left it feeling fulfilled and happy this kid, now man, could finally find some happiness.
Yeah, I wrote this script around episode seven, and the second half definitely dragged on a bit. Still overall a good season.
@@Kapppa sounds like we may need to see a conclusion follow up. ;)
season 2 is when it separates boys from men
Saying poeple fell in love with Vinland saga s1 cause of the action and violence is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Just cause thorfinn didn’t have to much depth (which he did imo. The whole theme of askeladd saying everybody’s a slave to something, and throfinn being a slave to his vegenence, with no freedom.,),
but regardless, seeing how the themes where explored, like what love means, how as I said before everybody is a slave to something, (even askeladd in the end who thought he was the expection), and what a true warrior is, are the reasons most kept watching.
Any series can have action and gore, but do u really think that’s why s1 was so praised? Godamn that’s stupid my guy 💀
And he’ll nah, throfinn was a great character, as to what I discussed.
Sure, there was definitely much more to season 1 than its action, but you can't argue that the action wasn't a huge part of it success. It's not just the sakuga, but the amazing choreography helped pull people in at first (which I didn't mention vocally but instead in a note). I acknowledge the other drawing points. I just think that the action was paramount to Vinland's mainstream success.
I gotta hard disagree on Thorfinn being a likeable character before S2 though. He spent too long in his angsty teen phase. It does make his redemption sweeter, though, making him an overall good character. I said he wasn't likable. I didn't say he was a bad character.
this lame cartoon is going to be cancelled soon at the rate its going
@@vadimnimarov8796 Shut up
@@vadimnimarov8796 Calling it 'lame' solely shows lack of comprehence. But you're still entitled to dislike it. There is a lot of Shounen out there to enjoy instead.
@@vadimnimarov8796 spoke like true 13 year old.
kids anime demon slayer is airing watch that and leave this show alone, it doesnt need retards who dont know what seinen is
Everyone complaining about season 2 just had TikTok brain 😂
and an attention span of a toddler
him searching character development... also him having opened he*tai tab 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
cant believe no one noticed it
@@ericwilson9280 You did tho ;)
Thou hast unveiled the secret sauce
Ngl I stayed away from season 2 because I heard it wasn’t much fighting but after I just got done binge watching I have to say thorfinn is such a great character tears would come to my eyes whenever he would bring up who he used to be because look how far he’s come never thought I would feel this way over thorfinn and let’s not forget the OST which is just masterful giving every emotional scene the extra push it needs
"I don't dislike this show at all, I have no complaints with anything the harsh reality bears within its beautiful existence"
In season 1 Thorfin was already fighting Askeladd by episode 5. In season 2 Thorfin finally cleared every three from that farm land by episode 10 and that was the biggest thing that happened so far in that season.
That's one way to change the tone of your anime. Imagine if in Death Note the first 15 episodes were about Kira killing people and deceiving L and then the next 15 episodes are about Kira starting a life in the country side growing crops.
lol forreal that shits honestly sad how entertaining the 1 season was then season 2 was so fuckn horrible😂😂
@@luvnthunda don't get me wrong I still loved season 2, it was beautiful seeing my boy thorfin growing up. But the change of theme is abysmal
@@alexlun4464 ahhh hell nah I thought that shi was horrible but aye atleast u enjoyed it !
Just goes to to show you fcking muppets completely ignored the entire anti-violence message that Thors explained in the VERY FIRST EPISODE
@@alexlun4464yeah the theme change was jarring, it felt like a different story
People who say vinland saga s2 is boring only witched the show for action only , they will never understand the Preakness of this season , just because there is no fight doesn't mean its bad ,for me this season is better then season 1
I really like season 2 and the character development of Thorfin being able to let go of the hate and truly seeking what it means to be a warrior. This anime is more than just the action. It's the story that truly matters. I like how in depth they went on the topic about slavery and the social injustices. People need to realize this is not an action anime.
In the words of Dave Chapelle,” women just because your dressed that way doesn’t mean your a hoe, but you are wearing a hoes uniform. “ lol people keep saying it’s not an action anime but god damn did it have me convinced lol
@@clos975 i guess you're right! A lot of shounen fans digged the first season and went the other way on the second one but the seinen fans stayed lol
This series could be divided into 3 parts:
- part 1 is the story of violence and revenge
- part 2 is about regret and transformation
- part 3 is the story of redemption
Vinland Saga to me is among the best pieces of fiction ever created. The show is not about who is weak and who is strong, or who won and who lost. If you find it boring, maybe give it some time, come back and watch it after you're over the age of 23. I feel bad for people who cannot see its beauty.
0:27 the loud "THORFINN" had me dying 💀
Just finished watching the 18th episode and that’s shit fr made me cry like cmon gardar lost his women and child over his own pride and was a slave for 5 years without ever knowing what happened to his wife n baby, after those 5 years a slave he went ape shit killed the master and suddenly runs into his wife also being a slave and at the end the wife knew he was dying and still chose to escape with him for his last moments of life and lies that his kid is alive and with his brother and now they’re suddenly gonna live happily ever after but no he dies with atleast a false sense of hope and his wife never even escapes they got her ass , I was. Like 😢
I just watched that episode and I did in fact cry. I was so upset 😭🥺
I was just annoyed by the whole Arnheid story. They wanted it to be an emotional story but it just annoyed the shit out of me. enough of that bi** I hope she in anoyingheim or something
Judge it only when it’s finished. ❤ don’t jump the gun in anything in life.
I really loved season 2 because it not only brought new characters but made thorfinn find himself i actually cried in the last episode
I don't know how people like the second season. First one was hit but the second has disappointed me so much expecting more from season 3.
Never read a manga before until I caught up to season 2 of the anime and I couldn't wait for the next episode to come out so I decided to start reading it and it's actually 🔥 how the story progresses 💯
I have no enemies
- 🗿
Where to find the manga?
I'm really surprised people forget that segment in season 1 where Thorfinn is limping and he clearly says that he's disgusted by all the joy the soliders take in killing and destroying people's lives.
The story of season 2 is the culmination of what happened in season 1. It breaks down Thorfinns character and slowly pieces him back together as a stronger and kinder person. And we still haven't even gotten to the best part of Thorfinns character arc in the story at this point in the anime
my main complaint is that it doesnt do any of that. all that "character development" is just him recovering from PTSD, he's already undergone that radical change in between season.
It would have been so much more entertaining to see that petulant angry child become introspective and gradually change into the haunted man we see in the second season. Instead we get around 13 episodes of farming, cutting down trees, drawn out sequences of people staring at eachother, and flashbacks.
Thats 3 feature length movies worth of basically nothing. People complain about the lack of action, but in my eyes thats because they see it as an easy fix to the season just being plain boring. Whats REALLY bothering them is the horrendous pacing. Ive watched plenty of slice of life/drama shows that technically "go nowhere" the entire time. they manage to do what this season failed to do though, and actually entertained in one way or another.
@@declancampbell1277 bro are u that dense watch the last episode u didnt see how lost and empty he was?
@@FighTThePower. yet he could still laugh and smile he wasn't empty at all and if anything the mc wants to feel that way
@@Zellaaaaaaaaaaa no he couldn't wtf are u watching? I'm talking about S1 thorfin
I absolutely love the second season, people are just seriously missing the point also MAPA has been doing an amazing job at all their show recently
Is it that violence is bad? Or that violence is bad? Is it also maybe that violence is bad?
Repeating the same message and realising it, is not missing the point lol. Nor is it a new perspective.
@@Mikkeru cope
@@Mikkeru Yeah buddy its called having an overarching "THEME".
I already said once that the whole story in the Saga is not about the Vikings of the 11th century - it is about the Japanese from the 21st century, Yukimura wrote about himself. While he wrote about himself in Planetes, it worked, because the future, advanced society, high morals, etc. And even there, he still told a story about certain people, and not directly about his beloved self. In Saga it looks frankly wild.
I have no problem with thorfinn not being a total psycho and a killer anymore. But watching him farm as a slave for 20 some episodes wasn’t it.
Everyone who says that season 2 is boring doesn't understand anything about it.
real
It for sure is a different season but they skipped some time forward and building upon new characters and we see more of a different side of that time and aspect of life. So far i do like this season it builds strong on new characters and development of old ones while setting everything up nicely for all that comes next. If you want constant action with no substance just go watch a Marvel movie or ride a themepark attraction is my oppinion if people quit watching over this season.
Right 😂
I'd read the manga, and I didn't bother catching up watching all of S1 but I am following S2, so I'll talk about the way I felt when reading it
I felt like the change was a bit abrupt. I totally understood that Thorfinn needed to change and what kind of charachetr he would turn out to be more or less, unless he'd end up saying fuck u to all his father's teachings that is, but since I'd heard about how good the series was I knew that what i just said wouldn't happen, or else the story would be ass and the praises wouldn't exist in the first place.
That said, I really really liked the action in the manga, ik S1 animated the stuff greatly but It was already great to begin with, and i honestly kinda liked the ruthless broken fighter boy, although his charachetr was dull.
So what I hoped for was for a more gradual change, accompanied by some action battling leading into a reverie of his, and instead we got the very slow farmland arc, and I appreciated it less than I should've, cause looking back at it it makes the most sense for Thorfinn's charachter development to happen after his will is broken through slavery rather than just dishing out some battle scenes and then him changing to a pacifist. And I'm happy that I've been keeping up with S2 cause it's making me love that arc much more
very nice way of seeing it, and if you feel this way about the season i suggest you read the manga, I know this is repetitive but you have the right mindset to enjoy the story in my opinion
It's so funny because when Askeladd died at the end of Season 1, I was convinced that this was it. The show has nowhere to go from here, really. I said to myself "not gonna watch S2 when it comes out" and left it at that.
Thank god I changed my mind, the slower pace and great cast of characters makes S2 even better than S1 in my opinion.
S1 is basically just a 24 ep setup for some truly amazing character development. A bold choice but man did it pay off.
People think S2 is boring? Wait till they see S3; it's just Thorfinn tryna tolerate everyone testing him.
The second season is good. I am worried that after all this build up nothing major will happen though, If nothing comes crashing down i most likely wont be sticking around for a 3rd season.
This Anime was initially a bloody action fest so it is perfectly reasonable to expect that the majority of people who enjoyed the 1st season are turned off from this anime.
They think this is some kind of naruto bullshit with thorfinn conquering and becoming king of the world by winning wars single handedly.
@@mandyhiman436 Bruh they literally set an expectation. If it's so character dialogue driven with a deep and meaningful story, it would only really work as a live action. Anime as a medium doesn't work super well with all this drama stuff unless it's super well done and in movie form, like "Your Name" for example. There has to be some danger, goal, sense of adventure, conflict of some sort or something that keeps the story interesting. Stories are generally driven by the protagonist having a goal and having to overcome internal but also external obstacles to reach this goal. In season 1 that was to kill askeladd. Which was far more entertaining than purely an internal struggle of dealing with trauma.
@@boomernality1904 drama isn't good to show in anime. Bruhh every good story has drama. You wouldn't notice but every good anime arc has some drama.
For eg hxh chimera ant arc it has more drama that matters then fight. The end of meurem was painful and thankful also as he was too powerful.
@@mandyhiman436 My point is that there has to be balance. Obviously there needs to be drama, but it can't only be drama especially as the philosophies the show talks about aren't that deep. Or done in an interesting way. I'm sure as a manga it's fine, that's different, but if they came out with stuff like this for season 1 they wouldn't even get a S2 and you know it.
@@boomernality1904 you mean by balance is show action. In that case monster must be extremely bad by your opinion.
The genre and story by far vinland exceed easily fmab series. It's always about journey and thorfinn has better journey .
24 episodes to show what could have been done in 5 is ridiculous. Its just too dragged out and 12 episodes felt like 1 long episode session 1 Was way better paced and it should have been longer. But in season 2 I have to Force myself to pay attention to all the s*** going on on a f****** farm.
You say that but I’m impressed at how efficiently and well Thorfinn developed in only 9 episodes (2 of which he wasn’t even there for) without it feeling rushed. It’s slow paced in terms of plot, but definitely not for character.
Season 2 sacrifices a bit of animation in exchange for way better art. Season 2 visuals go crazy
I can agree with that for the most part. I generally prefer the better animation though.
@@Kapppa you should’ve waited for the most recent episode to come out before commenting that 😅
From what i remember the animation didnt decrease but the composition and art style increased as I dont remember any notable parts of animation besides arifumi imais cut
This man reforged himself. Lots lip service self betterment, last bout as long as a new years resolution. To change your world view, character and instincts... only Buddha and thorfinn come to my mind...
It is boring. This clichéd “character development” isn’t really development at all. Thorfinn gave up, he grew complacent because he could do nothing. He was put into a situation where he could not redeem himself, so he chose a different route. An action anime turned some sort of pathetic humanistic, philanthropic type ordeal. It’s a complete flip, and it’s entirely boring.
I can't comprehend how some people can't enjoy a show without violence. There's still constant conflict, but not physically. Vinland Saga is becoming one of my favorite shows because of all the scenes not focusing on fights.
I'm pretty sure these people who complain are either 12-15 years old or they are manchilds who have never tasted the beauty of good writing
szn 1 wasnt even all action , violence isnt the rzn szn 2 is ass comapred to szn 1
@@zshadxv2823 What is it then? Genuinely asking
@@zshadxv2823 you don't enjoy the mental struggles of Thorfinn and the other prominent characters or? I'm curious as well
You sound like a 60 year old teacher that hates when kids do any form of "bonding"
"Not everyone can change overnight like canut"
Thorfin got hit on the head with a shovel and woke up 5 minutes later as a completely different person. Stop the cap.
Just finished the second season , at the beginning I was skeptical about the change from the season one, and I continue thinking that the first 10 episodes at least , are really empty … but the after that you can finally see how amazing is this second series ! My 2 cents
Vinland saga was always antiwar, anticolonial and anti capitalist. Like it showed war to be brutal and not desirable. The most admired character of season 1 literally said a real warrior doesn't need a weapon. It was there from episode 1
It’s crazy seeing how many people that don’t see the nuance of what season 2 brings. Vinland Saga is a story about discovering what a true warrior is and the redemption of the son of Thors. What the story tells us is that a true warrior that is strong has no need for violence or a sword. What makes a true warrior strong is their lack of dependency of weapons to live meaningful life. Throughout the later story and season 2 there are many instances in which violence and blood are the easier option and would seem like the ideal choice. Thorfinn didn’t need to take the 100 punches but the fact he did made him strong. He won without the use of a weapons or violence even though he could’ve easily done so. From then on he uses his strength to build a new nation to help those who live in pain from the violence of war he use to participate in. The character development and the message throughout the series makes this story special. Even though it is an almost complete 180 it’s still compelling. For those reasons.
But if you like action it’s fine. Ur just not a true warrior.
I felt inspired when they were chopping down the last tree. Love vinland saga . Waiting for a week is only issue i have.
The more I watch it, the less I mind waiting. And it’s not because I’m losing interest. I just know it’ll be there soon enough.
mid shonen watchers being clown
mid shounen niggas when they dont got shit blowing up every 2 seconds in their anime= automatically trash and slow paced but they dont know what a single good example of good storytelling and good seinen is
It is a scam. They hook the audience with cool, bad as$ characters, and then switch it to a hippie fest.
It's fair not to like the second half as it's very different from the first half and feel like almost two different genres so if your not a fan of the slower paced season two then that's fine and normal. But it's not really a flaw I mean the first half was showing thorfinns decent into rage violence and revenge. Season 2 is him recovering
@@thefarmer6541 Ye season 2 I guess is just part of the process in the development for the entire vinland saga story. I kinda found this season to be a little boring but I still stuck with it and watched everything after all the episodes came out.
Are you stupid 😊
Bro you dropped this 🍼
I agree Thorfinn I didn't like in season 1 but the same is true for season 2. This character development could've been done in a lot fewer episodes. Plus the message of a true warrior is wrong. The message in season 2 is slightly skewed to the wrong message. Season 2 is lame and boring. I don't need 15 episodes for him doing nothing.
It still don't change that fact the the new season is indeed worse and more boring than the last one. It is their opinion, if you have a problem then get in the cage and fight with them.
but I can't I have no enemies
Vinland saga is all about that "you have no enemies" thing, and to those young teen who got mistreated, abused, seeking edgy anime like op character, loser got lucky and gets bunch of girls for comfort, with the only source of dopamine is the insufferable thirst for fapping to porn. To them, peace is the last thing they seek.
I get why the author did what he did. It's a story of how a monster becomes a man (Thorfinn) and a man becomes a monster (Canute). The first season is just laying the foundation. It is a beautiful story. Season 2 it's a wonderful work of character development that is almost unparalleled in modern anime
tiktok adhd mfs when the story isnt just flashy fights with no real meaning
The worst part is the horrendous pacing
Necessary story points can be pushed without hammering the same point more than 5 times. 2 times is acceptable
Not gonna lie but season 2 is so good man yeah season 1 was good but man season 2 takes everything into another level from character development ,story ,love ,friendship everything was far better in season 2 compared to 1.
I also thought for first ten episodes that it was boring but then I realised that was cuz of my expectations, generally speaking it should have gotten action intensive instead it went on a complete new arc. They just presented a most beautiful philosophical lesson in the best possible way. It was indeed a masterpiece.
Season 2 would be perfect with just a little more action. I needed more thorgill and atleast one thorkell bloodbath. I’m genuinely happy for thorfinn tho peak character development.
I mean shit it could end with both of those so I’ll just wait n see.
@@BigR62 Idk man season 1 was really action packed I don't think it is possible for season 2 to of had near as much action with the character development being the main focus of the show now like season ones plot revolved around nothing but fighting. Season 2 is just boring
@@Zellaaaaaaaaaaait's not boring it's just not the thing you were expecting, which is fair it really is a completely different storytelling style. But at the end of the day it's not a shonen anime it's a seinen
@@ZHibikiI just wish there was an episode where thorfinn goes from a murder little rage shitling to realizing that his life is going to be “wake up work eat, sleep”
Season 2 is where the true story of VINLAND saga begins. Learning how to find and create your own Vinland in a world ravaged by war.
learn how to create your vinland saga🤡
its just common sense a run to a diffrent island, not confront the king unarmed like a dumb ass like thorfin in episode 21. If he weren't main character his ass would be dead
The main reason I really liked season one was because of Thors and all the philosophical character growth, so season two and when he FINALLY realized and said “I have no enemies” it was so satisfying for me
I understand the concept of Vinland saga 2 but when the development is put on so thick that me and wife called thorfin as viking jesus. Honestly im one of those people that enjoy season 1 because of the senseless fighting but the 2nd season felt like a complete shift away. We always knew that the ending will be like some sort of redemption arc but the slowness and having to endure several episodes of the characters just taking abuse is just depressing. I understand that there are different people that enjoy different genre that why we have it. In conclusion, Vinland saga 2 is not bad just not my cup just like how I hate attack on titan but other people are to free to choose what they like.
I liked both Seasons a lot. And I agree with pretty much everything said in the video. The difference between seasons is jarring, sure. But season 2 might be the most beautiful redemption story I've ever seen told in the anime medium except maybe Prince Zuko.
S1 = Villain Arc, S2 = I have no Enemies arc. It's a beautiful story about change. Very disappointed in people who dropped it because it was "boring".
Maybe because it IS fkng boring.
@@odinlordofasgard9748I got mad when he apologized to the king he stole his kill I wouldn’t apologize
I love it so much please make a post about this vidd like you did with ONIMAI. I want more people to see that
Season 2 was almost unbearable so sad about how horrible it was.
All the side stories felt like fillers. Most people probably signed up to watch what happened to Thorfinn, not the long and boring side character developments.
Well then I guess season 1 would also be ass because Thorfinn's "development" (there's literally none) was completely sidelined by Canute and Askeladd's. All he did were side quests for Askeladd the entire season.
People knew shit was going to be slower and still got mad that it was slower
The second season is one emotional ride, man, you feel every episode.. it is heartbreaking, and sometimes overwhelming due to how cold, and heartless, it can be.
@@Manhwa-Guy1 I've seen this alot but why does everyone seem to hate Arnheid?
bro you're just riding the wave of popular support that came with the shift of the story in vinland saga. people dont overwhelmingly hate it or miss season one
You can think whatever you want of me but every single one of those comments is legit and they were not hard to find. But yes, I do think the major shift in tone is a great talking point. And yes, I'm talking about currently relevant anime lol. That's the name of the game.
That being said, I did not tell single lie in this video The feelings expressed are genuine. I think the video turned out amazing, but I am always open to criticism.
@@Kapppa yes of course those comments were legit, but they are NOT proportionate to the amount of support it received. as far as im concerned this is just attention seeking and repeating what everyone else has said. nobody needed you to address this
@@couldbeanybody2508 I have seen way more negative comments then positive ones. You can pretend all you want that the show is loved by all but it clearly isn't. The show has flaws and is no longer the good story telling show with action it once was. The only people I see that still like the show read the manga and where aware the direction of the show was going to take. In season one everyone was aware of how violence was bad but it still gave character development and quick paced episode the current season is a snail pace in comparison.
1:35 not only that. In Season 2, the animation in non-fight scenes is very VERY much worse than in Season 1. Yes there are less fight scenes. But even then when you compare the "chill" scenes in Season one with the chill scenes in Season 2... well... it's taken a huge HUGE dip
vinland saga was never meant to be about Viking story but Thorfinn n his journey. not to mention Thorfinn himself n the story are basically the fictionalization of the actual real Thorfinn n Vinland Saga story
I'm definitely not a fan of season 2's slow burn, but it was still an excellent story. The part in the finale when Thorfin sees his younger self almost made me tear up a bit. The way he looks on across the water as one who's found purpose and healed his inner child.
S1 was about making violence look cool since you view the story from Thorfinn's pov whose life's purpose is revenge.
S2 is about the consequences of said violence.
great video wished the people who complain could understand the show to its fullest not just another killing show
People do understand the show and just think its bad pacing with a boring plot.
@@poekpally Based off most the comments I've read? They don't get it. The whole message is about embracing non violence and using that to broaden your perspective and sense of empathy in a world to change people rather than alienate them, as that just continues the cycle of violence. Most the comments not liking it are from people who think this is a shonen even though it's never, ever fit into the shonen genre. (No power system, no protagonist rivalry, no evil organization, or op abilities that get stronger just because)By genre, this is a seinen where the whooooole point is the long term goals and struggles of the individual characters. Do people have to like it? Definitely not, but so many people complaining miss the point entirely. A show about not embracing violence....doesn't have violence!?!? Oh noooo!!!!
@@LifeandrootbeerI could done without a whole arc of them farming. I’ve read the manga, this arc was by far the most boring.
@@poekpally spotted the dopamine fiend. go watch marvel movies or some shit youl get your quick fix without substance there and you dont have to think about themes and hurt your brain kay
@@Jacaerys1 pointless arguing with an butthurt fanboy
Go watch your anime where the protagonist says he never gives up and wins at the end with plot armor and power ups …your lizard brains are not meant for shows like vinland saga where philosophy and complexity of life is portrayed
The Story is telling you that violence is bad. But meetheads still complaining that there is not enough violence. Bruh wtf you were watching in first season?!
Vinland saga s2 is a trash farming simulator😊
God, I loved season 2 so much! Absolutely amazing story building, character building and world building!