The great thing of this machine is that it is NOT an 808/909 but does something different. We need more stuff like this for percussion. We can't always live in the 808/909 world. There is so much more
Totally agree with you, WE eat 909 drums since 30 ans, all what is possible to do with the Roland had been made and thx to Erica synth for purpose us a machine who can creating hard style kicks without many multi effects for making music more real kicks, i can't ear thé 909 techno kicks or electribe sounds ! For sure, m'y next toy ASAP 😂
I'd love to have this, I really would. Only I can't justify the price. I'm hoping behringer bring a clone out sometime soon, you know what they are like 😂
Thanks for doing Justice I'm a professional Sound Designer and you sold the Perkons to me. I'm working on a techno production suite next and literally the vibe you create is like no other!
You nailed it "it's just so fun to play with". I couldn't have summarized this machine better. That's the key for me, being excited to explore every time I turn it on.
Thanks DM. Very cool video and so great to see that you have done your deep diving with this beautiful instrument. Super ideas kicking around and you passed some inspiration on to me today. Much appreciated!
Thanks Daniel ! Yeah that really made all the difference for me. Can really process it and almost create additional voices that way when touted through some heavy delays or other creative effects.
Thanks ! Posted a dual Perkons jam a few months ago :). More definitely to come as perkons is an important part of a project I’m working on together with another producer. Stay tuned :)
What a beast! And superb demo. Really nice those drones and that fat kick. And also - as a bonus - a new word "Twiggle the Knobs", I guess tweak and wiggle combined. Nice one!
I recently picked up a Perkons and this has really inspired me to dig deeper with it. Thank you! I'm definitely keen for more Perkons videos, such as using it as drone machine, melody machine, etc.
@@Davemech Indeed! Loving Perkons and Erica stuff in general. I feel Perkons is a great compliment to some of my Elektron boxes like Digitakt, A4, Digitone. I really need to explore the fx loops further though.
I really love what you are doing with the Perkons. With the Perkons I wasn‘t sure until I have seen your video. I really have to buy this awesome instrument and hopefully get in touch with it like you and get the same inspirations.
Thanks for the kind words ! Once you get to know the details and things start to become common ground (which algo does what etc.), it’s very easy to get into a flow state 👍
Loved that made me turn on mine. I liked the fact you were using the different voices for different things . For eg voice 2 as kick drum instead of voice one . I was approaching mine to traditional. Now you have opened up my mind to more experimentation. Thank you!
You just saved me 3k and helped make my decision. I love black system ii for its drones and the perkons for percussion. But you just showcased Perkons doing everything. I'll be buying one soon 👍
My favorite piece of gear by far. You can produce whole tracks on this alone if used thoughtfully/creatively. Very easy to learn. Such an authentic sound! GO BUY ONE!
@Davemech what's the name of the yellow and red units next to the HD-01? Just love the droning sound around 19:30 etc. which is just awesome and very inspiring.
@@Davemech thanks; quite interesting with the semi-inserted audio connectors to the OTO machines. It reminds me of a internal quirk of the Roland JD-800 synthesizer (that I used back in the 90s), where you could get some truly unique metallic sounds the fx modules if you basically overloaded everything and turned the volume of the JD-800 way way way down .. and then simply by navigating the fx menus with the knobs, the internal signals created these wonderful harmonics. As for the audio routing of the setup in the video, sorry for asking, but could you please check if I'm getting it right? HD-01 main output to Raindrops, Raindrops output to OTO red, OTO red outputs to OTO yellow HD-01 osc1 output to Raindrops HD-01 osc4 output to OTO red OTO red to mixer I'm considering starting getting into techno production again, but never left the scene since the early 90s. Your content is highly appreciated.
Thank you so much. to me, this video is almost perfectly executed! it helps me a lot in my process of decision making. Can you please add information about the routing (i.e. Voice 1 and 4 into rain drops -> mixer and also for the OTOs you used? which mixer did you use?)
Hands down best demo of Perkons I e seen. You’re doing stuff that I didn’t think possible with the drones. Like you I’ve been experimenting with individual efx pedals to the individual voices but i have couple of questions to your setup: 1) how come your not going Send and Return to an EFX pedal? 2) where does the send master (black/white cable on right) go to? Thank you for a great video!
Thank you! :) 1) because I use stereo fx and the send and return are mono. So sending out to a stereo effect adds stereo width. Additionally it gives me a way to mix the effected part of the signal separately. 2) that’s the master out which is going into my mixing desk (SSL big six). Same for the outputs of the effect pedals. Cheers!
thanks so much for this demo, particularly as a techno producer. all the "synth tubers" out there just creating directionless button masher rubbish that doesn't give me a true idea of what this is capable of.
Hey mate great video, the 'control all bug' isn't a bug at all, its in the manual, hold down shift at any point while playing and all of the voices adjust their corresponding pots. Its an awesome feature, try bring the decay down while holding shift next time you have a busy beat going on.
I honestly love this thing so much. I’m tempted to sell literally all my other hardware music equipment and getting just this instead. I can then start a synth collection again from scratch with this as the main piece. It’s a difficult decision as I love some of my equipment (TR8s, JU06a, Sh01a, tb03) Boutiques. But the money from that, and maybe a couple camera lenses and I’d have enough for one of these. It’s so tempting! It’s instantly Techno. How does it interact with other instruments? Deffo keen for more jams featuring this bad boy!
Cheers ! More jams will definitely come. Been working on a new setup with perkons and will show it soon. That’s a lot of gear that you’ll sell though. Perkons is awesome but be sure you can try one out before getting rid of gear that you love. Sometimes a new shiny thing can blind us from the fact that we already have what we need ;)
hey dave mooi werk op de perkons daar ! klein technisch vraagje , hoe breed is de perkons zonder de zijpanelen? De wachttijd op mijn toestel is 5 weken . Wil al een kastje maken...
Amazing video and jam! I saw you used Perkons also live in a club. Curious how does it sound on a big sound system compared to other drum machines/samplers you have?
Thanks ! ❤️ It sounds great and beefy on a big system. That’s for sure. I can’t really compare it to other instruments as there are too many factors at play. With samplers it depends on your samples for starters. I can make all instruments sound equally shitty or great really. Just a matter of dialing in what you love to hear. Sorry for this non-answer 🤷♂️
this would be so much fun to use in a live setting! A bit more limited than some drum synths like Elektron and Jomox but I already have tons if gear to use as supplement. Most dance music only uses 4 drum voices anyways with kick, snare, clap and high hats for 99% of techno stuff and you would want a good bass synth voice and melodic voice to add to it. So I would use a Perkons with my Virus or small modular system. How is the MIDI clock and sync with the Perkons? Does it do a good job working with other synths? I'd like to see a video on that area.
Thanks ❤️ To be fair, with Elektron stuff it’s really possible to create as big a sound as you want. Certainly with the samplers, you can put in any sample and further shape the sounds. So I wouldn’t say this sounds fuller per se. The thing is that it’s much more narrow and focused on a positive sense. So the sounds really blend well and the overal sound signature is indeed quite warm and nice right out of the box. With Elektron stuff often you need to work a bit harder :) but then you get a lot more flexibility and sound design options in return.
I had quite a few Elektrons including the awesome Machinedrum UW. I think they have a certain recognizable sound which you like or you don't like. Always a tad on the clinical side. This sounds very different I think. Love it. Thanks.@@Davemech
@@larbgai75 ah yeah they can sound a bit like that but you can definitely break loose of that and make them sound as gnarly, broken and heavy l as you’d want. Takes a bit more work though :)
@@Davemech I would have to disagree:) Even in your vid with the fantastic Oto Boum at the end I recognize that sound immediately, but anyway each his own.
Great stuff! For the new push/perkons setup do you do your mastering ITB through Ableton or through analog heat/oto boum? Can't wait to see more of that!
Thanks Dave super good jam! Learnt heaps to. Just ordered a Perkons yesterday and this is 120% confirmation it's the right choice. Choice of pedals? I see you have 2 x OTOs and RAIND-ROPS. I have no mixer :-( so was thinking the OTO BeBe Cherie on mixer duties (or there a better option?) and then the BOUM and BAM? This is such a creative instrument - mind blowingly good!
Thank you ! If you go for Bebe cherie, very cool mixer, I’d skip the oto boum for now as Bebe can cover some of that really. Bam is a beautifully vibey reverb and maybe a delay. Raindrops is certainly nice. Bebe cherie has 1 “send” by using the mute/alt out function. So you could use a delay on that for example and then one of the perkons voices through the BaM :). You could also start with a simple 4 to 6 mono track mixer to see if that suits you and then slowly add to it with fx and eventually exchange it for a mixer that will suit your needs. Sometimes it’s better to start with some basics to find out what you’re looking for :) hope this helps ! Cheers
@@Davemech Yes Im using TS cables. Tried On Voices outputs, sends I actually spent an hour fighting with Jacks back and forward.. I don't know, is it possible they fixed it in newer units ...
yeah should work on the individual outputs of each voice. Just 1 click into the output. I bought another Perkins this year and it still works so I doubt they changed that. Make sure you put the jack into it 1 click. What happens when you do? No sound at all at the individual output or no signal at the main out or both ? @@trivia8332
@@Davemech 1 click I can hear the sound coming from the voice but the knobs does not work i cant change volume level or sent the voice to FX. The knobs just behaves like with the jacks all the way in.
@@trivia8332the volume knob won't affect the individual voice out. Only the volume to the main out. FX send only sends the voice to the bbd (bbd output goes to main out). Just to be sure, you're not expecting these to have an affect on the I decidual outputs right ? :)
I know I’ll buy one of these at some point. Sooner rather than later I hope. Love my DFAM and this looks like that taken to 11…on steroids. Such a great demo too man.
@@Cowboy-Ben-Almanit is in the manual for sure. One undocumented feature is shift + shuffle which an activates flam mode. Select a speed with the sequence trigs and then press and hold a voice trigger (or visa versa ofc).
Great stuff, the perkons seems like a great techno monster (+ experimental music). Not really something for 'normal' EDM/IDM due to the lack of a normal snare drum
Thanks! Yeah I guess 🤷♂️ it does have quite a rangy snare voice though. “Normal” snares are possible I just don’t tend to use them all that much in my music if ever. (IDM is mostly experimental music btw, not the same as EDM ;) (sorry just had to add that as idm is one of my favorite “genres” even though it’s not really a genre at the same time)
Nice one ;) If I use the four individual outputs for recording ... what happens with the BBD? Does the effect end up in sum only on the master or separated on each single out?
@@Davemechoh no, bbd effect on single output is the only thing I‘m missing here personally. But anyway, nice and unique machine. thanks for your feedback ✌🏻
Great stuff. Thanks for that learned quite a few tricks. Regarding the bug you had. Are you on the latest firmware? They released an update on 2nd March. I assume you're on the latest version although it's worth double check. Quick question regarding the individual voice output does it goes after the BBD and master compressor? Or only the master output pass through all the chai n? Didn't find that on the manual. Just asking before getting a new sound interface with nore inputs.
Great demo Dave.👍👍👍 Extremely good for techno. However, I prefer to stick to my MPC which covers a much larger spectrum of drum and instrumental sounds.
hey dave , mooi werk op de perkons ! klein technisch vraagje , hie breed is de perkons zonder zijpanelen . nog 5 weken wachten voor mijn toestel toekomt . wil in afwachting een kastje maken .
Toevallig in een documentje staan:) Cheekless perkons: 430 x 315 x 90 Wel even onder voorbehoud 😬 geen idee of ik het echt tot op de halve millimeter nauwkeurig heb gemeten Veel plezier met perkons. Echt een pracht instrument
Hi bro, I'm looking for a box to make Afterlife style kicks, particularly Anyma and Camelphat, I wanted to ask you if this is a good option. I'm between this box and the Analog rytm mkII from Elektron, I can't decide yet and I'm finding out. Thank you very much and greetings Anthony
It does send out triggers from each voice. Just triggers so no note information. Can’t sequence melody via midi from perkons. There’s no extra track. Just the 4 :)
Super killer tutorial - we just took delivery of our Perkons (we are Thundergate, so I mean, we had to get one right?) and I am off to the races after watching this Dave. I subbed you a while back - keep rocking. X
Hey, can you tell me which firmware you are using? My 4 voice trigger lamps are really dim and I'm on 1.2. I can't even see voice triggering on the switch lamps.
Same firmware. It’s not an issue but simply indicating the level of the voice. So if the light is dim it means the volume is low of that voice. The brighter the led the louder the signal. When using subtle hihats etc on voice 4 this is to be expected 👍
Have got one for two years now actually. Yes very much. Using it for a new improv live project (Control // Modify) that I started with a mate. Processed by push 3. Loving it. More info about that project on instagram :)
Yeah. I can now consistently recreate it: wiggle a knob and while doing that press and hold shift. It will go into control all mode. But when you release shift the parameters don’t snap back.
You know what features I'd really like to see on Perkons: 1) per-voice sequence reset, so I can just "fix" one voice's sequence which no longer lines up, due to having changed the length, division or multiplication, 2) a way to revert a single voice back to what's stored in the kit, and 3) a way to maybe hold down a button to (temporarily) make a bunch of changes across voices, and then release the button to have it instantly revert the voices back to their previous state.
You can already do 3 Hold shift and change a parameter. It will change that parameter on all voices. Let go of shift and they revert back. Though your idea of having it do that with individual controls is quite neat yeah. Send in a feature request :) One feature request I really would love to see is shifting a voice’s sequence left or right. But I haven’t come up with a workable way of implementing such a feature yet.
@@Davemech wait, I thought holding Shift and changing a parameter changed it across all 4 voices, like you said in your other comment. Now I'm confused!
@@Cowboy-Ben-Alman yes it does. En releasing it snaps everything back. That’s why I said: having that feature (snap back) for individual parameters is a neat idea. Ah I see I made a typo :) corrected
No but I’m sure they are aware of this. It’s a pretty common thing you can do with Jack output sockets. Depends a bit on the architecture of a synth if it can be used though I guess :)
Great vid.. I'm a bit confused by your fx routing though. Are both the reverb and delay basically inserted into the main signal path with the boum connected to master out with a dual mono splitter?
Voice 1 direct out goes through delay. Voice 4 direct out through reverb. OTO boum is on the master insert of my mixer (which is not on screen ). Cheers :)
Hey! I think they will be nice to use together yeah. I haven’t tried yet so far. You get 5 channels so all individual outs plus the main out can be used which is nice. The reason I haven’t really tried yet is that I had other plans for perkons :). I’ll put it on the list of things to record a video of ;)
Afaik that is a printing error that somehow is still getting printed :). In one of the earlier prototypes of perkons there was a switch there that changed the mod source of the bbd modulation. Not entirely sure how it worked but the mid position was "S1". It seems like they missed the S when removing the print for that switch.
I think everyone knows as it’s in the specifications. One of the prototypes did have an analog bbd but it added too much noise to an already noisy beast with all the analog filters and so on
I think their product labeling is misleading. Especially for ‘young players’ … But you do you … Maybe. Everybody seems to love the Matriarch’s delay … maybe they didn’t implement it well, or tried cheap bbds, idk 🤷🏻♂️ … Wonder if it’s another PT2399 delay?! About the cheapest option for ‘analog-style’ delay
@@kierenmoore3236why is it misleading ? They’re quite open about the fact the algo for the BbD was created in collaboration with another (Dutch) developer. Anyway, of course there are differences in quality. To me the sound of this coded BBD sounds great though. But to each their own I guess. All good 👍
Does anyone ever make actual music with these things? I mean there are always the obligatory infinitely looping 4 beat sequences but they would need to be synced somehow to other tracks if you wanted to quantize other parts and add vocals etc. I never hear actual music- only endlessly repeating VC sequences with a guy turning up and the filter cutoff. Yeah, they sound cool for a few seconds, but it’s not really a full piece of music, right? Anyone else longing for some music with a melody and lyrics and a real chord progression?
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The great thing of this machine is that it is NOT an 808/909 but does something different. We need more stuff like this for percussion. We can't always live in the 808/909 world. There is so much more
Agreed! 🙏
Totally agree with you, WE eat 909 drums since 30 ans, all what is possible to do with the Roland had been made and thx to Erica synth for purpose us a machine who can creating hard style kicks without many multi effects for making music more real kicks, i can't ear thé 909 techno kicks or electribe sounds !
For sure, m'y next toy ASAP 😂
agree this is a modern update and unique sounding even different from other drum machines like the Rytm.
I'd love to have this, I really would. Only I can't justify the price. I'm hoping behringer bring a clone out sometime soon, you know what they are like 😂
Well said. I have the techno system and I'm tempted to switch over this just because of that.
Thanks for doing Justice I'm a professional Sound Designer and you sold the Perkons to me. I'm working on a techno production suite next and literally the vibe you create is like no other!
Wonderful to hear, thank you ❤️❤️
Best demo on Perkons 👏🏻
You nailed it "it's just so fun to play with". I couldn't have summarized this machine better. That's the key for me, being excited to explore every time I turn it on.
That's the sign of a truly inspirational bit of kit! I really want one
I am blown away by the huge varity of sounds you got out of these 4 voices. Great jam!
Thank you !
Thanks DM. Very cool video and so great to see that you have done your deep diving with this beautiful instrument. Super ideas kicking around and you passed some inspiration on to me today. Much appreciated!
Man... the groove is fantastic. Must be the greatest Perkons demo of all time.
Thank you 🙏
100%, The best I've heard for sure, totally agree 👌
The half insert cable trick is something I was unaware of and I'm stoked to learn it. Fantastic grooves throughout... awesome stuff.
Thanks Daniel ! Yeah that really made all the difference for me. Can really process it and almost create additional voices that way when touted through some heavy delays or other creative effects.
i feel like the utility is incredibly but i'm honestly worried i'll short something doing this
Yeah A+ tip there, I had no idea!
Should this be necessary … ?! 😕
In the market for one of these, this is the best demo i've found so far. nice work!
Thank you:)
i am listening to this over and over... i wish you would make some more vids with this machine!
Thanks ! Posted a dual Perkons jam a few months ago :). More definitely to come as perkons is an important part of a project I’m working on together with another producer. Stay tuned :)
@@DavemechI've listened to all your perkons performances already :) ❤
That was excellent. Some great tips there and can't wait to try them out!!! PLEASE do more Perkons deep dives.
Thanks Mark 🙏 yeah will do! Probably more on the demo side of the spectrum but definitely will create more perkons videos :)
What a beast! And superb demo. Really nice those drones and that fat kick. And also - as a bonus - a new word "Twiggle the Knobs", I guess tweak and wiggle combined. Nice one!
Thanks :). Keep on twiggling 👍
I recently picked up a Perkons and this has really inspired me to dig deeper with it. Thank you! I'm definitely keen for more Perkons videos, such as using it as drone machine, melody machine, etc.
Nice! Such a wonderful instrument right? :). Yeah more videos definitely coming :)
@@Davemech Indeed! Loving Perkons and Erica stuff in general. I feel Perkons is a great compliment to some of my Elektron boxes like Digitakt, A4, Digitone. I really need to explore the fx loops further though.
I really love what you are doing with the Perkons. With the Perkons I wasn‘t sure until I have seen your video. I really have to buy this awesome instrument and hopefully get in touch with it like you and get the same inspirations.
Thanks for the kind words ! Once you get to know the details and things start to become common ground (which algo does what etc.), it’s very easy to get into a flow state 👍
Loved that made me turn on mine. I liked the fact you were using the different voices for different things . For eg voice 2 as kick drum instead of voice one . I was approaching mine to traditional. Now you have opened up my mind to more experimentation. Thank you!
Awesome :) thanks for watching 🙏
Btw Voice 3 on Algo 1 and Mode 2 is called resonant bassdrum.
@@kablehead Jup. But to me it’s more low Tom-ish. Can’t dial in more punch.
Excellent demonstration of your creative workflow.
You just saved me 3k and helped make my decision. I love black system ii for its drones and the perkons for percussion. But you just showcased Perkons doing everything. I'll be buying one soon 👍
Woohoo! That’s Easy money 🎉
Awesome ! Great to see you jamming outside of the Elektron universe. What a great instrument Perkons is - in the right hands ! 👏👏🎶👍
Epic demo.
My favorite piece of gear by far. You can produce whole tracks on this alone if used thoughtfully/creatively. Very easy to learn. Such an authentic sound! GO BUY ONE!
I agree love mine!
Jup! Amazing piece of kit ❤
I was about to say the same!
Wow! Great Job!!!!
this is amazing! thank you!
Dope demo, they should give you an affiliate link. A lot of people bought this because of you!!
best perkons vid out there.
Sounds so good!
Amazing! Thanks for this!
@Davemech what's the name of the yellow and red units next to the HD-01? Just love the droning sound around 19:30 etc. which is just awesome and very inspiring.
Thank you ! Those are OTO machines, BAM and BOUM. A reverb and saturator/compressor
@@Davemech thanks; quite interesting with the semi-inserted audio connectors to the OTO machines. It reminds me of a internal quirk of the Roland JD-800 synthesizer (that I used back in the 90s), where you could get some truly unique metallic sounds the fx modules if you basically overloaded everything and turned the volume of the JD-800 way way way down .. and then simply by navigating the fx menus with the knobs, the internal signals created these wonderful harmonics.
As for the audio routing of the setup in the video, sorry for asking, but could you please check if I'm getting it right?
HD-01 main output to Raindrops, Raindrops output to OTO red, OTO red outputs to OTO yellow
HD-01 osc1 output to Raindrops
HD-01 osc4 output to OTO red
OTO red to mixer
I'm considering starting getting into techno production again, but never left the scene since the early 90s. Your content is highly appreciated.
Inspiring demo...! Cheers.
awesome track at 36:00
Got one yesterday and I'm floored this thing is AMAZING and I've only yet scratched the surface. I'll be using this for years to come.
Awesome. Enjoy! Yeah it’s really really great. Flow machine
Sounds amazing!!! Great demo, I really want one of these... I'm jus wary of spending so much money on one device😮
Thank you so much. to me, this video is almost perfectly executed! it helps me a lot in my process of decision making. Can you please add information about the routing (i.e. Voice 1 and 4 into rain drops -> mixer and also for the OTOs you used? which mixer did you use?)
Hands down best demo of Perkons I e seen. You’re doing stuff that I didn’t think possible with the drones. Like you I’ve been experimenting with individual efx pedals to the individual voices but i have couple of questions to your setup:
1) how come your not going Send and Return to an EFX pedal?
2) where does the send master (black/white cable on right) go to?
Thank you for a great video!
Thank you! :)
1) because I use stereo fx and the send and return are mono. So sending out to a stereo effect adds stereo width. Additionally it gives me a way to mix the effected part of the signal separately.
2) that’s the master out which is going into my mixing desk (SSL big six). Same for the outputs of the effect pedals.
Cheers!
thanks so much for this demo, particularly as a techno producer. all the "synth tubers" out there just creating directionless button masher rubbish that doesn't give me a true idea of what this is capable of.
Best demo👍👍👍👍👍
Nice, thanks!
Awesome 😎
so cool. Rave in a box, Latvian style!
Hey mate great video, the 'control all bug' isn't a bug at all, its in the manual, hold down shift at any point while playing and all of the voices adjust their corresponding pots. Its an awesome feature, try bring the decay down while holding shift next time you have a busy beat going on.
Hehe thanks. I know that control all is a feature that’s why I showcased it. That was not what I was pointing out when talking about the bug ;)
I honestly love this thing so much.
I’m tempted to sell literally all my other hardware music equipment and getting just this instead.
I can then start a synth collection again from scratch with this as the main piece.
It’s a difficult decision as I love some of my equipment (TR8s, JU06a, Sh01a, tb03) Boutiques. But the money from that, and maybe a couple camera lenses and I’d have enough for one of these.
It’s so tempting!
It’s instantly Techno.
How does it interact with other instruments? Deffo keen for more jams featuring this bad boy!
Cheers ! More jams will definitely come. Been working on a new setup with perkons and will show it soon. That’s a lot of gear that you’ll sell though. Perkons is awesome but be sure you can try one out before getting rid of gear that you love. Sometimes a new shiny thing can blind us from the fact that we already have what we need ;)
hey dave
mooi werk op de perkons daar !
klein technisch vraagje ,
hoe breed is de perkons zonder de zijpanelen? De wachttijd op mijn toestel is 5 weken .
Wil al een kastje maken...
good job!
Great video - thanks! can a ask what those 2 effects boxes are either side please?
Cheers - Andy
Have a great 2024! 😊
Those are OTO Boum (left) and BAM ( right) :)
Can you walk me through how you hooked up all the effect pedals once more
Ready to see you run each of the voices in to your db4 next
Waiting for it to come back from getting repaired but that’s definitely something I’m going to do :)
@@Davemech Awesome! Really looking forward to it 💯💯
Amazing video and jam! I saw you used Perkons also live in a club. Curious how does it sound on a big sound system compared to other drum machines/samplers you have?
Thanks ! ❤️
It sounds great and beefy on a big system. That’s for sure. I can’t really compare it to other instruments as there are too many factors at play. With samplers it depends on your samples for starters. I can make all instruments sound equally shitty or great really. Just a matter of dialing in what you love to hear.
Sorry for this non-answer 🤷♂️
For the cable-not-all-the-way-in hack maybe have someone 3d print some rings of just the right thickness to go over the jacks?
Pretty neat idea :)
this would be so much fun to use in a live setting! A bit more limited than some drum synths like Elektron and Jomox but I already have tons if gear to use as supplement. Most dance music only uses 4 drum voices anyways with kick, snare, clap and high hats for 99% of techno stuff and you would want a good bass synth voice and melodic voice to add to it. So I would use a Perkons with my Virus or small modular system. How is the MIDI clock and sync with the Perkons? Does it do a good job working with other synths? I'd like to see a video on that area.
Pretty impressive, sounds so much fuller, deeper, less conventional and more interesting than everything with the Elektron machines.
Thanks ❤️
To be fair, with Elektron stuff it’s really possible to create as big a sound as you want. Certainly with the samplers, you can put in any sample and further shape the sounds. So I wouldn’t say this sounds fuller per se. The thing is that it’s much more narrow and focused on a positive sense. So the sounds really blend well and the overal sound signature is indeed quite warm and nice right out of the box. With Elektron stuff often you need to work a bit harder :) but then you get a lot more flexibility and sound design options in return.
I had quite a few Elektrons including the awesome Machinedrum UW. I think they have a certain recognizable sound which you like or you don't like. Always a tad on the clinical side. This sounds very different I think. Love it. Thanks.@@Davemech
@@larbgai75 ah yeah they can sound a bit like that but you can definitely break loose of that and make them sound as gnarly, broken and heavy l as you’d want. Takes a bit more work though :)
@@Davemech I would have to disagree:) Even in your vid with the fantastic Oto Boum at the end I recognize that sound immediately, but anyway each his own.
@@larbgai75 agree to disagree I guess :). To me, the reason why that tracks sounds the way it does is because I made it sound like that.
Please keep making more vids about the Perkons please. You are my Perkons guru. 🦺
Sure thing :)
Great demo omg, can you do another without external effects?
Thank you!
Yeah might do that :). Have a few early demos when i just got it that are just perkons without effects. On my channel 👍
@@Davemech I discovered them, but now I want more, you made me go for one today
This instrument is the future of music production 🙌🏼
Perkons HD-02
Best review our there
Great stuff! For the new push/perkons setup do you do your mastering ITB through Ableton or through analog heat/oto boum? Can't wait to see more of that!
Thank you ! There’s a whole lot of processing through push that I can control live. Plus an IMC on the master m output.
@@Davemechoooh IMC - now THATS fancy!
solid mate!
Thanks Dave super good jam! Learnt heaps to. Just ordered a Perkons yesterday and this is 120% confirmation it's the right choice.
Choice of pedals? I see you have 2 x OTOs and RAIND-ROPS. I have no mixer :-( so was thinking the OTO BeBe Cherie on mixer duties (or there a better option?) and then the BOUM and BAM?
This is such a creative instrument - mind blowingly good!
Thank you !
If you go for Bebe cherie, very cool mixer, I’d skip the oto boum for now as Bebe can cover some of that really. Bam is a beautifully vibey reverb and maybe a delay. Raindrops is certainly nice. Bebe cherie has 1 “send” by using the mute/alt out function. So you could use a delay on that for example and then one of the perkons voices through the BaM :). You could also start with a simple 4 to 6 mono track mixer to see if that suits you and then slowly add to it with fx and eventually exchange it for a mixer that will suit your needs. Sometimes it’s better to start with some basics to find out what you’re looking for :) hope this helps ! Cheers
Hi Is the trick with cables still work for you? I'm trying and trying it does not work with my gear 😭🤧I'm on the 1.1.1 firmware
Yeah certainly work. It's a "feature" of the hardware. Firmware won't have influence on that. Make sure you are using unbalanced cables
@@Davemech Yes Im using TS cables. Tried On Voices outputs, sends I actually spent an hour fighting with Jacks back and forward.. I don't know, is it possible they fixed it in newer units ...
yeah should work on the individual outputs of each voice. Just 1 click into the output. I bought another Perkins this year and it still works so I doubt they changed that. Make sure you put the jack into it 1 click. What happens when you do? No sound at all at the individual output or no signal at the main out or both ? @@trivia8332
@@Davemech 1 click I can hear the sound coming from the voice but the knobs does not work i cant change volume level or sent the voice to FX. The knobs just behaves like with the jacks all the way in.
@@trivia8332the volume knob won't affect the individual voice out. Only the volume to the main out. FX send only sends the voice to the bbd (bbd output goes to main out). Just to be sure, you're not expecting these to have an affect on the I decidual outputs right ? :)
I know I’ll buy one of these at some point. Sooner rather than later I hope. Love my DFAM and this looks like that taken to 11…on steroids. Such a great demo too man.
So cool.
That kick
pwhoah! Very nice demo
Dave, at 21:16 what does holding Shift do while you're tweaking voice parameters? I don't see anything about that in the manual
It changes the parameter on all voices at once. Control all :) you can also record that into the sequencer which is really cool
@@Davemech was this in the manual? I couldn't find it anywhere! Do you know of any other undocumented features?
@@Cowboy-Ben-Almanit is in the manual for sure. One undocumented feature is shift + shuffle which an activates flam mode. Select a speed with the sequence trigs and then press and hold a voice trigger (or visa versa ofc).
@@Davemech Ok, thanks! I re-read the manual and found it in the Parameter Lock section!
Great stuff, the perkons seems like a great techno monster (+ experimental music). Not really something for 'normal' EDM/IDM due to the lack of a normal snare drum
Thanks! Yeah I guess 🤷♂️ it does have quite a rangy snare voice though. “Normal” snares are possible I just don’t tend to use them all that much in my music if ever. (IDM is mostly experimental music btw, not the same as EDM ;) (sorry just had to add that as idm is one of my favorite “genres” even though it’s not really a genre at the same time)
Nice one ;) If I use the four individual outputs for recording ... what happens with the BBD? Does the effect end up in sum only on the master or separated on each single out?
It’s a send effect so you send the voices to the BBD. Main out only
@@Davemechoh no, bbd effect on single output is the only thing I‘m missing here personally. But anyway, nice and unique machine.
thanks for your feedback ✌🏻
@@simonwehner but that would mean 4 BBD’s not one :D but yeah I understand you. But the bbd as send effect has quite a few upsides too 👍
@@Davemech. 4 x digital delay chips (PT2399?! 🤷🏻♂️). NOT 4 x actual BBD chips, which WOULD be a significant cost …
Great stuff. Thanks for that learned quite a few tricks. Regarding the bug you had. Are you on the latest firmware? They released an update on 2nd March. I assume you're on the latest version although it's worth double check.
Quick question regarding the individual voice output does it goes after the BBD and master compressor? Or only the master output pass through all the chai n? Didn't find that on the manual. Just asking before getting a new sound interface with nore inputs.
The individual outs are really direct out from each voice. The master comp/bbd are only on the…. Master out :)
@@Davemech thanks I didn't had how to test it atm. Newbie question but saved me some hassle
Great demo Dave.👍👍👍
Extremely good for techno. However, I prefer to stick to my MPC which covers a much larger spectrum of drum and instrumental sounds.
Why choose ? ;)
@@DavemechI just ordered one to interface with MPCX
Thx, you unleashed new features of this machine from hell
Remains one of the sickest Perkons demos on all of UA-cam.
hey dave ,
mooi werk op de perkons !
klein technisch vraagje ,
hie breed is de perkons zonder zijpanelen .
nog 5 weken wachten voor mijn toestel toekomt . wil in afwachting een kastje maken .
Toevallig in een documentje staan:)
Cheekless perkons: 430 x 315 x 90
Wel even onder voorbehoud 😬 geen idee of ik het echt tot op de halve millimeter nauwkeurig heb gemeten
Veel plezier met perkons. Echt een pracht instrument
heel erg bedankt !!!
Why is it over already? I could listen to that forever. I would really appreciate if you just jam with it for an over or two.
Thanks ! Yeah I think I might post some longer jams with it in the near future :)
Hoi, wat voor sleutel heb je gebruikt om de zijpanelen er af te schroeven?
Hey, volgens mij gewoon inbus dacht ik
awseome my kind of flavor !!!!
Hi bro, I'm looking for a box to make Afterlife style kicks, particularly Anyma and Camelphat, I wanted to ask you if this is a good option. I'm between this box and the Analog rytm mkII from Elektron, I can't decide yet and I'm finding out.
Thank you very much and greetings
Anthony
wow!
Basic question but what’s the name of this and/or the one with all the wires patching.
Can you mix them?
Hi Anglo, not entirely sure what you mean. Do you mean the additional hardware around the perkons ?
Dave, do you know if you can use the internal sequencer to sequemce external gear ( on a separate track would be awesome)
It does send out triggers from each voice. Just triggers so no note information. Can’t sequence melody via midi from perkons. There’s no extra track. Just the 4 :)
@@Davemech tx! Getting mine tomorrow. Nice!
@@mickvdzwan cool! Enjoy !
Do you have a ' how to do techno rumble with the perkons ' masterclass ready? :)
Super killer tutorial - we just took delivery of our Perkons (we are Thundergate, so I mean, we had to get one right?) and I am off to the races after watching this Dave. I subbed you a while back - keep rocking. X
Awesome thanks for the kind words and enjoy perkons ! Yeah your name indeed suggests this is a perfect match 😁
Hey, can you tell me which firmware you are using? My 4 voice trigger lamps are really dim and I'm on 1.2. I can't even see voice triggering on the switch lamps.
Same firmware. It’s not an issue but simply indicating the level of the voice. So if the light is dim it means the volume is low of that voice. The brighter the led the louder the signal. When using subtle hihats etc on voice 4 this is to be expected 👍
One year on. Are you still enjoying it?
Have got one for two years now actually. Yes very much. Using it for a new improv live project (Control // Modify) that I started with a mate. Processed by push 3. Loving it.
More info about that project on instagram :)
Yessss... the @35:08 bug is super annoying.
Yeah. I can now consistently recreate it: wiggle a knob and while doing that press and hold shift. It will go into control all mode. But when you release shift the parameters don’t snap back.
@@Davemech
That's exactly my experience... Ruins the fun every time it happens.
You know what features I'd really like to see on Perkons: 1) per-voice sequence reset, so I can just "fix" one voice's sequence which no longer lines up, due to having changed the length, division or multiplication, 2) a way to revert a single voice back to what's stored in the kit, and 3) a way to maybe hold down a button to (temporarily) make a bunch of changes across voices, and then release the button to have it instantly revert the voices back to their previous state.
You can already do 3 Hold shift and change a parameter. It will change that parameter on all voices. Let go of shift and they revert back. Though your idea of having it do that with individual controls is quite neat yeah. Send in a feature request :)
One feature request I really would love to see is shifting a voice’s sequence left or right. But I haven’t come up with a workable way of implementing such a feature yet.
@@Davemech wait, I thought holding Shift and changing a parameter changed it across all 4 voices, like you said in your other comment. Now I'm confused!
@@Davemech I like the idea of per-voice sequence nudge, though. That would work well with a per-voice sequence reset!
@@Cowboy-Ben-Alman yes it does. En releasing it snaps everything back. That’s why I said: having that feature (snap back) for individual parameters is a neat idea. Ah I see I made a typo :) corrected
@@Davemech ah ok that makes sense now!
Where's a demo on snare sounds for 2 and 4?
🤷♂️
Did Erica Synth respond to your individual out-cable hack?
No but I’m sure they are aware of this. It’s a pretty common thing you can do with Jack output sockets. Depends a bit on the architecture of a synth if it can be used though I guess :)
Great vid.. I'm a bit confused by your fx routing though. Are both the reverb and delay basically inserted into the main signal path with the boum connected to master out with a dual mono splitter?
Voice 1 direct out goes through delay. Voice 4 direct out through reverb. OTO boum is on the master insert of my mixer (which is not on screen ). Cheers :)
Hi Dave, would the Perkons and the DB4 be a good match?
Hey!
I think they will be nice to use together yeah. I haven’t tried yet so far. You get 5 channels so all individual outs plus the main out can be used which is nice. The reason I haven’t really tried yet is that I had other plans for perkons :). I’ll put it on the list of things to record a video of ;)
@@Davemech thank you! Looking forward to the video ;)
What's up whit the bug? Did they solved?
Nope not yet
The fact that it only has 4 voices seems to be instrumental in avoiding everything getting too busy.
Certainly 👍
What are the two square boxes you are using (red and yellow)?
OTO Bam and Boum
This video got me to buy a Perkons. Most other vids are meh.
Hi Dave - do think the Perkons needs the OTO Boum?
Not really no. It’s a flavor that you may like or want to experiment with but perkons sounds great on itself as well 👍
Do you know maybe what means letter S in the end of the scale of the LFO rate knob?
Afaik that is a printing error that somehow is still getting printed :). In one of the earlier prototypes of perkons there was a switch there that changed the mod source of the bbd modulation. Not entirely sure how it worked but the mid position was "S1". It seems like they missed the S when removing the print for that switch.
@@Davemech Thx for your reply...") I thought it is another way to sync LFO. One more Q what is the cable brand you use in that video. Thank you.
this would be great with an ARP 2600 and Virus!
i hate techno but this thing makes me like it
😀 splendid
❤
He uses OTO machines. 😍😍
Yeasss! Live them
The “BBD” delay is digital.
The “very analog” master compressor is digital, too.
Just to be 💯 clear …
I think everyone knows as it’s in the specifications. One of the prototypes did have an analog bbd but it added too much noise to an already noisy beast with all the analog filters and so on
I think their product labeling is misleading. Especially for ‘young players’ … But you do you …
Maybe. Everybody seems to love the Matriarch’s delay … maybe they didn’t implement it well, or tried cheap bbds, idk 🤷🏻♂️ …
Wonder if it’s another PT2399 delay?! About the cheapest option for ‘analog-style’ delay
@@kierenmoore3236why is it misleading ? They’re quite open about the fact the algo for the BbD was created in collaboration with another (Dutch) developer.
Anyway, of course there are differences in quality. To me the sound of this coded BBD sounds great though. But to each their own I guess. All good 👍
Does anyone ever make actual music with these things? I mean there are always the obligatory infinitely looping 4 beat sequences but they would need to be synced somehow to other tracks if you wanted to quantize other parts and add vocals etc. I never hear actual music- only endlessly repeating VC sequences with a guy turning up and the filter cutoff. Yeah, they sound cool for a few seconds, but it’s not really a full piece of music, right? Anyone else longing for some music with a melody and lyrics and a real chord progression?
I think you might be looking for a guitar
Sounds like a hit to me....😅
needs a hard fat snare.
It has plenty of hard snares. I just don’t use snares that often. ;)