I go to iFly regularly. It has inherent dangers but it does blow my mind the instructor did not intervene. Without a good amount of experience they usually barely take their hands off of you.
For real I got signed off for level one belly and before that if I got unstable he was literally a foot away ready to grab me. The one I go to in Arizona has strict safety measures and if you flip like a fish they won’t let you back in the tunnel unless you learn to relax
I was getting trained for AFF (first time in a tunnel) and was touched/aided minimally. I was told that first time flyers aren’t anywhere near as good as I was so we started doing things he didn’t teach me outside of the tunnel lol
@@whitetail_15I'm also an AFF student and my first 12 minutes were pretty much just learning to fly in the tunnel. Didn't work on any body positioning or maneuvers until 13 minutes, 48 minutes later I got signed off on my level 1.
I feel for this man. But you gotta be realistic. At a certain age you cannot be doing activities that your body can't no longer stand. Don't get me wrong. Even younger folks get hurt badly for pushing the body to the limit (CTE, ACL injury) Cuz you always these stories esp in athletes why their career end overnight.
A waiver would only hold up in court if the terms are considered reasonable. The waiver said that you could be hurt, but his injuries went beyond that. Also, negligence is not considered reasonable, someone should've been there. Just because you sign an informed consent waiver to have a medical procedure done, doesn't mean you can't sue your doctor if something goes wrong, if he's at fault. Ifly tried to use the waiver to have the case dismissed and the judge denied the dismissal.
Hey man that is terrible. But doing that kind of activity, at that age, comes with a multitude of potentially bad outcomes. I am sorry at the outcome but there is personal accoutibility that seems to be ignored. I also understand the life altering outcome leaves the person with no other choice but to sue or be devastated finacially.
@@lu_re7198 Sure it does. As you age you age you bones become more brittle, muscle mass and strength decrease. The likelihood of a severe injury from a simple event increases with age. Its why it very common for older adultsto break hips frequently from a fall that a younger person doesnt even bruise from. So at his age, you should avoid high risk behaviour.
I read some of the lame comments about the victim shouldn't have got on since he is to old. Well the company should have said so. Sounds like negligence on the companies part.
@@marissa._ yeah but if you ever went there, you’d know during briefing they tell you “If you get too close, just push off of the wall.” I’m not sure if he was completely uncontrollable, but I think the instructor thought he could push the wall
@@zzaacchh Then they shouldn't say its safe, if they know its not! Why lie and put someone's life at risk instead of just telling the truth? If the mechanism isn't safe, just say that!
@@marissa._ women like you ruin the world with your ludicrous expectation that nothing bad should ever happen no matter how much risk a person insists on taking. Every car is 10x more expensive than it has to be and every job pays 10x less because everything has to be overstuffed with safety features because whiny women cry up a storm any time something bad happens anywhere. Literally everywhere in the world that actually listens to women is currently in population collapse because their nations are utterly bankrupt and their people too coddled to face the challenges of life. Meanwhile all the places that tell their women to zip it are currently taking over the world
I called them to verfiy cause im a paraplegic and wanted to know, they told me he was flying by himslef he had a lot of flights he goes there a few times got certified ut he was doing stunts that a beginner should have and he was already checked all the atuff to fly by himslef
If you actually read the waiver, there is a section that goes over age, weight and health concerns/restrictions. Although a brief section, it is pretty detailed
@@government_Lies No. It isn't. They do thousands of safety tests on Cars, and implement new safety measures every year.....They don't do that with iFly
That's why many places make your sign a waiver in case shit goes wrong. If you wanna put your body and life in danger, you better be ready. Sign a waiver. You should know better what could happen to you.
I went to ifly for my son's birthday with my 2 daughters and husband. I posted a video of the whole process. Thankfully we had an amazing instructor if the instructor was negligent and that's what caused this I could see how a waiver wouldn't hold up.
sad story. prayers for the guy and his family. if the instructor was negligent, that's awful. just got home from an iFly, and our instructor team was outstanding, safe, controlled, and still very fun.
For those commenting on his age- did you miss the part where it said he was a runner? I’m 58 and flying tomorrow. I’m probably in better shape than most of the victim blaming commenters. Also if he can prove neglect he has a case.
Terrible that had happened to him.wouldnt wish it on anyone.but these things are a risk u cant start blaming people.its like getting to a car accident and blaming BMW just bcoz u drive their car.for crying out loud he is 63 wat was he doing there aaaiiiyaaa😢
well dont go! You know what ur singing up for when u read the waiver. Ive been multiple times with my children and the staff is always safe and nice.. this Is a MONEY grab!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh, I was thinking about doing this for my son…Nope, not if there’s even a small chance something terrible could happen. If the waiver clearly states the risk and if the instructor did everything correctly, I don’t know if he would be successful in his lawsuit? I do expect a person suing will say whatever is advantageous to their case. Well, either way I feel terrible for the guy.
Who could know that jumping from a flying airplane could be dangerous we have two different kind of people in this world people who can be told and other's have to do and witness and live it to understand and if it turns out badly with these kind of people it's almost always someone else's fault they did absolutely nothing careless jumping from a perfectly fine airplane should never be the least bit dangerous is Hilarious
Did iFly twice with my husband, signed the waiver..they don't claim its safe. With any activity like that there's a great risk of injury..it's silly to think otherwise.
Company should sill reevaluate their safety precautions and look into how it happened. Of course there's an expected risk of minor injury but this was catastrophic.
They make you sign waivers at haunted houses too… and it’s like someone who goes into a haunted house but sues for emotional distress and trauma. Let me sue everyone that’s ever hurt me emotionally and physically.
"Oh look, an indoor luxury activity that is dangerous and has multiple accidents to its name, how about i willingly go in there, what is the worst that could happen"
Should have known better at his age. Sorry mate but you signed a waiver and you knew the risks, don't insult the intelligence by playing dumb now. You've got no one else but yourself to blame.
The dude is probably a super loose skydiver that was thinking he was hot shit, I bet the instructor on the wind was probably telling him to chill out before he did something stupid and fucked himself up. Skydivers unfortunately be like that sometimes
People also dont realize how much more precise you have to be indoors over the sky. In the blue you could slide 500ft and it hardly be a big deal, whereas you only have a max of 14ft before you smack a wall indoor skydiving.
I go to iFly regularly. It has inherent dangers but it does blow my mind the instructor did not intervene. Without a good amount of experience they usually barely take their hands off of you.
For real I got signed off for level one belly and before that if I got unstable he was literally a foot away ready to grab me. The one I go to in Arizona has strict safety measures and if you flip like a fish they won’t let you back in the tunnel unless you learn to relax
I was getting trained for AFF (first time in a tunnel) and was touched/aided minimally. I was told that first time flyers aren’t anywhere near as good as I was so we started doing things he didn’t teach me outside of the tunnel lol
@@whitetail_15I'm also an AFF student and my first 12 minutes were pretty much just learning to fly in the tunnel. Didn't work on any body positioning or maneuvers until 13 minutes, 48 minutes later I got signed off on my level 1.
Oh no!!! That is absolutely terrible! I am so sorry to hear. Sending prayers to him and his family. ❤️
Poor guy, my 12 year old daughter and I went there and had a blast. Problem is, theres a reason why they make you sign waivers beforehand.
I feel for this man. But you gotta be realistic. At a certain age you cannot be doing activities that your body can't no longer stand. Don't get me wrong. Even younger folks get hurt badly for pushing the body to the limit (CTE, ACL injury) Cuz you always these stories esp in athletes why their career end overnight.
The accident had nothing to do w/ his age. He had a severe head (and possibly neck) injury.
@@lu_re7198 He learned his old lesson
You have to sign a waiver so you take full responsibility for risk being injured. Don’t know if he’ll win.
A waiver would only hold up in court if the terms are considered reasonable. The waiver said that you could be hurt, but his injuries went beyond that. Also, negligence is not considered reasonable, someone should've been there. Just because you sign an informed consent waiver to have a medical procedure done, doesn't mean you can't sue your doctor if something goes wrong, if he's at fault. Ifly tried to use the waiver to have the case dismissed and the judge denied the dismissal.
@@Heat_Rush actually, the waiver mentions could cause death. Same as if you were to sign waiver doing sky diving from plane.
@@Heat_Rush no waiver involving possible death mentions what you’re saying lol
I guess you don’t get out much, 😂
Ever went sky diving? Just google
Don't u have to sign some paperwork before flying?
He signed a waiver...if you watch the video his lawyer discusses that.
Hey man that is terrible. But doing that kind of activity, at that age, comes with a multitude of potentially bad outcomes. I am sorry at the outcome but there is personal accoutibility that seems to be ignored. I also understand the life altering outcome leaves the person with no other choice but to sue or be devastated finacially.
It had nothing to do w/ age. I believe he had a severe head (and possibly neck or spine) injury.
@@lu_re7198 Sure it does. As you age you age you bones become more brittle, muscle mass and strength decrease. The likelihood of a severe injury from a simple event increases with age. Its why it very common for older adultsto break hips frequently from a fall that a younger person doesnt even bruise from. So at his age, you should avoid high risk behaviour.
@@lu_re7198 You're not serious are you? Please tell me you aren't. Age was definitely a factor.
I read some of the lame comments about the victim shouldn't have got on since he is to old. Well the company should have said so. Sounds like negligence on the companies part.
He signed a waiver though
I go to iFly often, instructors are very skilled and exercise extreme caution when training you. It is as safe as it can possible be.
"It is as safe as it can possibly be."
Obviously its not! 🙄🤦🏽♀️
@@marissa._ yeah but if you ever went there, you’d know during briefing they tell you “If you get too close, just push off of the wall.” I’m not sure if he was completely uncontrollable, but I think the instructor thought he could push the wall
@@marissa._ It's never going to be perfectly safe idk what you expect.
@@zzaacchh
Then they shouldn't say its safe, if they know its not!
Why lie and put someone's life at risk instead of just telling the truth? If the mechanism isn't safe, just say that!
@@marissa._ women like you ruin the world with your ludicrous expectation that nothing bad should ever happen no matter how much risk a person insists on taking. Every car is 10x more expensive than it has to be and every job pays 10x less because everything has to be overstuffed with safety features because whiny women cry up a storm any time something bad happens anywhere. Literally everywhere in the world that actually listens to women is currently in population collapse because their nations are utterly bankrupt and their people too coddled to face the challenges of life. Meanwhile all the places that tell their women to zip it are currently taking over the world
Wow I loved going there ! I would recommend stretching first before getting into the wind tunnel
Did he stretch first?
@@Boogie7910 clearly not!
I called them to verfiy cause im a paraplegic and wanted to know, they told me he was flying by himslef he had a lot of flights he goes there a few times got certified ut he was doing stunts that a beginner should have and he was already checked all the atuff to fly by himslef
If you actually read the waiver, there is a section that goes over age, weight and health concerns/restrictions. Although a brief section, it is pretty detailed
I wanted to go there. Now looks like I won't be.
This incident should not stop you. Not going because of this is like not driving a car because one crashed.
@@government_Lies No. It isn't. They do thousands of safety tests on Cars, and implement new safety measures every year.....They don't do that with iFly
I just went to iFly Zone yesterday and now I’m experiencing really bad chest pains and pain in my arm.
I think you're having a heart attack dude?
So did Illinois solve its pension problems or they just don't make the news
You sign a waiver for a reason stating that no matter how safe they may make it that there is always inherent risk in activities like this
Signed the waiver blindly without looking into the risks and lacking the common sense NOT TO GO INDIDE A TORNADO
Yea and at over 60 years old too.. Oof
@@Christhreeonesix it said he was 53
Not responsible for accidents. They should have made him and everyone sign a waiver..
They did.
This comment section is brutal🥴
That's why many places make your sign a waiver in case shit goes wrong.
If you wanna put your body and life in danger, you better be ready. Sign a waiver. You should know better what could happen to you.
iSUE
I went to ifly for my son's birthday with my 2 daughters and husband. I posted a video of the whole process. Thankfully we had an amazing instructor if the instructor was negligent and that's what caused this I could see how a waiver wouldn't hold up.
sad story. prayers for the guy and his family.
if the instructor was negligent, that's awful. just got home from an iFly, and our instructor team was outstanding, safe, controlled, and still very fun.
Unfortunately he signed a waiver so he's out of luck.
Waivers are not the ironclad defense that laypeople think they are.
Lawyers know how to flush those things...
@@tommym321 we'll see.
@@thechatsmeow5979 exactly.
Just like a contract, a really good attorney will find a loophole.
yeah i like the ground
Poor guy 🙏
The floor to iFly wind tunnel are metal wires crossed I seen a guy's nose all cut up from it.
Unfortunately the judge will most likely throw it out ..they are all paid off
We’ll I won’t be going there ever !! Heck no there should be no waiver !! If basically they know all the severity
I wanted to go but now idk lol
I hate to say it, but that's why they have waivers.
How the heck do you sky dive inside?! It's stupid enough to do it from a plane.
😅
You sound like you live life to the fullest!
Life at our own risk
Very sad
For those commenting on his age- did you miss the part where it said he was a runner? I’m 58 and flying tomorrow. I’m probably in better shape than most of the victim blaming commenters. Also if he can prove neglect he has a case.
Was he recently vaccinated?
Oh yeah. Betty White, Bob Saget and more..
He wasn't THAT reckless. 😀
@@Durka-Durka good shit.
Responsible for your own decisions?
Never!
He’ll no I will never do that !
So actual skydiving is safer than indoor skydiving? Scary thought
Cook county district attorney Kim Foxx
Too old , just go for a walk ; easy money retirement plans
Even the boy is laughing
The instructor definitely would’ve helped him and at ifly you wear a helmet all times while in the tunnel
Just like Disneyland on the back of the ticket it says at your own risk that you enter that facility👍🏿
I'm sure he signed a waiver.
Nobody told you to go in to Ifly
Gimme money 💰
The guy took a risk.
who skydiving at 63
Terrible that had happened to him.wouldnt wish it on anyone.but these things are a risk u cant start blaming people.its like getting to a car accident and blaming BMW just bcoz u drive their car.for crying out loud he is 63 wat was he doing there aaaiiiyaaa😢
However 😮he signed waiver he could do I fly Wright
Did he sign waver!? YES!? It is his fault. Sorry, Everybody pay for his crazy activities! I drive bikes, and I know what to expect.
Enter at your own risk.
well dont go! You know what ur singing up for when u read the waiver. Ive been multiple times with my children and the staff is always safe and nice.. this Is a MONEY grab!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh, I was thinking about doing this for my son…Nope, not if there’s even a small chance something terrible could happen.
If the waiver clearly states the risk and if the instructor did everything correctly, I don’t know if he would be successful in his lawsuit?
I do expect a person suing will say whatever is advantageous to their case. Well, either way I feel terrible for the guy.
Not good
Wow, that looks like fun.
Bud man your older guy relax
This is like paying to pet a wild animal and then being shocked when it mauls you.🍿
You sign a waiver
Who could know that jumping from a flying airplane could be dangerous we have two different kind of people in this world people who can be told and other's have to do and witness and live it to understand and if it turns out badly with these kind of people it's almost always someone else's fault they did absolutely nothing careless jumping from a perfectly fine airplane should never be the least bit dangerous is Hilarious
Darwinism at work.
Of course You went at your own risk dummy
Did iFly twice with my husband, signed the waiver..they don't claim its safe. With any activity like that there's a great risk of injury..it's silly to think otherwise.
Company should sill reevaluate their safety precautions and look into how it happened. Of course there's an expected risk of minor injury but this was catastrophic.
They make you sign waivers at haunted houses too… and it’s like someone who goes into a haunted house but sues for emotional distress and trauma. Let me sue everyone that’s ever hurt me emotionally and physically.
Real haunted houses?. With spirits??
@@leahscott1359dented school house type
Who says indoor skydiving is OK? 😆. Darwin candidates. That's who.
"Oh look, an indoor luxury activity that is dangerous and has multiple accidents to its name, how about i willingly go in there, what is the worst that could happen"
So a 60 year old. Man doing sky dive. Come on it’s his fault
Ur a old man u should not do things that can get u hurt
Should have known better at his age. Sorry mate but you signed a waiver and you knew the risks, don't insult the intelligence by playing dumb now. You've got no one else but yourself to blame.
i dont know this guy.. but my guts telling me he had it coming lol
signed a waiver... case closed
The dude is probably a super loose skydiver that was thinking he was hot shit, I bet the instructor on the wind was probably telling him to chill out before he did something stupid and fucked himself up. Skydivers unfortunately be like that sometimes
People also dont realize how much more precise you have to be indoors over the sky. In the blue you could slide 500ft and it hardly be a big deal, whereas you only have a max of 14ft before you smack a wall indoor skydiving.
He must of been showin out
Dont they sign a waver saying they cant sue lmao
ngl I thought it was kinda gonna be the companies fault, but bro is 63 tryna skydive
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Omfg
Stop😂 dude old as hell😂 but get that money man
Breaking news: old man sues swimming pool because the water was too wet
Most weivors are bull anyway I'm sure he will win in court
Man you are 63, what the hell you doing up there anyway 😅
actually dawg
I thought you have to sign a waiver before you even go in there But this is sad
It really sucks this happened to you. But suing is a bitch move imo.
Who cares
He did sign a waiver before doing it.