Mountain Combat In The Vosges - The Battle For Alsace-Lorraine I THE GREAT WAR Special
Вставка
- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- The Battle for Alsace-Lorraine in the Vosges was unforgiving and brutal. Both the French and the German troops were fighting in extreme conditions for a extremely symbolic stretch of land.
» HOW CAN I SUPPORT YOUR CHANNEL?
You can support us by sharing our videos with your friends and spreading the word about our work.You can also support us financially on Patreon: / thegreatwar
You can also buy our merchandise in our online shop: shop.spreadshirt.de/thegreatwar/
Patreon is a platform for creators like us, that enables us to get monthly financial support from the community in exchange for cool perks.
» WHERE CAN I GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WORLD WAR I AND WHERE ELSE CAN I FIND YOU?
We’re offering background knowledge, news, a glimpse behind the scenes and much more on:
reddit: bit.ly/TheGreatSubReddit
Facebook: bit.ly/WW1FB
Twitter: bit.ly/WW1Series
Instagram: bit.ly/ZpMYPL
» CAN I EMBED YOUR VIDEOS ON MY WEBSITE?
Of course, you can embed our videos on your website. We are happy if you show our channel to your friends, fellow students, classmates, professors, teachers or neighbours. Or just share our videos on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc.
We are also happy to get your feedback, criticism or ideas in the comments. If you have interesting historical questions, just post them and we will answer in our OUT OF THE TRENCHES videos. You can find a selection of answers to the most frequently asked questions here: bit.ly/OOtrenches
» CAN I SHOW YOUR VIDEOS IN CLASS?
Of course! Tell your teachers or professors about our channel and our videos. We’re happy if we can contribute with our videos. If you are a teacher and have questions about our show, you can get in contact with us on one of our social media presences.
» WHAT ARE YOUR SOURCES?
Videos: British Pathé
Pictures: Mostly Picture Alliance
Background Map: d-maps.com/carte.php?num_car=6...
Literature (excerpt):
Gilbert, Martin. The First World War. A Complete History, Holt Paperbacks, 2004.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. A Combat History of the First World War, Oxford University Press, 2013.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. 1914-1918, Profile Books, 2013.
Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
Michalka, Wolfgang. Der Erste Weltkrieg. Wirkung, Wahrnehmung, Analyse, Seehamer Verlag GmbH, 2000
Leonhard, Jörn. Die Büchse der Pandora: Geschichte des Ersten Weltkrieges, C.H. Beck, 2014
If you want to buy some of the books we use or recommend during our show, check out our Amazon Store: bit.ly/AmazonTGW
NOTE: This store uses affiliate links which grant us a commission if you buy a product there.
» WHAT IS “THE GREAT WAR” PROJECT?
THE GREAT WAR covers the events exactly 100 years ago: The story of World War I in realtime. Featuring: The unique archive material of British Pathé. Indy Neidell takes you on a journey into the past to show you what really happened and how it all could spiral into more than four years of dire war. Subscribe to our channel and don’t miss our new episodes every Thursday.
» WHO IS REPLYING TO MY COMMENTS? AND WHO IS BEHIND THIS PROJECT?
Most of the comments are written by our social media manager Florian. He is posting links, facts and backstage material on our social media channels. But from time to time, Indy reads and answers comments with his personal account, too.
The Team responsible for THE GREAT WAR is even bigger:
- CREDITS -
Presented by : Indiana Neidell
Written by: Indiana Neidell
Director: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Director of Photography: Toni Steller
Sound: Toni Steller
Mixing, Mastering & Sound Design: www.above-zero.com
Editing: Toni Steller, Julian Zahn
Motion Design: Christian Graef
Research by: Indiana Neidell
Fact checking: Markus Linke
The Great War Theme composed by Karim Theilgaard: bit.ly/karimyt
A Mediakraft Networks Original Channel
Based on a concept by Spartacus Olsson
Author: Indiana Neidell
Visual Concept: David van Stephold
Producer: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Social Media Manager: Florian Wittig
Contains licenced Material by British Pathé
All rights reserved - © Mediakraft Networks GmbH, 2018
1:24 when you're walking hand in hand with your homie and see someone filming...
That's really adorable.
Looks like a drug hand off ; )
And I'm sure Alsace-Lorraine will never be a flashpoint for conflict ever again...
Most likely won't be. Nowadays people from that part of France have nothing german about them, and the region doesn't have a great economic situation either. There's no reason to invade it.
Knoloaify i think he was alluding to ww2
Justafan IV The Maginot Line will deter the Germans from attempting an invasion ever again.
Never say never ;).
joehoe222 Even if they did it would give the French army more than enough time to mobilize;)
My grandfather was in the Alsace Lorraine Harry Truman's 129th infantry. Elmer weaver. He was wounded in the knee and gassed and shipped home. He was also tiny, 5'3" and took care of Harry Truman's horse. He had been a horse wrangler in Miles City, Montana. There are tales of him running messages between the front lines and those in command. At one point apparently his horse was shot out from under him. I tend to believe this because he was a kind-hearted man not given to exaggeration. He would have been 129 on April 1st. Passed away in a head-on in the late 60s. He walked with a limp for the rest of his life. We have his purple heart.
I ran into a young couple from France on a trail in Hawaii some years ago. We chatted and I mentioned my grandfather's involvement. I think they were from that area. For the first time I was struck with his sacrifice and how different the lives of these young people may be now.
Our ancestors fought to death for us to be able to eat original Tarte Flambée.
Miam miam.
Vince I thank them for their service.
my ancestors fought to the death over a grilled cheese off the radiator. 'twas an ugly Christmas.
I was ar the Hartmannweilerkopf. It is also known as "Meschenfresserberg" (man eating mountain). Great show you're doing
Christian Höfflin Menschen* :P (yeah, as you can tell, I'm learning DEUTSCH!)
I was there with my school.
Hey Christian. In the most of the french/German battles of WWI, you had Alsacians and Lorrains fighting in French or German uniforms, depending un which side they lived before the war began. War stories are talking about brother fights on the same battlefield
I love france, learning french is hard though, i wish i could move there!
French foreign legion.
Born and raised in Alsace (near Strasburg) and a true supporter of your show! Thanks a lot for this episode!
Do you feel more French or German?
On en apprend plus via des youtubeurs étrangers que par nos propres médias
My ancestors are all amish and descend from the Alsace region. Pretty cool to see they avoided all this turmoil by leaving in the 18th century
The more I listen to these weekly updates, the more I realize how much WWII was just a replay of WWI in so many ways.
Ed G Power Just a different mad man in charge of Germany
Why would anyone dislike these videos??
In 1956 , visiting the Hartmannweilerkopf with my dad , we found a bayonet , a German one . I still have it with me today.
Brilliant episode on a rarely covered topic! I really enjoyed this one. More on the Chasseurs Alpins please!
Mein Gott! This is the one place we failed to visit this April, we were based in Moussey, and the place was on our list, but we simply ran out of time. Now i will have to return. We did get to the Linge kopf memorial though.
Bravo et merci Markus pour ce très bel épisode !
I was waiting for this episode since I subscribed TGW, great that you guys covered this topic.
The Great War Simply, an excellent explanation as usual. YOU'RE THE BEST!
My great grandfather fought in this campaign!
Revisiting this in 1942 is so rewarding. It still looks fantastic 😍 High fives all round 👍🏼
Have you done a video on the french foreign legion during the first world war?
Thank you Markus!
Great show as always. A query for a "Who Did What..." episode; German meteorologist Alfred Wegener. He was the first to propose what has been now accepted at 'plate tectonics' and 'continental drift' and was shot in the throat during the Great War. I would certainly enjoy hearing your take on this bit of history. Again, great job!
Very nice video. Thanks. I visited yesterday and will post a vid of the visit. You have a great channel. Thanks for it
I have a question for out of the trenches, were there any very big, bloody, and devastating battles on the colonial fronts that got the nations attention? Thanks for this amazing channel! You are my favorite UA-cam channel!
Tsingtao in China with Japanese and British troops seizing the German colony there in October-November 1914. Then you had the Suez Canal Raid by the Ottomans in late January and early February 1915 which ended in a horrific defeat for them with 1500 casualties for only 32 dead British and Indian troops. The Battle of El Herri on 13 November 1914 saw more than 50% of a French column wiped out by local Berber tribes as part of the Zaian War which became part of WW1.
Those are some early ones I can think of that I would classify as Colonial battles.
Very nice! My great Grand father and all his brothers were from that area and most migrated to America
In the 1880s because I was told it was a
Ways in turmoil.. Ty for the history video it all makes sense now.
That was a fantastic episode!
Awesome as always!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Marcus.
Great episode!
Cant believe im just now finding this channel. My new favorite
Welcome to the show.
Another Fantastic Video!
kentucky fried mackensen
Can't believe how close we are to the end of the war! What an incredible project the Great War has been, amazing that they have stuck with it for so long.
This was nicely informative. I like the name Blue Devils. Great job.
Hey, thanks Indy to have done an episode about the "tombeaux des chasseurs" and, as a French dude, you also make me chuckle with your pronunciation !
Since I’ve been playing Verdun, I never really took much notice in the history of the Vosges front. I’m thankful that this video released.
Very nice video!
Great video. Thank you. Like some others here I did cringe at the pronunciation of the Vosges, but overall great. I hope you do a segment on the battle(s) at Le Linge just north of Hartmannswillerrkopf.
This makes me so proud of mes origines Vosgiennes ✊
Vous n'aurez pas l'Alsace et la Lorraine
Et, malgré vous, nous resterons Français
Vous avez pu germaniser la plaine
Mais notre cœur vous ne l'aurez jamais !
means?
jackstone112 So here is my own very bad translation of this part of the song since I can't find it online.
ALSACE LORRAINE
Vous n'aurez pas l'Alsace et la Lorraine
you will not have Alsace and Lorraine
Et, malgré vous, nous resterons Français
And, despite of you, we will stay Frenchmen
Vous avez pu germaniser la plaine
You were able to germanize the plain
Mais notre cœur vous ne l'aurez jamais.
But you will never have our heart.
Steve Kaczynski Nice poster.
3:39 French Signiture Move!
Another excellent episode. I purpose a "Who Did What in World War I" episode on JFC Fuller. Many of his warfare ideas came to fruition during WWII based on lessons learned in WW I.
I feel so happy that the hartmanswillerkopf is mentioned in the video 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Can you please do a bio special on Raymond Poincaré, President of France for the duration of the war?
And a special on West and Central Africa would be amazing.
Finally an episode on the southern part of the western front, i was wondering what was happening there :D.
Very interesting to learn more about the south end of the front, so seldom mentioned. Could you perhaps follow up on this and cover the north end of the front and review the Marinekorps Flandern in Belgium? Very little is written about them, their daily duties and equipment.
My family lived in that area in both World Wars.
Awsome 👌
For perhaps a new entry in who did what in ww1 could you guys do special on Southern Rhodesia in WW1?
At 4:53 you mention Capitan Ferdinand Belmont, but the image shown says Joseph Belmont.
The information at 4:54 is weird anyway - while the officer and writer was named Joseph Ferdinand Belmont but called Ferdinand as they do in the narration, the dates are also off - Ferdinand Belmont lived 1890 - 1915.
Interesting
I went to Hartmannsweilerkopf with my school just two weeks ago and found a shrapnel.
Can we have an overview episode on the Middle East Campaign?
Indiana Jones Dear Indiana Jones, talking to your from the heart of the land that got divided by the Sykes-Picot agreement (Kurdistan, that is), I've been waiting for this moment only to forget what I had intended to say. Oh here it is: yeah Indy please, I want an episode on how them Brits were doing in the ME campaign
I never realized how much you move
Wow
Will you guys be making more videos that go more into detail on battles or videos about little know battles?
Last time I was this early, Russia still had a stable government!
that means you never got here early?
Exactly
Is it coimng home this time?
🤔
ReconPro What does that mean? I don't understand.
Melissachi Feil
Let's just say that the Germans got fucked this summer in Russia...
Great video Indy! Thanks for the research Marcus! 🅱️🅾️I
What an epic battle! This is modern war.
I remember hearing this dispute over this location in a video game, called Empire: total war.
it would be cool to make a movie or a small series about this area with the ending of it being the troops marching by seeing the bodies of the people whose stories were told in the series
My great great uncle was involved in this as a corporal. He was in H company of the 351 regiment and was a private
Mein Opa war in Hartmsnnsweilerkopf beim Lichtmess. Er hat überlebt. Er war da in 1963 als Tourist aber wollte nicht aus dem Wagen steigen. Er meinte dass diese Zeit in seinem Leben das aller schlimmste war. Viele seiner Freunde liegen noch da.
You should do a video on Bashford Deans experimental American helmets and body armor
I like lamp
I like desk
Aramis419 I like reply
Pütin Madamir I like Flo.
I like Nickelback.
Hi indi and crew this is a question out of the trenches how did the front line stop at the swiss
border i mean did it just ended or was there a lot swiss troops and trenches there and did anyone tried to sneek around anyway keep doing your thing
Lorraine is my girlfriends name. But she don’t know she’s my girlfriend yet
She knows. She is just teasing you.
John Ferguson seems like it sometimes but then she goes and talks to everyone in school but me
:(
Does she have a pretty Alsace?
Sounds like something France would've said in 1913! :D
Were mountain troops issued with different sights on their rifles? I know from watching forgotten weapons that the standard zero often left soldiers aiming at their enemy's boots at 100m.. I can only imagine how hard an uphill shot with standard sights would be..
I thought the Vosges were a quiet part of the western front
you and I just learned something Duke!
A video on French West Africa, please. Your viewers and subscribers should learn something about this topic.
I am smelling some francophobia right there.
This would be awesome, i feel like we dont know alot about what happened in Africa, and yes i did watch all weekly episodes.
Ekmal Sukarno Ymir
Biggus Dickus this is not francophobia. I just want people to learn about what happened in the French colonies during WWI.
Ekmal Sukarno I can't pretend it was a glorious page of France history but you should learn about Blaise Diagne, you could be surprised.
30,000 men lost for such a small piece of earth is horrifying. Then you remember that 300,000 men died at Verdun. This is modern war.
Question for the Trenches: What was the actual process used to build these concrete bunkers right on the frontlines? It seems like they made awfully straight and well-made forts considering they were pouring cement in the wilderness, presumably under fire.
I wonder how many takes did it take or how much fun did Indy has saying Hartmannswillerkopf
Dats our Boi!
Although I'm sure you get this a lot I'm just gonna go ahead and say that I love the show and keep um comin, anyways in the first world war how often and for what purposes where dogs used in the first world war?
Arditi is my favorite
1:52 when the tricolour coresses your head and the shock hits you that you are now french.....and your friend behind you realise the same thing.
Just curieus what is goning to happen after the treaty
I remember this battle thanks to the game Verdun.
Indy, the information posted at 4:54 must be incorrect because it contradicts what is later said about Captain Belmont dying during the last battle for the mountain top in Dec 1915. Also, if he had been born in 1850, he would have been 65 years old at the time of the fighting. Other sources place his birth in 1890 and his death in 1915, which would appear much more consistent with the events described.
Jeden den das Thema Gebirgskrieg interessiert sollte das Buch „das Ende der alten Armee“ von Fritz Weber lesen. Es geht um den Krieg in den Südtiroler beehren Aus Sicht eines Österreichers. Gibt es zwar nur noch gebraucht da keine neue Auflage aber höchst spannend!
Alsace-Lorraine, you sauce Betty
I am from Castroville, where they still speak alsation of 1848
Over a thousand likes and ten thousand views and not one dislike yet.
Excuse me but how were some trenches in Vosges 10 meters apart that’s just crazy one side could attack at any moment without sustaining large casualties
Nice kukri
The last lesson 😥😥 was true
I thought you didn't do specials on individual battles?
Two years of intense fighting in various different ways plus information about the whole region is hardly an individual battle. ;)
So sad
As the History of the Germans podcast says, the French always, always wanted Lothringen.😜
Just curious did anyone else read John Keegan?
You should do a second episode about the fighting in the Vosges Mountains in Alsace-Lorraine about the Battle of Le Linge, July - October 1915. Unless did you already cover this battle in the regular episodes?
That would be very interesting, I have been there once, would love to learn more
I went to Le Linge just two weeks ago. I have a WW1 Instagram page and wrote about the battle myself here, if you're interested. instagram.com/p/BkSpx_mle3p/?taken-by=ww1photos_info
I'll follow!
Thanks! :)
A queation for out of the trenchs. When did it look the most like the central powers where going to win the war
1914-1916 maybe
Lol, was already wondering if there was any fighting near the Swiss border. Question: how was the situation "at the end of the line", where it touched the Swiss border? How was that regulated?
In other words "how did the Swiss prevent both sides from using their territory for "end runs" around the other's position?"
hagamapama Indeed!
From Wikipedia:
"Switzerland maintained a state of armed neutrality during the First World War. However, with two of the Central Powers (Germany and Austria-Hungary) and two of the Entente Powers (France and Italy) all sharing borders and populations with Switzerland, neutrality proved difficult. From December 1914 until the spring of 1918 Swiss troops were deployed in the Jura along the French border over concern that the trench war might spill into Switzerland.
"Of lesser concern was the Italian border, but troops were also stationed in the Unterengadin region of Graubünden.[1] While the German-speaking majority in Switzerland generally favored the Central Powers, the French- and, later, Italian-speaking populations sided with the Entente Powers, which would cause conflict in 1918. However, the country managed to keep out of the war.
"During the war Switzerland was blockaded by the Allies and therefore suffered some difficulties. However, because Switzerland was centrally located, neutral, and generally undamaged, the war allowed the growth of the Swiss banking industry.[1] For the same reasons, Switzerland became a haven for refugees and revolutionaries."
So they had a large concentration of men at that point to keep enterprising junior officers out of their territory and both sides probably knew that any incursion into Switzerland would expand the trench war right across Europe, with deadly results for both sides.
I have a serious question. Has France by now set up a strategic agreement strengthening Belgium's boarder with others by now? I mean, this isn't just something that is important for threats of invading warriors. I am pretty sure that loop hole spill over into other subjects somehow.Illegal activity and other b.s. You know what I mean?
Remember: Make a video about the U.S. Marines, what did they do in ww1, and what was their reputation during ww2. Also how did other Europeans that encountered them viewed them during and after ww1.
so many death for nothing well that war
Is it just me, or is the sound really rough on this one?
6:40 ''red devils''. maybe my coffee hadn't kicked in yet but shloudn;t it be blue devlis?
At the beginning of the video, he spoke about Chasseurs Alpins, mountains troops which have blue devils as their nicknames. But later, he speaks about the 152e regiment, regular infantery which have red devils as nicknames. All fine.
Hello
Belmont was born in 1890 and died in 1915...
Well, the French invaded Lorraine first and then went right into Alsace. This area was right near the Rhine and it was prince territory wants to the Germans during the Franco Prussian war in 1870 or 8071, and after Germany declare war on France and Russia, 1 August 1914, France, and Germany were preparing offensive and defensive lines, and France first invaded Lorraine & The only difference between the two areas is that one is a little bit to the north, and the other is slightly to the south, and yet they were combined into one battle, even though they were really a bit separate… even if only separated, but a few days. The French lost when the German went on counteroffensive
Indy & everyone, is it coming home?
🤔
Nope, Belgium FTW!!
Since the trophy is called Jules Rimet, named after a Frenchman, wouldn't "it's coming home" mean coming home to France?
ReconPro it's coming home to Brussels
Whoever wins it, it's in the allies' hands now. Most probably France.
Germany still can win...wait.