They are quickly becoming inconsequential I think. I mean the fact that the Democrats had to PAY them for vocal support tells you that the relationship has become toxic on both ends. The Democrat politicians will see it as a waste of money and the celebrities will see it as a waste of time and reputation. 2024 was a Lose/Lose situation for both parties and that has to have some sort of influence going forward. There was a time not too long ago in American politics where celebrities tended to stay out of politics altogether. I think (hope) those days are returning.
The old Peter (who was my favorite professor - critical thinking), would have instead spent time promoting the good ideas of the left rather than saying "It's not because the left doesn't have good ideas". Sacrificing intellectual bravery for subscribers and a seat at the table, I fear.
It is absolutely critical that voter ID is mandatory for the next election. As in change the Constitution. From NZ, the rest of the world relies on America being on the right path. Thank goodness for this election's result.
Voter ID laws don't impact elections in the US because in-person voter fraud basically never happens, around 0.00025%. You are more likely to be struck by lightning than a person who tries to commit in-person voter fraud. Other forms of voting fraud and voting miscount are the majority of voter fraud, so if you actually want to make elections more secure, Voter ID laws are effectively useless.
I think Australia should introduce Voter ID (simple - driver's licence or equivalent (available now at Service NSW for a nominal fee, or even make it free!!!) before any crisis is reached.
What the hell do you mean? Thank goodness for this election's result? Why are you celebrating another Hitler coming into power in America based upon vile and disgusting racist lies that were easily disproven?
How many intelligent Americans doubted their thoughts every time they listened to mainstream news the past four years. Right became labeled as wrong and wrong as right. Listening to this discussion of such sound logic, assures me I am not in a simulation of some kind. Hallelujah Trump is back in office and can hopefully bring our great country and humanity back. God continue to bless us!
Apart from missing the fact that Musk came from a rich South African family - it would be a significant stretch to call him an 'immigrant success'. Usually when such terms are used they're talking about people who built something from nothing.
Peter I like hearing from you. We were both in the same industry of education. I will be retiring the end of January but my time at the high school were I slave away.
@@NightsideOfParadise I hate to break it to you, but there are no such things as psychics, therefore nobody really knows what you mean when you post just an emoji, so I'm not exactly sure why you even bothered to comment.
@patrickparker4576 I guess he meant insult toward you sir, just because those problematic words like Africa, immigrant were inserted in sentence. I think he is bleeding liberal just like me sir.😊
One thing I would say, is that I dont think Trumps ideas were put under scrutiny by Joe Rogan. I watched the full 3 hours and he treated him like a good friend.
I like it when you are sincere Peter and you are totally spot on from 3:33 on, but please take care of not being sucked into culture wars emotionally like for example Jordan Peterson. Don't lose your socratic grounding, your voice is more important than ever
@@kennethmeeker6369 silly comment. Also highly emotional. So that’s weird. There was nothing else to say. The other commenter was expressing a concern that was clearly spelled out, and I’m clearly saying it has already happened. It is well underway. Clearly. 🙄 If you cared about discussion you can engage in one though. Or you can be emotional. Whatever floats your boat man.
fer real. Barely any and he definitely didn't press him. Trump just ignored, didn't answer and kept rambling/lying. I heard for years from joe rogan and his fans that long-form interviews would be useful in politics because it's hard to hide who you are for 3 hours. If 'who you are' is a narcissistic liar and people already love you for it, 3 hours is probably going to further cement that.
Trump is a business man, he doesn't know anything about science and tech. He's also old.... What he's good at is making deals. Hopefully his team will keep him right. He should be sitting by the fire waffling away to his dog like most 78 year olds!
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The left doesn’t expose their idea to criticism. 🙄 It’s the extreme left Peter. And the extreme right. They are one and the same. How disappointing to know that your efforts to expose bad thinking are limited to one group.
@NightsideOfParadise . Lol. You cannot be serious. Kamala ran as a centrist candidate. She offered to have Republicans in her cabinet. Trump is not conservative at all. He's radical. You guys wanted him to burn down the system and congratulations... you're going to get your way
@@NightsideOfParadise you really think the far left is more of a threat than the far right? Isn't it just crazy college protesters and activists? why do so many people even give them the time of day?
Trump admitted on Rogan that he had no idea who to appoint the first time around. I don't think he'll make the same mistakes again. As long as he stays alive
Excellent and insightful assessment of the left and the possibilities of what Elon Musk and other techies can do in the next four years with an administration that is not contrary to them.
Hey any former Thunderf00t channel people here? I unsubbed from his channel some time ago when he just wouldnt stop making hate content about musk. Now i show my kids his channel so they know what a u3s3fool id10t looks like. I also show them peters stuff. Peter needs to head education reform in the US.
Boy….i don’t know that I’d call EM an intellectual in the sense you meant Peter. I also think you’re giving both sides too much credit. Its opportunism. All sides actually. Sure the left has become too smug for its own good but the right is too at the top. But they hide it better. People like EM will switch sides as often as they need to. Had Harris won, he would have chilled for a bit, let the dust settle and become friends with her administration.
Exposing yourself to criticism isn't helpful if your response is to get better at lying. Trump has been exposed to criticism constantly for insane things he does over and over and over and it doesn't matter at all to the people that support him. The issue here is waaaaaay more complex than just exposing people to criticism.
I was once a supporter of Peter because of his critical thinking and his willingness to call out the radical left. But over the years he seems to have failed to use his reason and critical thinking when it comes to the Trump world (I don't call it conservative because it doesn't warrant that label.) Elon Musk has values that should disgust any decent person. And for that I can give you a hell of a lot of evidence. Happy to offer it any time you are interested Peter.
Representing people who haven't achieved much in the world (whatever that means) can I just say I've always liked Peter, but he's spouting absolute horse manure here. His point about not questioning your own ideas and the refusal to do that becoming habitual resulting in the inability to take on board any kind of criticism (from oneself or others) applies 100% to both Elon and The Donald. I used to take Peter at his word that he was always sincere, I can no longer do so after this cringeworthy assessment.
What’s about religious things republicans believe for and try to mandate it dear Peter can you explain us little bit about that also as you are scientific thinker please:
We neglect and ignore how much climate has to do with influencing our behaviour and evolution. I'm of Irish, Scottish & Viking descent, 3rd generation (1860s) Australian. If it's cold, you'll invent something to keep warm or die. If soil freezes over 9 months of the year, you'll preserve it & hunt meat. You'll invent a way to cloythe & shelter yourself. Living in warmer/hot climates, the population doesn't have to do any of those things as much to survive.
That's a pretty racist thing to say. You prefer people from "cold climate Asia"? You mean Siberian Russians, communist Chinese and North Koreans? You realise South Korea, Japan and the Philippines are former American colonies right?
Wow... you don't seem to understand the reason people is systems analysis at all. It isn't necessarily wrong that some people who are underachieving will neglect their own role in outcomes, but the fact that the system much more heavily impacts people on the negative side, statistically speaking, than it does for the few beneficiaries, that it's simply far more likely for a critic of the system to fall into that category. Are these people supposed to be excluded from critiquing the system simply because they've not achieved some great success? This misses the whole point of systems analysis, which is to ask why the system is creating negative outcomes at all, and objectively how we can improve on that. It's pretentious to blame the individuals and to assume they think in the same narcissistic way that those who benefit from it are doing. It's also perfectly reasonable that people look at the environmental impacts humanity is having and rationally decide they don't want to contribute more than necessary to such a destructive system
Peter, an asymmetrical smile indicates contempt (see the research on emotional expression by Paul Ekman). Look at the thumbnail for this video. Is that what you intended to convey?
If I remember correctly: It depends on the eyes. A look of contempt is slightly different from a "wry smile" which can also convey a sense of mischief or irony.
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You are so correct peter and I think you would make a great secretary of education
Let's not forget all the music and Hollywood millionaires who support them
They are quickly becoming inconsequential I think. I mean the fact that the Democrats had to PAY them for vocal support tells you that the relationship has become toxic on both ends. The Democrat politicians will see it as a waste of money and the celebrities will see it as a waste of time and reputation. 2024 was a Lose/Lose situation for both parties and that has to have some sort of influence going forward. There was a time not too long ago in American politics where celebrities tended to stay out of politics altogether. I think (hope) those days are returning.
The old Peter (who was my favorite professor - critical thinking), would have instead spent time promoting the good ideas of the left rather than saying "It's not because the left doesn't have good ideas". Sacrificing intellectual bravery for subscribers and a seat at the table, I fear.
That doesn't sound insane at all, that is precisely my issue with the left and my fear for a Kamala presidency.
It is absolutely critical that voter ID is mandatory for the next election. As in change the Constitution.
From NZ, the rest of the world relies on America being on the right path. Thank goodness for this election's result.
Voter ID laws don't impact elections in the US because in-person voter fraud basically never happens, around 0.00025%. You are more likely to be struck by lightning than a person who tries to commit in-person voter fraud. Other forms of voting fraud and voting miscount are the majority of voter fraud, so if you actually want to make elections more secure, Voter ID laws are effectively useless.
I think Australia should introduce Voter ID (simple - driver's licence or equivalent (available now at Service NSW for a nominal fee, or even make it free!!!) before any crisis is reached.
They'll still fake it when they want.
What the hell do you mean? Thank goodness for this election's result? Why are you celebrating another Hitler coming into power in America based upon vile and disgusting racist lies that were easily disproven?
How many intelligent Americans doubted their thoughts every time they listened to mainstream news the past four years. Right became labeled as wrong and wrong as right. Listening to this discussion of such sound logic, assures me I am not in a simulation of some kind. Hallelujah Trump is back in office and can hopefully bring our great country and humanity back. God continue to bless us!
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The Bowie knives and machetes were pulled out when Elon left the Left.
It's the old story of Cain and Able...
Those who cannot create, destroy.
Of course, if you aren't smart enough to create or destructive enough to destroy, there is always investing.
Jealousy is the very foundation of Marxist ideology that current Leftist Collectivism is based on
Sane people don't destroy, you have to recognize that some individuals are just going to excel through god given talents, vision and hard work.
That’s exactly what Trump says he blames the system and the institutions.
Peter for Secretary of Education
Yes yes yes!
A conspiracy without conspirators... a system. This was a very insightful framing of left wing dogma
Everything this guy said is true. Spot on.
Not really.
Only if you live in his ideological bubble
TRue.
Harris the puppet of the Establishment will use the organs of state to destroy Musk as directed by them
Apart from missing the fact that Musk came from a rich South African family - it would be a significant stretch to call him an 'immigrant success'. Usually when such terms are used they're talking about people who built something from nothing.
I tell people reality is much more weird than fiction.
Peter I like hearing from you. We were both in the same industry of education. I will be retiring the end of January but my time at the high school were I slave away.
Really interesting observation - when was the last ground breaking Hungarian scientist?
There have been a ton, but obviously you're not capable of using Google.
@@patrickparker4576 Brommear asked, 'when was the last', not how many
@vinivini8969 He wasn't asking when was the last, he was implying that there aren't any.
@@patrickparker4576 Since you know what I was implying, why do you not answer the question?
@Brommear because the premise upon what you based the question was false. As I demonstrated.
Musk: our greatest African-American immigrant!
Racist.
@@patrickparker4576 👊😩👊
@@NightsideOfParadise I hate to break it to you, but there are no such things as psychics, therefore nobody really knows what you mean when you post just an emoji, so I'm not exactly sure why you even bothered to comment.
@@patrickparker4576 I was mocking identity politics and clowns like you. Keep trying to read my mind!
@patrickparker4576 I guess he meant insult toward you sir, just because those problematic words like Africa, immigrant were inserted in sentence.
I think he is bleeding liberal just like me sir.😊
You’re sooooo on it peter!!! 🙌🙌🙌
And re stocks - totally
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One thing I would say, is that I dont think Trumps ideas were put under scrutiny by Joe Rogan. I watched the full 3 hours and he treated him like a good friend.
What is the evidence that Harris would have used the power of the state to destroy Musk?
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I like it when you are sincere Peter and you are totally spot on from 3:33 on, but please take care of not being sucked into culture wars emotionally like for example Jordan Peterson. Don't lose your socratic grounding, your voice is more important than ever
Too late
@@Sharetheroad3333that’s it ! Two words no thoughts no explanation your who there speaking of .
@@kennethmeeker6369 silly comment. Also highly emotional. So that’s weird.
There was nothing else to say. The other commenter was expressing a concern that was clearly spelled out, and I’m clearly saying it has already happened.
It is well underway. Clearly. 🙄
If you cared about discussion you can engage in one though. Or you can be emotional. Whatever floats your boat man.
This video shows he's already lost it. As Trump would say 'very sad'. Why do so many people spell 'lose' with a double o?
@@kennethmeeker6369 They are clearly referring to Peter's shameful rant in this video. My explanation can be read above.
Good to meet you Peter. My budget is low. Which two of your books should I purchase?
That's exactly what is happening to Bill Maher.
Hey Mr Fauci, pack your suitcase we’re off to Nuremberg!
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Which of Trumps ideas (if there were any) did Rogan scrutinize?
fer real. Barely any and he definitely didn't press him. Trump just ignored, didn't answer and kept rambling/lying.
I heard for years from joe rogan and his fans that long-form interviews would be useful in politics because it's hard to hide who you are for 3 hours. If 'who you are' is a narcissistic liar and people already love you for it, 3 hours is probably going to further cement that.
@@rustyreview exactly.
Trump is a business man, he doesn't know anything about science and tech. He's also old.... What he's good at is making deals. Hopefully his team will keep him right. He should be sitting by the fire waffling away to his dog like most 78 year olds!
@@Sharetheroad3333loser…go hang out with the other eunuchs.
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Now, Musk and Bezos get government contracts.
Anything better than Veep throat....
The left doesn’t expose their idea to criticism.
🙄
It’s the extreme left Peter. And the extreme right. They are one and the same.
How disappointing to know that your efforts to expose bad thinking are limited to one group.
I am sure his smart enough to understand that bad ideas aren't coming from just left but at the moment far left is the main problem.
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He needs to distinguish.
@NightsideOfParadise . Lol. You cannot be serious. Kamala ran as a centrist candidate. She offered to have Republicans in her cabinet.
Trump is not conservative at all. He's radical.
You guys wanted him to burn down the system and congratulations... you're going to get your way
Test
@@NightsideOfParadise you really think the far left is more of a threat than the far right? Isn't it just crazy college protesters and activists? why do so many people even give them the time of day?
Precisely right: People believe capitalism is a zero-sum game, and billionaires steal opportunity and success from them.
Dumb spousal-type question: is that rock background real?
I suspect Trump will have a selection of many wise advisors like Peter. Hopefully much wiser choices are made, this time.
Trump admitted on Rogan that he had no idea who to appoint the first time around. I don't think he'll make the same mistakes again. As long as he stays alive
Excellent and insightful assessment of the left and the possibilities of what Elon Musk and other techies can do in the next four years with an administration that is not contrary to them.
👍
Can i put a vote in fir another chat GPT debate please.
Hey any former Thunderf00t channel people here? I unsubbed from his channel some time ago when he just wouldnt stop making hate content about musk. Now i show my kids his channel so they know what a u3s3fool id10t looks like. I also show them peters stuff. Peter needs to head education reform in the US.
😂😂😂😂
Sounding a lot like a book I read just can't remember the authors name. 🤔 something about resentment...
Boy….i don’t know that I’d call EM an intellectual in the sense you meant Peter. I also think you’re giving both sides too much credit. Its opportunism. All sides actually. Sure the left has become too smug for its own good but the right is too at the top. But they hide it better. People like EM will switch sides as often as they need to. Had Harris won, he would have chilled for a bit, let the dust settle and become friends with her administration.
Exposing yourself to criticism isn't helpful if your response is to get better at lying. Trump has been exposed to criticism constantly for insane things he does over and over and over and it doesn't matter at all to the people that support him. The issue here is waaaaaay more complex than just exposing people to criticism.
Yes, Peter's gone off the deep end here with his massive over simplications.
@@markoss3876 correct
@@faustoferrari4303
Correct
The denial is strong with you people.
@@jmtigerfan4765 The denial of what exactly?
I was once a supporter of Peter because of his critical thinking and his willingness to call out the radical left. But over the years he seems to have failed to use his reason and critical thinking when it comes to the Trump world (I don't call it conservative because it doesn't warrant that label.) Elon Musk has values that should disgust any decent person. And for that I can give you a hell of a lot of evidence. Happy to offer it any time you are interested Peter.
Trying to listen to this but can't get over the guy 2nd from left....Is he in Shorts???????🤨😛
yup! probably aussie or kiwi...
Do you see nowwwww???
Endless nonsense
He's talking about resentment. The deadliest of all emotions. As the saying goes..."they don't care about the poor, they just hate the rich."
Dr. Peterson brought that to public consciousness even if he didn’t say it first.
Representing people who haven't achieved much in the world (whatever that means) can I just say I've always liked Peter, but he's spouting absolute horse manure here. His point about not questioning your own ideas and the refusal to do that becoming habitual resulting in the inability to take on board any kind of criticism (from oneself or others) applies 100% to both Elon and The Donald. I used to take Peter at his word that he was always sincere, I can no longer do so after this cringeworthy assessment.
hmmm
What’s about religious things republicans believe for and try to mandate it dear Peter can you explain us little bit about that also as you are scientific thinker please:
The Left and the Right are two wings on the same bird of prey.
Maybe so, but the right wing is putrid and decaying and makes me want to vomit. The right wing laughs at watermelon jokes.
@@jeffersonianideal correct. It’s called the horse shoe theory.
"cold climate Asians". I think they're my favourite type.
Northern China gets very very cold in the winter, along with North Korea.
We neglect and ignore how much climate has to do with influencing our behaviour and evolution. I'm of Irish, Scottish & Viking descent, 3rd generation (1860s) Australian. If it's cold, you'll invent something to keep warm or die. If soil freezes over 9 months of the year, you'll preserve it & hunt meat. You'll invent a way to cloythe & shelter yourself. Living in warmer/hot climates, the population doesn't have to do any of those things as much to survive.
That's a pretty racist thing to say. You prefer people from "cold climate Asia"? You mean Siberian Russians, communist Chinese and North Koreans?
You realise South Korea, Japan and the Philippines are former American colonies right?
Wow... you don't seem to understand the reason people is systems analysis at all.
It isn't necessarily wrong that some people who are underachieving will neglect their own role in outcomes, but the fact that the system much more heavily impacts people on the negative side, statistically speaking, than it does for the few beneficiaries, that it's simply far more likely for a critic of the system to fall into that category.
Are these people supposed to be excluded from critiquing the system simply because they've not achieved some great success?
This misses the whole point of systems analysis, which is to ask why the system is creating negative outcomes at all, and objectively how we can improve on that.
It's pretentious to blame the individuals and to assume they think in the same narcissistic way that those who benefit from it are doing.
It's also perfectly reasonable that people look at the environmental impacts humanity is having and rationally decide they don't want to contribute more than necessary to such a destructive system
Peter has lost his way and gone off the deep end. Perhaps he was always lost. However I thought he was a decent person.
Either way. He’s gone now.
Musk came here legally, not through the texas border.
What’s the major difference between those two types of immigrants?…capital.
Peter you're talking total Bullsh*t now. Not EVERY person nomatter how hard they work can become a rich person. You're talking absolute bullsh*t.
Peter, an asymmetrical smile indicates contempt (see the research on emotional expression by Paul Ekman). Look at the thumbnail for this video. Is that what you intended to convey?
That's not contempt for the people - it's contempt for their ultra crappy ideas
It is contempt or dominance... don't just say what you only want to. Finish the darn statement.
An unexpected insightful insight. Boghossian is dripping with arrogance and contempt.
If I remember correctly: It depends on the eyes. A look of contempt is slightly different from a "wry smile" which can also convey a sense of mischief or irony.
There are billionaires on both sides of political scene, and you just being played.
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