@@craigmcvay1 true, I do incredibly simple and amateur stop motion and it takes me long enough, stop motion on this level of professionalism must take forever to perfect
I fell in love with stop motion back when I was 14 in 2014. Today, I still do stop motion videos on my channel. I hope I can make a living out of it because having this passion for stop motion also makes me value and love my actions figures even more.
The Terminator would not be that hard to animate I'd imagine. It could be a tiny bit jerky because, well it's a humanoid robot, so It would be okay for it to have an 80's stop motion look!
Stan Winston School I have just discovered Dynamation myself! I am working a few stop motion videos right now! One thing I have in mind is a Terminator fan-fiction.
For me Today; I'd use a blue screen lit at a distance so the reflection wouldn't be much of a problem. Shoot it with Dragon frame, then chroma key the results. Lighting and reflections (due to the shiny surface) can be performed by using color cards or screens out of frame. Problem with that example method is: you cannot create motion blur on the puppet due to the combined image; the figure will be much sharper than the source, and there would be focus depth issues (depending on lens used).
Thanks for the video. Getting through Lazzarini's Organic Animatronic Lesson. Remember watching footage of Phil Tippet doing stop motion for the tauntaun in Empire
@Raymond Doetjes I believe when they were trying to sell stop motion for the first Jurassic Park movie, they created a technique of vibrating the puppets in certain ways to give the illusion of motion blur. From what I remember of the behind-the-scenes videos, it worked quite well
At the risk of sounding like a spambot. I made a live action / stop motion terminator action scene and animated it against a greenscreen. Turned out ok! (The video is called 'final Termination')
I always miss the motion blur in stop motion, that is something that need to be added to give it some realism in the motion. So simply having a 3D animated model with an environment map that is the live action footage gives proper reflections and you can add the motion blur on top of it with composting. Face it stop motion is dead. Live Puppeteering certainly not but stop motion naah. And rear projection certainly is still a viable tool to use.
Well, yes and no. "Spill" from blue or green screen can be avoided by making sure the figure of the puppet is far enough away from the backing so as not to get contaminated with blue reflections, and careful lighting and "barn-dooring" of the key and fill lights on the foreground subject will also aid in non reflections. It ain't easy but it can be done. Also there was a tried and true method from the old days called "front-light back-light" to create an in-camera method of traveling matte but it only worked for animation and stop-motion. Still, the above is a VERY simplified version of what most animators did up until the '90's.
Great stuff. More films should use a lot more stop motion and a lot less cgi crap, there's a real magic to good stop motion and why I'd much rather watch an old 80's or 90's film over most of today's cgi filled crap. Good old special effects are awesome, animatronic puppetry and gory shit too.
The one bad thing about rear projection is that sometimes the temperature color of the stop motion puppet dosent match the movie and then it ends up looking fake
You should use lights with same color temperature as your projection screen. I'm experimenting with rear projection a lot and learned some things about it, and how to make it better.
This is why it takes a good while to make a movie! There are many other affects and processes a movie can go through that would double or even triple that amount of time required for those few seconds!
Looks like in T2 they didn't use stop motion like they did in the original, might have been animatronic or costumes instead as the movement is more natural looking and it definitely isn't CG.
Actually they used stop motion in the opening for the T-800 figures in the background, but because there was also t-800 puppets in the foreground you wouldn't really notice
So he moved the endoskeleton's arm, but how does the animator's arm not appear in the actual footage, I really want to understand how stop-motion works
Daniel Dimov the smoves the sceleton a bit, then he makes a photo of it. after the foto is taken, he moves the figure again (a litte) and takes a photo again. after that he combines every photo to get a video out of it. to get a smooth animation, you should have a standard (video standard) of 24fps (frames per second), which means you take 24 pictures for 1 sekond of video
Daniel Dimov same. Thats the meaning behind fps. Frames (pictures) per second. Video in 1080p30fps means it shoots 30 images à 1920x1080pixels per second
Daniel Dimov if the framerate is higher the shot looks smoother. But the human eye can see around 25fps. Everything below 24fps will look like is stocking. Higher frame rates like 60fps, 120fps etc are only made for video to make slow motion..
There is plenty of successful CG out there. Of course, when it IS successful, you won't even know it's there. Thus, if all you see is CG that's noticeable (unrealistic) then you'll think there is no such thing as realistic CG. Critical thinking. Try it!
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Love the old school stop motion. Pretty awesome, and a lost art.
it may be a lost "art" but it is frustrating and time consuming watch this ua-cam.com/video/F76ttUhSkhs/v-deo.html
@@craigmcvay1 true, I do incredibly simple and amateur stop motion and it takes me long enough, stop motion on this level of professionalism must take forever to perfect
Don't you mean extinct? A play off of the Jurassic Park story. But yes, stop motion is quickly becoming a lost art, and make no mistake, it is an art.
Stop motion brings back so many memories. Stop motion use to make some horror movies look really scary when i was young.
I have always loved behind the scenes footage this channel is like a dream come true. its just amazing what you learn.
Glad you like our channel. We have much more monster making to share!
I fell in love with stop motion back when I was 14 in 2014. Today, I still do stop motion videos on my channel. I hope I can make a living out of it because having this passion for stop motion also makes me value and love my actions figures even more.
The Terminator would not be that hard to animate I'd imagine. It could be a tiny bit jerky because, well it's a humanoid robot, so It would be okay for it to have an 80's stop motion look!
Good point! Are you going to animate something, then????? - John
Stan Winston School I have just discovered Dynamation myself! I am working a few stop motion videos right now! One thing I have in mind is a Terminator fan-fiction.
Sounds awesome, Dinoman217, please share it when you're done. - David
the serie did have animated robotss
Comandante Papirrin
Well, fabricating puppets has proven more difficult than I anticipated!
Rear projection set up right can look superb, believe me.
For me Today; I'd use a blue screen lit at a distance so the reflection wouldn't be much of a problem. Shoot it with Dragon frame, then chroma key the results. Lighting and reflections (due to the shiny surface) can be performed by using color cards or screens out of frame. Problem with that example method is: you cannot create motion blur on the puppet due to the combined image; the figure will be much sharper than the source, and there would be focus depth issues (depending on lens used).
She's bayyudd!
Amazing. I wish I'm going to buy the 12inch skeleton figure from Terminator. I never find it on Amazon online store 🙁
Great! I Never thought this idea. Thanks a lot. Good old movietricks 😃
So simple yet very effective
That is so cool to watch! Very realistic movements!👌😎👍
Thanks for the video. Getting through Lazzarini's Organic Animatronic Lesson. Remember watching footage of Phil Tippet doing stop motion for the tauntaun in Empire
Whoever invented this visual effect
simply genius.
Willis O'Brien
Love stop motion, 👍 it can help to give a sinister effect for moving creatures. Anyone remember Sinbad ?
@Raymond Doetjes
I believe when they were trying to sell stop motion for the first Jurassic Park movie, they created a technique of vibrating the puppets in certain ways to give the illusion of motion blur. From what I remember of the behind-the-scenes videos, it worked quite well
Great explanation of the concept here.
This is the real deal, thank you
dragonframe, always a go to.
Please continue doing stop motion techniques, that was extremely interesting!
At the risk of sounding like a spambot. I made a live action / stop motion terminator action scene and animated it against a greenscreen. Turned out ok! (The video is called 'final Termination')
Thats so cool
Wow really cool you could tell it was stop motion in the movie but didn't know they did it in front of a actual screen not green screen
Stan Winston se rodeaba de puro taletooo!!! soy mega fanatico de su trabajo!!! desde mexico un Saludos a los Fans del trabajo de Winston
"Camille, how bad do you want the part?"
Stop motion can still be used today, today they can smooth the transitions digitally that otherwise told us it was stopmotion.
AWESOME VIDEO!
I would've done anything for that Terminator model as a kid.
Hell, I'll do anything for it now!
un trabajo magnifico
really good stuff
great old school technique! but hey...he used a SIDESHOW Terminator ;)
Show de bola!
BAM
+The Kraken 2:32-- What do you mean you don't have my money?!
I always miss the motion blur in stop motion, that is something that need to be added to give it some realism in the motion.
So simply having a 3D animated model with an environment map that is the live action footage gives proper reflections and you can add the motion blur on top of it with composting.
Face it stop motion is dead. Live Puppeteering certainly not but stop motion naah. And rear projection certainly is still a viable tool to use.
+Raymond Doetjes What about movies like Paranorman?? I don't think it's dead, it's just another way
I want this terminator figure
this is realy usefull for a wallace and gromit stuff or Ray Haryhausen stuff ^^
Im gonna make it there someday
Well, yes and no. "Spill" from blue or green screen can be avoided by making sure the figure of the puppet is far enough away from the backing so as not to get contaminated with blue reflections, and careful lighting and "barn-dooring" of the key and fill lights on the foreground subject will also aid in non reflections. It ain't easy but it can be done. Also there was a tried and true method from the old days called "front-light back-light" to create an in-camera method of traveling matte but it only worked for animation and stop-motion. Still, the above is a VERY simplified version of what most animators did up until the '90's.
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Ésa forma de firmar cada escena le daba más realismo además de hacer al T-800 mas aterrador.
This was 10 years ago 🤯
Rear projection...WON'T BE BACK.
just watched it ;)
Yo! Wonder if I can apply this to Transformers using the alternators.
TAKE MY MONEY STAN WINSTON SCHOOL!!!!
Terminator stop motion, old, not obsolete.
One slap like that and you are knocked out 🤣🤣🤣
"Looks great... .... ...."
hey man who did you paste a fly on your picture? :D its cool!
cool
Should have shown the actual scenes from the movie that were rear projected as well.
Absolutely right, daboognish88. An oversight on our parts. -Matt
A future war would be so cute if all the terminators were 12 inches tall. :D
Mandalorian basically do the same thing today, but in steroid. Hahaha
where can i buy that stand for figure?
Great stuff. More films should use a lot more stop motion and a lot less cgi crap, there's a real magic to good stop motion and why I'd much rather watch an old 80's or 90's film over most of today's cgi filled crap. Good old special effects are awesome, animatronic puppetry and gory shit too.
Is there any director today using modern stop motion technics to do movies like Star Wars, for exemple ?
They used stop motion in Star Wars: The Force Awakes with that weird board monster "chess game" to recreate the same board they had in the old movies.
Robutt?
Que Bueno terminator T-800
Is that t-600?
It was better when there was not much cgi
And at the end you must say to yourslef: "Petrfect! Amazing! ... "
Quién es la chica?
biltiful girl! fiufiuhhh o.o
If you made a 60FPS stopmotion video and compressed it into 30FPS it should look much more realistic
But 60 fps animation would take such a long time. I can't imagine having to move a puppet 60 times for just one second of screen time.
Not at all Firy, the issue lies elsewhere; motion blur, film gramature, focus diferenciation etc
And there are techniques for that
Настоящий сюткинист.
Terminator
Haha, its cool, but, i wouldnt say it "Looks Great" Theres no slow to fast to slow motion, to make it look more realistic.
It's a robot, they were trying to make it look like a robot by not easing in and easing out.
Jean-Luc Thomas its stop motion , its not going to be fluid , because its stop motion
Who is she full name pls
I make like this when I have 10 year
Perfect....PERFECT!! ......lol
The one bad thing about rear projection is that sometimes the temperature color of the stop motion puppet dosent match the movie and then it ends up looking fake
do u know what color grading/correction is in post processing?
JiNzX115 No, no I don't, what is it?
You should use lights with same color temperature as your projection screen.
I'm experimenting with rear projection a lot and learned some things about it, and how to make it better.
Stop Motion > CGI
For 1 or 2 seconds lots of work...
This is why it takes a good while to make a movie! There are many other affects and processes a movie can go through that would double or even triple that amount of time required for those few seconds!
Looks like in T2 they didn't use stop motion like they did in the original, might have been animatronic or costumes instead as the movement is more natural looking and it definitely isn't CG.
Actually they used stop motion in the opening for the T-800 figures in the background, but because there was also t-800 puppets in the foreground you wouldn't really notice
Heelllooo Camille!
is conan o'brian your son?
boom
NO MOTION BLUR ON THE STOP MOTION
NECA
I take this is like how dynamation was made in a sense
So he moved the endoskeleton's arm, but how does the animator's arm not appear in the actual footage, I really want to understand how stop-motion works
Daniel Dimov the smoves the sceleton a bit, then he makes a photo of it. after the foto is taken, he moves the figure again (a litte) and takes a photo again. after that he combines every photo to get a video out of it. to get a smooth animation, you should have a standard (video standard) of 24fps (frames per second), which means you take 24 pictures for 1 sekond of video
***** Wow, that's gonna be very hard to do. And if you take more than 24 picture per second, let's say 30 pictures per second?
Daniel Dimov same. Thats the meaning behind fps. Frames (pictures) per second.
Video in 1080p30fps means it shoots 30 images à 1920x1080pixels per second
Daniel Dimov if the framerate is higher the shot looks smoother. But the human eye can see around 25fps. Everything below 24fps will look like is stocking.
Higher frame rates like 60fps, 120fps etc are only made for video to make slow motion..
***** So today someone can make a better endoskeleton stop-motion than in 84? But can stop-motion animation be cgi-ed, or cg edited, corrected?
this guy looks like james
Welcome to the family bitch ,... slap xD
For a second there I thought that was Meghan Markle! The future Royal Family sent an endo to the past to stop the wedding. Haha!
That looks cool but I thank that hit would have given anyone in a movie server brain damage or even death because that's a T 800 hydraulic machine.
All I got to say is,...........................I'LL BE BACK!!!
Heavy post processing could save this, but as is it looks horrible. Personally prefer 3D CG over this.
*****
Haha, nice try, but I wont feed you. ^o^
***** I prefer moving ball-socket joints on a latex figure and closing the Camera shutter to pushing buttons on a computer screen myself!
There is plenty of successful CG out there. Of course, when it IS successful, you won't even know it's there. Thus, if all you see is CG that's noticeable (unrealistic) then you'll think there is no such thing as realistic CG.
Critical thinking. Try it!
I know stop motion animation takes time but damn that's just way off.
Body would need to move more to look more natural.
Oh man, she ain't impressed.
Terminator have a 4 fps)
1 second of animation..that's it ?
That's hot toys right?
Mark Tanteo that's 1/4 neca I would say...
И все? А как же натянуть эту девку? )
lol
She thinks she's an actor...
wow...............not
Iron.
nah looks bad and tacky
not perfect