10 Years of Early Windows Gaming 1998 - Episode 8
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:09 Urban Assault (@Maddy-yx6je )
2:10 Civilization II: Mutliplayer Gold Edition (@Ace1000ks19751982 )
4:30 Test Drive 5 (@Bonfirestorm )
6:32 Lords of Magic: Special Edition (@lordsofmagicspecialedition7945 )
8:26 Tribal Rage (@SoMeR5et )
11:18 Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 3D (@polybius9832 )
13:49 Heroes of Might and Magic II: Gold (@thriftweeds )
16:57 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (@TheEriccorpinc )
18:25 Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate (@Introligatorzly )
20:29 The X-Files Game (@AndreaPannocchia )
22:25 Outro
#retrogames #retrogaming #windows #1998 - Ігри
The existence of Tribal Rage was news to me. I'm intrigued! Thanks for making these lists, Janosik. You are building the nerdiest library of Alexandria, and I love it
Remember the time when calling someone nerd or geek was an insult?Now it's a compliment. :)
I love this channel..... Not only are all the videos well thought out and revised, he shows me games iv'e never seen before, and i am 44 years of age.
A lot of the games he does show, i can still get on Steam, GOG or other online sources.
His videos give a real chilled, cosy vibe, and what's best i feel like i'm listening too a mix of inspector Poirot and Puss & Boots.
Now, that's a great mixture! A little serious, a little silly, I mean both Puss and Poirot are classics! Also, thanks a lot for your kind words! :)
And also also, so a double, perhaps grammatically incorrect also (but who cares!?), age is but a number. In this time and day, quite literally. If you look how people looked at 44 fifty years ago, they were more similar to today's 70-year olds. We are the digital generation, and we age like old computer do. So fast but graciously, and we keep style way longer than anyone could've predicted. xD
I don't think I'm making much sense. xD
Lords of Magic was a blast. 98 made me 16. High school, dating my now wife, and oh so many games.
The games were the highlight of the time. There, i said it, whats my wife going to do? Make me sleep on the couch? I already do for the sake of my shoulders and sanity, since she snores like a dragon with a head cold.
Everything about this comment is epic! I don't even know where to start! xD
And yeah, the games were pretty darn awesome! Early Windows was a cradle of creativity for sure!
1998 was such an amazing year. It's so weird we didn't think of it like that at the time, but 1997-2001 or so was such a brief golden age that never really came again.
I'm of a firm believe that video gaming Renaissance comes and goes more or less every 5-7 years. For instance 1993 was amazing, then we had 1997/8, and then 2004/5, and so on.
Nice mix! 98 is one of the years I remember very fondly!
I've 1 or 2 more episodes for the year left in me before I move to 99. xD
18:10 I had no idea you could shoot the guys in the foreground from the background. That's awesome.
:)
It's always hard for me to pick between Heroes 2 and 3 since I love them both... but I have noticed as I grow older I keep going back to HoMM2 more, I think it's the pixel graphics that really does it for me. One of the last great games with that art style before the pre-rendered graphics became the defacto norm.
Yes, that's it! I like both too. But the pre-rendered graphics I feel no nostalgia for (not in Heroes alone but all games). Whereas pixels speak to me on a very deep level. xD
love Lords of Magick OST
The game was pretty decent too.
Played Lords of Magic this year actually. Great game with a lovely soundtrack!
Did you complete it or just a little to have fun? ;)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I completed the base game with the Life mage, which made Easy difficulty that much easier haha. Their archers are incredible OP! One of the few strategy games I’ve finished.
I’ve been meaning to go back and check out the added standalone missions, as I really enjoyed the atmosphere.
@@matternicuss Well here you go, that's something! You know, I've played a lot of games, but there's a handful that I actually finished. So if someone says that they completed something, it had to be special. At least, in my eyes. :)
I took the game away) now I have a complete collection of the Tomb Rider series on GOG! Thanks)
Enjoy! :) I've managed to finally secure few more codes, so the next 4-5 videos should have them again, same as they used to in the past.
Lords of Magic is so underrated. It still does things better than most modern games that try to emulate it.
Yeah, it's surprisingly ingenious. :)
I loved Civilization 1, 2, 3 and 4. Such amazing games. The first was one of few games I could get to run on the school's old 286s at playable speeds. I never could get into the newer ones, unfortunately.
The new ones are great too, but they're so huge, and such a machine of underlying mechanics correlations between things that after playing 50-ish games you can only say that you're pretty new to either of them. And to be a really good player you'd probably need twice as many. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yes, true. The new ones feel so complex and rather intimidating.
@@MrKanjidude They're worth the time and feel really rewarding when you start doing great on the Immortal/Deity difficulties. Also, they're responsible for me realising that I will never best a buddy of mine, that I've been playing Civ for ages. I have a good intuition and a lot of general knowledge when it comes to Civ's underlying mechanics, so I usually do good in them, but he, he has like intimate knowledge of all the inner mechanics. I still like to play, and compete, but it doesn't bother me anymore when I lose to him, cause I know that it's an occurrence that's the most likely outcome.
Love the video! Great work.
Thank you!
And I love your videos too! :)
I was searching for Tribal Rage game for years, I didnt know the name. Thanks :)
Well then, glad that I could help and enjoy! :)
I never manager to complete HOMM 2 and 1 campaigns. Something always got in the way: the computer broke, my brother deleted my save files as punishment, softlocked myself because of poor in-game choices or something else got my attention and I never came back.
Oh, that's just fine. They are best played with others anyway. :)
And play them with others we did. A lot.
necromancers: "we keep what we kill"
Necromongers I think?
@@OldAndNewVideoGames yup, ;)
Early Windows, when I kept wishing my games would run under DOS, so that they could run at all :D
Interesting games in the list today. I'll check out Tribal Rage. The post-apocalyptic world has such charm ^^ Smells like anarchy! (to be read in Duke's voice :D)
Blue mouthwash... Now that makes a lot of sense. I was always curious why mages needed that blue liquid to cast spells. They had to say the encantation with a fresh minty breath, otherwise it wouldn't work.
Imagine that you had to chew all those roots, shrooms and such, you know for spells, so that when they casted them eventually, all they were left with was a bad taste. And smell. So a mouthwash, was a solution. Hence forth, why nearly each and every RPG game features it.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Oh yeah, you're right. Especially if the roots are garlic or onion. The aftertaste isn't too fun.
Funny story. The first time I saw this was in Diablo, but I never played as a mage, so I had no idea what that bowl of blue mouthwash was. I thought it was just for decoration. You know, like the gargoyles. o.o`
@@TeaAndTankControls It's one of the most difficult and demanding jobs out there. Mage that is. Straight after Wizard, Sorcerer, and just before Warlock and Magician. Magician everyone laughs at, as they're only fooling us with tricks and use none of the mouthwash. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames That's why I was always playing as a fighter :D
I've got a friend who does magic tricks. I'll ask him if he uses mouthwash and which colour. I might be wrong, but I've got this theory that magicians use the purple stuff...
@@TeaAndTankControls The magicians... Damn them! I know that they're not using magic but tricks, but I'll be damned if I knew how they work. It's so annoying seeing them put a hand through a shop window, take something out and handle to someone. I know it didn't happen, and yet my eyes tell me that it did. I suppose that's how people with paranoia and schizophrenia might feel. xD
A friend really loved Urban Assault and tried to get me to play it too. Too bad my computer at the time had some problem running it.
Maybe it's time to give it another try, especially if the fanmade source port (that I just now learned about) is in a playable state.
It's a special one, no doubt about that. You don't get to hear about games like it often. And it's pretty darn cool!
Love that Thumbnail!!!!
I'm sure Fox would appreciate the comment. But he's looking for Dana, so he's a bit busy. ;)
Rogue Squadron is a true classic of pew-pewing.
It is is! And boom booming too! xD
Heroes 3 looks fine to me with the HD Mod and it definitely is the better game. Probably the best in the series.
It is the best. Just not for me. I don't dig the pre-rendered graphics. ;)
Urban Assault has some elements of Battlezone (1998). For Microsoft, it's another game which both promotes DirectX and most importantly, Sidewinder joysticks, which were pretty sweet. I've still got my Force Feedback Pro, but I haven't put together the drivers to get it going.
In my brain, Civ II: Multiplayer Gold should be called CivNet II
Test Drive is an odd series.
1&2 were old fashioned pseudo-3D, while TD3 was a big leap into early 3D. None of these games played well, but they had a presentation which allowed them to sell well. TD3's tech was pretty good for the time and this made up some for the whole shallowness issue.
Here's a MobyGames review headline on Test Drive: "It's a classic, but being a classic doesn't stop a game from not being very good". I think that's accurate.
There's a 7-year gap between TD3 and TD4 (Also Test Drive: Off Road). It doesn't feel like the same series anymore but an old name polished up. These new games were never great on the PC; They were Playstation games, and those games ported forgettably. The assets and mechanics were designed for the lesser system. These games have the DNA of the early PS game Destruction Derby from developer Pitbull as opposed to the original American company, Accolade, who were developers at Atari and Mattel Electronics in the original console era. By Test Drive 6, Infrogrammes had the Test Drive rights and Accolade when away in 2000 fully.
The Test Drive name floated up and down until the mid 2010's. I think Need for Speed took over the "classic casual racing game" spot thanks to be an EA game.
Another company has the rights to Test Drive and promises a new game this year.
Lords of Magic: Special Edition. It never occurred to me that the expansion was barely released on it's own. I saw both boxes in the stores enough. If one side of Impressions was Caesar based games, the other was Lord of based games. The Casear games exist in modern games like the Anno games, and in theory the Lords of games connect to Total War in gameplay. Total War is old enough that Shogun: Total War was released 4 years before Lords of the Realm III.
There were so many RTS clones, and some chose to stand out on look. I suspect the theme was reformed from a standard post-apoc into something tacky late into development to try to be the 1998 version of a meme. Originally I bet the game was more pure generic "mad max". The cheap cutscenes look very much like "Redneck Rampage", except all done wrong. Rather than boosting sales, it probably drove away the possible audience, which was already small for a generic looking clone.
Rogue Squadron - the far less common N64 port. N64 games had better 3D tech, but they had few textures. They looked wrong on the PC, but for different reasons. And by 1998, an N64 game would fly especially bad in the 3Dfx world. This game felt like a cheap cash-in at the time as a PC game. It's OK to be an arcade shooter, but it needed to justify the presence on the PC.
HOMM:II isn't new at this point, but the game was had been getting better for two years, something that didn't usually happen at the time.
I wasn't into Oddworld at the time either, but I think it feels an important niche.
You know, I never played Chaos Gate and I don't know why. It seems like a game I would have been looking for. I had a fresh computer and video game cash to blow in 1998. I know the box well enough. I had bought other Warhammer games. I wasn't as picky in ..who knows?
On the other hand, I know why I didn't get The X-Files Game. I wasn't into The X-Files. I didn't hate it, I just found it too cheesy and I tire of conspiracy and Aliens. More importantly, it's an FMV game in 1998 which had very little of the actual cast despite the canon nature. This was not going to sell to me. There are some positive vibes about the game now for whatever reason, but reaction at the time was poor.
It SHOULD be called CivNet 2! And it was a fantastic game. It's the fourth most played Civ game of mine. Currently it's Civ5 > Civ6 > Civ4 > Civ2MGE.
Yep, and Test Drive 4 & 5 were just meh, and didn't awe with much. Well, unless you had no other arcade racers. I did actually enjoyed Test Drive Unlimited on PSP. But truth be told, I liked a lot of games on PSP, it was an amazing little system. NFS games on it sucked though. Which is rather odd, given how well they would've played on it if given attention and time.
Not gonna lie, since we're on the subject, I think I liked TW: Rome the most. Though I've yet to try the latest 2-3 games.
It's funny how neither of us cared for Oddworld, when most of the Regularworld did ;) OMG! Those puns of mine are getting more cringe by the minute. xD Still, what I said is still on point, and Oddworld just never landed for me, regardless how many times I gave it a chance, and tried to get through it. And everyone seemed to love it. It's importance, naturally, despite my not caring for it, is unquestionable.
I liked The X-Files when they originally run, I really did, like most folks. But unlike most, I don't care for it today, like at all, and most of my friends seem to hold a lot of melancholy for it. xD
Oh, the new obscure DOS games video should be out tomorrow, and I think you'll find the selection interesting. I've pretty cool games for it.
While I agree II is good, Heroes of Might and Magic III is my favorite. It's such a well polished game with loads of great content.
Oh, sure, objectively 3 is better. But I like 2 much more. I'm not big on pre-rendered graphics.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames II defintely outperforms om charm.
Good stuff.
Thanks!
Interesting stuff >=D
Thanks! :)
Being a RTS nut back in the day I do still have my copy of Tribal Rage, bugger to play on modern systems and the a.i is trash but it definitely has character.
Yep, agreed. Though I'm not big on RTS games.
Tribal Rage was IMO extremely intriguing game, but had bad luck with being released during the "RTS flood" and not having everything well developed (e.g controlling the game with all its features like supplying your troops and fighting at the same time). There was also some interesting stuff in Polish magazine Gambler - by some reason reviewer (Jacek Piekara) has named the Trailer Trash faction as "Traktorzyści" (Tractor Drivers) - I really don't know if it was the term made in Polish manual (never had Polish manual in hands, and the game itself was in English), or if it was made-up by the reviewer, but I liked this name more than Trailer Trash. Somehow it was relating better to the "main thing" of that faction - so being extremely focused on keeping an eye on their fields (and killing those who were wasting them).
I regret a lot, that there was never a sequel for this game, with better control and giving something more in terms of story (it's basically non-existant in original Tribal Rage). But I guess 1998 was for smaller titles a hard time to be released, with so many popular and well developed games in that year.
Yeah, not having secure enough sales, made it highly unlikely to ever get a follow-up. It's not the only game that released at the wrong time, and because of it got lost in a crowd of larger or more popular games.
The x-files game was great and sold a lot. Shame we never got a sequel
We could've actually gotten a pretty amazing game today, with the tech that we have access to now. Unreal Engine 5.4, and such.
Wasn't Heroes of the Might and Magic 2 a DOS game? I'm about 99% sure about it.
Both HoMM and HoMM 2 could run under either, IIRC.
Yes and no. Base 2 was DOS, expansion was both DOS and Win, and Gold was exclusively Win. All in a span of two years. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames oh ok. I missed that gold part there. Haven't even heard of it. Only played the original one.
@@jothain Oh, it's fine, it's really nothing. The game is something though, something amazing that is! ;)
98 had a lot of great title's...far better than the operating system 🤣
OMG! LOL! xD I actually liked 98 SE. That said, base 98 was a bit broken. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames probably better than Windows ME at least....I apologize for the false praise. It was not my intent lol. It had to be better than that for sure. I've liked very few windows OS 🤣
@@Bowen_Landry Ha ha ha :) What were your thoughts on Amiga Workbench then? If you had any experiences with it at all that is.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I've had no experience with it to be honest. I did just looked it up. and the user interface looks intriguing though.
@@Bowen_Landry Amiga did real multitasking years before any other graphical OS did. And it done it at full speed. It was groundbreaking stuff at the time.
Urban Assault is impressive. The scale of the battles is huge & being able to jump in to any vehicle is fun but I get too caught up in the combat & forget about managing the battle. I see why people like it but I find it frustrating having to brake up my vehicle combat to manage a battle.
Yeh, Test Drive 4/5 is disappointing. Shame really.
Rogue Squadron was fantastic! (In spite of the escort missions) Whilst I have it on PC now & I mean right now my ex & me plaid through it first on N64. Let’s be honest though… “it had a story?” 😄
Speaking of gaming with my ex, we plaid through both Oddworld 1 & 2 on the PS1 & we both loved every minute of it but we did put a lot of time in to it & use both our brains to figure out what to do. Put 2 halfwits together you get a full wit.
The X-Files game sucked! I mean it just sucked. Having the mainline characters be conveniently out of the office for most of the game looked & was cheap & frankly the game itself was good looking fluff.
Fun list, thanks. I’m not a fan of RTS’s but I suppose I can allow other people to be? 😄
RTS’s aside there are a couple of true greats here that have influenced gaming to this day & that I absolutely will play now, like right now!
Well, fortunately Test Drive Unlimited was pretty awesome.
And OK, "it had a story" sounds better than it had a story. I suppose it's same way story, you get one in Need For Speed games. Sure, they say something in the background, and sure, perhaps it's coming from somewhere and maybe even going somewhere else, but all everyone cares is racing.
Two halfwits LOL :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I’ve played every Need For Speed & honestly couldn’t tell you the story of any of them? 😄
@@nicholsliwilson My point precisely. Also, same thing goes for all the Fast and Furious movies. Maybe apart from the first one. There were what feels like 79 thousand of these, and I've no idea what they're all about, unless they're about the family. Then yeah, I get them. Family and fast cars. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames LOL! 😄
Urban Assault was crazy!!
Fact.