Gaiters - Why I Use Them; Randy Newberg, Hunter
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2017
- In this third video of the series, Randy is again at Kenetrek Boots Headquarters, talking with Marketing Manager Wyatt Nielson about boots systems.
We started with socks and liners, then went to boot selection, and in this video we talk about one of the most overlooked parts of a boot system; gaiters. We discuss hunting gaiters and hiking gaiters, the use for each in keep moisture, snow, and debris out of your boots.
Many people question the need or value in gaiters. Once they use them for a season, the answers to those questions become self-evident.
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I bought the Kenetrek hunting ones today for cold weather bicycling and possibly hiking in Georgia.
Thanks Randy... one of the biggest reasons I wear gators early season is bugs - specifically ticks. I treat my gators with permethrin (as well as my pants and boots and jacket) but that gives me peace of mind knowing they won't be in my pants/socks.
Good note.
Bugs, stickers, twigs, etc.
Thank you Randy!
My first trip to Midwest comes soon , I watch your video and order one gaither. Once again , thank you for you great hunting video tip!.
Happy hunting to all and be safe.
Tom
Gaiters are also great for keeping my feet a bit warmer in the snow. Worth every penny and then some.
I just bought a pair gaiters for hunting and scouting and I can’t wait to use them
Never seen them before. Great idea. I’ll make a pair of those with leather for myself. Great video!
Never knew what gaiters were until this video. Gonna have to try a pair this year.
I tie a small loop of 550 chord to the front of each boot to attach my gaiters. Saves a LOT of shoestring wear. Just leave the loop on the boot, it's small enough to not be a bother when not using gaiters.
I'll have to try that.
You won't be disappointed. I've always used Outdoor Research gaiters and bought a pair of Kenetrek Hiking gaiters after watching this video. Thanks for doing what you do!
Where do you tie the 550 chord? Do you mean you tie it around the whole of the front of the boots?
@@msato8650 No. Most boots will have a tab near where the shoestrings start and I tie the loop of 550 chord there. I then hook the front tab of the gaiters to this loop instead of my shoestrings. This keeps from having the wear caused by the metal tab from breaking my shoestrings. If your boots don’t have this tab then you can run a loop through the bottom two shoestring eyes.
@@dalton916 brilliant idea, thanks! My shoe strings wear out rather quickly because of the metal hook on the gaiter, your idea will stop that from happening.
I’m always amazed at the number of hunters I see in the winter without gaiters. They obviously have never been backcountry skiing or winter mountaineering. Over the course of a week camping/hunting in the winter, I actually am wearing my gaiters more hours than my hunting boots. Whenever I’m working around camp, or making that midnight run to the woods, I’m wearing a lightweight pair of chukkas with my gaiters. It gives my feet a break from the boots and the boots more time to air out.
Pretty much the same here.
Whether sun, rain, snow, you'll never see me without my goretex gators. A must have.
Agreed.
Does the velcro stand up to lots of on and off use? Does the velcro get "sloppy" meaning does it loosen up or does it keep the gaiter locked up?
I thought gaiters were the stuff of the 1800s until I went hiking in Scotland.
When you are relentlessly tramping around in wet conditions, with shin or knee high foliage, then gaiters take a lot of your problems and transfers them to the ground.
My boots are bomb proof, oiled and exceptional, the rest of my kit is pretty decent too .... but there is a difference between theoretical conditions, and actually tramping around off the trail, where every plant and bush you contact, drains water right onto your legs.
It took me decades to realise why so many armies wore these, and it does not surprise me that hunters do too.
Almost every hunter in Mesopotamia regions wouldn’t leave home without wearing one to go mountain hunting, mostly goat hunting. It’s been a tradition of locals to make it from goat wool for thousands of years to today. I have used one too. Its not waterproof, but snow repellent, but most important, it gives you a sense of some security when walking in brushes and paths. Now a better idea is that to have those wool gaiters made with a thin waterproof layer outside that makes it perfect tool to have .
Randy do you wear your gaiters under or over your rain pants in heavy rain?
I would think over but I have been reading that under is better.
I think, imho, that it would be fair to talk a bit about the downsides of wearing gaiters:
In my field experience with gaiters (also goretex):
- The velcro gets stuffed with grass and thin vegetation fibers after a couple of hunts. And it's a pain to remove it.
- your legs sweat under gaitors, even with goretex. Especially when putting miles on and on. And then they chill down. And I've tried different pants. The next logic step would be bringing on the market gaitors-conform pants 🤦.
And a word re goretex: it's not the ultimate product, it wears out soon, pores get clogged, the membrane develops micro cracks and doesn't function to its initial levels.
GoreTex has PTFE in it. PHOS & PHOA will be in the Nature forever.
We just got a pair of these today to try for crew field work in the oil and gas, pipeline and forest resources business. First thing we noticed trying them on is that the strap that goes under the boot and the buckle it buckles into are both sewn on way too far forward, closer to the ball of the foot, not back toward the heel and directly under the instep. The only way we could ever use these would be to take them somewhere and have the strap and buckle cut off and then reattached in the correct places. An alternative might be to just cut off the strap and try to do without it.
Another thing is that we don't see any way that one could fasten these things closed at the bottom, or perhaps even anywhere else, if they are putting them over thicker pants, like insulated hunting pants. They are tight, almost even too tight, just over jeans. We bought this pair in size Large to try for a field crew member who wears a size 8-1/2 boot. (Wearing Wolverine Potomac style, not a bulky style, at time of try-on.) If we were going to keep them for that crew member's use, we'd probably have to exchange them for the Extra Large size.
The straps are removable, so don't have to be cut off. Buckles are not removable, but are not in the way.
thanks again
Great! Thanks! I do have a question, though: Randy, have you worn knee-high leather boots when going into wet or snowy areas? Not for fashion, but to function similar to short boots and gaiters? Thanks!
I have not worn them. For mountains, they do no have enough stiffness and support. Might be worthwhile in other terrain.
Thank you thank you!!!! You know, I don't know about these things, so I very much appreciate your advice!
I have a pair of Idand that I wear with shorts for yard work on hot, humid days.
My gaiters are like my Am. Express card...I don't leave home w/o them! Lol I have encountered one major problem w/ my Cabela's gaiters...snow sticking to the bottom nylon strap! So much that it is a hazard! Have you experienced any issues w/ snow sticking to the bottom strap? There was no mention as to what the bottom strap was made from.
Nope, never had that problem. The strap on these is a rubberized nylon.
In Finland, we have snow. Lot's of it. Gaiters are good.
From upland to elk hunting hunting in the PNW, my chins become a bruised and bloody mess. I really need to protect them, getting older and it hurts a bit more .. haha.
So, will this work?
Never knew this lol. I just bought mucks boots but may go with gaters
I sort of need ones for work in muddy condintions
Why not a good waterproof zipper assembly instead of velcro? My experience with velcro is, that it does not last long.
I have some with velcro and some with zippers. I far prefer the velcro. Way easier to adjust for the boot type and the thickness of pants. The pair you see in this video has over six seasons of 100+ days per season and still going great. Thanks for watching.
Zips get clogged up with dirt Velcro is better
Mark Hibs Velcro is even worse when it comes to mud. The main reason is because it fits over different layers much better. It also provides slightly more rigidity.
I was wondering if some one was going to mention Velcro at all. My gaiters are Velcro and like Mark Lavern says...zippers get clogged. But Velcro is awesome....I use it to tie down loose clothing, I use it to tie up my sleeping bag...to heck with string and rope...Velcro is awesome!
Do the pine colored gaiters have the quiet outer layer like the camo version?
No. I prefer the pine color over the camo version. Camo version picks up all kinds of thorns and stickers.
Mr. Newberg, did you ever count the number of items you carry with / on you for a typical hunt ?? It seems that this number would be almost 4 digits... )))
Muy bueno👏👏👏👏❤
I want to know the difference between blousing your boots like the military vs gaiters.
In snow, blousing will have a bad outcome. Without gaiters, snow will melt and make your pants wet, which will wick down into your boots.
@@Fresh_Tracks thanks I'll keep that in mind.
Will the gators block a rattle snake strike?
I wear gators hear in Aus as snake bit protection.
Hmm. Never thought of that.
Hey Callan, which ones do you wear? I want some that are suitable for snake bite protection in Aus also. Most of our snakes have pretty short fangs but I want to be sure I get something that serves it's purpose as a gaiter well.
I'd love to hear your feedback
yeah, i used those as well for snakes, in the Philippines
@@andrewford80 Hey Andrew go onto ebay and type in "Gaiters Double Wall Heavy Duty Canvas,Snake Resistant".
Made in QLD and good quality too.
Out here in SoCal, ya better have them on. Rattle Snakes are everywhere and im scared of them
Can't get an answer on this from anyone. Will the XL Hunting gaiter fit a 20"-21" calf?
maybe
Probably
Duuuude
Just bought M77 boots and gaiters. Ad sum leather grease, brush and Ur good.
I love my gaiters.
Snake protection? Look to lightweight. Anyone know?
Nope. Get yourself some snake boots or guards... really depends on where your at. Im in TN 10" boots work for me.
best boots i've used in Alaska. I use them and last year i had a black bear grab me in the dark i was on a 4 wheeler and the gator saved me from getting a leg wound the claw marks in the gator. p.s bear grease is best boot treatment
A wax based treatment is the best boot treatment . Animal based greases are absolutely horrible on leather boots. But i know youre an Alaskan and think you know everything
The only people ive met more stubborn and arrogant than Alaskans are Texans. Id still take either over anyone from the west coasts or east coasts
@@whiteyfisk9769 I Never knew wax base is better. Can you tell me why animal grease is bad? No 1 ever showed me the proper way to treat leather boots. I don't like store bought Obinoffs it has to much fufu smelling crap in it not good for hunting. Can you recommend a wax brand? I'd hunt with ya!! LOL
p.s. Alaskans hate Texans if we take a bad shot on something and hit it in the ass we call it a Texas hearts shot. I don't remember did I write some trolly shit to anger you opps . The funny thing is in to survive the Alaskan back woods you need to be stubborn and arrogant :) Most lower 48ers don't get it. We don't play pretend ,we say it how it is and lies are a waste of time. Most people think we ass holes up here and most are right . The last real Alaskans still help there neighbors. Not too many left. PLZ teach me something!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@bearbait2221 haha youre good man, i was just giving ya shit. Its a harsh land up there, I lived there many years and stole one of your women and brought her back south . Alaska is still the last free state in the country for now since the west just got invaded so bad.
Long story short animal based fats go rancid and contain salt, which over time will eat through the stitching and cause your boot to come apart. I also used bear grease for years and it never was as waterproof as beeswax stuff
Best brand ive found is Kenetrek Boot Wax. It smells good and works even gooder. Doesnt cause issues with most glue. Goes on like grease, let it set an hour, then wipe off excess and you have a waxy protective layer. Ive tried Aquaseal too, but Kenetrek stuff is better
@@whiteyfisk9769 LOL Come up and steal all are woman!!! said with Eskimo accent. fn guusuck- white man:) Thanks for the tip on the boot wax. And up here we dont loose are girl friends we loose are turn. You trader:0 LOL I don't know how to spell in Eskimo but good luck with your squaw Guusuck :)
don't you get water underneath the gator and get into the shoe. I am guessing the boots are water proof
Its called capillary effect
Are the gainers water proof
I don't know of any gaiters that are waterproof. Very water resistant, but not water proof.
Randy Newberg, Hunter In your new AK dall sheep series I see your team doing creek crossings without waterproof waders. Where you trudging through water with these and not getting wet? I’d like to know what you used on that hunt because this will be the first year (and possibly our last?) my 70 year old hunting buddy and I will be doing a backcountry elk hunt and there will be several water crossing about shin high. I’ve had a pair for years now, but the plastic buckle broke and Kenetrek said they’ll replace them for free and asked what flavor I’d like - soft camo or green/black nylon? Shall I go with the green nylon like you despite them being loading in Wyoming brush? I hate having to pick stickers out all the time and I imagine nylon would dry quicker. Thanks Randy!
My hunting gaiters doesn't have a snap? Idk?
I use my Great Grandfathers Gaiters from World War II
Probably the guy who been wearing Boot Gators for many years, is Jim Shockey and really started the fad.
Gaiters stop snow and ice from freezing your laces solid which is horrible when trying to get your boots off
You know what sucks about picking hunting boots Randy? When you wear a size 15 lol...
Darn, not sure I have answer to that.
Mordion I’m so lucky... I’m almost a 15 but a 14 still fits.
I’m sorry dude, 6’8 here and clothing shopping major sucks.
get some custom made nicks boots out of spokane washington. there only about 100 bucks more than kenetreks and worth it if you need custom size 15's.
if your hunting and you need 2 different types of gaiters you should probably sell your gun/bow and buy a prius.
Yeah. U only need one pair. But U DO need it.
Never wear gaiters, never have wet feet from snow or wet grass, guess I must be lucky.
In Australia we use gators because a number of the snakes here can kill you within as low as 30 mins of being bitten, the venom moves through your lymphatic system faster if you move, so if you get bitten out in the bush and there is nobody to carry you or you don't have bandages to stop the venom and call for help ...you're as we like to say ...farked 😬
We have snakes, but not the kind you folks deal with.
Forget about the water!
I worry about snake bites!
500.00 for the boot I'm scared to look at the price for the gaiters.
Like $60
So make sure your gators are waterproof to.
Never seen water travel against gravity before.
That's crazy.
You don't live in Washington!
Any liquid will, the scientific name for it is osmosis... not adhesion as Randy said.
Capillary action
Ever heard of drip edge for metal roofs?
Dip the corner of a paper towel in water and the water will wick up the paper towel.
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wow I have found the very useful as well I love riding horses I wear them now when I ride I make some from one of my horses too when I take hear with using her legs get beaten up very badly she did not like that at first she very aware on how she looked she love purple in colour I pick that colour for her the day we have gone out she was not bucky at all she was well-behaved horse she was all was jumping around we never rode her because of that I ride her with them on her she rides great I used her just for a pack, horse stilling to use then on my other horses as well
right after we done with them I remove them from there legs they do not mind wearing them when we go out I know like wearing them too
at work, we were cutting down steel been burning my boot laces I put them on and never had a lace burned or my jeans too now
for work I wanted a pair from leather the first to work great the guys laugh at them having lunch and the guy were bad and there laces I laughed at them then I had to leave to do some personal needs lift someone to try them the exit day I when to get them and he did not want to give them back it cool sold them to him and were my new pair
that night i was asked to make more of them you can tell the crew I am with by the boot covers they work great in the snow too
osmosis
Adhesion. Adhesion is water molecules attracted to other substances. Osmosis is transfer of matter through a membrane.
Moist
adhesion? I think he means osmosis.
Horseshit! I have been hunting, fishing, camping and hiking in the wilderness for 45 years. On dry land, in snow, rain and extreme heat in the summer. I have never had a pair of quality mink oiled waterproof boots leak down my pant leg or down my sock what a ridiculous notion and sales ploy.
"It's never happened to me therefore this problem doesn't exist" 🙄
@@GuitarGuy650 or your gullible and inexperienced in the wilderness!
Differently NOT a big fan on the velcro!!
Why say one word when you can say 20. God Bless them, NOT!