I have worked on my share of L series and RB engine powered cars and I have to say, I don't think there is a better sounding inline six engine. It makes a visceral sound that Toyota and BMW inline sixes don't come close to . Z cars, in general, are just fantastic to drive. For me, it's the fact that unlike modern cars, they are not perfect, that is the point. When you drive one, you can't help but to immediately start smiling ear to ear.
There are lots of awesome 280z 2+2 cars so I’m sure people will appreciate a nicely done example. Thank you man I appreciate it, this UA-cam channel has pushed me to make it as good as possible so far, hopefully more awesome stuff for it in the future
I'm Brazilian and I'm 22 years old, one day I hope I can have enough money to buy my 240z! Although I've never been in and driven one, this car is amazing, congratulations on the video and your car Jordan! Never stop creating content about your 240z!
It’s not a 240z, dude…it’s a 280z. The 240z is carbureted. The 280z is fuel injected. While the 240z is the more coveted classic, it’s also more expensive. The 280z is cheaper priced and the superior car. Save your money and buy a 280z.
Loved the videography in this. The camera position in the car, slightly behind you to the right, looking through the windscreen - driving around those bends with the sun scanning across the interior as your position changed. All you needed was Matt Munro singing On Days Like These and it could have been the intro scene to the original Italian Job movie! 👍👌😎
I really appreciate the kind words, thank you! For next time I want to get a new mount that keeps the camera from vibrating but overall I was stoked by how the shots came out :)
All S30 IMO are really awesome on my second one now my first was a 240z and wish i would not have sold it. It was then i realized how much money i lost on it because around 2015 they went way up in price so i settled for a 75' 280z :)
A great video, Jordan! It was beautifully filmed, well constructed and edited, and showcased your 280Z perfectly. I like the restraint that you showed; canyoning videos can be a bit hoony. Cheers.
Very well done Jordan on a few points. You have a talent for video. Your edits are always smooth. And HERE is the biggest thing Z UA-camrs " don't do" That you have done, with one exception, The red 1jz swapped drift car from Stewart Motors, he and his girl friend built. Many builds never take you on a ride or the Z Life afterwards. Which is silly, you build a car to enjoy a Sports Car life. Many sell the car right after. And buy a completely different car. Some get uninterested in making videos. But as an ENTHUSIAST this IS what you want to see after, the driving , the cars and coffee. Even hooking up with more Z owners and driving about ,Z Life. There is Z Life after the built! So a very well done video Jordan and your on to something BIG. PS Jordan it's a Sports Car, have you weighed the roll up seat belts compared to a old school 3 point smirks. Both my Z resto mods have standard old school three point belts. Problem solved.
Thank you for all the kind words man, I totally agree! I’m not sure on the belts, they are new belts in the same classic style. I remember our upholsterer tried hard to find the same type for us but I think they’re just new and not ‘worn in’ yet. But if you have a tutorial to properly weigh them, let me know 🙌🏻
Be the children of the new planet earth. Become the ones you have been waiting for. It is that simple. You are changing the world today. Just today. Not tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, so don’t pat yourself on the back because you did a great thing last week. Last week doesn’t exist. Now is important. Now is all that matters.
NIce video, nice car. Have a 73 240 myself. I think the 280s are way underrated. Probably everyone's biggest hang-up are the bumpers, which are ugly to say the least. Might've been worthwhile to mention the effort involved to swap those out.
Super easy to swap out, 4 bolts for the front bumper and I think 8 for the rear ! it requires some cutting to remove the back ones but you only need to trim the bumper brackets, not the car body
I love my 280z, buttt after I drive my new sports car with all the tech bells and whistles, I enjoy less the 280’s rattles, exhaust fumes, squeaks, and twitchiness going fast. it is not as fun to drive. However, I’m still drawn to it as the purest side of me loves it’s primitive nature. It’s still a great and enjoyable car to drive.
Owning this car has made me appreciate my new ‘daily’ sports car so much more, and I think if people can afford to have both, that’s an awesome contrast to hop between. Sometimes it’s refreshing to hop into the old car and then go back to the awesomeness of new technology
That is because a Z.is armor, you slip into as an extinction of you and machine mixed together. You car seems like you have areas to tune better to your driving tastes. First step is to build. Second step is to tune all the parts you bought, to make it do what you want it to, target what you don't like and adjust it, could mean different parts or adjusting . Sports Cars are always raw, a Z, a old 911, Alfa, it was built in a different time and mind set. The Modern Sports Car fits into modern times in today's World modern Sports Cars fit with the life we now live. After I finish my two Z builds I will find two more Z cars to rebuild. Then I'll buy a used 370z ,for a modern sports car.. But as the last 6 yrs I have daily driven a motor cycle in Florida as I restomod a 280 and 240. To Daily a Z like I did all through the 90's. Will be great!!! Smirks be nice to get out of the weather..ah ha! The sacrifices we car guys make to build our cars......
I put a steering wheel adapter on mine with a dished steering wheel and that gave me about 3 inches more leg room, definitely needed for heel and toe for a big guy in this car
@@JordanPayneLV this video really helped me earlier because since I was a kid I’ve wanted a Datsun originally wanted a 240 but those r so high in price now I see the 280s are still very nice and not near as much as the 240s and this video just made up my mind that the 280s could be just as nice if not nicer
If you ever decide to upgrade or sidegrade your motor, you should 100% check out Robello Racing, they’ll make you a personal configuration based on their racing engines, anything from a 2.4 to a 3.0, and tuned for purely road or purely and anything in between. My personal dream car is a 240z with a Robello 2.8 50/50 street/race motor, using triple Webbers AH! That sound!!! Just imagining it I’m like 🤤🤤🤤. 😂
I don't think that the Devil Z rattles like rocks in a can. What is required to stop body twist is to tear down the entire car and weld all the seems. Old unibody car bodies were stamp welded and flexed from the factory.
You’re right, although I do feel like the flex is part of the authenticity of a classic car. Something we don’t necessarily experience in new sports cars as much
@@JordanPayneLV Agree. I've raced older cars and it feels that the car is a part of your body. Weight shifting on turns and feeling how the car wants to behave is important in winning races. Nothing like the feel of mechanical linkage when shifting gears and the tension of the throttle linkage on your foot.
Hi, thanks for sharing. 280z owner here that is primarily bone stock but good condition. i have a question on the handling. how does the handling change/differ with your new coilovers versus when it was stock? My biggest complaint with my Z is the handling. It feels like you are driving an SUV instead of a sports car when you try to drive hard - steering lags, turns when you brake hard, floaty feeling when accelerating hard or driving it harder and less smooth. Is the chassis handling still similar or not significantly improved with stiffer coilovers and struts? Did you also upgrade your sway bars?
It is significantly improved with coilovers, I have stock sway bars but I’d suggest getting new ones. Also take off the big crash bumpers as those weigh a ton and hang far out of the passes the axels. Doing those 2 things will greatly improve the ride and handling
I owned an original 280 for years. If yours feels like you're driving an SUV than I would say you need to go thru your suspension with a fine tooth comb and see what's amiss. The handling of my Z was what I liked best. Stock, it has a little too much body roll which is easily remedied with a simple strut tower brace across the engine. Other than that my car was always very tossable and predictable...
Title is bit misleading, is it really what its like to drive classic 280z considering all the changes that have been made to improve the performance and handling🤔but it would definitely be worth while if to be driven hard.
Totally, and that’s why I wanted to mention all The mods, so it’s obvious what it takes to make it an awesome sports car out of an oldddd car. I get asked pretty often by people “should I start this project” and I think a lot of people think the car will be done overnight, but it’s not. What do you think?
@@JordanPayneLV i think your car is great and with the same car would do the same to enhance the driving experience, improving brakes handling and performance, i have a 78 260z btw but standard 34k its a step back into when taken out for a drive, i realise how far cars have improved but cant match the driving pleasure of my old Z for smiles per mile.
Modern seats would be nice, swapping in Porsche seats would be great. You don’t want to go with 3 or 4 point harnesses for a street car, and you only want a harness in a race car when you also have a HANS device. Harnesses have no give or slack to them, and when you tighten them down, the only thing that moves in an accident is your head and you can actually cause neck injuries much easier than if you had a traditional seatbelt.
@@JordanPayneLV: With traditional belts (no airbag) when you bounce forward and back there is no risk for your neck? img.freepik.com/free-vector/crash-test-dummy-car-seat-grid-background_1308-75255.jpg
The seatbelt on my Z taught me how to take it slow; the virtue of patience under pressure lol. Keep up the quality, enjoy man!
Yeah definitely! It’s a learning curve to get it on the first try! And thank you man I appreciate it :)
I have worked on my share of L series and RB engine powered cars and I have to say, I don't think there is a better sounding inline six engine. It makes a visceral sound that Toyota and BMW inline sixes don't come close to . Z cars, in general, are just fantastic to drive. For me, it's the fact that unlike modern cars, they are not perfect, that is the point. When you drive one, you can't help but to immediately start smiling ear to ear.
Well said! 🙌🏻, I couldn’t agree more
I was a happy owner of 2 of them. Best all around driving car ever built in my opinion. It just does everything right. Thanks for the ride!
Thanks for watchin!
I loved the sound of the 350 with 3" exhaust in my '83 GMC.....until I heard the sound this car makes.
Like listening to a song... a masterpiece of a song.
I love my 280z. I’ll die still owning that car.
I love it! These will be artifacts one day
Interesting and bada$$ camera angles. Love it!
Thank you! I appreciate it 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Awesome car. I have the least sought after 280zx 2+2. Still people and myself love it. You have made yours look perfect. Well done.
There are lots of awesome 280z 2+2 cars so I’m sure people will appreciate a nicely done example. Thank you man I appreciate it, this UA-cam channel has pushed me to make it as good as possible so far, hopefully more awesome stuff for it in the future
I'm Brazilian and I'm 22 years old, one day I hope I can have enough money to buy my 240z! Although I've never been in and driven one, this car is amazing, congratulations on the video and your car Jordan! Never stop creating content about your 240z!
Joao I appreciate the kind words! Keep saving up man and you’ll have one one day 🙌🏻🙌🏻
It’s not a 240z, dude…it’s a 280z. The 240z is carbureted. The 280z is fuel injected. While the 240z is the more coveted classic, it’s also more expensive. The 280z is cheaper priced and the superior car. Save your money and buy a 280z.
Loved the videography in this. The camera position in the car, slightly behind you to the right, looking through the windscreen - driving around those bends with the sun scanning across the interior as your position changed. All you needed was Matt Munro singing On Days Like These and it could have been the intro scene to the original Italian Job movie! 👍👌😎
I really appreciate the kind words, thank you! For next time I want to get a new mount that keeps the camera from vibrating but overall I was stoked by how the shots came out :)
All S30 IMO are really awesome on my second one now my first was a 240z and wish i would not have sold it. It was then i realized how much money i lost on it because around 2015 they went way up in price so i settled for a 75' 280z :)
Ah man well that is a bummer but at least you’ve got another S30, and as you can see a 280z can be pretty cool as well :)
Doing it in the Rockies with the 620. Makes every trip an adventure.
I love that, gotta enjoy your car!
A great video, Jordan! It was beautifully filmed, well constructed and edited, and showcased your 280Z perfectly. I like the restraint that you showed; canyoning videos can be a bit hoony. Cheers.
I really appreciate it man! Yeah gotta stay safe in these old cars, you never know what might happen when driving a tin can :)
Very well done Jordan on a few points. You have a talent for video. Your edits are always smooth.
And HERE is the biggest thing Z UA-camrs " don't do"
That you have done, with one exception, The red 1jz swapped drift car from Stewart Motors, he and his girl friend built.
Many builds never take you on a ride or the Z Life afterwards. Which is silly, you build a car to enjoy a Sports Car life. Many sell the car right after. And buy a completely different car.
Some get uninterested in making videos.
But as an ENTHUSIAST this IS what you want to see after, the driving , the cars and coffee. Even hooking up with more Z owners and driving about ,Z Life.
There is Z Life after the built!
So a very well done video Jordan and your on to something BIG.
PS Jordan it's a Sports Car, have you weighed the roll up seat belts compared to a old school 3 point smirks.
Both my Z resto mods have standard old school three point belts. Problem solved.
Thank you for all the kind words man, I totally agree! I’m not sure on the belts, they are new belts in the same classic style. I remember our upholsterer tried hard to find the same type for us but I think they’re just new and not ‘worn in’ yet. But if you have a tutorial to properly weigh them, let me know 🙌🏻
Be the children of the new planet earth. Become the ones you have been waiting for. It is that simple. You are changing the world today. Just today. Not tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, so don’t pat yourself on the back because you did a great thing last week. Last week doesn’t exist. Now is important. Now is all that matters.
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Awesome video Jordy! I like driving videos and the scenery was great! Thanks!
Thanks for watching 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻❤️
Totally loved it! Thanks for sharing such a great build
Thanks Marco! 🙌🏻🙌🏻👌🏻
NIce video, nice car. Have a 73 240 myself. I think the 280s are way underrated. Probably everyone's biggest hang-up are the bumpers, which are ugly to say the least. Might've been worthwhile to mention the effort involved to swap those out.
Super easy to swap out, 4 bolts for the front bumper and I think 8 for the rear ! it requires some cutting to remove the back ones but you only need to trim the bumper brackets, not the car body
Looking forward to getting my 260 back on the road!
sinful 280z! i didnt know you had a channel, i follow you on the gram. super sick.
Yeah bro welcome! I try to post here as much as I can but UA-cam content takes more effort than IG 🙌🏻
I love my 280z, buttt after I drive my new sports car with all the tech bells and whistles, I enjoy less the 280’s rattles, exhaust fumes, squeaks, and twitchiness going fast. it is not as fun to drive. However, I’m still drawn to it as the purest side of me loves it’s primitive nature. It’s still a great and enjoyable car to drive.
Owning this car has made me appreciate my new ‘daily’ sports car so much more, and I think if people can afford to have both, that’s an awesome contrast to hop between. Sometimes it’s refreshing to hop into the old car and then go back to the awesomeness of new technology
That is because a Z.is armor, you slip into as an extinction of you and machine mixed together. You car seems like you have areas to tune better to your driving tastes. First step is to build. Second step is to tune all the parts you bought, to make it do what you want it to, target what you don't like and adjust it, could mean different parts or adjusting .
Sports Cars are always raw, a Z, a old 911, Alfa, it was built in a different time and mind set.
The Modern Sports Car fits into modern times in today's World modern Sports Cars fit with the life we now live.
After I finish my two Z builds I will find two more Z cars to rebuild. Then I'll buy a used 370z ,for a modern sports car..
But as the last 6 yrs I have daily driven a motor cycle in Florida as I restomod a 280 and 240.
To Daily a Z like I did all through the 90's. Will be great!!! Smirks be nice to get out of the weather..ah ha!
The sacrifices we car guys make to build our cars......
that heel toe shift just solved the problem with mine, i dont have enough room to lift my leg so i haven't been able to get it down because of it
I put a steering wheel adapter on mine with a dished steering wheel and that gave me about 3 inches more leg room, definitely needed for heel and toe for a big guy in this car
Had bbn one a true sport car.
170hp? Dream on.
Techno toy tuning truly does supply just S tier parts
They’ve served me well, I’d love to have their updated coilovers and springs though, mine are 1st gen
@@JordanPayneLV this video really helped me earlier because since I was a kid I’ve wanted a Datsun originally wanted a 240 but those r so high in price now I see the 280s are still very nice and not near as much as the 240s and this video just made up my mind that the 280s could be just as nice if not nicer
@@ConagherHam it absolutely can, the 240z is more of a flex but not because it’s any better than the 280z, thanks for watching man!
@@JordanPayneLV update im going to look at and possibly get a 280z tomorrow
Great vid and awesome 280!
Thank you!
If you ever decide to upgrade or sidegrade your motor, you should 100% check out Robello Racing, they’ll make you a personal configuration based on their racing engines, anything from a 2.4 to a 3.0, and tuned for purely road or purely and anything in between. My personal dream car is a 240z with a Robello 2.8 50/50 street/race motor, using triple Webbers AH! That sound!!! Just imagining it I’m like 🤤🤤🤤. 😂
Robello makes some great stuff! I actually just started modifying the top end of an engine, so go-fast parts are on the way!
@@JordanPayneLV Hell yeah man! Can’t wait to see the end result!!! Loving the content! ❤️
@@griffins750 thanks for watching man 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sounds great! Who makes this “cheap” exhaust?
Thanks! It’s from Motorsport auto, twice pipes!
@@JordanPayneLV do you think the MSA premium exhaust will sound the same?
@@nocookiepuffs4u695 I don’t think it will, totally different muffler style
I don't think that the Devil Z rattles like rocks in a can. What is required to stop body twist is to tear down the entire car and weld all the seems. Old unibody car bodies were stamp welded and flexed from the factory.
You’re right, although I do feel like the flex is part of the authenticity of a classic car. Something we don’t necessarily experience in new sports cars as much
@@JordanPayneLV Agree. I've raced older cars and it feels that the car is a part of your body. Weight shifting on turns and feeling how the car wants to behave is important in winning races. Nothing like the feel of mechanical linkage when shifting gears and the tension of the throttle linkage on your foot.
@@Batalia122 yeah for sure, I think it makes the experience special, but of course we could also seam weld it to go faster 😎
Or put a cage in it and add reinforcements to the front towers
@@PhantasmPhoton Problem with cage is that it adds weight between 100-200 lbs.
Hi, thanks for sharing. 280z owner here that is primarily bone stock but good condition. i have a question on the handling. how does the handling change/differ with your new coilovers versus when it was stock? My biggest complaint with my Z is the handling. It feels like you are driving an SUV instead of a sports car when you try to drive hard - steering lags, turns when you brake hard, floaty feeling when accelerating hard or driving it harder and less smooth. Is the chassis handling still similar or not significantly improved with stiffer coilovers and struts? Did you also upgrade your sway bars?
It is significantly improved with coilovers, I have stock sway bars but I’d suggest getting new ones. Also take off the big crash bumpers as those weigh a ton and hang far out of the passes the axels. Doing those 2 things will greatly improve the ride and handling
Handles like a completely different car with coilovers.
I owned an original 280 for years. If yours feels like you're driving an SUV than I would say you need to go thru your suspension with a fine tooth comb and see what's amiss. The handling of my Z was what I liked best. Stock, it has a little too much body roll which is easily remedied with a simple strut tower brace across the engine. Other than that my car was always very tossable and predictable...
Great video mate, did you sound deaden the car ? What did you use ?
Thanks man! I did, lots of dynamat and also some wool insulation under the carpet all over, we really wanted the car solid feeling
@@JordanPayneLV yeh I’ll do that, I hadn’t thought of the wool insulation too 👏
And what a pain in the ass clutch ours had. Compared to our 75 MGB it was beastly. And not in good way.
My clutch is easy, is yours difficult?
Title is bit misleading, is it really what its like to drive classic 280z considering all the changes that have been made to improve the performance and handling🤔but it would definitely be worth while if to be driven hard.
Totally, and that’s why I wanted to mention all
The mods, so it’s obvious what it takes to make it an awesome sports car out of an oldddd car. I get asked pretty often by people “should I start this project” and I think a lot of people think the car will be done overnight, but it’s not. What do you think?
@@JordanPayneLV i think your car is great and with the same car would do the same to enhance the driving experience, improving brakes handling and performance, i have a 78 260z btw but standard 34k its a step back into when taken out for a drive, i realise how far cars have improved but cant match the driving pleasure of my old Z for smiles per mile.
@@bobkeeling3691 smiles and looks per mile are real good in the Z :)
It's also got the injector screw falling out
Shhh don’t tell anyone 🤫
Hello, may i ask since you want it for sport use: why not modern bucket seats and seat belt 3 or 4 point harness?
Modern seats would be nice, swapping in Porsche seats would be great. You don’t want to go with 3 or 4 point harnesses for a street car, and you only want a harness in a race car when you also have a HANS device. Harnesses have no give or slack to them, and when you tighten them down, the only thing that moves in an accident is your head and you can actually cause neck injuries much easier than if you had a traditional seatbelt.
@@JordanPayneLV: With traditional belts (no airbag) when you bounce forward and back there is no risk for your neck?
img.freepik.com/free-vector/crash-test-dummy-car-seat-grid-background_1308-75255.jpg
What is your exhaust set up?
It’s a twice pipes setup with an added cat and a 3-2 header from MSA auto
hey, where is your exhaust from?
Here’s my review of the exhaust that I had when this video was recorded 👌🏻
ua-cam.com/video/XeRGHL5NI1M/v-deo.html