Whats the best Controller for SURRON! // BAC vs Torp vs EBMX

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • The ultimate controller video! The 3 most controllers in the game back to back to back! Let’s get into the details and at the end we will compare them all and see what one might be the best for you!
    #surron #ebike #controller

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  • @evan.bedwell
    @evan.bedwell 2 місяці тому +4

    at first when i was looking for a controller and i was just going to buy a bac 4000 but it was out of stock so it gave me some time to do some research and after seeing bacs are starting to blow up and people are sending them back, and how confusing it is to tune i went and ordered the torp-500 and it was the best upgrade i have done to my bike , the torq is insane and its even faster than bac, the torp tunning process is just so easy and i love it.

  • @Fort_Worth_Talaria
    @Fort_Worth_Talaria 2 місяці тому +1

    Love the vid bro following !

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому

      Appreciate it bro!

  • @mt-ka
    @mt-ka 2 місяці тому +2

    متابعك من العراق 🇮🇶❤
    New follower from Iraq

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому

      Welcome bro 🤙🏻

  • @4theFiero
    @4theFiero 2 місяці тому +2

    Bac 4k with the kilowatt app is nice imo. Takes care of the egg rider over ride issue and has a user friendly interface. Hopefully I don't get a blinking light of death but so far so good.

    • @ChrisCrossingWires1212
      @ChrisCrossingWires1212 Місяць тому

      just means theres a fault Bro its not death and your right BAC and kilowatt is The Best Bro Idk how I got here but Im out

  • @Alex-oy6wb
    @Alex-oy6wb 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ShaneRampersaud
    @ShaneRampersaud 2 місяці тому +2

    Just ordered a 72v 51ah battery and the torp 500! Did my research as well and decided to go with torp!

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому +1

      Good choice my dude! That setup will kick ass!

    • @ShaneRampersaud
      @ShaneRampersaud 2 місяці тому

      @@nirzy556 thank you brotha! I’m going from completely from stock lol, can’t wait to see the difference!

  • @OldSchoolGamer503
    @OldSchoolGamer503 Місяць тому +3

    Just picked up the torp tc500 because my BAC 4000 took a shit and I had the red blinking light of death

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  Місяць тому

      Another one bites the dust… rip your gonna love that Torp tho!

    • @Diegothemtber
      @Diegothemtber 14 днів тому

      So what better torp 500 or the bac 4000

  • @Surge_sefi
    @Surge_sefi 2 місяці тому +4

    Torp on top I’m saying that from a year of experience

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому +1

      Torp is definitely making some waves, i think this is gonna be a exciting year for them, praying for a Torp tm50 for the ultra

  • @skateinspace
    @skateinspace Місяць тому +3

    why is the torp controller so small and lightweight compared to the other ones?

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  Місяць тому

      I’m not sure but it’s an awesome design! Small but powerful 🤙🏻

  • @JESSEverything
    @JESSEverything Місяць тому +2

    So I think I'm sold on the Torp. It seems like better tech. Also their motor is and encoder instead of a hall sensor. Seems more than capable. What I'm trying to figure out now is what battery company to go with. I don't need insane power, I would like to have better range though. If I could keep the battery in a more compact form factor I would like that as well. Any suggestions?

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  Місяць тому

      Check out chi battery. They are based out of Chicago and make some nice batteries. If you’re not looking for 72v power but want better range check out their 66v options!

  • @ameenwahal
    @ameenwahal 23 дні тому +1

    Nice review bro . I’m running the trumoto electro&co on my surron l1e street legal
    Bought it before moving to Germany, and i wish i bought the torp instead. Don’t get me wrong it’s good very smooth controller just doesn’t work well with my street version surron , my eco/sport mode not supported so my bike only have one mode no kick stand safety switch and battery percentage not showing
    Now I’m really thinking about buying the torp .

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  21 день тому +1

      Thanks for the info! I’m still yet to see the surron 1Le in person 😂 kinda disappointing to hear that all the basic stock functions on your bike aren’t working with that controller. Torp does not disappoint 🤙🏻⚡️

    • @ameenwahal
      @ameenwahal 20 днів тому

      @@nirzy556 L1e same as X model , expect its get lights turn signals mirrors……. But everything else exactly the same. I’m very mad at electro&co to be honest, and i just ordered torp controller yesterday .

  • @wonderwook3919
    @wonderwook3919 21 день тому +1

    How would you compare the throttle feel between the ebmx and the torp? My friends torp is a little on the sluggish side regardless of the settings.

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  21 день тому +1

      Stock settings i find both controllers to provide a very linear throttle curve however when you start tuning the throttle curve and throttle response they can both get extremely aggressive or soft depending on what side of the spectrum you go to. I’m surprised to hear someone say it’s sluggish… i would double check your throttle settings if you need any help reach out to me on insta i would be more than happy to try and help ❤️

    • @wonderwook3919
      @wonderwook3919 21 день тому

      @@nirzy556 ok sweet i appreciate it

  • @fynnchiboy1060
    @fynnchiboy1060 2 місяці тому +1

    The embx Controller can handle more power but my favourit is the torp and 25kw is enough for such a light bike

    • @mrludicrous1670
      @mrludicrous1670 2 місяці тому

      Torp can't handle that much power,neither the 500 phase Amp, maximum is more like 375 pA

  • @crabbyeatthepattys9807
    @crabbyeatthepattys9807 Місяць тому +1

    EBMX GANG MORE POWER

  • @MASC440
    @MASC440 2 місяці тому +1

    👍

  • @mr.taddel4282
    @mr.taddel4282 2 місяці тому +2

    Is it somehow possible to access the 50kw with the light bee in combination with the tc1000 like with the ultra bee? Would have a custom battery made/motor swap

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому +1

      In a 40kw setup with aftermarket motor controller and 72v battery the weakest link becomes the battery… so if your gonna do a custom battery it really comes down to what the specs are on it but the tc1000 is capable of 50kw so im sure with the right battery its possible

    • @mr.taddel4282
      @mr.taddel4282 2 місяці тому +1

      @@nirzy556 So it's not limited to 25kw by "software"?
      I thought the slider only went up to 25 on the Lightbee.
      which engine would you recommend for the 40kw +-?
      Battery would be built with Samsung 40T or Molicel P42A.
      I actually come from e scooter tuning. sounds really funny but my Xiaomis 1s do 0-50 in under 3 seconds and have a top speed of over 80kmh.
      only with a small additional battery to get 72V and completely resolder the controller.
      I also have alternative controllers lying around that could also be put into the surron.
      Does vesc mp2 tell you something? this is a universal self-made vesc with 20s and 430A. the 2nd version can do 30s and 430A. The parts for a controller are like around 50€+- 💀😂
      A 30s sur ron would also be very nice and you don't need quite as many amps!^^

    • @mr.taddel4282
      @mr.taddel4282 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@nirzy556For me it would also be very interesting to resolder the original Sur Ron controller. But I heard it's very difficult to get the controller out of the glued case without destroying it.

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому +1

      I’ve personally never run a tc1000 on a lightbee before so im not sure if there is a way around the 25kw slider or maybe you can trick it some how without having to do any sort of software “adjusting” 😂 As far as im aware its probably easier to do a tune like that with a ebmx x9000 or BAC 8000 but without a tc1000 im not sure it could be just as easy. With the ebmx x9000 there is a ton of options for what motor your running and what parameters are actually safe for that setup. motor wise you’re probably looking at the Sotion motor, ebmx xlb or tm25

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому +1

      I have never been able to opening up a stock surron controller, they use some SERIOUS glue on those things. The one time I tried to open one up i snapped a screw driver and decided that was enough for me 😂

  • @iseepandas1
    @iseepandas1 2 місяці тому +2

    Bac8000 would be the best one if it could run the ebmx motor..

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому

      Yeah the BAC platform seemingly is getting outdated

    • @iseepandas1
      @iseepandas1 2 місяці тому

      @@nirzy556 asi controls that. They used to be able to run encoder, but not anymore.

  • @user-ud7ip9cx7v
    @user-ud7ip9cx7v 2 місяці тому +1

    I have buy the tc1000 im waiting for

  • @monkman369
    @monkman369 2 місяці тому +2

    What about the Nucular P24F?

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому

      Currently i have no personal experience with it but it looks sick! Currently not very popular in the US but could have potential. Seems to have good tuning capabilities and has a nice display screen. Also cool that you can replace the heat sink with different colors.

  • @bengtjobe
    @bengtjobe 2 місяці тому +1

    3rd

  • @bengtjobe
    @bengtjobe 2 місяці тому +8

    Torp gang 💪

  • @Alex-oy6wb
    @Alex-oy6wb 2 місяці тому +1

    2nd

  • @melbournechugging2999
    @melbournechugging2999 Місяць тому +1

    Stock controller for the win just cut that green wire and you good you just saved thousand dollors

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  Місяць тому

      Very true, nice to have options tho

    • @tellthetruth7497
      @tellthetruth7497 22 дні тому

      New Surrons don’t have a green wire

  • @Alex-oy6wb
    @Alex-oy6wb 2 місяці тому +2

    Missing Torp 1000

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому

      The Torp 1000 was not in the budget 😂

  • @wallsvr7335
    @wallsvr7335 2 місяці тому +1

    And were back

    • @nirzy556
      @nirzy556  2 місяці тому

      Hahahaha yessir