The Best Controller Upgrade for Talaria/Surron E-Moto's! Ebmx X-9000 In Depth Guide

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  • @como1loco
    @como1loco Рік тому +7

    Great video, I got my X9000, it has over 6000km on hard riding, 0 issues so far, super happy with it

    • @sleeeper88
      @sleeeper88 Рік тому +1

      What power level do you ride in most of the time

    • @como1loco
      @como1loco Рік тому

      Race Mode 1, 10kw with 40phase amps 90% of my all rides. Sometimes I got Max mode at 15kw 800amps when I race vs somebody@@sleeeper88

  • @nhojyelbom
    @nhojyelbom Рік тому +2

    best controller out right now, nothing is perfect but the x9k rides perfect! x9k on 72v light bee and now its on my ultra. Tip: hold down to swap from street to race without key cycle. im waiting on a Trampa VESC STR 500

  • @shager350z
    @shager350z Рік тому +1

    Thanks guys! this video really helped me out setting up my x9000 controller, and your code saved me some money!!! keep up the good work. :)

  • @make725daily1
    @make725daily1 Рік тому

    Your video is an everlasting wellspring of motivation! ♦ "Every setback holds a precious lesson in disguise."

  • @robertmccaleb1400
    @robertmccaleb1400 11 місяців тому

    I am so excited to see the ebmx9000 and can’t wait to see it on the 79 bike with better tires

  • @sleeeper88
    @sleeeper88 Рік тому

    Btw tucking the wires wad no problem at all and the sxs skid plate fits perfectly.

  • @jordanberardi15
    @jordanberardi15 Рік тому +1

    just bought a EBMX X-9000 and used your guys discount code ! thank you guys so much for the awesome videos. it seems pretty east to install on the bike but I hope i can figure out the firmware updates and stuff. it seems a bit confusing. 😀😀

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому +1

      Congrats man! Appreciate you watching and supporting us, shoot us an email if you have any issues and make sure to join that Facebook group for in depth help.

    • @dreknows
      @dreknows Рік тому

      What you doing with old motor it's like when you now want build another bike. This user happens me all time building pcs I'd have a nice gpu left over and build an entire new pc

  • @robertmccaleb1400
    @robertmccaleb1400 11 місяців тому

    I am so excited when I look at the eride pro s 17 inch wheels a shoot out between the telaria stock red xxx

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  11 місяців тому

      Ya we hope to get our hands on one at some point!

  • @sleeeper88
    @sleeeper88 Рік тому

    Just installed mine, same exact set up shown here. WOW the power is insane at 15kw and 700 amps lol.

  • @shay_mx34
    @shay_mx34 10 місяців тому

    Hey great video, but I never knew I could send the max amps to 250 on my battery. I’m pretty sure I have the same battery as you but it is not charged, it’s a EBMX 72 V 42ah

  • @johnmorrison27
    @johnmorrison27 Рік тому

    Brilliant as always Team 👍👍

  • @mydogsdrift
    @mydogsdrift 6 місяців тому

    Where did you get the files to download for the display when you had the NRF connect at opened? 25:45

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  6 місяців тому

      You can get them from EBMX website

  • @MCVAMP666
    @MCVAMP666 7 днів тому

    how fast does it go now like how much more speed with this new controller??? its for my surron 2024 model it goes stock 41mph for me so I wanna know if its worth buying for me.

  • @SheldonMitchell-q8e
    @SheldonMitchell-q8e Рік тому +1

    Super informative! I think it’s time to upgrade.
    I my need Help!

  • @ashtondube8865
    @ashtondube8865 3 місяці тому

    Do u think u can put an x9000 on a rawrr mantis x?

  • @davyboyunt1182
    @davyboyunt1182 11 днів тому

    where do i get the firm ware?

  • @envy_se2078
    @envy_se2078 Рік тому

    Yo im having an issue where the bike is stuck on 'wait' since i installed the controller

  • @MasonCaster-mk6bt
    @MasonCaster-mk6bt 10 днів тому

    how and were do i get the files for the display?

  • @steeljoker3171
    @steeljoker3171 Рік тому +1

    where do I get the files tophmi from

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Sorry for the delay I recommend joining the X-9000 facebook group to get more info.

  • @buckfiden2988
    @buckfiden2988 Рік тому

    It is the best but also the most expensive. I have a KO Nano for now. I may get the 9000 next season though.

    • @samtech79
      @samtech79 Рік тому +1

      I'm in the same boat. The Nano is cool but maxed out at 12kw for 60v kinda sucks. EBMX is on my Christmas for me list.

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому +1

      You won’t regret the x9000. We’re excited to see what ebmx does with it in the future

  • @SurFrankenRon
    @SurFrankenRon 11 місяців тому

    I hooked up an x9000 v2 and an xlb60 motor today. I know FOR SURE i hooked the colored ohase wires up correctly, but when i turned it on with it set to anti clockwise, it spun backwards. Swapped it in the app and its fine... but its kind of weirding me out

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  11 місяців тому +1

      Ya that’s interesting, it doesn’t really matter though, as long as it’s spinning the right way you’re good to go…

    • @SurFrankenRon
      @SurFrankenRon 11 місяців тому

      @@Talariaboys thanks for being one of the few youtubers out there talking about the x9000. Seems like everyone else is running torp for some reason. I'd prefer to have what looks to be the best for only a couple hundred dollars more

  • @RoiAloosh
    @RoiAloosh 6 місяців тому

    Hi guys!
    What is the max phase/battery amps your were able to pull on stock motor?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  6 місяців тому

      We are only able to get about 500, upper 400's

    • @RoiAloosh
      @RoiAloosh 6 місяців тому

      @@Talariaboys phase?
      Or battery
      Having trouble passing 250 batt amps on stock motor

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  6 місяців тому

      @@RoiAloosh yes phase, battery amps we set it at 250 as well but usually only see a peak of about 235 or 17kw

  • @jayppop3333
    @jayppop3333 Рік тому

    You guys ever swich batteries back and forth? I was looking for something 60v and 72volt friendly. The KO power boast it can easily switch between the 60 ans 72 battery easy. I hope this controller can too

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому +1

      Yes we swap sometimes and all it takes is a couple quick setting changes in the app 👍

    • @jayppop3333
      @jayppop3333 Рік тому

      @@Talariaboys nice !! It's good to have two batteries on riding days thanks for the info

  • @jayppop3333
    @jayppop3333 Рік тому

    Got 60$ off with the code thank you

  • @steeljoker3171
    @steeljoker3171 Рік тому

    can you set up street mode for stock battery and race mode for after market battery

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому +1

      You just need to change a couple quick setting in the app each time you swap back and forth and yes you can have it setup!

  • @dreknows
    @dreknows 10 місяців тому

    Whatv if you got the larger Chinese color display in middle?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  9 місяців тому

      It will still work, youll still remove the stock display and use the included ebmx one

  • @robertmccaleb1400
    @robertmccaleb1400 11 місяців тому

    Ebmx 9000 with a scocion electric motor could I do that

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  11 місяців тому

      Yes we will be testing this soon actually! There is a new Talaria version of the Sotion motor.

  • @derrall7870
    @derrall7870 Рік тому

    @ Talaria Boys would I notice any change in power, torque or top speed by putting this x9000 on my sting R with a stock battery ?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Yes you would. Not a massive change but its a great stepping stone to a new battery eventually

  • @MrJamessjones
    @MrJamessjones Рік тому

    Hello i just install me EBMX CONTROLLER on my mx4 i have power i did the calibration and the wheel turned forward and backwards the display is correct i turned it off and on but i'm having problems with the NRF app can you help me ??

  • @jeffmathews3746
    @jeffmathews3746 11 місяців тому

    Hey just curious if you know of an aftermarket controller for the Talaria STING MX4 TL4000 L1E. The one with the turn signals and everything. I want to upgrade my controller but i also want to keep all the oem electronics.

    • @ThePribinaczek
      @ThePribinaczek 10 місяців тому

      dude its the same thing... L1E stand for the added lights etc

    • @jeffmathews3746
      @jeffmathews3746 10 місяців тому

      @@ThePribinaczek You offered absolutely nothing to this conversion. I obviously was elaborating in case they didn't know. Go be annoying elsewhere.

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  10 місяців тому

      Yes most controllers will work great, we are recommending the Torp TC500 for it, we have a video coming out tomorrow

  • @peppbenj
    @peppbenj Рік тому

    Which controller would you recommend for stock sting R ? X9000….TORP 500 or NUCLEAR P24F ?? Thanks in advance 😊

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому +2

      Hard choice, We haven't ridden the torp as its not out yet... X-9000 is amazing for really fast bikes and more tune ability bit for a stock battery we are loving the Nucular, it still works well with an upgraded battery but at the end of the day we prefer the x-9000 for that.

    • @peppbenj
      @peppbenj Рік тому

      @@Talariaboys good enough for me that then 👍 cheers for the reply boys….happy holidays to you all 🎄

  • @DIPPING_SAUCE
    @DIPPING_SAUCE Рік тому

    Hey guys, I love your videos they’ve been super helpful in picking a bike / upgrades. I’m wondering if you still need to cut the brown limiting wire on the mx4 with the x-9000 controller or if the controller is able to bypass the limiter settings.
    Please let me know,
    Thanks again!!

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Hey man thanks for watching! That brown wire is connected to the actual stock controller so if you remove the controller there’s no need to cut it. Enjoy your new setup!

  • @johndeesfpv9289
    @johndeesfpv9289 Рік тому

    thanks for the help guys , I didn't do the update and everything seems fine ? will the update help ?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Yes I would recommend always updating when you first get it! Both controller and display

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli 9 місяців тому

    Can this be used with the stock sting R battery?

  • @refinedpowdercoating7074
    @refinedpowdercoating7074 Рік тому

    Where did you get the files for updating and wiping the firmware from the display? Great video btw very informative and simplified

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      We recommend joining the X-9000 facebook group to stay up to date on all the update files and things. Thanks for watching

  • @rsF34R
    @rsF34R Рік тому

    how do you import a custom tune ?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Join the x-9000 facebook group and ask there, they can help!

  • @Surge_Stream
    @Surge_Stream Рік тому

    Thank you!! Very helpful for reference

  • @Fickle_Hobbyist
    @Fickle_Hobbyist Рік тому

    So if I have a completely stock bike and I install this controller, will it give me more power and speed? If so how much? Very awesome and informative video guys! Thank you!

    • @thecarry5057
      @thecarry5057 Рік тому

      I would wait until you get a battery..installed this controller on my stock sting r and less torque on the high end and less top speed and a lot of people are having this issue

    • @Fickle_Hobbyist
      @Fickle_Hobbyist Рік тому

      @@thecarry5057 that’s exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you so much for the feedback.

  • @jnla8920
    @jnla8920 Рік тому

    Hey Boys! Nice content... how did you rig a double binder headlight? also when you switch to a mixed wheel set (16/19) up how does the speedometer adjust to it?
    Many thanks!

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      We have a good understanding of custom wiring so that's how we made the light work, it wasn't plug and play by any means. And the display has a GR setting adjustment inside where you can adjust it so that it can still be at least roughly accurate.

  • @dreknows
    @dreknows Рік тому

    Wait since when does talaria have reverse ? Or is that a different bike ?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Stock talarias do not have reverse. When you switch to the x9000 controller the bike can go in reverse. It’s just a small perk but it comes in handy every once in a while

  • @howardmr90
    @howardmr90 Рік тому

    Hey T-Boys I’ve got a quick question: Somehow I turned my MX4 display to Trip Meter vs Odometer. Was wondering how to change it back. Thanks 🙏 🤙

    • @JoaoCabrao80
      @JoaoCabrao80 Рік тому

      I don’t think that is an option, to check the odometer you have to go into the menu settings.

    • @howardmr90
      @howardmr90 Рік тому

      @@JoaoCabrao80 Maybe I’m mistaken and I just cleared it and then realized it was a trip meter 🤷 who knows. Thanks though

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      The trip meter on the main screen is one you can reset whenever you want to track mileage for a ride. it auto resets at 620 miles or 1000km so thats probably when it reset for you.

    • @howardmr90
      @howardmr90 Рік тому

      @@Talariaboys yeah that was definitely about the reading when I noticed it. Thanks for the heads up 🤙

  • @enduro_j
    @enduro_j Рік тому

    Any idea when they will make some motor/controller/battery-upgrades for the Talariaxxx?

    • @LuckyO97
      @LuckyO97 Рік тому

      This x9000 can be installed on the xxx already, no battery’s out yet!

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      It won’t be long, a few people have installed controllers and motors already

  • @jcarieri5435
    @jcarieri5435 Рік тому

    A newbe question, but will this work with stock mx4 motor. Is it worth it?
    Thanks

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Yes we are using it with the stock motor, it’s absolutely worth it!

  • @TheRealMime-_-
    @TheRealMime-_- 10 місяців тому

    Hi,
    What do you think about the BAC 8000? Is it better, worse or same as the x9000?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  10 місяців тому +1

      We don’t have personal experience with the bac8000 but from what we have heard is the x9000 is better. Plus it’s easier to tune and control.

    • @TheRealMime-_-
      @TheRealMime-_- 10 місяців тому

      @@Talariaboys thx for the help

  • @dukedub
    @dukedub 9 місяців тому

    Is controller upgrade a waste if i plan on keeping the stock battery?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  9 місяців тому

      No it still gives a nice jump up in power and it will make the feel of the bike customizable

  • @joshp2608
    @joshp2608 Рік тому

    noob question, im interested in getting a xxx, will this be compitable still?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      It will be soon, Someone we know is creating a custom wire harness to be able to plug in the x-9000 to the xxx. Join some of the X-9000 facebook groups to learn more info.

  • @ka0tic.
    @ka0tic. Рік тому

    does anyone know if the x9000 work with a chi 72v 38ah compact and stock motor?

  • @SPROCK3TMONST3R
    @SPROCK3TMONST3R Рік тому

    Thank you for this video!!👍🙏

  • @make725daily1
    @make725daily1 Рік тому

    What an extraordinary video presentation! ♦ "Success unfurls as an ongoing and evolving adventure."

  • @nahmsayin2589
    @nahmsayin2589 3 місяці тому

    can i put this controller on the mx5?

  • @whoville6594
    @whoville6594 7 місяців тому

    What’s the code for the 5%

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  7 місяців тому

      Hey use code “talariaboys” at our website. tbelectricmoto.com/products/ebmx-x-9000-v2-controller-kit-for-surron-ultra-bee?_pos=2&_sid=576ed39c7&_ss=r

  • @FuryD4
    @FuryD4 Рік тому

    Does it work with xxx?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      Technically it does but youll have to do some custom wiring. We know someone coming out with a custom wire harness to mount the X-9000 to the xxx.

  • @HoweDUU
    @HoweDUU Рік тому

    How is the x-9000 the best when you cant even use the stock display with it?

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      How does that even make a difference? All good aftermarket controllers come with better displays than stock and have way more functionality! Why would you want to keep your display stock when a good controller includes a better one…

    • @HoweDUU
      @HoweDUU Рік тому +1

      The ultra Bee stock display is actually really clean, best Ive seen yet. That's why I like the Torp TC1000, you can keep it@@Talariaboys Show me one nicer than the Ultra bee

    • @notapie-ro8186
      @notapie-ro8186 11 місяців тому

      With this controller brake lights, and head lights will still be functional?

  • @dreknows
    @dreknows Рік тому

    This sounds like the future Sent should be built into the bike's

  • @WatchYaGitten
    @WatchYaGitten Рік тому

    Will the 9000 work on the xXx? Thanks for the videos guys!

    • @LuckyO97
      @LuckyO97 Рік тому

      Yes! It does

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      It does but needs to be custom wired in. We know a guy who has created a custom wire harness that he will be selling soon so that it is plug and play. Join the X-9000 facebook group to learn more info.

  • @johndeesfpv9289
    @johndeesfpv9289 Рік тому

    I also used your discount code thanks

  • @TheHamzam77
    @TheHamzam77 4 місяці тому

    My friend has a stock light bee x and his is faster and has more power than mine with a x9000 controller. I have messed with the app so much tried changing phase amps, max KW, etc. still only reaches 36mph. Motor rpm at 4500 max unless downhill. Someone chime in please

  • @bentleyquance8514
    @bentleyquance8514 Рік тому

    Within 30 mins gang

  • @TylorGagarin
    @TylorGagarin 9 місяців тому

    everything else works for my talaria but my throttle

  • @Hunter_Heart
    @Hunter_Heart Рік тому +2

    Ebmx has the best motor (XLB-60 Motor) MAX STABLE ROTOR at 13000RPM. At 35k peak power is the best in the world. Though only for Sur ron. Chi 's GLADIATOR 72 MAX - 51AH SUR-RON BATTERY is the most powerful in the world.

  • @Boingftw
    @Boingftw Рік тому

    needing facebook for the controller is a huge downside for me

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому

      You don't NEED it, its just helpful sometimes.

  • @plutocratic5933
    @plutocratic5933 Рік тому

    Fourth

  • @TeamhuskyTeamhusky
    @TeamhuskyTeamhusky 3 місяці тому

    do i need a mf display 🤦‍♂️

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  3 місяці тому

      The x-9000 comes with a Display

  • @junkfishinj
    @junkfishinj Рік тому +2

    Very misleading telling people that this controller will increase speed and torque on a stock battery. Just finished installing on my MX4 with stock battery and lost a ton of torque and top speed. Top speed went from 55 down to 36. Only buy this if you have a 72v battery!

    • @Talariaboys
      @Talariaboys  Рік тому +7

      Before you comment trying to mislead others you should make sure your controller is setup properly. There are specific settings you need to run to get the right performance on a stock battery, input these and you’ll be good to go.
      135 Battery Amps
      7.5kw
      450 Phase Amps
      70% Field Weakening
      Regen Throttle up to 30%
      From there you can increase throttle expo if the throttle isn't aggressive enough for you.

    • @jawjawjon7554
      @jawjawjon7554 10 місяців тому

      Nah bro you so stupid😂😂😂

    • @drag1591
      @drag1591 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Talariaboysso I got my controller installed today running the settings you recommended and the bike only does 42mph was doing 52 on stock controller. Any recommendations?

  • @TylorGagarin
    @TylorGagarin 9 місяців тому

    everything else works for my talaria but my throttle