This victim is AFRAID OF THIS GUY!!! He violated his PO in front of the world at the courthouse with no one protecting her. Of course she left. He was not at all made to stay off of her. This system is so flawed
im surprised her lawyer even let her go out there without at least telling one of the deputies to escort her knowing that piece of garbage saw her leaving the building - i almost feel like she bears some responsibility in this - there had to have been another way to get out of there besides that one door but i could be wrong
@@adjustableWenchif she went outside to meet and interact with him, then she isn't afraid of him. Though she should be. . When people fear something they automatically go into fight or flight mode . She did neither .She went outside to interact with him.
@@adjustableWenchshe doesn't have a lawyer in this matter only the defendant has a lawyer. The other lawyer participating in this case is there representing the people and society at large.
I agree, the victim must be terrified of this guy's continued delusion and his persistent and determination to be with her, regardless of the consequences. No wonder she's angry with the court, she probably feels so let down as they can't seem to keep him away from her.
These victims know that the courts will not protect them and get coercively controlled and stalked by the perp to get the outcome he wants. They need to jail these guys so that the women have a chance to get out of the situation.
Until they either make this idiot understand that the woman wants absolutely nothing to do with him and accepts that, they either need to be locked up without any chance of getting out.
Wow this defendant’s insistence on speaking to judge Middleton outside the presence of his attorney, after the judge told him explicitly not to talk and especially not about his case, is extremely telling! He was directly told no and why not, by a judge. He said he understood and he wouldn’t. Then he says it’s not about the case. And he immediately launched into talking about the case. He has absolutely no impulse control, even directly in the face of an authority who could put him in jail for a very long time. It’s scary to think how he behaves in other settings if direct and immediate deception and defiance are the best he can do in court
He has definite control power and doesn’t understand or care he’s looking to get locked up till end days. He best turn his life around and fixate on himself. Coming right out his intentions on this woman was telling
@@thomasdalton1508 There are different types and styles of deception. This is a powerful thing to learn. There are those who decieve with lies, and those who decieve with truth. The latter is far more dangerous than the former. Those who will decieve with truth will tell you to your face what they are doing, make you think they intend to change, and not only continue their deceptive patterns of behavior but double down and ramp up those activities to dangerous levels with no concern for others or self.
Are we just going to gloss over what he said to the judge? He said some weird crap about how he hopes that 50 years from now, he and Carly will be together and look back on this as just a bad memory, or something to that tune. Oh my god. He is so delusional. He thinks they are destined to be together and nothing can stop fate. He is so crazy. And that’s the stuff he’s willing to say in front of a judge while being recorded on video and audio. Imagine the stuff he has said to that girl when nobody else is around. “Carly, I’m going to fashion your bones into a set of dentures for my pet iguana”.
How many times does he have to not pay bonds, violate perole, scare her so that she fears for her life and not thrown in jail for the maximum sentence?
As he is being escorted out at the end, he says "She got my attention", referring to the interaction he had with earlier that day. Implication being that he did in fact speak to her. He can claim being unwittingly tempted to speak to her, but he followed her outside as per the video evidence. He's convicted himself.
Yes. Legally, even if she calls him, flags him down, texts him to come over...he CANNOT respond and contact her. It's clear he doesn't care what the court says.
Actually there are laws against baiting someone you have a PPO/TPO/RO/SO out against. So yah, she CAN go to jail too. These are recent laws due to the upsurge in the amount of women using this to "guarantee" custody. @@Youre-Welcome
"Oh, c'mon your honor! I did absolutely NOTHING the court ordered me to do to maintain my probation, and I violated every possible order I could!" "You can't lock me up for that!" MIDDLETON: "Yeah, I just got your attention also"...Mic Drop Moment of the Week 🎤💧
What a mess this was! Judge Middleton definitely made the right decision! Also, you could tell he was not happy with the contact that occurred in or around his courthouse with everyone, including the prosecutor and I don’t blame him!!
@@LightInsights You missed the forest for the trees. He won't leave her alone. You see how relentless he is with the male judge? Now times that by 1000x with her alone. He has a fantasy with her that he will never let her go and he has been destroying her self esteem for years. He is what she is going through. I'm not saying she shouldn't have lost the kids because it wasn't a safe environment but to divorce that of all context is ridiculous.
He clearly has impulse control issues and sees himself as the victim. He can't even shut up in court so I'm 110% sure that he violated wayyyyyy more than what's been documented.
I feel bad for Judge Middleton. He tries so hard to help people and defendants like this guy show just how bad it can get. You can tell at the end of the trial that Judge Middleton is at the end of his rope. How the man doesn't become an alcoholic is a testimony to his character as a man.
He was really trying hard to find a reason NOT to cancel the bond and for all his efforts, he was clearly frustrated at the defendant's refusal to follow a simple command like "don't talk without your lawyer." If someone can't maintain composure and have some self control in the court room, they DEFINITELY have none outside the court room.
I think the judge was seeing the big picture. He knows that the victim isn't a victim but his hands are tied. The state brought charges so he has to deal with it
This judge is too lenient too often imo almost like he’s scared he’s going to get called out by these woke azzholes instead of doing his job and not worrying about YT or the blue haired entitled hippies that don’t think the law applies to them or just dgaf imo. Annoys me if you can’t tell lol
Judge Middleton tries to help the criminals get any treatment that can benefit them, while at the same time protecting the victims to the best ability the law will allow.
He’s on bond in two different courts. This is what is wrong with our justice system. This man should be in jail. Period. None of this repeated bond crap. This is the type of defender that will turn around commit murder, and then commit suicide. He is that sociopathic.
Okay. I just finished watching the video. My previous comment was kind of in bad taste. I’m leaving it up because I still think it’s kinda funny. Just bad taste. But wow. This dude is a piece of work. You are totally right. He’s gonna kill that girl. What a f’ing freak. This dude needs to learn what healthy relationships look like. This is crazy.
@@chrissturley823 Your previous comment isn't funny at all. It's reprehensible and sickening. You sound creepy and cringe trying to "joke" about a person who is being victimized. You stated you know it's offensive but are leaving it up because it's "funny"? Funny to whom? Incels? Abusers? Murderers? Family annihilators? No one is laughing. Leaving that sick, dumb comment up is ignorant and not funny in the least. Do you have any women or girls you care about in your life? Mom? Sister? Try imagining some freak abusing them, would that be funny? What if you got severely injured by someone and I made a "joke" about it, would you find it funny??? Not taking that dumb comment down will tell everyone all we need to know about you .
YOU are ABSOLUTELY 100% right!! That's what gets me so upset with our courts!!! And they CONSTANTLY give the defendant sooo many court dates sometimes it will go on for a year! It's sickening and ridiculous how it seems everything is in favor for the stalker!!
I had a similar problem with my ex husband. He kept breaking the PFA time and time again and nothing would happen to him. The one time he broke the door down and got into the house . I called the police. We lived about 20 feet over the township border for our police district so we had to rely on the state police for help. It took them 3 hours. A black eye, broken nose and 2 cracked ribs was that result and he never went to jail and not even a fine. Absolutely bs. This system failed me which is why I haven't dated since 2012 and probably won't and it's failing this woman. He breaks the protection order 4 times and even right there at the court house. That's why she left and I don't blame her. Thankfully this judge locked the defender up. It's about time. Way to go judge. I was acting like a cheerleader after he locked him up. I'm happy being single and not dating, I'm a positive person and will help anyone and content. Hopefully this woman can finally relax and heal.
Hum, are we watching the same video she commented on? Don’t dare call someone a liar that is ignorant, tone deaf and you’re victim blaming. Even if you had your doubts, to call her a liar is disgusting. I hope you’re not a grown adult thinking and commenting like this. I am all for our justice system but why don’t you go watch the countless DV reports that resulted in tragedy or even worse the countless times CPS had multiple reports, children with er records where they had bruises, broken bones and many teachers/family calling to report and they either don’t take things seriously or close the case-it’s only until something serious happens. So ask yourself, if that can go on and with children, then yes, other things may or may not be taken seriously. Don’t call people liars, especially if it’s based on just a bias, opinion, because that is truly just disgusting.
I need to clarify when I stated I’m all for our justice system, I Am for it when things are done that we obviously not corrupt, same with law enforcement, I don’t unfairly profile all based upon some. There’s good & bad in life, period, and yes some of those bad people wear uniforms, lab coats, billionaires, princes, teachers, lawyers, etc. I respect the law & order when it respects their sworn oaths, just needed to clarify that.
I’m blown away that he and her lost the child because they couldn’t stay away from each other. That means they’re so selfish that they lost their child. And then he he wanted the judge to feel bad for him because he hast to say goodbye to his son. Sorry dude you’re the reason why you don’t have a son anymore
He's way too chill and way too lenient. If I lived in his county I'd be very unhappy. The things he allows people to get away with and his lenient sentencing is one of the big reasons why criminals don't fear the consequences of their crimes. Then he wonders why he sees the same people over and over again. I'm sure he's a nice guy, a great neighbor and community member, but as a judge I think he's terrible.
This abuser is so delusional that he thinks they're going to be together for 50 years, and look back and laugh at him flagrantly violating a No Contact Order! WTAF
I wonder if they will reminisce about their child who got taken away because dad beat mom, and mom cared more about dad than her kid. That's a sweet thing to look back on and laugh. /s
@justinejackowicz3043if she's so weak she can't get away from him to keep her child, she does not deserve her child. Stop making excuses for her, he was in jail 186 days and she still wants him. She has to accept the responsibility and the consequences for that.
I’m not entirely sure that is delusional. Never underestimate the power and abuser has over their victim. By the time the abusers get violent, the abusers have already convinced the victim that they are worthless, that no one else would ever love them because they are not worthy, and they should be grateful that they have their abusive partner
I don't necessarily believe he's abusing her. I believe it's a toxic relationship. All it takes is one fight when a "victim" calls the police and sometimes they lie.....in this case that's exactly what happened but yet the UA-cam just deems him a sociopath
When parents have behaviors so bad they get referred to CPS, they are typically given 3 months to follow the improvement plan CPS gives them. The child may or may not be given over to the temporary custody of the state, ie to a foster parent. After they fail to complete the Improvement Plan in the time allotted the judge will almost always give them another 3 months to make progress. If there are egregious circumstances then CPS can go back to court and the judge can make the decision to discontinue the plan immediately and remove the children permanently, making them eligible for legal adoption, by the foster family, other family members or another adoptive family. If I were to fill in the blanks as it were it sounds like the husband continues to be abusive and his wife keeps inviting him back into the home. CPS then tells the judge both parents are failing to follow the Improvement Plan and the judge permanently terminates the parental rights. It would be as if the parents here never had children. Foster kids have their records sealed and the state guards their privacy with great priority. So now we've got a mother who is mad at the system for "taking her kids" and won't cooperate with the state. We have a father to whom it's more important to continue to see and beat his wife rather than do what's best for the kids so he can continue to be a father. Finally we have a prosecutor and judge who want to protect the child but the parents won't stop disobeying court orders. This is a pretty bad case. The prosecutor is still working to protect the wife despite the lack of cooperation. The judge likewise knows where this is going and is making the tough decisions to leave the husband in jail. What a mess.
When the judge canceled his bond, the sound of his disbelief was astounding. What did he think was going to happen? Did he think this was all a game? Yes, he dug this hole and just couldn't believe the judge would put him in jail. When you pull crap like continually violating a PPO, think about what the worst consequence would be. He clearly didn't think of that.
I think the mom may be partly to blame for losing parental rights to her child is more than just the actions of the child's father. They don't take children from the mom just because the dad is a piece of garbage. There must be more to the child and the mom versus what is going on in this video. It is definitely a shame as a child deserves to have 2 loving parents and to lose both yet both parents still being alive is a burden the child will carry for the rest of their life. Even if they have the most amazing parents adopt the child depending on the age they'll always have that thought in the back of their mind at times questioning why their mother didn't fight for them or what not. It's just sad.
My guess is she has a messy life and doesn’t always make good decisions. However messy her life may be, she should be free from harassment by this mentally ill person. Now, if she has had any willing contact with him after the PPO was in place, then she is part of her own problem.
@@ScubaFanatic60 generally speaking, do review the file before testifying. I wonder if this officer was just so certain he recalled everything he didn’t think he needed to? As to why officers or other expert witnesses have to review their reports when testifying, how well do you remember everything you’ve done on every shift you’ve worked for the past year? Or the past five or six years? If you had to deal with an incident that took up multiple pages of shorthand notes and you had to talk about it weeks or months later, do you think even after reviewing your report you would remember every detail? And if remembering it correctly could mean the difference between justice being done or a guilty party walking free, if you weren’t 100% certain you were remembering a detail correctly, would you want to double check your notes or would you just take the chance?
@@Katchi_ You are 100% wrong. IMHO. Incarceration stops EACH defendant from re-offending while they are in jail. Show me your ample proof. The problem is not incarceration, it is judges who are too lenient and keep letting criminals off easy. I worked as a Correctional Officer and I have seen very little proof of rehabilitation being effective. Look up the cases where, not only do defendants re-offend while on probation/parole, they also do it on pre-trial release. Up to and including murder.
@@davident1 Of course you are an alleged correctional stooge. You literally proved every study in existence. There is no rehabilitation. You have NEVER witnessed rehabilitation, or education. You are on the exact same level as the incarcerated. Your country incarcerates more people than the next three countries COMBINED. Other industrialized nations do not have this problem. So of course by your logic that is not possible.
@@davident1 I should start by saying that I'm on your side - no, you should not share credit for time served across multiple offenses. But I'd like to disagree with your assertion that 'rehabilitation isn't effective.' First of all, of COURSE rehabilitation is effective. Recidivism occurs when rehabilitation was not successful. Why might rehabilitation fail? For the reasons you mention - parole is an imperfect system, judges can be hesitant to levy bigger sentences for repeat offenses... But further, recidivism happens when the accused is mentally ill, and does not receive any mental health treatment (or neglects treatment under a system which fails to hold them accountable.) Obviously in this case we're discussing, the stalker is LITERALLY mentally ill. No impulse control whatsoever, no self-preservation, no regrets or understanding. Punishment is not going to fix this person, and your anecdotal evidence (the time you spent as a CO) wouldn't convince most of us otherwise.
I loved the subtext when he said that and Judge Middleton said "no, it doesn't", but I could hear the end of that sentence, "but it might help her"... and just on the off chance that it might help her and get her to tell her story, he locked the creep up. This guy needs to stay in jail. They need to levy that life charge this time.
Judge Middleton is probably my favorite judge out of all the judges I watch. When somebody s*** stinks he will not hesitate to tell them. That cop was not ready for court and he said yeah you probably should have read that before you testified and came here to the courthouse
Middleton is the first judge I've ever heard who could quote Lewis Carroll, cite lyrics from the Rolling Stones, and can name all the members of both Deep Purple and Pink Floyd.
To be blessed with a child and to throw that blessing away--and then to act surprised that he's going to jail. Unbelievable. Your commentary was spot-on, by the way. Well done.
And when he stated about seeing his son before adoption with absolutely NO remorse shows where his mind is! He didn't seem upset at all he was losing his son forever.
Imagine the lengths he'll go to in order to see his son. After he gets out of jail, of course. He's an obsessive nut job who needs to be in a mental institution.
How many women have lost their lives to men like him who refuse to move on? Until he comes to the realization that if he can't have her no one can. Crazy. PPO do not always protect anyone.
No, she doesn’t. He is responsible for his behavior. Period. She is responsible for her behavior. Period. He had been told to stay away. His responsibility is to avoid her like the plague, I don’t care what she does or says. He wouldn’t be in this situation if he would just do what he is supposed to do.
Why does she keep engaging with him? Of course this nutjob will probably end up doing something crazy but he's been locked up long enough for her to get her shit together. Instead she lost her child because she wouldn't stop messing with this loser
He's shocked he's going to jail because they keep giving him chance after chance and he knows that. Until he is given a real bigger than jail punishment he won't change, it's probably too late now. 🤔🙄😕
This guy is a menace and is going where he belongs, but if the system had dealt with him him more seriously at the beginning and had incarcerated him on his first violation, he might be more likely to learn his lesson. I can't understand why the child's mother would want anything to do with someone who had her child for life, especially someone who has beat on her
Mi wasted all their computer budget years ago when they paid millions for a software program to flag people for unemployment fraud. Too bad the system flagged several hundred innocent people, while the state automatically denied their appeals, fined them 10x the amount the faulty program said they stole. This resulted many bankruptcies, some divorces, and at least one suicide. So be thankful the computer system isn't working.
No. We can not. I live in the capital of Michigan. Lansing. Just finished dealing with the courts. If you commit a petty crime, they’ll do their best to watch you like a hawk and make your life hell and they will do an awesome job of keeping you in check. But if you are a serious criminal, they won’t do anything. Real violent criminals roam free in Michigan. Our courts are a joke.
I've said this elsewhere: Judge Middleton is the definition of "sober as a judge"...never wound up, no outbursts, no drama, just making judgements based on the evidence and law. We need more people like him.
seriously! once ur rights are terminated somehow i doubt the adoption organization would let u anywhere near the child to potentially try to run with him or mess him up even more by having that contact
The woman in essence gave up her child for an abusive man. Most mother's will fight to the death to protect their children and these two subjected him to chaos and fear. The man acting like making a scrapbook is so important but being a loving caring human isn't. Even babies feel that anger in the atmosphere to their detriment.
I do not think that is what happened. I think the child was taken away b/c the household was violent. Clearly, he knows how to manipulate the system--he has at least 4 active DV cases, including a civil PPO, and no one is protecting her. He used the system to continue to haunt her from the inside of a mental hospital. That is calculated. She is not safe.
OR she gave up custody of him to keep Him safely away from a criminal that is clearly unhinged and dangerous. He is stalking, abusive, oppositional and defiant of any court order, and she has clearly been dismissed by the court and by judgmental people who don't seem to get what it is to be terrorized by someone so fully that this choice becomes the safest one to protect their only child. The absolute thickness...
@lizetteolsen3218 why would they have? This isn't "CPS land" its court, where some made assumptions as to why she left without knowing more, prompting the Judge to correctly voice regret that they couldn't hear her side of it. Justify your assumptions and judgment elsewhere.
I love Middleton for some stuff but I think he’s too lenient on violent offenders. This guy being out and attempting contact is exactly why she’s hot and cold. She’s scared because they keep letting this worthless man have blatant contact with her even at the courthouse!!!!
I don't see how any of that is the judge's fault. Debbie should have been more careful to protect her witness at the courthouse. That isn't the judge's job. Judges can only deny bond in pretty extreme cases - the defendant is innocent until proven guilty, so can't be jailed just because they've been accused of a crime.
@@thomasdalton1508 I think Judges consider the complaint and prior history when considering bond. That’s why it is legal for people to be held without bond even before they’ve been tried.
You see how busy they are. We need a lot more judges, staff, courts jail space, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and police. The way people act right now we probably need to quadruple what we have.
Children have no more value than adults. Even the bible agrees on that as the punishments for murder and death in monetary value decrease as a child's age decreases eventually even reaching 0 as in no value at all. Society should see them as equal though contrary to what religion says on saying children have no value or old women karens think believing that adults have next to none compared to children.
Prosecutor didn't prepare her 1st witness very well, and then lost the other by not communicating to her she should not leave. Although a hostile witness.
I’m pretty sure she told her to leave because she was positive she didn’t need her testimony. When the judge starts asking where she is, Debbie gets real shady and doesn’t say much. I don’t think she should have been there to testify in the first place.
The police officer needs to undergo refresher training on how to diligently present evidence to court. Judge Middleton was not impressed by his "spots of" indecision and lack of preparedness.
Perhaps they should pay police officers more then to be everykbes babysitters, mediators, therapists, Marriage counselors etc. Any other expert witness appearing in court for the plaintiff/Defendant gets paid crazy $$ by the hour
Police officers get subpoenaed so many times, and are rarely called to testify. If they prepared for testimony every time they were subpoenaed, they would have a little time left to actually be law-enforcement officers.
While I partially agree, it’s mostly the fault of the prosecutor - she should have told him to read his notes beforehand, and she should have prepped him with the questions that she was going to ask him.
@@j.lingle4713 All right. I see that point a little bit but come on. I guess I just feel like if I was a police officer and knew I was going to be called to the stand to testify I would at least get my shit straight
I'm surprised in Michigan they both lost those rights over that. Is it justified? Yes. Is it common? No. These 2 are totally ridiculous together and separate.
He got what he deserved for his own actions, how stupid is he to do this of all places in a courthouse with cameras everywhere. I dont know how bad the abuse was but if they are not careful with this case we may end up hearing about a murder that could have been prevented.,
Good call Judge Middleton. He deserves to be in jail. She needs to be reprimanded for having contact after she had the order. I hope you will bring us the hearing on t he 30th
The defendant has like ZERO impulse control. Remember he spent time in the psych hospital. He needs some serious therapy and hopefully with a stretch of time in the pokey he can get some. And possibly some meds.
If he's like this with a female I can only imagine what he'll be like with the adoptive parents. You know he'll hunt them down JUST to give the child a scrape book.
I watched this live. That dude looks like a violent stalker. His victim isn't making it easy. Middleton made the right decision. Debbie doesn't get the appreciation she deserves. She tries her best to help people who need it but don't want it.
I am so fond of that wolf. He is wonderful. Thanks for the follow up about the parental rights of both parents were removed. I still fear the defendant will kill the mother of the child.
She is mad at the system for terminating her parental rights, well then grow up and act like a adult. Do what you need to do to get the child back. If you are able to. She is acting like a child..she got mad at the system so she left? Maybe she should be brought up on contempt charges. Her lawyer has to understand, and Im sure she does, but it doesnt seem like it listening to her. HER client has violated the PPO as well. You dont want contact, you dont let him come back and live with you after he has surgery. Who knows if there was other times this happened, this is one example. Its clear he doesnt care what the judge says since he said he wants to reconcile with her. What does she want? This one is just a big mess
Judge Middleton is absolutely correct, the cop should have reviewed his report before testifying. You'd think that would be police policy not to mention "best practice".
This case is a mess. There is only so much the criminal justice system can do with domestic violence victims that want to continue to have relationships with their assailants. The victim is an adult and, at some point, has to be held responsible for her own decisions (it seems the family court did exactly that). It is notable that nobody said who approached who in the parking lot. That makes me think the victim initiated the contact. The defendant should never have gone out there knowing she had just left (so the judge was justified in revoking bond), but it does seem the contact was mutual. It is also very clear that she was already leaving, so him following her out was not the cause of her not testifying. Debbie asserted that the prior contact between them was the reason, but offered nothing to substantiate that. This doesn't seem to be a case of witness intimidation. It is simply a victim that doesn't want to pursue charges. The judge clearly suspects that all the charges in all the cases will end up being dropped because the victim won't cooperate, which is why he was reluctant to revoke bond (but ended up doing so because it makes a mockery of the court orders if there are no consequences to violating them). He's probably right. This case is probably going nowhere.
I am happy there's a person in this world I agree with and is willing to explain the situation correctly. I've written paragraphs before and people pick it apart. Normally, it had nothing to do with the exact situation!
hopefully we will get to see how its resolved at the end of the month. im betting that gar bage will spend his whole time in jail trying to figure out how he can still contact the victim
‘I’m just trying to stay out of jail’. By doing every possible things to go to jail? What a creep. He never got it, doesn’t get it, and surely never will.
The guy is knowingly breaking the protective order he should be locked up this bs he won't learn he thinks this not serious he's going to harass her there only one way to make him understand
Judge Middleton is extremely nice and he is typically a good judge, but when a victim’s physical and psychological safety is concerned, his tendency to believe things that defendants like this say in court is very dangerous. I have watched him “deal” with this defendant over a year now, and Middleton, in my opinion, has consistently endangered the victim by mollycoddling this defendant. He said at the beginning that the victim has been “hot and cold”. If he truly understood anything about abusive relationships and narcissistic behavior, he would understand the fear that victims have and the reason why they tend to refuse to participate in the legal system. He has truly failed this woman, and I hope he learns a little something about abusers before a victim truly gets hurt. Sorry to say this, but he has been way too lenient in this case.
The victim has to be willing to speak in court. Why yes people in abusive relationships can be manipulated not to speak but as we found out in the Heard/Depp trial the victim is not always the victim.
@@jeffnorris8848 The victim has spoken in this case, and testified, but has been unwilling to participate at certain times as the defendant has been harassing her off and on for at least the last year. As I mentioned, I’ve been watching this case for a while now. 😉
@@kimstelly9480 Testified???? its a prelim hearing so where is her sworn testimony in this case. If you have a link to her sworn testimony provide it. I suspect you are confusing other cases that this crazy couple have been involved in.
@@jeffnorris8848 This is a victim he has repeatedly victimized. Not interested in educating, not confused, just stating my opinion on the previous year of appearances with this defendant. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@kimstelly9480 maybe , she seems to continue to let him into her life. I believe the judge mentioned that she let him stay at her house even though she had a TPO against him. I notice you did not mention her previous testimony in this case as you can not find the evidence to support your opinion. Perhaps you realized that she had not testified as the prelim had been adjourned for various reasons. This Victim has lost custody of her child likely because she continues to have contact with this NUTJOB.
Well, defective Hewitt is certainly more subdued in this hearing than he was in his last, when he was escorted out of the courtroom screaming at the judge & his stalking victim that he would NEVER leave her alone. This man is one of the most narcissistic chugs to ever set foot in a courtroom - and ain’t that saying something? He needs to be locked away for a few years.
Is that hearing on this channel, when and was that judge Middleton too? I would really like to see that, I went back for a while but maybe I didn't go back far enough... If you would be so kind as to point me in the right direction I would seriously appreciate that 😇
I think his point is that it sounded like she was leaving before the contact. I understand that the eye contact would be plenty but can also understand that hearing about them having a confrontation in the parking lot sounds like she was on the way out prior to contact
She left because shewas mad they took her parental rights away. They took them away because she kept fuc%ing with this loser and not putting her child and her own safety first. This punk hasbeen locked up for huge amounts of time andshe has done nothing to get away from him. She welcomes him back into her everytime. Domestic violence education and resources have been out there for decades. At some point you have to stand up and say "no more" no matter how scared you are.
Sounds like he's a frequent flyer at the psych hospital where he probably beats up the staff while he's there and gets there by threatening harm to himself or others. Just a guess.....
The first and reason I’ve got hooked on court cases was because of Judge Middleton and Prosecutor Debra Davis when she caught a dude in the house of the victim! Wondering if this is the same yahoo and prosecutors dropped the ball? It is not. Just watched inside addition 3/21 his name was Colby or Cody Harris.
When judge told officer he should’ve reviewed his report before testimony, thought to myself right before judge mentioned. One night not retain dates but retain after reviewing about the phone call.
Why did the judge need so much time, deep thought, and testimony to come to that decision? He blatantly and repeatedly defied his bond conditions and vowed to continue to do so. That should have been all the information he needed.
Did Deb say her rights were terminated to her child? I played it back 50 times and I think that’s what she said…how sad Wow. Just imagine losing your poor, innocent child because you couldn’t stay away from his abusive father. Judge was right “that’s about as sad as it gets” I know the system is jacked up, but how could both of them not see what was at stake?!
@@teaburgyeah I made that comment before watching til the end. They both knew what was at stake and it sounds like neither one of them took it serious…he’s still trying to talk about reconciliation even after that! 🫣
Very well said. I did a lot of work in juvenile court and all I can say is jump thru the hoops, do what you’re supposed to do, put the child first. These two don’t deserve this baby. Sadly, there are so many kids in such situations.😢
Because a lot of us live in a world where we believe The right thing will happen. But instead we live in a world where police, prosecutors and judges have the power to do as they will to you and your family. Don't forget what happened in New York seven children taken from their mother because she didn't trust public schools and wanted to homeschool them. We're losing our rights everyday and people coming on being cheerleaders about it or the real problem. If Debbie Davis didn't get so much UA-cam stardom from these cases she wouldn't do them.
I know he wasn’t happy about sending him to jail, but that is precisely where he needed to go right then. He won’t follow directions, something even little kids are taught to do, and basically said he wasn’t going to. I’d be willing to bet he’s going to follow the rules in jail, though!
10:00 : “…and here…we are . . . “ Sometimes judges must just want to hit their own heads with their gavel! What can be done with a completely unrepentant repeat offender who announces that he’ll just try to reoffend??
He ignored every personal protection and no contact order that was issued against him and he even stated that no matter how many orders were made by the court that he WOULD continue to see her and then he is surprised that the judge had him locked up. I can understand that it would be sort of confusing for him because she was sending mixed signals but where he made his mistake was in thinking that because SHE possibly didn't mean it when she told him to stay away, the Court certainly DID mean it. If the only way to keep him away from her is to lock him up then so be it!
Cop can’t remember anything without his notes. Prosecutor isn’t good at setting a foundation or leading her own witness. Defense basically says, it is what it is judge but can he get another slap on the wrist please.
Its not unusual. Do you remember every interaction you had in the last 90 days? Without writing notes or reports to refer back to its highly unlikely any officer would remember everything they could be called to testify about. What I would like to see though is that instead of them testifying they just play the bodycam and then fill in the blanks.
It's allowed to ensure the officer doesn't lie or state anything to make them end up on the Brady List. However, many judges want a prepared witness, especially law enforcement witnesses. If a report is submitted as evidence and is admitted, it can we used. However, it's part of the job to know and enforce the laws. The officer must be able to speak factually based off their memory as a witness. An unprepared officer is their own worst enemy!
I love judge MIddleton. But I don't understand his hesitance to throw this pos in jail. It is true that his victim has the all too familiar problems about giving evidence, but that problem is quite well understood by courts and the legal system these days.
Unfortunately, Debra Davis was fired from the Prosecutor's Office because of this case. She has made statements defending her position. Ms. Davis is a great attorney, and the People will be the ones that suffer in the end. 😢
Agreed with you, he should of thought about all this, they both should have BEFORE it got out of hand and they lost custody. What about what the kid wants? ok, he is four, do you think its going to be confusing for him seeing this guy again before he is adopted?
This victim is AFRAID OF THIS GUY!!! He violated his PO in front of the world at the courthouse with no one protecting her. Of course she left. He was not at all made to stay off of her. This system is so flawed
im surprised her lawyer even let her go out there without at least telling one of the deputies to escort her knowing that piece of garbage saw her leaving the building - i almost feel like she bears some responsibility in this - there had to have been another way to get out of there besides that one door but i could be wrong
Ohhhh you victims... clenching your pearls...
@@adjustableWenchif she went outside to meet and interact with him, then she isn't afraid of him. Though she should be. . When people fear something they automatically go into fight or flight mode . She did neither .She went outside to interact with him.
@@adjustableWenchshe doesn't have a lawyer in this matter only the defendant has a lawyer. The other lawyer participating in this case is there representing the people and society at large.
@@adjustableWench she thought security would not let him just walk out the door after she had gone, but sure, it is all her fault.
Bond is cancelled has never happened to a better person.
You know she lost her job over this case?
@@daviddoyle982 Looks like the good citizens of St. Joseph County just gave her a promotion.
He sounds like one of those types who say, "if I can't have her, nobody can"....and would definitely unalive her if he sees that a possibility.
I agree, the victim must be terrified of this guy's continued delusion and his persistent and determination to be with her, regardless of the consequences. No wonder she's angry with the court, she probably feels so let down as they can't seem to keep him away from her.
These victims know that the courts will not protect them and get coercively controlled and stalked by the perp to get the outcome he wants. They need to jail these guys so that the women have a chance to get out of the situation.
Until they either make this idiot understand that the woman wants absolutely nothing to do with him and accepts that, they either need to be locked up without any chance of getting out.
"Earl walked right through that restraining order and put her in intensive care." -- The Dixie Chicks, Goodbye Earl
Exactly
Wow this defendant’s insistence on speaking to judge Middleton outside the presence of his attorney, after the judge told him explicitly not to talk and especially not about his case, is extremely telling! He was directly told no and why not, by a judge. He said he understood and he wouldn’t. Then he says it’s not about the case. And he immediately launched into talking about the case. He has absolutely no impulse control, even directly in the face of an authority who could put him in jail for a very long time. It’s scary to think how he behaves in other settings if direct and immediate deception and defiance are the best he can do in court
I don't think he was deceptive at all. He seemed to be completely honest about his infractions, first with the police officer and then with the judge.
He has definite control power and doesn’t understand or care he’s looking to get locked up till end days. He best turn his life around and fixate on himself. Coming right out his intentions on this woman was telling
@@thomasdalton1508 There are different types and styles of deception. This is a powerful thing to learn. There are those who decieve with lies, and those who decieve with truth. The latter is far more dangerous than the former. Those who will decieve with truth will tell you to your face what they are doing, make you think they intend to change, and not only continue their deceptive patterns of behavior but double down and ramp up those activities to dangerous levels with no concern for others or self.
In layman's terms "he's an idiot"
Are we just going to gloss over what he said to the judge? He said some weird crap about how he hopes that 50 years from now, he and Carly will be together and look back on this as just a bad memory, or something to that tune. Oh my god. He is so delusional. He thinks they are destined to be together and nothing can stop fate. He is so crazy. And that’s the stuff he’s willing to say in front of a judge while being recorded on video and audio. Imagine the stuff he has said to that girl when nobody else is around. “Carly, I’m going to fashion your bones into a set of dentures for my pet iguana”.
Good call from Middleton. The defendant continually defying court orders rendered the system impotent. Kudos to taking back the honor of the court.
HE FOLLOWED HER out. THAT IS CONTACT. REVOKE BOND. DONE
How many times does he have to not pay bonds, violate perole, scare her so that she fears for her life and not thrown in jail for the maximum sentence?
The court only has to let him out one more time than he violates.
She doesn't care. She refuses to stop contact to the point she chose him over her child. I understand trauma bond but that's insane.
@@christyinthecarolinas
wtf are you talking about?
🤦🏻🙄
Coercive control and stalking.
@@christyinthecarolinasHe is the one contacting HER not the other way round.
As he is being escorted out at the end, he says "She got my attention", referring to the interaction he had with earlier that day. Implication being that he did in fact speak to her. He can claim being unwittingly tempted to speak to her, but he followed her outside as per the video evidence. He's convicted himself.
Yes. Legally, even if she calls him, flags him down, texts him to come over...he CANNOT respond and contact her. It's clear he doesn't care what the court says.
exactly - and even IF she got his attention outside hes the one that followed her out there - which he didnt need to do - dumba ss
Actually there are laws against baiting someone you have a PPO/TPO/RO/SO out against. So yah, she CAN go to jail too. These are recent laws due to the upsurge in the amount of women using this to "guarantee" custody.
@@Youre-Welcome
"Oh, c'mon your honor! I did absolutely NOTHING the court ordered me to do to maintain my probation, and I violated every possible order I could!"
"You can't lock me up for that!"
MIDDLETON: "Yeah, I just got your attention also"...Mic Drop Moment of the Week 🎤💧
What a mess this was! Judge Middleton definitely made the right decision! Also, you could tell he was not happy with the contact that occurred in or around his courthouse with everyone, including the prosecutor and I don’t blame him!!
"I hate that she is going through what she is going through". Sir YOU are what she is going through.
So well said!!
That's not true. She lost her children to the state. That's what she is going through
@@LightInsights You missed the forest for the trees. He won't leave her alone. You see how relentless he is with the male judge? Now times that by 1000x with her alone. He has a fantasy with her that he will never let her go and he has been destroying her self esteem for years. He is what she is going through. I'm not saying she shouldn't have lost the kids because it wasn't a safe environment but to divorce that of all context is ridiculous.
Coercive control and stalking. We have to call it what it is.
@@ivydickson7596 You are 100% right.
If this creep had been a father in the beginning, he wouldn’t be here. I hope that little boy has wonderful parents
He clearly has impulse control issues and sees himself as the victim. He can't even shut up in court so I'm 110% sure that he violated wayyyyyy more than what's been documented.
You know that’s right.
"I just got your attention, also." 💀💀 Love Judge Middleton.
I feel bad for Judge Middleton. He tries so hard to help people and defendants like this guy show just how bad it can get. You can tell at the end of the trial that Judge Middleton is at the end of his rope. How the man doesn't become an alcoholic is a testimony to his character as a man.
He was really trying hard to find a reason NOT to cancel the bond and for all his efforts, he was clearly frustrated at the defendant's refusal to follow a simple command like "don't talk without your lawyer." If someone can't maintain composure and have some self control in the court room, they DEFINITELY have none outside the court room.
I think the judge was seeing the big picture. He knows that the victim isn't a victim but his hands are tied. The state brought charges so he has to deal with it
This judge is too lenient too often imo almost like he’s scared he’s going to get called out by these woke azzholes instead of doing his job and not worrying about YT or the blue haired entitled hippies that don’t think the law applies to them or just dgaf imo. Annoys me if you can’t tell lol
That’s why he has all that gray hair.
Judge Middleton tries to help the criminals get any treatment that can benefit them, while at the same time protecting the victims to the best ability the law will allow.
He’s on bond in two different courts. This is what is wrong with our justice system. This man should be in jail. Period. None of this repeated bond crap. This is the type of defender that will turn around commit murder, and then commit suicide. He is that sociopathic.
Okay. I just finished watching the video. My previous comment was kind of in bad taste. I’m leaving it up because I still think it’s kinda funny. Just bad taste. But wow. This dude is a piece of work. You are totally right. He’s gonna kill that girl. What a f’ing freak. This dude needs to learn what healthy relationships look like. This is crazy.
😅@@chrissturley823
@@chrissturley823 Not funny. Someone is sexually assaulted every 68 seconds in the US.
@@chrissturley823
Your previous comment isn't funny at all.
It's reprehensible and sickening.
You sound creepy and cringe trying to "joke" about a person who is being victimized.
You stated you know it's offensive but are leaving it up because it's "funny"?
Funny to whom?
Incels? Abusers?
Murderers?
Family annihilators?
No one is laughing.
Leaving that sick, dumb comment up is ignorant and not funny in the least.
Do you have any women or girls you care about in your life?
Mom? Sister?
Try imagining some freak abusing them,
would that be funny?
What if you got severely injured by someone and I made a "joke" about it, would you find it funny???
Not taking that dumb comment down will tell everyone all we need to know about you .
YOU are ABSOLUTELY 100% right!! That's what gets me so upset with our courts!!! And they CONSTANTLY give the defendant sooo many court dates sometimes it will go on for a year! It's sickening and ridiculous how it seems everything is in favor for the stalker!!
I had a similar problem with my ex husband. He kept breaking the PFA time and time again and nothing would happen to him. The one time he broke the door down and got into the house . I called the police. We lived about 20 feet over the township border for our police district so we had to rely on the state police for help. It took them 3 hours. A black eye, broken nose and 2 cracked ribs was that result and he never went to jail and not even a fine. Absolutely bs. This system failed me which is why I haven't dated since 2012 and probably won't and it's failing this woman. He breaks the protection order 4 times and even right there at the court house. That's why she left and I don't blame her. Thankfully this judge locked the defender up. It's about time. Way to go judge. I was acting like a cheerleader after he locked him up. I'm happy being single and not dating, I'm a positive person and will help anyone and content. Hopefully this woman can finally relax and heal.
hopefully ur not living anywhere near ur ex so u can actually have some peace
But what about her refusal to stop contact to the point they took her child away? That's my issue.
If he did that to you there's no way he didn't go to jail. Your speaking lies
Hum, are we watching the same video she commented on? Don’t dare call someone a liar that is ignorant, tone deaf and you’re victim blaming. Even if you had your doubts, to call her a liar is disgusting. I hope you’re not a grown adult thinking and commenting like this. I am all for our justice system but why don’t you go watch the countless DV reports that resulted in tragedy or even worse the countless times CPS had multiple reports, children with er records where they had bruises, broken bones and many teachers/family calling to report and they either don’t take things seriously or close the case-it’s only until something serious happens. So ask yourself, if that can go on and with children, then yes, other things may or may not be taken seriously.
Don’t call people liars, especially if it’s based on just a bias, opinion, because that is truly just disgusting.
I need to clarify when I stated I’m all for our justice system, I Am for it when things are done that we obviously not corrupt, same with law enforcement, I don’t unfairly profile all based upon some. There’s good & bad in life, period, and yes some of those bad people wear uniforms, lab coats, billionaires, princes, teachers, lawyers, etc. I respect the law & order when it respects their sworn oaths, just needed to clarify that.
I’m blown away that he and her lost the child because they couldn’t stay away from each other. That means they’re so selfish that they lost their child. And then he he wanted the judge to feel bad for him because he hast to say goodbye to his son. Sorry dude you’re the reason why you don’t have a son anymore
It’s probably best for the child to be out of their screwed up lives. I hope he finds a loving home that neither parent can have contact.
"I think my client is aware of what type of conduct is acceptable and what type of conduct isn't."
He clearly does not.
Oh, he’s aware, he just doesn’t care
Oh, really? Does he now?
This is the most chill judge ever.
It's amazing how someone can be so consistently awful as to force such a chill judge to put the hammer down like that.
Completely warranted.
I love judge Middleton he really tries to help people 😊
Damn right
He's way too chill and way too lenient. If I lived in his county I'd be very unhappy. The things he allows people to get away with and his lenient sentencing is one of the big reasons why criminals don't fear the consequences of their crimes. Then he wonders why he sees the same people over and over again. I'm sure he's a nice guy, a great neighbor and community member, but as a judge I think he's terrible.
To a fault, which is why he has no business being a judge.@@flygirl9289
This abuser is so delusional that he thinks they're going to be together for 50 years, and look back and laugh at him flagrantly violating a No Contact Order! WTAF
I wonder if they will reminisce about their child who got taken away because dad beat mom, and mom cared more about dad than her kid. That's a sweet thing to look back on and laugh. /s
@justinejackowicz3043if she's so weak she can't get away from him to keep her child, she does not deserve her child. Stop making excuses for her, he was in jail 186 days and she still wants him. She has to accept the responsibility and the consequences for that.
I’m not entirely sure that is delusional. Never underestimate the power and abuser has over their victim. By the time the abusers get violent, the abusers have already convinced the victim that they are worthless, that no one else would ever love them because they are not worthy, and they should be grateful that they have their abusive partner
I don't necessarily believe he's abusing her. I believe it's a toxic relationship. All it takes is one fight when a "victim" calls the police and sometimes they lie.....in this case that's exactly what happened but yet the UA-cam just deems him a sociopath
@@valerierodgeryou're absolutely correct but we don't know that's the case in this scenario
When parents have behaviors so bad they get referred to CPS, they are typically given 3 months to follow the improvement plan CPS gives them. The child may or may not be given over to the temporary custody of the state, ie to a foster parent.
After they fail to complete the Improvement Plan in the time allotted the judge will almost always give them another 3 months to make progress. If there are egregious circumstances then CPS can go back to court and the judge can make the decision to discontinue the plan immediately and remove the children permanently, making them eligible for legal adoption, by the foster family, other family members or another adoptive family.
If I were to fill in the blanks as it were it sounds like the husband continues to be abusive and his wife keeps inviting him back into the home. CPS then tells the judge both parents are failing to follow the Improvement Plan and the judge permanently terminates the parental rights. It would be as if the parents here never had children. Foster kids have their records sealed and the state guards their privacy with great priority.
So now we've got a mother who is mad at the system for "taking her kids" and won't cooperate with the state. We have a father to whom it's more important to continue to see and beat his wife rather than do what's best for the kids so he can continue to be a father. Finally we have a prosecutor and judge who want to protect the child but the parents won't stop disobeying court orders.
This is a pretty bad case. The prosecutor is still working to protect the wife despite the lack of cooperation. The judge likewise knows where this is going and is making the tough decisions to leave the husband in jail. What a mess.
When the judge canceled his bond, the sound of his disbelief was astounding. What did he think was going to happen? Did he think this was all a game? Yes, he dug this hole and just couldn't believe the judge would put him in jail. When you pull crap like continually violating a PPO, think about what the worst consequence would be. He clearly didn't think of that.
I hope Carly comes to her senses. She has already lost her baby because of him. As obsessed as he is, she could lose her life.
I could see it - dad is let go, goes to mom and says "YOU caused me to lose my kid!" Next chapter ensues.
I think the mom may be partly to blame for losing parental rights to her child is more than just the actions of the child's father. They don't take children from the mom just because the dad is a piece of garbage. There must be more to the child and the mom versus what is going on in this video. It is definitely a shame as a child deserves to have 2 loving parents and to lose both yet both parents still being alive is a burden the child will carry for the rest of their life. Even if they have the most amazing parents adopt the child depending on the age they'll always have that thought in the back of their mind at times questioning why their mother didn't fight for them or what not. It's just sad.
@@MidgetPunterthat's correct.
My guess is she has a messy life and doesn’t always make good decisions. However messy her life may be, she should be free from harassment by this mentally ill person. Now, if she has had any willing contact with him after the PPO was in place, then she is part of her own problem.
She might be afraid of what happens when he gets out.
"He should have reviewed his report before he ever got up here to testify.". Love it!!!
I always wonder when they say they would need to review their report. Why wouldn't you review it before testifying? SMH
Lol I said that in my post and then the judge says the same. 😂
@@dianedobson1104I said that in my head, and then the judge said the same. Isn't it nice to know we've learned a thing or two? 😂
Yeah, I was secondhand embarrassed for the officer at that point
@@ScubaFanatic60 generally speaking, do review the file before testifying. I wonder if this officer was just so certain he recalled everything he didn’t think he needed to?
As to why officers or other expert witnesses have to review their reports when testifying, how well do you remember everything you’ve done on every shift you’ve worked for the past year? Or the past five or six years? If you had to deal with an incident that took up multiple pages of shorthand notes and you had to talk about it weeks or months later, do you think even after reviewing your report you would remember every detail? And if remembering it correctly could mean the difference between justice being done or a guilty party walking free, if you weren’t 100% certain you were remembering a detail correctly, would you want to double check your notes or would you just take the chance?
Took a long time to get him into jail but he got his fair trial and he blew it!
I certainly do not agree with giving defendants credit for time served when the time was served on a different matter or charge.
Of course you don't. You believe incarceration is a solution. Despite more than ample proof incarceration is NOT a solution.
@@Katchi_ You are 100% wrong. IMHO. Incarceration stops EACH defendant from re-offending while they are in jail. Show me your ample proof. The problem is not incarceration, it is judges who are too lenient and keep letting criminals off easy. I worked as a Correctional Officer and I have seen very little proof of rehabilitation being effective. Look up the cases where, not only do defendants re-offend while on probation/parole, they also do it on pre-trial release. Up to and including murder.
@@davident1 Of course you are an alleged correctional stooge. You literally proved every study in existence. There is no rehabilitation. You have NEVER witnessed rehabilitation, or education. You are on the exact same level as the incarcerated. Your country incarcerates more people than the next three countries COMBINED. Other industrialized nations do not have this problem. So of course by your logic that is not possible.
@@davident1 I should start by saying that I'm on your side - no, you should not share credit for time served across multiple offenses. But I'd like to disagree with your assertion that 'rehabilitation isn't effective.' First of all, of COURSE rehabilitation is effective. Recidivism occurs when rehabilitation was not successful. Why might rehabilitation fail? For the reasons you mention - parole is an imperfect system, judges can be hesitant to levy bigger sentences for repeat offenses... But further, recidivism happens when the accused is mentally ill, and does not receive any mental health treatment (or neglects treatment under a system which fails to hold them accountable.) Obviously in this case we're discussing, the stalker is LITERALLY mentally ill. No impulse control whatsoever, no self-preservation, no regrets or understanding. Punishment is not going to fix this person, and your anecdotal evidence (the time you spent as a CO) wouldn't convince most of us otherwise.
@@A38 Valid points. Maybe I'm just jaded. LOL
This guy is too ignorant to be free.
Entitled and violent.
I love how he asks why his bond was cancelled, uh we just spent the last 40 minutes talking about why?
Sounds like he’s not his son anymore. Poor child. Didn’t deserve parents like this for sure. 😭
Yes, so sorry that the child is the victim
"It doesn't help me!" What a slimeball. He won't comply with anything. I hope he doesn't end her life.
You're definitely rubbing yourself to the thought right now and wish it was you
I loved the subtext when he said that and Judge Middleton said "no, it doesn't", but I could hear the end of that sentence, "but it might help her"... and just on the off chance that it might help her and get her to tell her story, he locked the creep up. This guy needs to stay in jail. They need to levy that life charge this time.
@@screwgoogle4993: Snarky!
@ screwgoogle4993 Stop projecting.
Coercive control and stalking.
Judge Middleton is probably my favorite judge out of all the judges I watch. When somebody s*** stinks he will not hesitate to tell them. That cop was not ready for court and he said yeah you probably should have read that before you testified and came here to the courthouse
Middleton is the first judge I've ever heard who could quote Lewis Carroll, cite lyrics from the Rolling Stones, and can name all the members of both Deep Purple and Pink Floyd.
@@TheUluxian I remember that one
To be blessed with a child and to throw that blessing away--and then to act surprised that he's going to jail. Unbelievable. Your commentary was spot-on, by the way. Well done.
And when he stated about seeing his son before adoption with absolutely NO remorse shows where his mind is! He didn't seem upset at all he was losing his son forever.
Imagine the lengths he'll go to in order to see his son. After he gets out of jail, of course. He's an obsessive nut job who needs to be in a mental institution.
How many women have lost their lives to men like him who refuse to move on? Until he comes to the realization that if he can't have her no one can. Crazy. PPO do not always protect anyone.
Riiight... She has NO culpability in this.
No, she doesn’t. He is responsible for his behavior. Period. She is responsible for her behavior. Period. He had been told to stay away. His responsibility is to avoid her like the plague, I don’t care what she does or says. He wouldn’t be in this situation if he would just do what he is supposed to do.
Why does she keep engaging with him? Of course this nutjob will probably end up doing something crazy but he's been locked up long enough for her to get her shit together. Instead she lost her child because she wouldn't stop messing with this loser
@@Katchi_ What a ridiculous comment !
Too many, one is too many.
He's shocked he's going to jail because they keep giving him chance after chance and he knows that. Until he is given a real bigger than jail punishment he won't change, it's probably too late now. 🤔🙄😕
This is better than 99.9% of current television.
"He has two things hanging over his head." Like HE is some sort of victim.
This guy is a menace and is going where he belongs, but if the system had dealt with him him more seriously at the beginning and had incarcerated him on his first violation, he might be more likely to learn his lesson. I can't understand why the child's mother would want anything to do with someone who had her child for life, especially someone who has beat on her
Anyone else happy to hear that their kid was taken away from these people!
Relieved more than happy..
WTF Michigan. The judge said the computer system has been down for 5 months? Can we not do better than this?
It’s Michigan!
Considering what happened with their water system, I’m sure no one cares about having a properly running system in Michigan.
Mi wasted all their computer budget years ago when they paid millions for a software program to flag people for unemployment fraud. Too bad the system flagged several hundred innocent people, while the state automatically denied their appeals, fined them 10x the amount the faulty program said they stole. This resulted many bankruptcies, some divorces, and at least one suicide. So be thankful the computer system isn't working.
No. We can not. I live in the capital of Michigan. Lansing. Just finished dealing with the courts. If you commit a petty crime, they’ll do their best to watch you like a hawk and make your life hell and they will do an awesome job of keeping you in check. But if you are a serious criminal, they won’t do anything. Real violent criminals roam free in Michigan. Our courts are a joke.
A lot of courthouses computer systems just got hacked a while back and it’s taken a while to recover from it.
Some of these lawyers are such lousy communicators. It's surprising.
It's a hard profession to get into and 10s of thousands of jobs slots open everywhere there can only be so many good ones
I've said this elsewhere: Judge Middleton is the definition of "sober as a judge"...never wound up, no outbursts, no drama, just making judgements based on the evidence and law. We need more people like him.
That ia as stupid as it gets! No- you can't take pictures with "your son"! He's NOT yours anymore! 😢
seriously! once ur rights are terminated somehow i doubt the adoption organization would let u anywhere near the child to potentially try to run with him or mess him up even more by having that contact
The woman in essence gave up her child for an abusive man. Most mother's will fight to the death to protect their children and these two subjected him to chaos and fear. The man acting like making a scrapbook is so important but being a loving caring human isn't. Even babies feel that anger in the atmosphere to their detriment.
I do not think that is what happened. I think the child was taken away b/c the household was violent. Clearly, he knows how to manipulate the system--he has at least 4 active DV cases, including a civil PPO, and no one is protecting her. He used the system to continue to haunt her from the inside of a mental hospital. That is calculated. She is not safe.
She's awful. SHE needs severe therapy before she goes find another crazy and gets pregnant by him 'cause she wants to be a Mum agaain' Waaaah
OR she gave up custody of him to keep Him safely away from a criminal that is clearly unhinged and dangerous. He is stalking, abusive, oppositional and defiant of any court order, and she has clearly been dismissed by the court and by judgmental people who don't seem to get what it is to be terrorized by someone so fully that this choice becomes the safest one to protect their only child. The absolute thickness...
@@persaunna They would have said that. In CPS land, termination of parental rights is a sanction.
@lizetteolsen3218 why would they have? This isn't "CPS land" its court, where some made assumptions as to why she left without knowing more, prompting the Judge to correctly voice regret that they couldn't hear her side of it. Justify your assumptions and judgment elsewhere.
I love Middleton for some stuff but I think he’s too lenient on violent offenders. This guy being out and attempting contact is exactly why she’s hot and cold. She’s scared because they keep letting this worthless man have blatant contact with her even at the courthouse!!!!
I don't see how any of that is the judge's fault. Debbie should have been more careful to protect her witness at the courthouse. That isn't the judge's job. Judges can only deny bond in pretty extreme cases - the defendant is innocent until proven guilty, so can't be jailed just because they've been accused of a crime.
100% agree.
She could have gone to an officer and told officer she needed help. She didn't do that. She has to take responsibility for her actions also
@@thomasdalton1508 I think Judges consider the complaint and prior history when considering bond. That’s why it is legal for people to be held without bond even before they’ve been tried.
You see how busy they are. We need a lot more judges, staff, courts jail space, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and police.
The way people act right now we probably need to quadruple what we have.
I wish all the best to the unfortunate son.
Any mother that chooses a so-called man over her baby, should never experience happiness again. Shame on you.
Children have no more value than adults. Even the bible agrees on that as the punishments for murder and death in monetary value decrease as a child's age decreases eventually even reaching 0 as in no value at all. Society should see them as equal though contrary to what religion says on saying children have no value or old women karens think believing that adults have next to none compared to children.
"I don't care what that crazy judge and his restraining order says, we'll always be together!" - every stalker 😂
What type of woman would lose her children (and rightfully so) over an abusive man?
A super, unattractive, skinny, useless abuser‼️
Thank you judge for making the right decision he’s been intimidating her, that’s why she didn’t want to be in court!!!
Great judge. He does an excellent job. Fair and he tries to help as much as possible.
This is a hot mess. Prosecutor not prepared and cop is definitely not prepared. The victim isnt even there anymore😮😮😮😮
Prosecutor didn't prepare her 1st witness very well, and then lost the other by not communicating to her she should not leave. Although a hostile witness.
I’m pretty sure she told her to leave because she was positive she didn’t need her testimony. When the judge starts asking where she is, Debbie gets real shady and doesn’t say much. I don’t think she should have been there to testify in the first place.
i couldn't start the DV classes to comply with my probation because I was too busy committing other crimes
The police officer needs to undergo refresher training on how to diligently present evidence to court. Judge Middleton was not impressed by his "spots of" indecision and lack of preparedness.
Perhaps they should pay police officers more then to be everykbes babysitters, mediators, therapists, Marriage counselors etc.
Any other expert witness appearing in court for the plaintiff/Defendant gets paid crazy $$ by the hour
The prosecutor should have gone over this when/if she prepped him. She really didn’t appear prepared - it was evident in the questioning.
Neither was Wolfie
Police officer had probably been to court on this 10 plus times and it
Kept getting continued.
Police officers get subpoenaed so many times, and are rarely called to testify. If they prepared for testimony every time they were subpoenaed, they would have a little time left to actually be law-enforcement officers.
That police officer needs to refresh his memory with his notes before he gets called to the stand. What unprofessionalism!
While I partially agree, it’s mostly the fault of the prosecutor - she should have told him to read his notes beforehand, and she should have prepped him with the questions that she was going to ask him.
Judge was not impressed at all.
@@j.lingle4713 All right. I see that point a little bit but come on. I guess I just feel like if I was a police officer and knew I was going to be called to the stand to testify I would at least get my shit straight
@@j.lingle4713A police officer shouldn't need to be told something like that. They are trained on how to give evidence.
@@j.lingle4713 Unless this was the officer's first time testifying, he already knew that.
I'm surprised in Michigan they both lost those rights over that. Is it justified? Yes. Is it common? No. These 2 are totally ridiculous together and separate.
He got what he deserved for his own actions, how stupid is he to do this of all places in a courthouse with cameras everywhere. I dont know how bad the abuse was but if they are not careful with this case we may end up hearing about a murder that could have been prevented.,
Judge Middleton I love watching your videos. Your so patient with the litigants. Love from Austin Texas.
Good call Judge Middleton. He deserves to be in jail. She needs to be reprimanded for having contact after she had the order. I hope you will bring us the hearing on t he 30th
This guy is a piece of work. And very dangerous
The defendant has like ZERO impulse control. Remember he spent time in the psych hospital. He needs some serious therapy and hopefully with a stretch of time in the pokey he can get some. And possibly some meds.
She probably knows that her life is in imminent danger.
She needs to leave the area and stop all contact with the guy.
Let the guy out for bad behavior. Nope.
If he's like this with a female I can only imagine what he'll be like with the adoptive parents. You know he'll hunt them down JUST to give the child a scrape book.
Why does she have a ppo if she doesn't follow it any more than he does?
This guy cannot control himself. I don’t get how adults can reach a point in their life where they cannot accept rejection
I watched this live. That dude looks like a violent stalker. His victim isn't making it easy. Middleton made the right decision.
Debbie doesn't get the appreciation she deserves. She tries her best to help people who need it but don't want it.
This really wasn't Debbie at her best...
No she was testifying. Not cool.
@@deliberateindifferencewi no, she was answering the judges questions, and repeatedly stopping herself when she strayed into testifying.
@@thomasdalton1508😂😂Keep telling yourself that
@@jen-a-purr You think she did a job here? Seriously?
I am so fond of that wolf. He is wonderful. Thanks for the follow up about the parental rights of both parents were removed. I still fear the defendant will kill the mother of the child.
She is mad at the system for terminating her parental rights, well then grow up and act like a adult. Do what you need to do to get the child back. If you are able to. She is acting like a child..she got mad at the system so she left? Maybe she should be brought up on contempt charges. Her lawyer has to understand, and Im sure she does, but it doesnt seem like it listening to her. HER client has violated the PPO as well. You dont want contact, you dont let him come back and live with you after he has surgery. Who knows if there was other times this happened, this is one example. Its clear he doesnt care what the judge says since he said he wants to reconcile with her. What does she want? This one is just a big mess
Judge Middleton is absolutely correct, the cop should have reviewed his report before testifying. You'd think that would be police policy not to mention "best practice".
21:37 judge is irritated that cop didn’t prepare for court. Nice slam, Judge Middleton!
the fact he's shocked that his bond is cancelled is pretty much proof he's delusional.
This case is a mess. There is only so much the criminal justice system can do with domestic violence victims that want to continue to have relationships with their assailants. The victim is an adult and, at some point, has to be held responsible for her own decisions (it seems the family court did exactly that).
It is notable that nobody said who approached who in the parking lot. That makes me think the victim initiated the contact. The defendant should never have gone out there knowing she had just left (so the judge was justified in revoking bond), but it does seem the contact was mutual. It is also very clear that she was already leaving, so him following her out was not the cause of her not testifying. Debbie asserted that the prior contact between them was the reason, but offered nothing to substantiate that. This doesn't seem to be a case of witness intimidation. It is simply a victim that doesn't want to pursue charges.
The judge clearly suspects that all the charges in all the cases will end up being dropped because the victim won't cooperate, which is why he was reluctant to revoke bond (but ended up doing so because it makes a mockery of the court orders if there are no consequences to violating them). He's probably right. This case is probably going nowhere.
I am happy there's a person in this world I agree with and is willing to explain the situation correctly.
I've written paragraphs before and people pick it apart.
Normally, it had nothing to do with the exact situation!
I agree!
hopefully we will get to see how its resolved at the end of the month. im betting that gar bage will spend his whole time in jail trying to figure out how he can still contact the victim
‘I’m just trying to stay out of jail’. By doing every possible things to go to jail? What a creep. He never got it, doesn’t get it, and surely never will.
Did he just say "I want to be one of those couples who looks back 50 years from now" ? OMG
The guy is knowingly breaking the protective order he should be locked up this bs he won't learn he thinks this not serious he's going to harass her there only one way to make him understand
Judge Middleton is extremely nice and he is typically a good judge, but when a victim’s physical and psychological safety is concerned, his tendency to believe things that defendants like this say in court is very dangerous. I have watched him “deal” with this defendant over a year now, and Middleton, in my opinion, has consistently endangered the victim by mollycoddling this defendant. He said at the beginning that the victim has been “hot and cold”. If he truly understood anything about abusive relationships and narcissistic behavior, he would understand the fear that victims have and the reason why they tend to refuse to participate in the legal system. He has truly failed this woman, and I hope he learns a little something about abusers before a victim truly gets hurt. Sorry to say this, but he has been way too lenient in this case.
The victim has to be willing to speak in court. Why yes people in abusive relationships can be manipulated not to speak but as we found out in the Heard/Depp trial the victim is not always the victim.
@@jeffnorris8848 The victim has spoken in this case, and testified, but has been unwilling to participate at certain times as the defendant has been harassing her off and on for at least the last year. As I mentioned, I’ve been watching this case for a while now. 😉
@@kimstelly9480 Testified???? its a prelim hearing so where is her sworn testimony in this case. If you have a link to her sworn testimony provide it.
I suspect you are confusing other cases that this crazy couple have been involved in.
@@jeffnorris8848 This is a victim he has repeatedly victimized. Not interested in educating, not confused, just stating my opinion on the previous year of appearances with this defendant. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@kimstelly9480 maybe , she seems to continue to let him into her life. I believe the judge mentioned that she let him stay at her house even though she had a TPO against him. I notice you did not mention her previous testimony in this case as you can not find the evidence to support your opinion. Perhaps you realized that she had not testified as the prelim had been adjourned for various reasons.
This Victim has lost custody of her child likely because she continues to have contact with this NUTJOB.
wow...u can sure tell that officer got all c's in high school...
Well, defective Hewitt is certainly more subdued in this hearing than he was in his last, when he was escorted out of the courtroom screaming at the judge & his stalking victim that he would NEVER leave her alone.
This man is one of the most narcissistic chugs to ever set foot in a courtroom - and ain’t that saying something? He needs to be locked away for a few years.
We don't feed and shelter rabid dogs...
Is that hearing on this channel, when and was that judge Middleton too? I would really like to see that, I went back for a while but maybe I didn't go back far enough... If you would be so kind as to point me in the right direction I would seriously appreciate that 😇
This guy is a nutcase and should be locked up.
Do judges not understand how difficult it is for woman to stand up in court against these men? She did not get mad and left, she got scared and left.
I think his point is that it sounded like she was leaving before the contact. I understand that the eye contact would be plenty but can also understand that hearing about them having a confrontation in the parking lot sounds like she was on the way out prior to contact
She left because shewas mad they took her parental rights away. They took them away because she kept fuc%ing with this loser and not putting her child and her own safety first. This punk hasbeen locked up for huge amounts of time andshe has done nothing to get away from him. She welcomes him back into her everytime. Domestic violence education and resources have been out there for decades. At some point you have to stand up and say "no more" no matter how scared you are.
it the judges fault she is a coward ?
Sounds like he's a frequent flyer at the psych hospital where he probably beats up the staff while he's there and gets there by threatening harm to himself or others. Just a guess.....
The first and reason I’ve got hooked on court cases was because of Judge Middleton and Prosecutor Debra Davis when she caught a dude in the house of the victim! Wondering if this is the same yahoo and prosecutors dropped the ball? It is not. Just watched inside addition 3/21 his name was Colby or Cody Harris.
When judge told officer he should’ve reviewed his report before testimony, thought to myself right before judge mentioned. One night not retain dates but retain after reviewing about the phone call.
Why did the judge need so much time, deep thought, and testimony to come to that decision? He blatantly and repeatedly defied his bond conditions and vowed to continue to do so. That should have been all the information he needed.
Did Deb say her rights were terminated to her child? I played it back 50 times and I think that’s what she said…how sad
Wow. Just imagine losing your poor, innocent child because you couldn’t stay away from his abusive father. Judge was right “that’s about as sad as it gets” I know the system is jacked up, but how could both of them not see what was at stake?!
@anythingforselenas806 They both lost parental rights.
@@teaburgyeah I made that comment before watching til the end. They both knew what was at stake and it sounds like neither one of them took it serious…he’s still trying to talk about reconciliation even after that! 🫣
Very well said. I did a lot of work in juvenile court and all I can say is jump thru the hoops, do what you’re supposed to do, put the child first. These two don’t deserve this baby. Sadly, there are so many kids in such situations.😢
@@anythingforselenas806I’m sure there was much more to it than that. I doubt very seriously it was all because of the father
Because a lot of us live in a world where we believe The right thing will happen. But instead we live in a world where police, prosecutors and judges have the power to do as they will to you and your family. Don't forget what happened in New York seven children taken from their mother because she didn't trust public schools and wanted to homeschool them. We're losing our rights everyday and people coming on being cheerleaders about it or the real problem. If Debbie Davis didn't get so much UA-cam stardom from these cases she wouldn't do them.
I know he wasn’t happy about sending him to jail, but that is precisely where he needed to go right then. He won’t follow directions, something even little kids are taught to do, and basically said he wasn’t going to. I’d be willing to bet he’s going to follow the rules in jail, though!
I love Judge Middleton. Thank you for sharing, I love your videos👍
10:00 : “…and here…we are . . . “
Sometimes judges must just want to hit their own heads with their gavel! What can be done with a completely unrepentant repeat offender who announces that he’ll just try to reoffend??
Way to go Judge you are awesome Judge
If his rights have been severed he would not be able to see his son.
He ignored every personal protection and no contact order that was issued against him and he even stated that no matter how many orders were made by the court that he WOULD continue to see her and then he is surprised that the judge had him locked up. I can understand that it would be sort of confusing for him because she was sending mixed signals but where he made his mistake was in thinking that because SHE possibly didn't mean it when she told him to stay away, the Court certainly DID mean it. If the only way to keep him away from her is to lock him up then so be it!
Cop can’t remember anything without his notes.
Prosecutor isn’t good at setting a foundation or leading her own witness.
Defense basically says, it is what it is judge but can he get another slap on the wrist please.
I’m a bit surprised that the state's 1st witness, the police officer, should have had his notes for clarification.
Judge def called him out for it too
Its not unusual. Do you remember every interaction you had in the last 90 days? Without writing notes or reports to refer back to its highly unlikely any officer would remember everything they could be called to testify about. What I would like to see though is that instead of them testifying they just play the bodycam and then fill in the blanks.
I am not surprised at all. It is common practice to have reports and notes handy.
It's allowed to ensure the officer doesn't lie or state anything to make them end up on the Brady List.
However, many judges want a prepared witness, especially law enforcement witnesses.
If a report is submitted as evidence and is admitted, it can we used.
However, it's part of the job to know and enforce the laws.
The officer must be able to speak factually based off their memory as a witness.
An unprepared officer is their own worst enemy!
This man caused his child to lose both his parents because he refuses to leave the child’s mother alone!
I felt when the judge said the officer should have reviewed the report before coming to testify. Ouch. Inflict Critical Damage
I love judge MIddleton. But I don't understand his hesitance to throw this pos in jail.
It is true that his victim has the all too familiar problems about giving evidence, but that problem is quite well understood by courts and the legal system these days.
She left to obstruct the case.
Unfortunately, Debra Davis was fired from the Prosecutor's Office because of this case. She has made statements defending her position. Ms. Davis is a great attorney, and the People will be the ones that suffer in the end. 😢
Defendant trying to sweet talk the judge was cringeworthy.
Agreed with you, he should of thought about all this, they both should have BEFORE it got out of hand and they lost custody. What about what the kid wants? ok, he is four, do you think its going to be confusing for him seeing this guy again before he is adopted?