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Excellent adventure so what if you didn't find what your looking for, you had fun doing it, now you mentioned it was from a film shot 30 years before,? .. did you find out which film as it could be a gem, maybe it wasn't the one you were looking for but maybe it's it's own special treasure. Could you not get any other information?
The doors on the truck have square corners. Not round like the cab that's down there. The wheel is a rally wheel from a dodge or Plymouth duster, dart or demon and could be a spare from the car but not likely as a spare would likely be a regular wheel and not a Rallye wheel. The Peterbilt can and hood were made from aluminum and won't be rusty if found.
Exactly, I have the same opinion. And after so many years, another's cars and trucks may have the same destination.... buried in that cliff. At the local transit police office, maybe some records about traffic crashes could be found?
Yep, totaly agree, the truck does not have a rear window either, this cab do. Even the shape of the cab is wrong, the truck cab altought with rounded edge is quite square, not bulbeuse like that. Finaly the cab is way to small. A truck cab is much biger.
That was fun to watch. As a mopar guy, they def wouldn’t stuff a rally wheel on a four door valiant behind a hubcap, but it would definitely be on a roadrunner.
Hard to say, not a mopar but the original owner of my El Camino covered up the factory body colored rally wheels with metal chrome spoked hubcaps. Some times people didnt like the sporty look and would throw hubcaps on even if we think its weird to do.
The Mopar rally wheel looks like a big bolt wheel. I think the Plymouth Valiant was still a small bolt pattern in 1971. It wasn't until front disc brakes became standard equipment that the Plymouth Valiant went to the larger bolt pattern.
The truck cab you found appears to be an early Chevy (47-55) pickup. Most likely, it was simply pushed over the edge when it was deemed worn out. Remember, these were just old vehicles and weren't worth anything. I can say from many years of hiking - it's pretty common to find old cars of that era at the bottom of sharp turns from a road above. There was no recovery effort.
That’s a Chrysler rally wheel, fairly pricey original wheel that would’ve possibly came on an R/T model or other special edition Chrysler products and Daisy’s Road Runner (which at that time was a 71/72 Satellite with the wrong year Roadrunner stripe) had chrome wagon wheels by the time that episode came out. But a possibility that it could’ve been in her trunk as a spare but I doubt the stunt crew would’ve left anything in it. The valiant in duel was a 4 door, steel wheels, with hub cabs, an extremely unlikely candidate for a rally wheel to have been in the trunk or on the car. But I love the passion for the exploration!!
Watching this video and the previous one brings a smile to my face - I went to the same levels in hunting down filming locations and the such for the 1996 movie Twister. Thankfully, the crew and managers I found that worked the production were more than helpful - they were honestly amazed someone was asking them about it! Scouring archived maps, asking locals, and spending who-knows how many hours squinting at screenshots trying to hunt down stuff... I spent 3 months trying to locate a filming location that was only in the movie for two seconds - but I found it! Watching this makes me wish that it was possible to film the endeavor I undertook - but it's nice to see there's others out there with passion like me for finding these type of things. Plus, as a fellow collector of 70s/80s audio and entertainment equipment - you've got a new subscriber.
4:17 That's a Mopar "D slot" wheel. Not stock for a Valiant, but definitely could have been thrown on there when outfitting the vehicle for stunt driving
I cannot believe the coincidence of this video. I was just having a random thought back to a time in high school when our psych teacher was explaining memories and used her personal example of how she would recall Dennis Hopper's name in the movie Duel. At the time I was surprised to hear that because I used the exact same process to recall the exact same person's name from the exact same film. Not two minutes after having this thought pop into my head, twenty years after the fact, I decide to check out my youtube feed just to see this video...
@@craigpimlott204 Indeed you are correct. I realized my mistake right after I posted it lol. My initial sentiment still stands though - I was thoughly surprised to see this in my feed mere minutes after thinking of that. I was even thinking about how they had to go out and find a truck suitable to play the part and was considering it likely had long rusted away since the filming of that movie.
I was gonna say hopper? Lol it was dennis weaver! But the same for me almost, i just randomly thought of this movie and was watching clips of it and this came up
Just found your channel today. I was born in 84 so Duel was 13 years old by that time. It was the early 2000s or maybe 1999 I was in HMV in Dublin a CD and DVD store. And my hobby was DVD hunting old Dvds from the 60s 70s 80s. And 28 30 years after it was made. There was the TV movie on the shelf for I think I paid 7 or 8 quid for it. Watched it and loved it. And now its 2023 and it is 50 years old!! Thanks for the video I subbed and will look forward to your content new and previous :D
The adventure itself was awesome, but all of the findings in the end are amazing! Much more than just "The Duel", but expanded to more history! Loved this series! Do more please!
Wow incredible 2 part video - I was glued to my screen the whole time as I’ve always wondered about the wreckage of the duel vehicles. I’d love to see a part 3 focusing on what movie the wreckage you found came from….
I absolutely love your videos on finding filming locations. The next time you're in England, you should try to find the location of the truck that fell off the cliff at the quarry (in West Sussex) in the movie "Hell Drivers".
I doubt anything would remain at the crash site, as it was a working quarry and cement works up until 1991 and was further developed and expanded in the years after Hell Drivers was filmed and is now owned by The Dudman Group. As for the other quarry site, there seems to be some confusion due to lack of finding a Warren Hill Quarry in Sussex, although Truleigh Hil exists above Upper Beeding, but I know part of the Golding Barn 4x4 centre (now only known as Golding Barn Raceway), had a disused quarry as part of the site, which was regarded as the hardest/most damaging, as my dad's Range Rover was the family car, we never went into the quarry, so not 100% sure of it's exact location in relation to the main part of the site (and again, I'm going back to late 1980s/early 1990s, s memory is a bit hazy, but while there is a disused chalk quarry on Truleigh Hill, which is accessible from the Golding Barn site, but I do remember it was a bit o a drive from the main site to the quarry. The Golding Barn Industrial Estate was established in the 1980s from farm buildings, although, this site may be partially built on a former quarry.
@@asp383 You're probably right to say that nothing remains on site, but then again you never know. IMDB says that they used the disused site on Steyning Road, Upper Beeding, to film the crash scene, so maybe there's still a chance. 🤔
Duel is one of my favorite older movies. I quite enjoyed it, back in the day, and still occasionally watch it. Thanks so much, for the two videos and your hard work. I really enjoyed this!
Hahahah what an adventure: setting out for the Duel truck, thinking you found it, finding a cabin that differs from the truck, but ultimately finding a rim that either belonged to David Mann's car or Daisy Duke's car, wow! To be honest, touching Daisy Duke's hubcaps trumps finding the Duel truck, but only marginally 😉 Well done sir!
I wish you'd finished that episode with a short rendition of "The Good Ole Boys" it would have summed up the two of you extremely well. Yes, Daisy Duke was a compelling viewing pleasure in my days of growing up. I only really ever watched that programme for her appearances. I have no idea what went on in the rest of the programme. I was a very focused child. LOL. A great adventure Perifractic, you both did very well indeed. 👏 Offshoots of this adventure would be a new horror film based on the resurrection of the demonic driver of Duel. A very impressive Pimp My Ride follow-up, or an episode of Scrap Yard challenge. "KITTesla and the Rise of the Demon Driver" sounds like a good title for a film. Keep the nostalgia coming.
They definitely winched the vehicles back up the cliff because on the first take the car went over but the truck got caught on the edge, which is why on the screen footage the Valiant is clearly already burnt out before it goes over. Stands to reason there must be some parts from the car and truck still there as you say, but likely it’s all buried now under 50 years of sand or under the vehicles that have been dumped there since. About 15 years back a guy did a video showing a rusty pickup cab and claiming that was the Peterbilt, back then I tried to research what had happened to the Duel vehicles and parts and everyone I spoke to said they had been removed immediately after filming. I bet someone took photos at the time… 🙂
I heard that story about the car too but couldn't corroborate it and it's strange it's not mentioned in the making of book which discusses the stunt driver story about only having one take
@@CycolacFan Nope, I only ever read it in online comments, but my standard for presenting info via the channel has to be higher than that. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just can't confirm it did from any first hand source.
@@RetroRecipes I’ll try to find my source for it, if not DVD commentary or a making of documentary then it must have been a book or magazine article. But I distinctly remember them saying the car went over on fire and the truck got caught on the edge because once the stuntman jumped from the truck it slowed right down. I think perhaps they wanted time for the wind to close the driver’s door. That’s why the door is still open as you pointed out, because he jumped at the last possible second in order to keep the speed up. Why they didn’t use one of their other Valiants I don’t know, maybe only one had the heavy front end damage required.
48.11% of me was thinking, how could they just leave all that stuff there in 1971, and 51.89% of me was thinking, amazing, they left stuff there for us to see 50+ years later! Some great finds in that hallowed ground.
If it hasn't already been addressed in the comments: great detective work and good catch as it being a Mopar Rallye wheel. However, there were 2 different bolt pattern sizes 1) (nick named Baby bolt pattern) (5x4") and 2) large bolt pattern (5x4.5"). So, just for clarity the Rallye wheel was first used in 1970 so it is relative here. The small bolt pattern was only used on A-bodies (Dodge Darts, Demons, and Plymouth Valiants, Dusters, and Scamps etc..) Also relevant here. Big bolt pattern was was used on the others such as B-Bodies (dodge Coronet, Plymouth Satellites, Road Runners etc) and C-bodies ( Dodge Polaras, Plymouth Furys, and Chrysler Imperials etc) However, with all that said being an A-body aficionado can I tell just by looking? The answer is yes, you have a Big bolt pattern Rallye that would be more likely off Daisy Dukes '72 Road Runner if that actually happened there. (another quick note: Road Runners are performance version based on the satellite) - btw.. no mention of what movie that cab truck could of been a wreckage of years prior?
How funny would it have been if he didn't find the dual truck, but stumbled upon an original KITT that he never realised went over a cliff in one of the episodes. Be interested to know what it is they did find though.
Check the bolt pattern on that wheel. Pre ‘73 A bodies had a 5x4” bolt pattern. That rallye wheel you found looks like a 5x4.5 bolt pattern. The Duel car wore hubcaps, which means it had black steelies under them.
while that would generally be true, some times hubcaps would have been put over more desireable wheels by the owner of said vehicle. I found out my El camino still sports the body colored factory rally wheels but the original owner hid them away behind metal chromed spoked hubcaps that he put on when he bought the car he didnt like the rally wheels.
That is one awesome video yall made. I totally respect your hard work and effort trying to locate the wreakage. When you showed the cab the first clue I noticed is the wipers were mounted at the top of the windshield. The Duel truck wipers were mounted at the bottom. Didn't see the holes for the cab clearance lites or air horn
It's not even the right cab the roof on the one that they found is incredibly rounded but the roof on the Dual truck which was a Peterbilt was almost completely flat
@yannisgouras4482 yes sir, didn't catch that one. I was looking for the cab light screw holes and the hole for the air horn. When I seen the wipers up top that was a dead giveaway
@harrisonashley1631 well I thought that big box in the back window was some kinda A/C unit also but on a documentary I watched they said they had to install a box to hold the camera for the inside veiws of the cab. I imagine they were similating a A/C or swamp cooler for effects
I'm 38 and Duel is one of my all time favourites. Thanks for going out having a look, this is something I would try lol new subscriber here, Midlands UK 👍
Here's something people should know about the movie industry. It is required that all movies clean up after themselves. It's also required that all production companies repair any damages they have made. One thing I can say is that some movies have paid for road improvements or helped develop a community which you'd think wouldn't happen. Some stuff will stay, but the majority has to be cleaned up.
on the mopar rallye wheel: that wheel you found at the cliff, looks like its a large bolt pattern(5x4.5"). the a body mopars like the valiant from the movie, had a smaller bolt pattern(5x4"). that wheel found at the cliff is from a b or e body. daisy dukes roadrunner could have had wheels like that, with the bolt pattern.
The wheel is a Chrysler "Rally" wheel. If it was 5 lug on 4" (center-on-center), it's from a '70-'72 A- body. Dart, Demon, Duster, Scamp or Valiant...but it was an option. The movie car has the standard wheels, with hubcaps and they are 4.5" wide. Rally wheels are 5.5" wide
The Plymouth rally wheel looks similar between the A body and the B body, but there is a telling difference. The A body has a 5 on 4 inch bolt pattern, whereas the B body has a 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern. I think that wheel is a 5 on 4 1/2" pattern. You could probably match up photos of both bolt patterns of that wheel to the one you found to determine if it fits a 1969 A body.
Right, plus it might be wider than an A body wheel. Looks like it's a deeper dish wheel. But how they thought there was ANY chance the cab was the right one is crazy. It's a split-window, but that's where the similarities end. I figured that out before they did, but these aren't car guys, obviously.
Wow so it comes down to PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter) - Not PCB (Printed Circuit boards or Poly Chlorinated BiPhenols) take your pick! TLA Joke! (Three letter Acronym) HOABL
I found it exciting to watch the adventure of tracing down the exact location where the Plymouth and the Truck went over and landed. Those parts found may or may not be from the movie. How ironic that Daisy Duke's yellow car went over the same area? Tough hike, glad I wasn't on it. Thanks for the entertainment.
Just remember as you are tumbling down the hill to yell "As you Wish". BTW that cab is from a 1947 Dodge Pickup. It had a split screen with the wipers above the windshield and matches the curves seen including the rear window.
Looks good guys, well done on the search and what you found in any case. There is as you probably know a guy in the States that has a almost perfect copy of the Duel truck, it is on YT somewhere and looks absolutely amazing! Keep up the good and most interesting work!
While I did want to believe it was the truck from duel, the alignment of the cab seemed a little bit too convenient, unless there were other endings planned and they needed the cab in a certain postion for certain shots and so planted a second truck. The adventure was still worth it, as you'd never have been content with the answers from the production crew without going there yourself. Part of me thinks they give those responses to stop the treasure hunters pestering the land owners.
Cab looks way too small for a tractor truck cab it looks more like a passenger truck cab of the same time period. If it is the same cab its possible over time everything got washed down and repositioned.
My grandparents had a ranch in Carlyle Canyon near Thousand Oaks near where they filmed most of the dukes of hazard episodes. I got to go and watch a couple episodes filmed out there. They were very careful to clean up and cart out anything that couldn’t be fixed or refilmed. A lot of films and TV shows were done out there, MASH, the Bionic Man, a bunch of police movies from the 70s and 80s. If that’s where you were looking, there is a good chance you have something from one of the shows.
The primary Duke's set was on Placerita Canyon in Santa Clarita. It's called The Golden Oak Ranch now. But they could have filmed some episodes in Thousand Oaks as well.
Unfortunately that is not the Dual Peterbilt 281. It looks like an old Chevy cab or maybe a Dodge cab that is the wrong back window and doors for to be a Peterbuilt.
The spare wheel in a Valiant is the same as the four main wheels. I could snap pictures for you and show you if you like. My Valiant has the exact same hubcaps and wheels that would have been on that Valiant in Duel.
Great Video! I love the chemistry between you two. This is just a thought -- and I'm sure you've probably already considered it -- but what about just getting close to the area and flying a drone down in there just to see what's there? It would probably spare you from some hiking and spare your buddy's bum. :)
You might want to check the cliff in what was formerly the Indian Dunes motorcycle park near the junction of Hwy 126 and I-5. I believe that is where the Daisy Duke car went off. It was a popular filming location and sadly where Vic Morrow and two child actors perished. There were scenes from Uncommon Valor filmed there. Indian Dunes was also the regular filming location for Black Sheep Squadron aka Baa Baa Black Sheep.
Amazing video, The adventure and suspense to try to find it, I wouldn't see this as a disappointment, At least you were at the location of the film, some of us can't just fly over there. So I would like to say a big thank you for involving us poor U.K. 80's kids, you are living our dreams, and owning them. Keep up the fantastic work. I felt like I was there with you. Thank You..
Good video fellas! Brings back childhood memories when I first watched that suspenseful flick. If you’re going to go on such hikes you need to be better prepared: Proper shoes, gloves, good quality hiking stick to help you keep your footing and NOT fall on your ass, and provisions for an overnight should an injury prevent your return. It may have been hot that day but I guarantee the night time temps are brutal.
Very cool video. When you were sitting in the cab of the truck, unless I'm mistaken, it appeared the driver's door was closed and intact. As you remember, the driver's door was left open (so the stuntman could jump out) as the truck went over the cliff. Given this, I believe the door would be heavily damaged and perhaos partially ripped from its hinge during the descent into the canyon.
Might have helped if you looked at the date stamp on the wheel. Also I owned a valiant with hub caps and the steelies were not ralley wheels. Those had the center caps and trim rings like the e-body for daisy duke. It looks very narrow though. Would have helped if you looked at the size stamped in it. It had no tyre, it was right there to look at😂
Too good to be true, but was a really excellent and interesting video. Enjoyed it immensely. BTW the photo at 15.13 is from an Australian Mopar car meet. The car in the background is the Australian 1967-68 Chrysler Valiant. I owned one back in the late 80's. The styling from the middle backwards was unique to Australia, also came with a 160bhp version of the trusty slant six. The car in the movie is the same year I believe, 1967 or so.
Gary Lofton was the stunt driver/coordinator who was the unseen driver of the menacing 18 wheeler. He is also credited for automotive stunts im the classic 1962 all srar comedy "Its A. Mad Mad Mad Mad World, just watch the opening credits and you'll see. A bit of trivia: The elderly couple in the car that David. Mann flags down for help is the same couple seen in the helicopter together in Close Encounters Of The Third Kind Both movies were directed by Steven Spielberg
I sure hope i havent been drinking soda out of recycled iron as i dont want tetunas . Perhaps we could be driving cars with its recycled iron .Aluminum is the metal preffered for cans .This was a great deal of fun watching this .
The wheeel you found was a big bolt pattern rally wheel like would be on daisy dukes roadrunner. Variants had small bolt pattern The dog dish hub caps on an A body MOPAR won’t go over a rally wheel
The wheel you found is a Mopar Rally wheel. If it came from Daisey's Road Runner the bolt pattern would have a 4 1/2". If the wheel came from Weaver's car it would have the Mopar "small bolt pattern" which is 4" and would be for a 14" tire.
If that MoPar Rallye wheel is a 14" it is off of an A-body, which the Valiant is. It could have been a spare but certainly was never on the car from the factory. Now if it's a 15", then it is a B or E-Body wheel. The Road Runner is a B-Body.
One of my most favourite car films. From the age of 8/9 when I first the film for the first time I was hooked. I’m 56 now and I still watch it. I’ve got the film on VHS, and DVD special edition .
That Plymouth wheel is a rally wheel. The 71 Valiant from Duel had standard plain steel wheels. That's not Dennis Weaver's wheel, but it could definitely be Daisy Duke's wheel, from the Roadrunner...
Daisy's roadrunner didn't wear rally wheels... There are photos of the cast standing next to the roadrunner after the cliff scene. One in particular with Sonny Shroyer looking through the window of the wrecked remains.
Not sure if you're my hero or nuts for that journey 😅. Either way I admire your persistence. Obviously they're just trying to get rid of you because they don't want to be bothered... Jerks 😡. That Valiant had little baby narrow wheels. I'm thinking that wheel could've been from Daisy's car. Give it some time. Now that these two part videos are out there, someone will eventually contact you and give you a straight story on everything. I've seen this with KR Historians channel. Thumbs up to all of your hard work and dedication! 👍
I didint know people were still interested in the movie duel. And then I saw the 4k and blu-ray sales on different DVD/Blu-ray boutiques. People love the movie.
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99% of cars from that year range had five-bolt wheels. I used to work on cars and the full-size cars all had five lugs.
@@LordOrwell And 10 outer hole designs with distinct bevelling on one edge?
Excellent adventure so what if you didn't find what your looking for, you had fun doing it, now you mentioned it was from a film shot 30 years before,? .. did you find out which film as it could be a gem, maybe it wasn't the one you were looking for but maybe it's it's own special treasure. Could you not get any other information?
@@LordOrwell looks like that rusty speed wagon roof been blasted with shot gun pellets at some point. might be a clue to the film it was in ?
The wheel is from a mid 30s Plymouth and some dodge plymouth trucks
The doors on the truck have square corners. Not round like the cab that's down there. The wheel is a rally wheel from a dodge or Plymouth duster, dart or demon and could be a spare from the car but not likely as a spare would likely be a regular wheel and not a Rallye wheel. The Peterbilt can and hood were made from aluminum and won't be rusty if found.
Exactly, I have the same opinion. And after so many years, another's cars and trucks may have the same destination.... buried in that cliff. At the local transit police office, maybe some records about traffic crashes could be found?
Yep, totaly agree, the truck does not have a rear window either, this cab do. Even the shape of the cab is wrong, the truck cab altought with rounded edge is quite square, not bulbeuse like that. Finaly the cab is way to small. A truck cab is much biger.
Did you guy even watched the video until the end?
@RKMaxmaj0r sometimes happens. The desire to comment is great hahaha
I believe the truck did have a rear window, but it was covered by a fake AC unit to house a camera inside the cab
That was fun to watch. As a mopar guy, they def wouldn’t stuff a rally wheel on a four door valiant behind a hubcap, but it would definitely be on a roadrunner.
Hard to say, not a mopar but the original owner of my El Camino covered up the factory body colored rally wheels with metal chrome spoked hubcaps. Some times people didnt like the sporty look and would throw hubcaps on even if we think its weird to do.
The Mopar rally wheel looks like a big bolt wheel. I think the Plymouth Valiant was still a small bolt pattern in 1971.
It wasn't until front disc brakes became standard equipment that the Plymouth Valiant went to the larger bolt pattern.
The truck cab you found appears to be an early Chevy (47-55) pickup. Most likely, it was simply pushed over the edge when it was deemed worn out. Remember, these were just old vehicles and weren't worth anything. I can say from many years of hiking - it's pretty common to find old cars of that era at the bottom of sharp turns from a road above. There was no recovery effort.
It seems to be a common filming area though, so regardless of reason it could still be from a movie/tv show.
dashboard does not match with Chevy
@@manaccept145 The back window doesn't match either, well, all of it doesn't match because it isn't a chevy from that year.
@@ianhoyt2638 I’m guessing it’s a B model Mack.
I was guessing B series Mack as well.
That’s a Chrysler rally wheel, fairly pricey original wheel that would’ve possibly came on an R/T model or other special edition Chrysler products and Daisy’s Road Runner (which at that time was a 71/72 Satellite with the wrong year Roadrunner stripe) had chrome wagon wheels by the time that episode came out. But a possibility that it could’ve been in her trunk as a spare but I doubt the stunt crew would’ve left anything in it. The valiant in duel was a 4 door, steel wheels, with hub cabs, an extremely unlikely candidate for a rally wheel to have been in the trunk or on the car.
But I love the passion for the exploration!!
yep, i own3 valiants and they came with stock black wheels.
Watching this video and the previous one brings a smile to my face - I went to the same levels in hunting down filming locations and the such for the 1996 movie Twister. Thankfully, the crew and managers I found that worked the production were more than helpful - they were honestly amazed someone was asking them about it! Scouring archived maps, asking locals, and spending who-knows how many hours squinting at screenshots trying to hunt down stuff... I spent 3 months trying to locate a filming location that was only in the movie for two seconds - but I found it!
Watching this makes me wish that it was possible to film the endeavor I undertook - but it's nice to see there's others out there with passion like me for finding these type of things. Plus, as a fellow collector of 70s/80s audio and entertainment equipment - you've got a new subscriber.
Regardless of the outcome of the search, those videos are some of the most entertaining I've seen on UA-cam. Good job!
I watched Duel when I was about 5 with my family. It scared the absolute crap out of me and I haven't watched it since. That was 35 years ago!
4:17 That's a Mopar "D slot" wheel. Not stock for a Valiant, but definitely could have been thrown on there when outfitting the vehicle for stunt driving
I cannot believe the coincidence of this video. I was just having a random thought back to a time in high school when our psych teacher was explaining memories and used her personal example of how she would recall Dennis Hopper's name in the movie Duel. At the time I was surprised to hear that because I used the exact same process to recall the exact same person's name from the exact same film. Not two minutes after having this thought pop into my head, twenty years after the fact, I decide to check out my youtube feed just to see this video...
Dunno why I said hopper when I meant Weaver. Guess the trick doesn't work as well for me these days ;)
Dennis weaver was in duel .Dennis hopper was in easy rider👍
@@craigpimlott204 Indeed you are correct. I realized my mistake right after I posted it lol. My initial sentiment still stands though - I was thoughly surprised to see this in my feed mere minutes after thinking of that. I was even thinking about how they had to go out and find a truck suitable to play the part and was considering it likely had long rusted away since the filming of that movie.
@@jamesclark2663it was already rusting away in the movie so wouldn't have taken long lol
I was gonna say hopper? Lol it was dennis weaver! But the same for me almost, i just randomly thought of this movie and was watching clips of it and this came up
I believe the cab you found belonged to a B model Mack truck. Good adventure anyhow!
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My whole family watched this movie when it was on that night. We were glued to the TV that night.
Just found your channel today. I was born in 84 so Duel was 13 years old by that time. It was the early 2000s or maybe 1999 I was in HMV in Dublin a CD and DVD store. And my hobby was DVD hunting old Dvds from the 60s 70s 80s. And 28 30 years after it was made. There was the TV movie on the shelf for I think I paid 7 or 8 quid for it. Watched it and loved it. And now its 2023 and it is 50 years old!! Thanks for the video I subbed and will look forward to your content new and previous :D
The adventure itself was awesome, but all of the findings in the end are amazing! Much more than just "The Duel", but expanded to more history! Loved this series! Do more please!
More already filmed and in the pipeline!
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Wow incredible 2 part video - I was glued to my screen the whole time as I’ve always wondered about the wreckage of the duel vehicles.
I’d love to see a part 3 focusing on what movie the wreckage you found came from….
I absolutely love your videos on finding filming locations. The next time you're in England, you should try to find the location of the truck that fell off the cliff at the quarry (in West Sussex) in the movie "Hell Drivers".
I doubt anything would remain at the crash site, as it was a working quarry and cement works up until 1991 and was further developed and expanded in the years after Hell Drivers was filmed and is now owned by The Dudman Group.
As for the other quarry site, there seems to be some confusion due to lack of finding a Warren Hill Quarry in Sussex, although Truleigh Hil exists above Upper Beeding, but I know part of the Golding Barn 4x4 centre (now only known as Golding Barn Raceway), had a disused quarry as part of the site, which was regarded as the hardest/most damaging, as my dad's Range Rover was the family car, we never went into the quarry, so not 100% sure of it's exact location in relation to the main part of the site (and again, I'm going back to late 1980s/early 1990s, s memory is a bit hazy, but while there is a disused chalk quarry on Truleigh Hill, which is accessible from the Golding Barn site, but I do remember it was a bit o a drive from the main site to the quarry. The Golding Barn Industrial Estate was established in the 1980s from farm buildings, although, this site may be partially built on a former quarry.
@@asp383 You're probably right to say that nothing remains on site, but then again you never know. IMDB says that they used the disused site on Steyning Road, Upper Beeding, to film the crash scene, so maybe there's still a chance. 🤔
I love that film. It's insane.
Wonder what happened to the bus that went over the cliff (and Cliff) at the end of 'The Young Ones'.
@@KingSoftwareWizard Now that's a great question! 🤔
Duel is one of my favorite older movies. I quite enjoyed it, back in the day, and still occasionally watch it. Thanks so much, for the two videos and your hard work. I really enjoyed this!
Hahahah what an adventure: setting out for the Duel truck, thinking you found it, finding a cabin that differs from the truck, but ultimately finding a rim that either belonged to David Mann's car or Daisy Duke's car, wow! To be honest, touching Daisy Duke's hubcaps trumps finding the Duel truck, but only marginally 😉 Well done sir!
Daisy had two Road Runners. The 71 that went over the cliff had chrome aftermarket wheels. The 73 had factory Magnum 500s.
I wish you'd finished that episode with a short rendition of "The Good Ole Boys" it would have summed up the two of you extremely well. Yes, Daisy Duke was a compelling viewing pleasure in my days of growing up. I only really ever watched that programme for her appearances. I have no idea what went on in the rest of the programme. I was a very focused child. LOL.
A great adventure Perifractic, you both did very well indeed. 👏
Offshoots of this adventure would be a new horror film based on the resurrection of the demonic driver of Duel. A very impressive Pimp My Ride follow-up, or an episode of Scrap Yard challenge.
"KITTesla and the Rise of the Demon Driver" sounds like a good title for a film.
Keep the nostalgia coming.
They definitely winched the vehicles back up the cliff because on the first take the car went over but the truck got caught on the edge, which is why on the screen footage the Valiant is clearly already burnt out before it goes over. Stands to reason there must be some parts from the car and truck still there as you say, but likely it’s all buried now under 50 years of sand or under the vehicles that have been dumped there since.
About 15 years back a guy did a video showing a rusty pickup cab and claiming that was the Peterbilt, back then I tried to research what had happened to the Duel vehicles and parts and everyone I spoke to said they had been removed immediately after filming.
I bet someone took photos at the time… 🙂
I heard that story about the car too but couldn't corroborate it and it's strange it's not mentioned in the making of book which discusses the stunt driver story about only having one take
@@RetroRecipes is it not in the book? I actually had thought that was where I’d read about it…
@@CycolacFan Nope, I only ever read it in online comments, but my standard for presenting info via the channel has to be higher than that. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just can't confirm it did from any first hand source.
@@RetroRecipes I’ll try to find my source for it, if not DVD commentary or a making of documentary then it must have been a book or magazine article. But I distinctly remember them saying the car went over on fire and the truck got caught on the edge because once the stuntman jumped from the truck it slowed right down. I think perhaps they wanted time for the wind to close the driver’s door. That’s why the door is still open as you pointed out, because he jumped at the last possible second in order to keep the speed up. Why they didn’t use one of their other Valiants I don’t know, maybe only one had the heavy front end damage required.
48.11% of me was thinking, how could they just leave all that stuff there in 1971, and 51.89% of me was thinking, amazing, they left stuff there for us to see 50+ years later! Some great finds in that hallowed ground.
If it hasn't already been addressed in the comments: great detective work and good catch as it being a Mopar Rallye wheel. However, there were 2 different bolt pattern sizes 1) (nick named Baby bolt pattern) (5x4") and 2) large bolt pattern (5x4.5"). So, just for clarity the Rallye wheel was first used in 1970 so it is relative here. The small bolt pattern was only used on A-bodies (Dodge Darts, Demons, and Plymouth Valiants, Dusters, and Scamps etc..) Also relevant here. Big bolt pattern was was used on the others such as B-Bodies (dodge Coronet, Plymouth Satellites, Road Runners etc) and C-bodies ( Dodge Polaras, Plymouth Furys, and Chrysler Imperials etc) However, with all that said being an A-body aficionado can I tell just by looking? The answer is yes, you have a Big bolt pattern Rallye that would be more likely off Daisy Dukes '72 Road Runner if that actually happened there. (another quick note: Road Runners are performance version based on the satellite) - btw.. no mention of what movie that cab truck could of been a wreckage of years prior?
I cant wait to see @ViceGripGarage out here for a will it run episode.
How funny would it have been if he didn't find the dual truck, but stumbled upon an original KITT that he never realised went over a cliff in one of the episodes. Be interested to know what it is they did find though.
Check the bolt pattern on that wheel. Pre ‘73 A bodies had a 5x4” bolt pattern. That rallye wheel you found looks like a 5x4.5 bolt pattern. The Duel car wore hubcaps, which means it had black steelies under them.
while that would generally be true, some times hubcaps would have been put over more desireable wheels by the owner of said vehicle. I found out my El camino still sports the body colored factory rally wheels but the original owner hid them away behind metal chromed spoked hubcaps that he put on when he bought the car he didnt like the rally wheels.
That is one awesome video yall made. I totally respect your hard work and effort trying to locate the wreakage. When you showed the cab the first clue I noticed is the wipers were mounted at the top of the windshield. The Duel truck wipers were mounted at the bottom. Didn't see the holes for the cab clearance lites or air horn
It's not even the right cab the roof on the one that they found is incredibly rounded but the roof on the Dual truck which was a Peterbilt was almost completely flat
@yannisgouras4482 yes sir, didn't catch that one. I was looking for the cab light screw holes and the hole for the air horn. When I seen the wipers up top that was a dead giveaway
@harrisonashley1631 well I thought that big box in the back window was some kinda A/C unit also but on a documentary I watched they said they had to install a box to hold the camera for the inside veiws of the cab. I imagine they were similating a A/C or swamp cooler for effects
Top door frames are quite different too. The found wreck has very curved frames, the Peterbilt had very sharp, square ones.
It's not the discovery you expected but you still found something. It was an epic hike though :)
That was wheely a lot of fun... The cliff hanger took quite a few turns. Keep the wheels spinning! 👍
Just bought DUEL on 4K! One of my favorites! So I'm glad I saw this!! 👍👍
I needed a stiff whisky (in my head) after this video. Thank you for the rather 80s tension build
There probably wasnt a spare in the car at all as the sound rigs they mounted took up a lot of space in other scenes.
I'm 38 and Duel is one of my all time favourites. Thanks for going out having a look, this is something I would try lol new subscriber here, Midlands UK 👍
Here's something people should know about the movie industry. It is required that all movies clean up after themselves. It's also required that all production companies repair any damages they have made. One thing I can say is that some movies have paid for road improvements or helped develop a community which you'd think wouldn't happen. Some stuff will stay, but the majority has to be cleaned up.
The box on the back of the Duel cab was not for an air conditioner. It was for a film camera for in-the-cab- shots.
on the mopar rallye wheel: that wheel you found at the cliff, looks like its a large bolt pattern(5x4.5"). the a body mopars like the valiant from the movie, had a smaller bolt pattern(5x4"). that wheel found at the cliff is from a b or e body. daisy dukes roadrunner could have had wheels like that, with the bolt pattern.
Great topic. Duel is a real classic.
I was only gonna watch a couple of minutes of this but you had me completely hooked lol great video man 😊
The wheel is a Chrysler "Rally" wheel. If it was 5 lug on 4" (center-on-center), it's from a '70-'72 A- body. Dart, Demon, Duster, Scamp or Valiant...but it was an option. The movie car has the standard wheels, with hubcaps and they are 4.5" wide. Rally wheels are 5.5" wide
It's not a 5 on 4" I can tell from the photo. I've had that bolt pattern on a '71 Duster. It's a 5 on 4.5" and is a B/E-body wheel.
@@CarsandCats or '73-up A body...
Honestly, this is one of your best videos , ever !!
I watched both episodes back to back , brilliant!!
Please do more like this...
Awesome video. You now need to try and find Basil Fawlty’s 1967 Austin 1100 Countryman! 🌴
The Plymouth rally wheel looks similar between the A body and the B body, but there is a telling difference. The A body has a 5 on 4 inch bolt pattern, whereas the B body has a 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern. I think that wheel is a 5 on 4 1/2" pattern. You could probably match up photos of both bolt patterns of that wheel to the one you found to determine if it fits a 1969 A body.
Right, plus it might be wider than an A body wheel. Looks like it's a deeper dish wheel.
But how they thought there was ANY chance the cab was the right one is crazy. It's a split-window, but that's where the similarities end.
I figured that out before they did, but these aren't car guys, obviously.
Wow so it comes down to PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter) - Not PCB (Printed Circuit boards or Poly Chlorinated BiPhenols) take your pick!
TLA Joke! (Three letter Acronym)
HOABL
A body Mopar did use big bolt pattern if it was a disc brake car I know I own a 74 Plymouth duster that has disc brakesn
@@UberLummox The moment I saw the profile of that cab I knew it wasn't the Duel tractor. I thought, "Come on..."
I want to know if the cab that was found can actually be traced to a movie 30-year previous to Duel, to which the landowner alluded...
Me too!
I could tell it wasnt the same cab as soon as I saw it
yes it is an older truck, it would be nice to see the movie , I hope someone remembers it
The cab looks like its from a early 602 B model Mack truck.
I love it, guys. That hike looked treacherous, and although you didn't find the Duel truck, to find and visit the actual location was amazing...
I found it exciting to watch the adventure of tracing down the exact location where the Plymouth and the Truck went over and landed. Those parts found may or may not be from the movie. How ironic that Daisy Duke's yellow car went over the same area? Tough hike, glad I wasn't on it. Thanks for the entertainment.
Pretty cool finding that stuff! Shame it was left there in the first place though.
Just remember as you are tumbling down the hill to yell "As you Wish". BTW that cab is from a 1947 Dodge Pickup. It had a split screen with the wipers above the windshield and matches the curves seen including the rear window.
dashboard does not match
I have been waiting for episode two and yay you made it
Even though I don't like Duel (or Dukes of Hazard), this is amazing what you've done.
Looks good guys, well done on the search and what you found in any case.
There is as you probably know a guy in the States that has a almost perfect copy of the Duel truck, it is on YT somewhere and looks absolutely amazing!
Keep up the good and most interesting work!
While I did want to believe it was the truck from duel, the alignment of the cab seemed a little bit too convenient, unless there were other endings planned and they needed the cab in a certain postion for certain shots and so planted a second truck.
The adventure was still worth it, as you'd never have been content with the answers from the production crew without going there yourself. Part of me thinks they give those responses to stop the treasure hunters pestering the land owners.
Cab looks way too small for a tractor truck cab it looks more like a passenger truck cab of the same time period. If it is the same cab its possible over time everything got washed down and repositioned.
@@Milner62 The rear window was different. That's probably a GMC or Chevy 5 window cab.
The film might be The Wages of Fear, had 2 trucks in with similar cabs to what you found.
Wages of Fear was shot in the south of France. Violent Road was the American remake.
@@joelsacca3574 looks like the same trucks used in both, this could be the one.
My grandparents had a ranch in Carlyle Canyon near Thousand Oaks near where they filmed most of the dukes of hazard episodes. I got to go and watch a couple episodes filmed out there. They were very careful to clean up and cart out anything that couldn’t be fixed or refilmed. A lot of films and TV shows were done out there, MASH, the Bionic Man, a bunch of police movies from the 70s and 80s. If that’s where you were looking, there is a good chance you have something from one of the shows.
The primary Duke's set was on Placerita Canyon in Santa Clarita. It's called The Golden Oak Ranch now. But they could have filmed some episodes in Thousand Oaks as well.
Glad you found something eventually, what ever it is, it certainly looks like it's been there 50 years!! One of my favourite films of all time...
BRILLIANT BRILLIANT DOCUMENTARY REALLY LOVED THIS!! Duel one of fav films
Your tenacity and geekiness is inspiring 👍🏻
That's why it's named Mystery Mesa! : ) I've worked on films there a number of times in the last 30 years.
Unfortunately that is not the Dual Peterbilt 281. It looks like an old Chevy cab or maybe a Dodge cab that is the wrong back window and doors for to be a Peterbuilt.
The spare wheel in a Valiant is the same as the four main wheels. I could snap pictures for you and show you if you like. My Valiant has the exact same hubcaps and wheels that would have been on that Valiant in Duel.
Great Video! I love the chemistry between you two.
This is just a thought -- and I'm sure you've probably already considered it -- but what about just getting close to the area and flying a drone down in there just to see what's there? It would probably spare you from some hiking and spare your buddy's bum. :)
You might want to check the cliff in what was formerly the Indian Dunes motorcycle park near the junction of Hwy 126 and I-5. I believe that is where the Daisy Duke car went off. It was a popular filming location and sadly where Vic Morrow and two child actors perished. There were scenes from Uncommon Valor filmed there. Indian Dunes was also the regular filming location for Black Sheep Squadron aka Baa Baa Black Sheep.
According to IMDB you are correct.
Amazing video, The adventure and suspense to try to find it, I wouldn't see this as a disappointment, At least you were at the location of the film, some of us can't just fly over there. So I would like to say a big thank you for involving us poor U.K. 80's kids, you are living our dreams, and owning them. Keep up the fantastic work. I felt like I was there with you. Thank You..
I've been counting the days till episode 2!!!!
Love your channel! Fello ex pat with the same tastes living in the US 🤘🏻
BIG props for all your hard work finding the Duel clif finale location! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😊
Now part 4 is you and Dean go back and dig it out and take it home for yard art
Good video fellas! Brings back childhood memories when I first watched that suspenseful flick. If you’re going to go on such hikes you need to be better prepared: Proper shoes, gloves, good quality hiking stick to help you keep your footing and NOT fall on your ass, and provisions for an overnight should an injury prevent your return. It may have been hot that day but I guarantee the night time temps are brutal.
That's about 45 minutes I'll never get back.
thank you for sharing...excellent,and hi from south wales,uk
Hey, great video. I found part one this morning and watched them both. Love the British sense of humour. Great job guys.
Love of Australia 🇦🇺
Very cool video. When you were sitting in the cab of the truck, unless I'm mistaken, it appeared the driver's door was closed and intact. As you remember, the driver's door was left open (so the stuntman could jump out) as the truck went over the cliff. Given this, I believe the door would be heavily damaged and perhaos partially ripped from its hinge during the descent into the canyon.
Outstanding work lads. well done with a LOL as not to spoil it for anyone who hasnt watched the video yet
Might have helped if you looked at the date stamp on the wheel. Also I owned a valiant with hub caps and the steelies were not ralley wheels. Those had the center caps and trim rings like the e-body for daisy duke. It looks very narrow though. Would have helped if you looked at the size stamped in it. It had no tyre, it was right there to look at😂
Too good to be true, but was a really excellent and interesting video. Enjoyed it immensely. BTW the photo at 15.13 is from an Australian Mopar car meet. The car in the background is the Australian 1967-68 Chrysler Valiant. I owned one back in the late 80's. The styling from the middle backwards was unique to Australia, also came with a 160bhp version of the trusty slant six. The car in the movie is the same year I believe, 1967 or so.
Until I got the first season of the Dukes of Hazzard about 20 years ago, I had totally forgotten Daisy had a Roadrunner!
Had me on the part 3 was like no come on 😂😂 amazing video. Pmsl when keen Dean's sole came off his shoe 😂
Gary Lofton was the stunt driver/coordinator who was the unseen driver of the menacing 18 wheeler.
He is also credited for automotive stunts im the classic 1962 all srar comedy
"Its A. Mad Mad Mad Mad World, just watch the opening credits and you'll see.
A bit of trivia:
The elderly couple in the car that David. Mann flags down for help is the same couple seen in the helicopter together in Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
Both movies were directed by Steven Spielberg
The man's name was Carey Loftin.
I sure hope i havent been drinking soda out of recycled iron as i dont want tetunas . Perhaps we could be driving cars with its recycled iron .Aluminum is the metal preffered for cans .This was a great deal of fun watching this .
This was Epic thank for your hard work! I hope this Wonderful item of Film History is saved!
Awesome video. That cab looks like a Dodge truck cab from the post WW II era through mid fifties.
These episodes are cool. What a gem of a show. Fantastic idea for a channel & I love all the cheesy corny humor 😂
I'm from Wyoming and seeing the Wyo tag on the truck was cool...
The wheeel you found was a big bolt pattern rally wheel like would be on daisy dukes roadrunner. Variants had small bolt pattern The dog dish hub caps on an A body MOPAR won’t go over a rally wheel
The wheel you found is a Mopar Rally wheel. If it came from Daisey's Road Runner the bolt pattern would have a 4 1/2". If the wheel came from Weaver's car it would have the Mopar "small bolt pattern" which is 4" and would be for a 14" tire.
Hey 180k subs, congrats! Keep up the amazing nostalgia documentaries...!
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹
Truck cabin found : 7:00
If that MoPar Rallye wheel is a 14" it is off of an A-body, which the Valiant is. It could have been a spare but certainly was never on the car from the factory. Now if it's a 15", then it is a B or E-Body wheel. The Road Runner is a B-Body.
I love duel as a trucker that truck lives in my heart
One of my most favourite car films. From the age of 8/9 when I first the film for the first time I was hooked. I’m 56 now and I still watch it. I’ve got the film on VHS, and DVD special edition .
Kind of amazing they made 2 movies in such an unreachable place. Can't believe Spielberg hiked in the same way.
I suspect the crane took the crew down one by one, and the cameras. Much quicker to get down the cliff than hike to it.
That Plymouth wheel is a rally wheel. The 71 Valiant from Duel had standard plain steel wheels. That's not Dennis Weaver's wheel, but it could definitely be Daisy Duke's wheel, from the Roadrunner...
Great second part video, a lot of work goes into these great videos, really enjoyed it👍.
Thank you for noticing
Cab you found is from a late 30's-40's International Harvester.
Haven’t yet found any truck with the triple split rear window
Daisy's roadrunner didn't wear rally wheels... There are photos of the cast standing next to the roadrunner after the cliff scene. One in particular with Sonny Shroyer looking through the window of the wrecked remains.
Can't find it anywhere 😬 Can you post a link?
The cans you reference there iron is recycled for are what you get things like canned peas or carrots in. Beverage cans are aluminum.
Enjoyed the video, while I wasn’t hoping for this, I kept expecting them to encounter a rattlesnake in that ravine.
Perifractic: What if there's a driver in there?
The driver: AH HA I BEEN WAIT'N FIFTY YEARS
The old truck you found at the bottom of the cliff is the cab of a 50's era Mack truck.
Not sure if you're my hero or nuts for that journey 😅. Either way I admire your persistence. Obviously they're just trying to get rid of you because they don't want to be bothered... Jerks 😡. That Valiant had little baby narrow wheels. I'm thinking that wheel could've been from Daisy's car. Give it some time. Now that these two part videos are out there, someone will eventually contact you and give you a straight story on everything. I've seen this with KR Historians channel. Thumbs up to all of your hard work and dedication! 👍
Was a great video and thanks to you, i found the spot on the map :)
I didint know people were still interested in the movie duel. And then I saw the 4k and blu-ray sales on different DVD/Blu-ray boutiques. People love the movie.