Comparison : Nikon 85mm f/1.4 vs Nikon 85mm f/2

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 5 місяців тому +3

    For the second time, I have to thank you for producing an excellent video. I often look at good videos more than once
    RS. Canada

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  5 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot, I try to put some effort in my content and try to improve it everyday. Do not hesitate to share it with friends or in your social networks (if any). Best.

  • @hardwood-floor-refinishing
    @hardwood-floor-refinishing 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you Diy extravaganza for the test comparison. I have the 85mm f/2.0 AI version and was thinking about upgrading to the 85mm f/1.4. Now that I watched your UA-cam and read Richard Haw's article on the f/2.0 AI lens, I definitely will not waste the money. Your comparison shows extreme flare with the f/1.4 whereas little to none with the f/2.0. With the camera you used, the whites are far superior, clean and bright with the f/2.0. True, there is slightly more color saturation with the f/1.4 but this can be easily adjusted with the settings, film and or meter compensation. With the little improvement, that requires studying the images for sharpness, the f/1.4 is not notable especially with the amount of flare and muddy whites. Plus, for half the size and weight the f/2.0 is a much better all around lens. I use my 85mm f/2.0 on my FM, FM2n, FM3a and FE film cameras with T-Max and slow speed professional color positive film as well as vintage Scala, Ektachrome VS and the results are amazing. I am always looking to add to and or upgrade my classic film collection with what is considered the best vintage or new fixed focal manual focus lenses but, it will have to make a considerable difference, I am sorry but this one doesn't.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  2 роки тому +2

      That's the whole point of the video, let you decide whether your need it or not. Don't forget to tell your friends about the channel and drop a like. Cheers.

  • @somsakwongkittikriwon58
    @somsakwongkittikriwon58 2 роки тому +5

    Very clear and details comparison. Thanks a lot.

  • @Snikkelbek
    @Snikkelbek Рік тому +3

    Thanks for your comparison. I think at most apertures there are no significant differences. Small differences could easily been caused by slight focusing and exposure differences. In fact, I had both lenses and I kept the 85/2, it's very tiny.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому

      You're most probably right and did a very good choice, cheers.

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus 9 місяців тому +1

    In 1969, the second lens I purchased for my Nikon F was the 85mm f/1.8 Nikkor.
    In 2016, I upgraded to the 85mm f/1.4 Nikkor auto focus.
    I have never performed a head-to-head comparison. Thank you for yours.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  9 місяців тому +1

      You're welcome, to be honest all of these lenses are really good. The comparison is rather to get to know the lens better and get an idea on which situation one is better than the other. Best.

    • @raymondchan3587
      @raymondchan3587 4 місяці тому

      @@diyextravaganza Weight is one main consideration apart from cost.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  4 місяці тому

      @@raymondchan3587 I agree, but unless you have a super light camera, the difference is not much. I use a D4s, so difference is barely noticeable. Best.

  • @MikeDavinroy
    @MikeDavinroy Рік тому +2

    An excellent review. I wish more lens reviews were like yours.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому

      That means I need to make more lens reviews ☺️. Cheers.

  • @bartwaggoner2000
    @bartwaggoner2000 2 роки тому +4

    Nice to see the more expensive lens, at f2, is sharper - thank you for this exhaustive test

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  2 роки тому +2

      The opposite would have been annoying I believe. I like both lenses anyway. Cheers.

    • @joanarling
      @joanarling 8 місяців тому +1

      @bartwaggoner2000: Funny, I cannot share your result. Now as to sharpness proper, one would have to count lines on a Siemens star or the like, so you might be right. However, the 1.4 at f/2.0 only seemed sharper with the clock face, all other pictures seemed sharper with the 2.0. Please notice I say "seem", because microcontrast comes into its own, and that has little to do with sharpness. Let's say the 1.4 seemed considerably softer (which is a good thing when you come to portraits). Then there's chroma, which is unsharpness when you do B&W. Also the chroma appears on both outsides of the roof in magenta, which makes it a beast to remove in post. So I would conclude that the cheaper lens is at least more bang for the quid. Admittedly that is complaing on a pretty high level.
      @Diyextravaganza: Really good test/vid. Even where one might disagree, you can at least pinpoint the difference of opinion. Thank you!

  • @kalenderquantentunnel9411
    @kalenderquantentunnel9411 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for this extensive comparison, very informative. I owned both lenses before moving to high-res digital where both started showing their age and I moved to more modern lenses with less of the traditional abberations. You are confirming my own findings. BTW the 1.4 isn't extending its depth of field more to the background: It has a propensity for focus-shift. When focussing manually, the whole of the lenses diameter is used for focussing on the groundglass as you are focussing with the lens wide open. But the light from the outer diameter is focussed a bit closer than light from the center due to the spherical error of the lens. When stopping down after focussing, this part of the light is excluded from the exposure and you end up with slight back-focus. When using AF it works in the opposite direction: The AF uses light via an effectice aperture of 5,6 to 8 excluding most of the lenses spherical error. When shooting wide-open after focussing with AF you therefore end up with front-focus as the light from the outer diameter of the lens makes up for most of the exposure in this case but wasn't used for the aquisition of focus.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks a lot, a keep commenting on my videos. Everytime I learn something new 🙏

  • @globalfunseeker6733
    @globalfunseeker6733 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the comparison. After watching this video I can't think of a reason to purchase the f/1.4. The f/2.0 is sharper wide open and at other apertures is nearly as sharp. The extreme border sharpness on the f/1.4 is better, but how often are you shooting something that requires it? If used on a crop sensor camera, it's irrelevant. The f/1.4 displays far less chromatic aberration at every f-stop, and no flare. I find the f/2's color to be brighter and more accurate. The white is white, but this can always a result of poor white balance, which can be easily corrected in post. The f/2.0 is half the size and weight, and heaps cheaper. The f/2.0 looks like a keeper!

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  2 роки тому +1

      Great analysis. This is the goal of the video, to show what these lenses are about and how they behave side to side in the most impartial way, and let people decide whether they need or not the additional stop. Cheers

    • @77oregano77
      @77oregano77 8 місяців тому

      You don’t see it here but bokeh balls will appear octagonal on the F2 due to the blades.

  • @cggg490
    @cggg490 2 місяці тому

    Would have been nice to see portrait comparisons.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  2 місяці тому

      I'd like to make them, but it is impossible to make two identical images out of a living subject, I'll try with a doll next time.

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 9 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting video. Thank you.
    RS. Canada

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  9 місяців тому +1

      Hi, thanks! Don't forget to share with your photography inclined friends.

  • @lander.96
    @lander.96 Рік тому +2

    These test's are great.

  • @danielvonnagy
    @danielvonnagy 2 роки тому +1

    …the Nikkor 85mm f1.4 Ai-S is one of the best lenses ever made. I use it on a GFX camera and amazingly it covers the larger sensor without any significant vignetting. Just love it. ❤

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  2 роки тому +1

      That's very good to know. Thanks a lot for the info and your comment. Cheers.

    • @fatnerf
      @fatnerf 9 місяців тому +2

      I have both and can confirm the f2 works just as well on the GFX.

  • @djmarzek
    @djmarzek 2 роки тому +1

    buena comparacion! gracias por el video

  • @lesnytropiciel
    @lesnytropiciel Рік тому +1

    In comparision f2 he has slightly brighter colours, anyway fantastic lens

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому

      colors are as important as sharpness, many people seem to forget that. Cheers !

    • @lesnytropiciel
      @lesnytropiciel Рік тому

      @@diyextravaganza yes this one is very Sharp. Very good Lens f2 and cheap

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому

      @@lesnytropiciel I like both a lot. Only drawback of the 1.4 is the bulkiness. Cheers.

  • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568

    have you ever encountered the nikkor 43-86mm?

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому

      I've have one full of fungus around, why do you ask?

  • @413TomaccoRoad
    @413TomaccoRoad Рік тому +1

    In short , the f/2 is better and cheaper. The 1.4 has chromatic aberration and magenta tint.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому

      That's the goal of the test, to let you make your own conclusions. Cheers.

    • @cggg490
      @cggg490 2 місяці тому

      lol wrong.

  • @0x00000101
    @0x00000101 Рік тому

    Довольно сложно сравнивать старые объективы, которые долгое время были в пользовании. Что-то могло уже открутиться, расшататься и так далее

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому +1

      true, but I've revised the lenses myself. Cheers.

  • @corniste
    @corniste Рік тому +1

    Really strange comparison... For me, a simple user... I was practically never using my F 1.4 at 1.4 but mostly for portrait with available light at 2.8. I must say that if I could get something on the focus at 1.4, it would actually be on on focus on the real image at 2.8... And this was so important for a manual focus lens. Even at 2.8 the edge had only soft focus. For portraits mostly quite good! Today my Z 70-200 F 2.8 is just incredibly sharp. So sharp that you might need a bit of electronic soft focus in Photoshop sometimes! I have not seen bokeh comparison also. This is a must be for such lenses!

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  Рік тому

      Hi thanks, yours seems to be a particular use of f/1.4 lenses to do f/2.8, which is quite understandable since you're already two stops away from the maximum aperture and performance should therefore be really good. I haven't tried the Z 70-200 f/2.8 yet but I guess it is a magnificent beast. I have already some material for a bokeh comparison of such lenses but I haven't worked on that video yet, maybe it is time. Thanks a lot for supporting the channel, please tell all your acquantainces about it. Cheers.

  • @Jeff-zc6rr
    @Jeff-zc6rr 9 місяців тому

    why didn't you upload at 4K?

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  9 місяців тому +1

      Good idea, I'll take a look at that. Best

  • @Jeff-zc6rr
    @Jeff-zc6rr 9 місяців тому

    ``i'ts possible the F1.4 didn't capture the same focus point as the F2.

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  9 місяців тому

      I don't think so. I spend lots of time making sure it was not the case. Best.

  • @raymondchan3587
    @raymondchan3587 4 місяці тому

    why not compare f/1.8?

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  4 місяці тому

      I did not have the 1.8, which is think it is slightly more uncommon than the 1.4 or 2, at least where I live. Best.

  • @myblueandme
    @myblueandme 9 місяців тому +2

    f/2 is better

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  9 місяців тому +1

      Smaller, cheaper, near as good image quality. I get your point. Best.

    • @myblueandme
      @myblueandme 9 місяців тому

      @@diyextravaganza i liked its warm tone too

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  9 місяців тому +3

      @@myblueandme most important! You have a similar thing with the 105mm f2.5 and the 1.8. the colors of the 2.5 are far nicer. Best.

    • @myblueandme
      @myblueandme 9 місяців тому

      @@diyextravaganza doesn't it exhibit a similar color scheme as Voigtlander 58mm

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  9 місяців тому

      @@myblueandme I cannot tell as I've never used the Voigtländer. Best.

  • @felix_ghost13
    @felix_ghost13 6 місяців тому

    Hello - I am selling my Nikon 85mm f1/4 very good condition - if someone needs it. I am selling it for a fair price!

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  6 місяців тому

      Can you tell us your asking price?

    • @felix_ghost13
      @felix_ghost13 6 місяців тому

      @@diyextravaganza Hi - yes - I got it cleaned for (140€) here in Lisbon with around 9 months left of warranty. I simply don't use it and its way to good to be left in a bag.
      I am selling it for 600€

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  6 місяців тому

      @@felix_ghost13 very fair price for such a gem.

    • @felix_ghost13
      @felix_ghost13 6 місяців тому

      @@diyextravaganza Let me know if you are interested - if you are in europe I would include the shipping :)

    • @diyextravaganza
      @diyextravaganza  6 місяців тому

      @@felix_ghost13 not really, I have 2 waiting for service.