Legendary musician. Leviathan was one of the first USBM bands I heard as a teenager, was one of the biggest influences for me. The Tenth Sublevel of Suicide is still one of my favorite albums.
Jeff is an awesome musician, Leviathan is probably some Of the best black metal to come out of the states. I'd like to see him do some new material. Great interview.
Skateboarding was my gateway into music in the late 80's early 90's. From punk/hardcore into thrash, then Death metal and black metal throughout the 90's. I can relate to everything he's saying here, growing up in that era.
Absolutely love this man and what his music has done for me personally, the vitriol and shared hopelessness really kept me going through some dumb shit. Such a cool guy I’d love to get a tattoo from him one day
I wish you had had him discuss his catalog of albums, more thoroughly. You were just kind of shooting the breeze with him. Lol don’t get me wrong. That was cool, but I wanted to hear about his music more.
Great episode! I'm a big fan of Leviathan and Lurker all of his releases are awesome and made a big impact on me in the early 2000s particularly hearing Tenth Sub Level the first time
Someone should tell Jef about Session: Skate (PC, Xbox One, PS5), it's a great skating simulator, could bring him some joy now that he can't physically skate anymore. Takes some getting used to but is good fun once you get it.
lived in San Francisco many years wrote graffiti and had a blast.. it's gone downhill and I don't even go there anymore unless it's to check out amoeba or visit a friend...🤘☕🚬
Any chance you’ll ever do a reissue of the first two Abominator LP’s? Those are in desperate need of reissuing and are some of my favorite Black Metal albums.
Leviathan (and everything he is involved with) and Nachtmystium are my top two musical artists right now. Powerful, extreme, emotional music. I want to make my own music someday.
For me too! Don't stop trying to learn and create your own music even if you don't have physical instruments or money to pay for music lessons. I am in a similar situation, I just got a guitar (second hand by the way), I have two drumsticks and... some chair parts that I use as "pads" to play, and a computer with a DAW. At the moment this is what I have, but I am learning music in a self-taught way, although eventually when I have money I will take private lessons and continue learning. I want to do my one man project and do Black Metal and other genres, Xasthur, LVTHN, LoC, Twilight, etc. They are my biggest inspirations. Use all your negativity to transform it into something empowering as Jef always told us. By the way, I recommend you to listen to Draugar (is the Black Metal project of Tim Lehi, Jef's friend who is also a tattoo artist). It's really cool Black Metal!
@@-Aphonos- Checking out their metal archives now to listen to the. I'll try my best! My boss and his son both make music and have many instruments and tools. I hope all goes well for the both of us..!
@@stowlicters8362 Friend, take advantage, take advantage! Try to tell them that if there is a possibility that they can lend you something or even teach you. It's always good to try to connect with everything related to music and more so with people you can relate to. ✨🤝 And thank you, my friend! I hope that it will be like this for both of us, to do some musical projects and get our ideas out and share them!
Hails wrest!!! I have most of your music and its truly incredible powerful art and im happy to be a diehard fan of Leviathan and Lurker Of Chalice. Your music has touched my life and helped me through alot of dark shit. Ive never called bands like Silencer, Bethlehem, Xasthur, Leviathan etc DSBM. its misanthropic black metal! HAILS WREST!
I will never understand how someone can just stop listening to a band because of someones politics or doing something shitty. It just doesn't make sense to me. Clearly, to those people the music meant little, nothing more than some entertainment for the night.
@@Axeheavy322 I hung out and smoked cigarettes with the main dude of Panopticon for like half an hour outside a show just bullshitting , had no clue who he was until he was like "hey I gotta go play" hahaha
some people do do something with the negativity even people who do channel it & make great art, they end up taking their own lives like Erik Grim Brødreskift. sometimes it gets to be too much from too many people &they don't see another way away from all of it other than to take their own lives & escape all of it.*(from the way you guys talk about the guy from one of jef's other bands, the kid with the cape&rose reading oscar wilde as lyrics, you just seem like regular jock douchebags**{in a way bullying someone who you see yourself as better than, i do it with someone like John Wayne Gacy because he was genuinely a piece of shit that i see myself as better than because i don't rape&murder people unwillingly or even at all which i'm sure people like Euronymous might not appreciate given some of his beliefs or at least the ones we know mostly about.} who are into "this" instead of "that". i thought there was supposed to be more of a difference than just aesthetics.)***(i find it very strange that so many people try to make a name for themselves in whatever field they try to get into&then a lot of the times they'll sit around talking shit about other people who "drop names" while dropping names themselves.some people's names should be spoken about more imo because of what's happened to them, like Euronymous&Grim)*****(they should be spoken about more accurately, not how the majority of people like my ex&family&neighbours seem to do about me.)
Mexico City?! Dude! If Jef could come to that event in December, I would go CRAZY. I live near Mexico City so it would practically be my dream come true to meet him in person but it seems that won't be possible. 😔 But anyway, I loved this interview so much. It helped me a lot with my personal and creative aspects. Jef, if you ever stop by the video here, I want to tell you that you are one of my biggest creative and musical inspirations. I am facing all this adversity in life after listening to your demos and releases. Thanks, sir. I'm in the creative process of making my one-man project. 🤘
Black Metal has strayed so far from what it was supposed to be when Euronymous was alive&what he was trying to create it to be, it's a real shame that it's really only considered another genre of music&has so many subgenres that lack the same kind of depth that he was trying to create with it.
I'm glad Wrest opened up this much. It's great to hear the back story. For the longest time when I was a younger one, I always thought bm musicians had very unrelatable lives, lol. Hails \,,\
This has to be the longest recorded interview with Wrest online
It's great to see!
Legendary musician. Leviathan was one of the first USBM bands I heard as a teenager, was one of the biggest influences for me. The Tenth Sublevel of Suicide is still one of my favorite albums.
What's legendary about it? A legendary one might be the Order From Chaos.
@@petrichor546different strokes for different folks my friend
Jeff is such a genuine human being. I loved his interviews on the OMM documentary.
Jeff is an awesome musician, Leviathan is probably some Of the best black metal to come out of the states. I'd like to see him do some new material. Great interview.
Awesome to see some footage of wrest !
Skateboarding was my gateway into music in the late 80's early 90's. From punk/hardcore into thrash, then Death metal and black metal throughout the 90's. I can relate to everything he's saying here, growing up in that era.
Same with me but in the 2010s, I’ll always be a skater at heart
@@understanding77probably most of us were the same man
Jef’s honesty about drugs and alcohol is inspiring.
Where was he commenting on that?
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Jef is a fucking wizard, thanks for putting this out.
glad to hear that "DSBM" rant, that's 100% true
Both you guys are legends. Thanks for the interview.
Legends live forever, but only when they are dead.
Had a great experience getting tattooed by Jef last Summer
Great interview/chat, Jef's an infinitely interesting guy !!
“ a picked on loner screaming his head off playing powerful guitar 🎸 “ Wrest , OMM
Amazing interview, maybe the most we've seen so far of Jef online
Jef is the best US black metal musician hands down.
This dude is so badass. This interview gives such an insight to how human Jef is. Such rich, incredible experiences he's had.
Absolutely love this man and what his music has done for me personally, the vitriol and shared hopelessness really kept me going through some dumb shit. Such a cool guy I’d love to get a tattoo from him one day
fuck yeah im so ready for his next project
Awesome interview ,Wrest is one of my favorite artists of all time. Good to see him doing well 🐐
Hope that unreleased Lurker of Chalice material gets a release
I've had the chance to hangout with jef many times back in the early 2010s. Super talented guy, and a really cool dude.
Just got tattooed by Wrest 2 months ago!
I always look forward to hearing new interviews on here! So entertaining... Please keep doing them, I really enjoy them alot
Awesome interview. Have had a ton of friends get tattooed by Jef over the years. Top notch guy.
Thanks for this conversation!
Love hearing Jeff shout out Dan Higgs. Huge inspiration to myself as well and I suspect a secret inspiration to more bm than people might suspect
the Lungfish fella?
Agreed. Higgs Rules.
I luv Twilight… wish they would’ve made more music and play live.
yeah that band was great
HECK YES! So good to see Jef doing well. Great interview.
Also, Thunder Trucks owe BACK TAXES
Great interview with Wrest, glad he is doing well
A musical treasure and inspiration 🤘🔥
Holy shit I'm so fucking glad to have this. Fucking love you Jef.
Thanks for all the great content.
I wish you had had him discuss his catalog of albums, more thoroughly. You were just kind of shooting the breeze with him. Lol don’t get me wrong. That was cool, but I wanted to hear about his music more.
Amazing musician, a creative genius. PS True Traitor is my favourite Leviathan record, thanks for the killer music Jef.
One of my favorite artists, people. I lived in San Jose for a couple years and used to think of him all the time
Great episode! I'm a big fan of Leviathan and Lurker all of his releases are awesome and made a big impact on me in the early 2000s particularly hearing Tenth Sub Level the first time
Amazing stuff fucking hell, Jef's looking gnarly as always.... cracking stream, thanks!
Someone should tell Jef about Session: Skate (PC, Xbox One, PS5), it's a great skating simulator, could bring him some joy now that he can't physically skate anymore. Takes some getting used to but is good fun once you get it.
Jef talks about upcoming LP 1:35:42
great interview
King crimson really interesting disciple's of mockery t is fiting as well 🤘🤘
Holy shit. Hailz to both, Jef is one of a kind!
S.F. A magical place in the 70s/80s/90s. Pheneomenal music and art from all genres. We would go and visit my cousins.
......when I was young, didn't want to leave....
I proudly got the moon tattoo from Jeff! HAILZ
The king.
Hails from Alberta Yosuke!
Great interview
Wonder if Devout Records in Portland is ever going to reopen
Thank you
Great man opening up, zero fucks given. Utmost Respect!
best interview with Wrest
Tommy Guerrero was so fun to watch back in the day! Epic.
Love u Jef
So many hailz! This guy is such an inspiration.
Yosuke, my dude, that room echo is killing me. Cool interview nonetheless….hailz!
I'm only a little bit into the interview but I gotta say, I would've never guessed that Jef Whitehead was a fan of Van Halen and jazz fusion lol
He also hates Blues haha. But yep, he has mentioned in some past interviews that VH and Jazz Fusion are his taste.
Lurker of Chalice 🔥🔥🔥🔥...oh yeah and One Man Metal 😂 All three of those guys were tweaking !!! Kurwa 😂😂
No they werent you fucking pleb
Jef is the man
Great interview!!!
Nice one
His mic is fine, lol, calm down. Awesome interview, can't believe he is 56!
Super intelligent dude
No better place to be in a kid in a grouphome than early '80s SF...That explains a lot right there
When the new LVTHN album comes out please, please PLEASE interview Jef again 🙏
lived in San Francisco many years wrote graffiti and had a blast.. it's gone downhill and I don't even go there anymore unless it's to check out amoeba or visit a friend...🤘☕🚬
Damn. It's Wrest!
The most interesting man in the world
I got pancreatitis as well drink a bottle a day from the age of 11 to 30... Besides the years I was locked up.. DNA lounge is still there btw
Love Jaclyn Sheer. Essential contributor to USBM.
this rules
Wild how better his audio is than yours.
Awesome interview. Now do john gossard?
That be interesting!
Any chance you’ll ever do a reissue of the first two Abominator LP’s? Those are in desperate need of reissuing and are some of my favorite Black Metal albums.
I beg to differ; True Traitor True Whore is a terrific album if the listener is also in the throes of morbid depression and substance abuse.
Holy $hitball$ 😮😮😮😮
Dude is old. I just turned 58. Lol.
You’ll find out.
hooooly shit
Fuck yeah Jef!
Leviathan (and everything he is involved with) and Nachtmystium are my top two musical artists right now. Powerful, extreme, emotional music. I want to make my own music someday.
Lurker will blow your mind
For me too! Don't stop trying to learn and create your own music even if you don't have physical instruments or money to pay for music lessons. I am in a similar situation, I just got a guitar (second hand by the way), I have two drumsticks and... some chair parts that I use as "pads" to play, and a computer with a DAW. At the moment this is what I have, but I am learning music in a self-taught way, although eventually when I have money I will take private lessons and continue learning. I want to do my one man project and do Black Metal and other genres, Xasthur, LVTHN, LoC, Twilight, etc. They are my biggest inspirations. Use all your negativity to transform it into something empowering as Jef always told us.
By the way, I recommend you to listen to Draugar (is the Black Metal project of Tim Lehi, Jef's friend who is also a tattoo artist). It's really cool Black Metal!
@@-Aphonos- Checking out their metal archives now to listen to the. I'll try my best! My boss and his son both make music and have many instruments and tools. I hope all goes well for the both of us..!
@@stowlicters8362 Friend, take advantage, take advantage! Try to tell them that if there is a possibility that they can lend you something or even teach you. It's always good to try to connect with everything related to music and more so with people you can relate to. ✨🤝 And thank you, my friend! I hope that it will be like this for both of us, to do some musical projects and get our ideas out and share them!
Tommy Guerrero is a great musician in his own right.
Not quite Leviathan though is he
@@Carpenter0102 Not even comparable in terms of genre. Just felt nostalgic when he mentioned him and skateboarding.
YSK please get a proper microphone 🎙️
Hails wrest!!! I have most of your music and its truly incredible powerful art and im happy to be a diehard fan of Leviathan and Lurker Of Chalice. Your music has touched my life and helped me through alot of dark shit. Ive never called bands like Silencer, Bethlehem, Xasthur, Leviathan etc DSBM. its misanthropic black metal! HAILS WREST!
N E R D
Amazing interview on all counts but please, Yosuke, get a microphone. Your audio is atrocious 🙏🏻
I will never understand how someone can just stop listening to a band because of someones politics or doing something shitty. It just doesn't make sense to me. Clearly, to those people the music meant little, nothing more than some entertainment for the night.
No way
Great interview... the echo in the room makes it hard to hear 👂
Best Far Left Wing Black Metal band is without a doubt Trespasser.
Basically a more punk(ish) version of Marduk's Panzer division
I would say Panopticon as far as lefty usbm goes
@@Axeheavy322 I hung out and smoked cigarettes with the main dude of Panopticon for like half an hour outside a show just bullshitting , had no clue who he was until he was like "hey I gotta go play" hahaha
far left metal is all a larp
@@stowlicters8362 yeah of corse it is, but Panopticon is the only leftist bm band I can think of that has some decent material
@@stowlicters8362 so is far right metal considering they need to do “secret” shows for their safe space .
i just dont understand how you run a "podcast" and have horrific audio.
straight up! surely can afford to get even a half decent mic????
some people do do something with the negativity even people who do channel it & make great art, they end up taking their own lives like Erik Grim Brødreskift. sometimes it gets to be too much from too many people &they don't see another way away from all of it other than to take their own lives & escape all of it.*(from the way you guys talk about the guy from one of jef's other bands, the kid with the cape&rose reading oscar wilde as lyrics, you just seem like regular jock douchebags**{in a way bullying someone who you see yourself as better than, i do it with someone like John Wayne Gacy because he was genuinely a piece of shit that i see myself as better than because i don't rape&murder people unwillingly or even at all which i'm sure people like Euronymous might not appreciate given some of his beliefs or at least the ones we know mostly about.} who are into "this" instead of "that". i thought there was supposed to be more of a difference than just aesthetics.)***(i find it very strange that so many people try to make a name for themselves in whatever field they try to get into&then a lot of the times they'll sit around talking shit about other people who "drop names" while dropping names themselves.some people's names should be spoken about more imo because of what's happened to them, like Euronymous&Grim)*****(they should be spoken about more accurately, not how the majority of people like my ex&family&neighbours seem to do about me.)
Mexico City?! Dude! If Jef could come to that event in December, I would go CRAZY. I live near Mexico City so it would practically be my dream come true to meet him in person but it seems that won't be possible. 😔
But anyway, I loved this interview so much. It helped me a lot with my personal and creative aspects. Jef, if you ever stop by the video here, I want to tell you that you are one of my biggest creative and musical inspirations. I am facing all this adversity in life after listening to your demos and releases. Thanks, sir.
I'm in the creative process of making my one-man project. 🤘
The debut sounds like bad burzum? Must be one of those yosuke takes such as "coffins sounds like an autopsy ripoff" 🤣
10th sub level is my favorite Leviathan record
Yosuke panning greg anderson and southern lord is laughable...
cos of all the Blasphemy copycats he has on the label? just assumed the music on SL was not his thing
You keep cutting him off!
Leviathan is hipster black metal
It seems clear that you might not have a deep understanding of the intricacies and nuances of black metal as a genre
Black Metal has strayed so far from what it was supposed to be when Euronymous was alive&what he was trying to create it to be, it's a real shame that it's really only considered another genre of music&has so many subgenres that lack the same kind of depth that he was trying to create with it.
Good call!
Hipsters love leviathan but that doesn’t make him hipster metal. He was around before the hipsters and will be after lol.
I'm glad Wrest opened up this much. It's great to hear the back story.
For the longest time when I was a younger one, I always thought bm musicians had very unrelatable lives, lol.
Hails \,,\
I was at that Enslaved / Weakling gig at CW too. 🫡