This symphony is, in my opinion one of the hardest ones to not like. It is fine, well composed and easy to like because of the simple melodies and especially the main theme which come through all the movements.
I first heard this on "78s" as our family was too poor to afford LPs. It had to be played very fast to fit on the short sides. I think about this same speed.
35:45 it’s hard to realise, but I think this theme is a condensed version of the second movement’s horn solo but shifted slightly, starting at what would be the second bar of the horn solo.
Is it just me, or does the introduction to the first movement sound almost the same as the introduction to the fourth movement. Both introductions have the same tonic. The only difference is the Fourth Movement has an introduction that sounds like a happier version of the first movement's introduction. Edit: Just to be clear, this comment was made before I got interested in the Fourth Movement. I now know what's going on.
It isn’t just you - it’s deliberate. In fact in the final moments of the finale you also hear the corresponding major version second theme from the fourth movement, the one that is originally played by a bassoon-clarinet duo. In a way the fifth symphony seems to be about optimism just like how the sixth seems to be about the ultimate pessimism.
It's called cyclic form. The same ideas can appear in other movements, like recurring characters in different chapters of a story. In this symphony the first theme goes in a bit of a "character arc". It starts like a dirge in the Mov I, it reappears as an explosive fanfarre in Mov II, as a distant memory in Mov III, and as a joyous melody in IV. It also helps in unifying the piece, so the movements sound like different parts of a whole instead of independent compositions.
There is a cello solo version, in a 50 classical pieces book, that extracts exactly this, and I hadn't heard it before, so this is is exactly what I needed. I think it will make a fine cello piece. Well it does not include this much.
Great use of cyclic form in nearly the whole symphony, and it starts off with that trumpet-call theme in the Bb clarinet. Should be something like a symphonic poem in 4 parts instead of a symphony. The introduction to the 1st movement's exposition sets this theme up for a fantasy that lasts that roughly 32 to 38 minutes of exciting Tschaikovsky symphonic work!
8:53 mark - if I were the orchestral timpanist here, the 8 notes on the 32nd-note roll on the 8 Bb-flats (beats 3 4), I would go something like this in that 1st-movement development section that is about to come to a close..... "FF" on the first Bb notes (beats 1 2), then start piano on the first 32nd note of the short roll up to the last 32nd note with a quick crescendo back to "FF" (on beats 3 4), and "FF" on the Bb notes on beats 5 and 6. This happens twice. Thinking "Tchaikovsky" here with that Bb-notes in the kettledrums. With the pull back to "p" and quick crescendo back to "ff", it would, if I were that composer, sound like a lightning strike and a quick thunderous rumble explosion (the "roll itself")--something like an "revenge blow" or "revenge blast", or even a shock wave. That is what I am thinking. Tschaikovsky was known for creating musical and non-musical effects (alluding to the use of cannon blasts in his "1812 Overture", etc.). But only the conductor has the final say--the conductor can accept or reject my musical thinking. This is because I am a sort of junkie regarding this symphony. I love it so dearly right down to the timpani notes!
Sounds like it is taken from a vinyl disc - has the characteristic distortion in the closing minutes where the loud sound coincides with the shortened wavelengths at the centre of the disc.
*Часть I* Сонатная форма Вступление - 0:06 Главная партия - 2:31 Побочная партия - 4:23 Разработка - 6:54 Реприза, Главная партия - 9:14 Реприза, Побочная партия - 10:31 Кода - 13:00 *Часть II* Сложная трехчастная форма Вступление - 14:37 Первая часть А - 15:15 Средняя часть С - 19:24 Реприза А - 21:17 Кода - 24:27 *Часть III. Вальс* Сложная трехчастная форма Первая часть А - 26:32 Средняя часть С - 27:58 Реприза А - 29:23 Кода - 30:45 *Часть IV. Финал* Рондо-сонатная форма ABARABK Вступление - 31:57 Главная партия (А) - 34:50 Побочная партия (B) - 35:44 Главная партия (A1) - 36:43 Разработка - 36:55 Реприза, Главная партия (A2) - 38:02 Реприза, Побочная партия (B1) - 39:05 Кода - 40:30
That's one of your excerpts??!! Wow, good luck. I played this symphony last year at an honor orchestra as a violist and that was the part where everyone basically wasn't able to play it anymore and we tried to get as close to the run as possible and just hit the top note.
Last movement is so fast that the Poco più animato at 38:00 had actually to be played slower then the previous section... But very good rendition anyawy!
나는 희빈 장씨니라 꺄아하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하
This symphony is, in my opinion one of the hardest ones to not like. It is fine, well composed and easy to like because of the simple melodies and especially the main theme which come through all the movements.
It's just one of the best. Maybe the Coda of the Finale is not unroblematic, but apart from that...
Well said... and I agree
Ce que tu dis n'est pas faux !
Great, but I think 6 is better on the whole
@@sionlewis1931 I much prefer the 4th and 6th symphony over this one, but it’s still a great one.
Best Tchaikovsky symphony ever written.
what about the 6th??
There are no words to describe how great this symphony is. It's such a gigantic masterpiece.
i love that there is a page turn right before the theme at 20:53. it makes the return of the theme way more unpredictable
My conductor didn’t love it lol
17:52 is where that one concertgoer got a little too excited
this one sounds better mixed than most on spotify and ever since listening to this tempo I cant find any better
lol, no it doesn't
I've never heard the 4th movement played so energetically before! But I think playing it in 1 is the way to go. The music flows so much better.
I first heard this on "78s" as our family was too poor to afford LPs. It had to be played very fast to fit on the short sides. I think about this same speed.
That is probably what our conductor will do.
I’m watching this live tonight at the Monterey Bay Symphony! So excited, cheers everyone.
Our orchestra played this a month ago, it was ABSOLUTELY EPIC!! The last movement even got a cheer! Incridible, complex, brilliant!!
1 часть
вст 0:06
гп 2:34
с.п 4:24
1пп 5:21
2пп 5:40
2 часть
вст 14:37
гп 15:15
пп 16:35
ПАСТОРАЛЬНАЯ тема 19:25
срыв середины 20:54
срыв репризы 24:29
нервный срыв
3 часть
осн 26:33 (лучший парт в симфе)
трио 27:58
4 часть
вст 31:57
гп 34:50
пп 35:39
св1 38:25 (нет в викте)
св2 38:37 (просто решил поумничать)
кода 40:29
Ну это на века, брат
спасибо, двигаешься ровно
бро пасиб помог, буду переписывать викторину
35:45 it’s hard to realise, but I think this theme is a condensed version of the second movement’s horn solo but shifted slightly, starting at what would be the second bar of the horn solo.
Holy shit, I actually can hear the resemblance and I think you may be right! Thanks for pointing this out!
@@salmonidae3667Haha you’re very welcome. If you like that, here’s another observation I just made - 42:09 is that same condensed horn solo again.
Theme of Destiny❤❤❤
l 0:06
ll 20:55 24:28
lll 31:20
lV 31:58 36:19 39:43 40:36
11:48 I'm a viola and i love finally playing this beautiful melody.
Amazing. A constant with Tchaikovsky
Sgreed. He always hits home runs to the heart tidal wave
Is it just me, or does the introduction to the first movement sound almost the same as the introduction to the fourth movement. Both introductions have the same tonic. The only difference is the Fourth Movement has an introduction that sounds like a happier version of the first movement's introduction.
Edit: Just to be clear, this comment was made before I got interested in the Fourth Movement. I now know what's going on.
It isn’t just you - it’s deliberate. In fact in the final moments of the finale you also hear the corresponding major version second theme from the fourth movement, the one that is originally played by a bassoon-clarinet duo.
In a way the fifth symphony seems to be about optimism just like how the sixth seems to be about the ultimate pessimism.
You can find that opening theme in all four movements in different places.
That is very purposeful
@@JoshuaPluta good point
It's called cyclic form. The same ideas can appear in other movements, like recurring characters in different chapters of a story.
In this symphony the first theme goes in a bit of a "character arc". It starts like a dirge in the Mov I, it reappears as an explosive fanfarre in Mov II, as a distant memory in Mov III, and as a joyous melody in IV.
It also helps in unifying the piece, so the movements sound like different parts of a whole instead of independent compositions.
I’m playing 2nd violin of this piece for college orchestra. Can’t wait.
There is a cello solo version, in a 50 classical pieces book, that extracts exactly this, and I hadn't heard it before, so this is is exactly what I needed. I think it will make a fine cello piece. Well it does not include this much.
Great use of cyclic form in nearly the whole symphony, and it starts off with that trumpet-call theme in the Bb clarinet. Should be something like a symphonic poem in 4 parts instead of a symphony.
The introduction to the 1st movement's exposition sets this theme up for a fantasy that lasts that roughly 32 to 38 minutes of exciting Tschaikovsky symphonic work!
It really is one of my all time favorites 🎼
Tchaikovsky was truly one of the greatest of all time 🎵
Mravinsky had this orchestra bussin on the beat back in the day huh?
the 2nd movement is my favorite
23:31 the absolute pinnacle of romanticism in music
absolutely, this is one of the greatest melodies ever composed
Prelude to Rachmanioff
The composers deluxe paeon to the heart ( note i said deluxe cuz all his stuff is tribute to heart). Mega emotional. Overwhelmingly emotional.
Просто гениальная первая валторна!!! Вообще очень классно играют!
Браво!
8:53 mark - if I were the orchestral timpanist here, the 8 notes on the 32nd-note roll on the 8 Bb-flats (beats 3 4), I would go something like this in that 1st-movement development section that is about to come to a close.....
"FF" on the first Bb notes (beats 1 2), then start piano on the first 32nd note of the short roll up to the last 32nd note with a quick crescendo back to "FF" (on beats 3 4), and "FF" on the Bb notes on beats 5 and 6. This happens twice.
Thinking "Tchaikovsky" here with that Bb-notes in the kettledrums. With the pull back to "p" and quick crescendo back to "ff", it would, if I were that composer, sound like a lightning strike and a quick thunderous rumble explosion (the "roll itself")--something like an "revenge blow" or "revenge blast", or even a shock wave. That is what I am thinking. Tschaikovsky was known for creating musical and non-musical effects (alluding to the use of cannon blasts in his "1812 Overture", etc.).
But only the conductor has the final say--the conductor can accept or reject my musical thinking. This is because I am a sort of junkie regarding this symphony. I love it so dearly right down to the timpani notes!
Truly the best symphony
of the 6th symphonies . ❤
I'm studying this symphony.This movie is very usuful.Thank you very much!
damn, the second movement hit so hard.
3:15 66
6:54 216
10:31 373
Sounds like it is taken from a vinyl disc - has the characteristic distortion in the closing minutes where the loud sound coincides with the shortened wavelengths at the centre of the disc.
*Часть I*
Сонатная форма
Вступление - 0:06
Главная партия - 2:31
Побочная партия - 4:23
Разработка - 6:54
Реприза, Главная партия - 9:14
Реприза, Побочная партия - 10:31
Кода - 13:00
*Часть II*
Сложная трехчастная форма
Вступление - 14:37
Первая часть А - 15:15
Средняя часть С - 19:24
Реприза А - 21:17
Кода - 24:27
*Часть III. Вальс*
Сложная трехчастная форма
Первая часть А - 26:32
Средняя часть С - 27:58
Реприза А - 29:23
Кода - 30:45
*Часть IV. Финал*
Рондо-сонатная форма ABARABK
Вступление - 31:57
Главная партия (А) - 34:50
Побочная партия (B) - 35:44
Главная партия (A1) - 36:43
Разработка - 36:55
Реприза, Главная партия (A2) - 38:02
Реприза, Побочная партия (B1) - 39:05
Кода - 40:30
marking my audition spots, please ignore!
12:24
23:23
40:57
41:58
How did it go?
Love it!
То есть спасибо большущщщее!
1st horn solo:
4:59 G
6:51 K
11:19 U9
This was a good score reading video, but the ads really got in the way being set in the middle of the movements
This version is the best one I think.
Ah, Mravinsky. Lovely
Came for the orgasm. Stayed for the romanticism.
Poor L. A. Philharmonic 😂 👉👌
Wat
Explain yourself 😂
@@mariaiordanidou8112let’s just that one person in the crowd listening to this really enjoyed it.
2:34 38 5:19 152 7:42 M 9:39 R 11:49 427
18:27 B 21:20 108 22:33 H
Thank you for this!!
40:29 Best part. :D
I have to play excerpts from 10:17 , 17:19 and 29:22 for an audition
10:16
17:16
39:33
Personal timestamp for audition: 41:59
The ending of this symphony is ambiguous - the triumph of invincible fate or victory over it
Thank you a lot!
3:18
7:42
22:30
40:50
41:58 All-State Viola Excerpt
That's one of your excerpts??!! Wow, good luck. I played this symphony last year at an honor orchestra as a violist and that was the part where everyone basically wasn't able to play it anymore and we tried to get as close to the run as possible and just hit the top note.
@@JoshuaPluta wow!!!
Last movement is so fast that the Poco più animato at 38:00 had actually to be played slower then the previous section... But very good rendition anyawy!
0:06 20:55 24:28 31:21 31:57 36:18 40:36 41:21
XD
36:18 too
@@Dylonely42 thanks
@@Y_x-f Np dd
What about those are funny? Btw hello again Dylonely
great on you to notice all the references to the first seconds of the piece!
11:48
18:00
11:45 excerpt
I’m just not sure if this symphony is my thing. Or Tchaikovsky in general, to be honest.
2:31
34:51
23:23
27:58
min 15:15 horner solo
21:38 Sul G section
36:10 4°mov letter k
34:50
40:30
10:09
14:37
9:14
3:50
概要欄に第3楽章はニ長調と書いてあるけど
正しくはイ長調ですよ
He fixed it
@@John-fh8vy
thank you very much
20:56
23:00
17:58 that French +6th chord
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4楽章バカ速くて草
Yes, and I am probably going tohave to play it that way.
19:28 début 3e trait
9:26 trait clarinette
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moderate assai e molto maestoso
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Music begins at 34:50
Последняя часть надоедливая, а так, гениально
him an Brahhms…..oh…
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sounds a bit disney at moments
Not a fan of the horn vibrato. Sounds like a saxophone
Last movement was ridiculous. Way too fast!
It sounds just right to me
Undisciplined playing. Hacks.
mravinsky does a great 4th, the 5th goes to klemperer
His piccolo parts were so unnecessary in this symphony.
Didn't like conductor's interpretation.
Evgeny Mravinsky... Never liked this fellow!
such a meh recording
Do you know of a better one cuz this recording seems pretty amazing to me
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