Turning the Ordinary into the Extraordinary. Bespoke Watch from Old Parts and Sleepless Nights.
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- This vintage restoration took everything but the kitchen sink. CNC, 3D printing, silver plating, and so much more. We end up having to make a custom dial from a sheet of brass, along with the watch indices.
This one is going to be interesting.The hardest watch restoration I've undertaken so far took me over 2 months to bring it all together, so I hope you like seeing the transformation from broken to a unique piece.
#vintagewatches #WatchRestoration #watchrepair #vintagewatch
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Nick from Koltsov Workshop - vintage watches, serviced, original
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Oil used
Light oil (escape wheel/third wheel/fourth wheel/balance pivots): Moebius 9010
Heavy oil (centre wheel/barrel arbor/barrel/motion work): Moebius HP 1300 or Moebius D5
Pallet oil: Moebius 941/2 and Moebius 9415 pallet grease (for fast beating watches over 19,800bph)
Mainspring: Moebius 8200 grease
Keyless work and upper crown wheel: Moebius 8301 grease
Cleaning agents
Elma - WF Pro Watch Cleaning
Elma Suprol Pro
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00:00 Introduction
00:47 Dial Parts
01:02 Disassembly and cleaning the watch
02:17 Winding the Mainspring
05:10 Reassembling and Oiling the watch
19:36 Designing the dial
21:13 3D Printing the dial template
23:12 Finishing up the dial design
24:51 CNC and cutting the brass sheet
29:31 Cleaning and bevelling the dial parts
33:24 Surface finishing the dial
34:35 Electrochemical cleaning and silver plating the dial
36:57 Dial feet
39:47 Fitting the indices
42:58 Crafting the Watch Strap
01:00:25 Tick Tock: Does the Watch Run? - Навчання та стиль
Dear Mr. Saving-Time, I know it has been 7 months but just discovered your channel and love it. I especially like the history lessons, strap making and dial making. I vote for keeping this format.
Repeatedly states that he's not by any means an expert, then proceeds to carry out a range of tasks like an absolute boss far beyond the skills of 99.9% of people. Nice work! I would love to be able to create something to that calibre (🙄) and if I could I would wear it with pride everyday!
The idea of designing and creating my own dial is a concept I really like! Your work is quite inspiring! Thank You for All the Work!
2:08 "So all I have to really put this back together is my own intelligence and knowledge, so we might be in trouble."
The way that you nonchalantly slip that piece of gold into your commentary is the real charm of this channel 😂
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it the world needs more people who take themselves less seriously ;)
Can’t say anything that’s not already been said…please just do whatever the hell you want & post it! Thank you David!
Next week, on saving time, Morris dancing: :D Or maybe some more dials. Thank you for the kind words.
David! Everything about this is fantastically, gloriously nuts, right from “ I know! I’ll make a dial myself!” to actually doing it. Genuinely inspirational. And plenty of laughs too. Thank you for the kind words, wishing you and the lovely Mrs SavingTime a great Christmas. Alec.
Thank you. Everyone who reads these comments. Go watch this guy; he's great. Right back at you with the Christmas wishes, sir. I still need to watch your latest one UA-cam did not tell me it was out, even though i asked it to, Bloody algorithms
Well done, keep going!
OK
Numbers - solder two posts to back using silver hard and corresponding drill holes and solder post using silver solder (soft) you've basically made a flat earing so you need earing posts or silver wire and make your own posts. Or position and solder straight on. These days they use microwelds to solder but we used hand held guns and two pipes with a bottle next to our legs lmao. Edit when you solder on it will leave a tiny cone of solder round the base of the post which will leave the number slightly proud. To stop that 1) File it away using much finer needle files till they sit flat. Drill through watch face. Push posts through holes. Nip ends off and file. Now either toffee hammer them flat and make a kind of rivet head by doing it (no solder method) 2) nip off flush, file flat and solder with silver soft file flat with dremmel or pendant drill and soft rubber wheel. (no idea what they're called now but that's what we used to call them. Same constancy as the ink rubber on an old school rubber.
Polishing and filing nightmare had me biting my hand. The saw frame will make a lovely edge which would just need a light sand wrapped round a dremel frazing ball or old dremel drill bit. But if you want it shiny then use a pendant drill with black polishing wheel (slightly abrasive rubber) then finish off with flour sand paper.
We used to get letter transfers and put them on the silver sheet and use saw frame to cut round them. We wouod practice cutting the letters out of two pence
You also need finer needle files yours was like a bastard file lmao. I'd struggle with that.
That effect you were looking for with brushed metal you did OK but the reason it wasn't great was paper was too rough and you can't keep angle exact. My first job every day was to make up the sanding batons. A piece of hardwood 30 cm long and 8 or 10ml by I'd guess 20ml. Sheet of sanding paper in 3 grades. Fold them round the batons and tape at one end. As you use it up you rip it round the baton to expose fresh. Hold item on a jewllers pillar to catch light and in one smooth motion slide the paper across. Never back and forth. One slide along by hand. Blowing debris off each swipe. But what we had great success with later on with was doing that then barrel rolling rings in a barrel with soapy water and metal beads. Balls and rod like beads the size of small rice. For an hour or so. Rings sanded then barrel rolled. The shanks had such crisp clean edges it was gorgeous and they had a matt finish.
Good luck hope that's helped
It did help, and that was really helpful. Thank you for taking the time. Most appreciated. I'll keep working at it. I was hoping some people who knew more than me would chime in to tell me where I was going wrong.
@@Saving-Timeoh god no you're not going wrong you made a beautiful job of it I'm just saying what we did to get a slightly cleaner result in a fraction of the time. And er .... I am looking to do my first watch and I know its gonna end up in a bag until I watch more videos 🤣
You don’t have to be interested in watch making to be thoroughly entertained by this content. I watch for the comedy!! 😂😂. Please keep ‘em coming David!
Thank you sir
That dial is incredible. Great job!
I would say it is a lovely dial. Thank you for the inspiring video!
Thank you, new one is coming soon
This is amazing, as creatives we always want to push for perfection for the next piece however this (even as a first go) is class. Wonderful design, patience, and craft. Respect. Best wishes on more custom watches/dials. Salud!
Great dial! Well done, I can appreciate how time consuming the whole process was…you have my admiration. Regard from Sydney, Australia.
WOW! Amazing amount of work you put in here! It’s pretty impressive that you’re able to also film your process and share with the world. You should be very proud!
Thank you so much! Filming makes it a lot more difficult but i do enjoy it.
Brilliant work David. I love the extras - strap making, dial making.... They're are already TONS of videos on watch cleaning, assembly, etc. Thanks for the work. Fascinating and great outcome!
Glad you like them! Thanks for letting me know :)
Awesome job
You’re genuinely trying to do the whole thing
You’ve given us all something to aspire to
Thank you. I'd like to learn more, maybe not master everything, but at least know the basics of all aspects of watchmaking. I'm happy you got something out of it
Great job! There are not many dial making vids. This was great!
Absolutely amazing.
Thanks for this! Having watched hundreds of watch repair videos, I believe yours might be the only video on YT of a self proclaimed amateur successfully making a gorgeous dial from scratch. Cracking job!
Thank you so much. I'm very happy you enjoyed my efforts. Cheers
I am amazed by the Colors : when you look upward it seems with yellow Colors with less constraint than when looking from little aside where you almost see dark numbers and light plate (sorry for the English). Thus is a really good job.
Absolutely fantastic. I'm so impressed at the dedication to learning and improving. For a first stab at making a dial, you must be over the moon at the result.
Also, since you started it, I'd like to let viewers know that David sourced a part for me, and also graciously refused to take money for it. What a gent. Happy holidays to you and Mrs ST.
Hey Endy It's good to see you back, mate. No worries on the part; plenty of people helped me get here, so I'm just paying it forward where I can, so to speak! I was pleased with the dial, and Mrs. ST was pleased that the huge amount of swearing and throwing things around stopped. I think during this video I used up all the swear words; there are none left for anything else. Happy holidays to you and all of yours!
Ypu keep making the videos, and I'll keep watching them :)
Thats so cool!! I would like to make some sort of skeleton watch transforming one of those vintage watches, and this has inspired me!
Great video and really impressed with your courage to have a go at a really complicated and time consuming project. It has given me inspiration to continue on my own journey. Please continue with more videos along the same line. Cheers.
Thank you! Good luck to you, and if it helps, I filled up an entire bin full of dials before I got something that I was even vaguely happy with.
@@Saving-Time good to know 😉
Super effort, brilliant outcome, Cheers.
I loved that video. Plenty of plain watch restoration videos out there, but I loved the way you explain your steps, and attempt something more complex and difficult than just putting it back together.
Very nice work. Thanks for sharing your work.
Very nice looking watch you did a good job!
Job well done! Enjoy your videos and the fact that you use close up to record the work.
I have learned from your videos and may attempt to try cleaning and lubricating a few of my old pocket watches.
Thank you and keep the videos coming.
Thank you very much!
The dial looks warm and casual, and not only the story behind is beautiful, but I have to say: also the dial looks really charming, despite having imperfections.
Thank you; that's very nice to hear. Glad you liked it
Very nice!
Thanks!
Groovy job with the dial!
Thank you! Glad you liked it
I absolutely thoroughly enjoyed this video
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for letting me know.
Dial is a lovely piece of work, first job or not. Eye-catching without flamboyance. As for future videos, I think you should pursue whatever projects bring you the best balance of challenge vs. satisfaction, and rest assured others will find the work just as absorbing as in this one.
Thank you; that's very nice of you to say. I'm happy you found it interesting
Your humility is as impressive as your skills. The painstaking detail work really paid off in a stunning and unique result.
im not a wachtmaker or jeweler or nothing, but holly mama, i absolutly love the wacht you made.¡¡¡¡¡ thanks from spain
Thanks for watching! Hello from Prague
Thank you so much for making this video! I've been wanting to make a dial that is similarly complex, and being able to see someone do it and point out the potential problems and how much work is involved, is incredibly helpful. I definitely underestimated the time and work required to clean up the mill work. Having a 3D printer for templates and fixtures is also something I'm going to have to do. Really impressed with how well this turned out. This looks nothing like a first try - Really lovely looking watch!
Thank you, A 3D printer is helpful for this sort of thing; it's not 100% necessary, but it will save you quite a bit of pain and suffering. I'll have another dial video out at some point; it's a hard thing to do but I believe it's in reach of anyone who wants to put a bit of work in. Good luck to you wit yours
Cool, definitely more of this!
I'm working on it 😀 I need to sound prof my CnC a bit or ill be sleeping on the dog bed lol
If you're going for a brushed surface, you should use scotchbright instead of sandpaper. Sandpaper leaves a very inconsistent finish, with deep gouges that really stand out. The scotchbright pads are much more uniform, and will produce a far nicer satin finish. They come in different grades. Typically you would use the green pads for a brushed satin, or the grey (fine) pads for an even more satin look. They are not very expensive, and you can find them at most hardware stores. You can find the green pads at any grocery store. Just make sure it's the flat green pad, and not on a sponge or something like that.
They are inexpensive, so I would really suggest just picking up some of the green pads when you see them, and give it a go on something to test it out. I think you will find the results are excellent. We use them in my industry for finishing work on stuff that costs thousands of dollars. There are a bunch of different types of scotchbright pads, but for just finishing the green or grey should be fine. They do also make tools with these pads on them. So if you were to try a sunburst pattern, that may also work. Though I couldn't say for sure, as that's not something I've ever tried.
Love it!! Best wishes from Limerick Eire.
Thanks all best from Prague :)
Thanks!
Very nice of you. Thank you!
I’ve recently stumbled upon channel, and I have to say your cool British humor together with your knowhow is very appealing! I would like to see more of the “doing it yourself” content!
Thank you! 😃I'll be making more in the future. Glad you liked it
Well David, I never subscribe, but your skill, humour (launched into the Swiss space program) and your soothing voice made me log on to the medium and subscribe. This is rare for me. I personally have just started tinkering with watches and broke a LH threaded screw on my first attempt at a Ricoh watch that I have fallen in love with. Its brown dial raised chapters and raised Ricoh logo that puts a smile on my face. I have yet to figure out how to get the screw out, which of course led me to watch your whole video. Bravo chap. You have some seriously good skills. Now I'm off to watch your other collection of videos.
Thank you. I appreciate that. Alas broken screws are not uncommon, you could try one of these: www.cousinsuk.com/product/screw-extractor I think they have them on AliExpress for even cheaper than this one, if you don't mind the wait.
Fantastic
You taught me so much!!!
You are such a great teacher
Words cannot express my many thanks
I truly believe I have learned more on this video that any of the other of the hundreds of overhaul and service videos that have seen
My complements for your superb efforts
GK
Wonderful! Thank you I'm really happy you got so much out of it.
Very informative and entertaining.
Wonderful job!
Amazing work !!!
I love your “Learn by doing” style. I’d love to see what you can do in a year or two with a bit more experience.
Well hopefully you'll be able to. Thanks for the kind words
I like your homemade watch dial. 😊
Thank you!
Amazing results!
Love this!
Pretty cool what you can acheive even with very basic tools. It may not be absolute perfection, but as you said, to master a craft, you have to start doing something, or you'll never improve and get better at it. It's really looking very good for a first try, and knowing what you would do better or different the next time is important too. Honestly i would not have expected a low cost chinese cnc to be able to make anything useful at that tiny scale.
It's pretty cool what you can do with limited equipment, glad you enjoyed having a look at my efforts
Nice! Yes, please do more dial making stuffs! Thx!
More to come! Glad you are enjoying the videos
Very nice !!!!!!
My gift to you is this...a watch innards are a mechanical marvel but the dial can be an expression of the artist within and need have NOTHING to do with precision.....only beauty.
Thank you I appreciate that, Maybe one day i'll manage both.
The dial looks good. I, too, like to learn and build “things” to keep my mind occupied and one thing I have learned is the simple fact that the more you do it - the better you get at it. I say keep it up and you can only get better! So, go do more.
Wow, incredibly nice job. Inspirational
Thank you very much!
Great video, I was glued to it from beginning to end. As far as your channel, viewers will always want to see content creators push to the edge of burnout for their entertainment while they sit comfortably in judgement. Do what you are comfortable with, I suspect it will be entertaining no matter what you decide to pursue.
Thank you. I'm happy you enjoyed it. I expect you are correct; if I just did what the audience wanted, I'd probably end up doing a restoration while skydiving.
I enjoy your lighthearted, self-aware, self-deprecating approach to your work. Especially because your work is so F-ing precise and well finished.
Thank you, sir. I am glad you are enjoying the content. I put my trousers on one leg at a time, the same as everyone else :)
that was bloody awesome. Thank you
You are welcome glad you liked it :)
I don't know why but the keyless works are the gear system hardest to get my head around, It's the different plane I guess. Love every watch repair video I've ever seen. My brain must be trying to say something.
Give it a go if you don't already; it's fun. It's not that expensive to get started, either, as hobbies go.
This is the first video I see from your channel, and I have to say that you've thoroughly earned a sub. Thanks for the engaging content! Having said that, I think that a laser cutter would be a much better option than a 3d printer for dial prototyping.
I gotta be honest, it looks sick and reminds me of ww2. The strap is awesome and i think watches that look "homemade" have way more charm. Super cool. Id definitely buy something like that and wear it often
Thank you! I appreciate that I put a lot of work into that dial The amount of different techniques and things to learn is more than you'd think. I'm glad you liked it.
Absolutely Fantastic! The best thing that I have watched in a long time. I was totally riveted to the screen. I am so glad I found your channel and I will be an avid watcher. Your narration is also fantastic as is your workmanship. I also have been a watch collector and am a newbie to watchmaking. It is really interesting to me. Great stuff and long may it continue. Thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind words
Amazing video as always, was laughing the whole way through, I love it
Glad you enjoyed Thanks :)
It came out nice , good job !
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome!!
I love your wit and sense of humor! Nice work
Thank you kindly!
Nice job !!
Thanks! Exceptional production. I really enjoy all your videos, your humor, and skill. I too 3d print and have made some accessories for watchmaking. Great job on this. Get yourself a few pints on me.
To generous, sir, thank you! As it happens, I was just about to order some new filament, so I will indeed have a few prints on you! Thank you. Probably some pints as well :D
The dial certainly looks like it was made in 1952 USSR factory ;) great work mate. Pleasure watching
Glad you liked it. I appreciate the kind words
Please, please, please make more of these!!!
Will do thanks for watching
As one of the three, thanks for providing the technical details! One thing I was curious about is the two screws holding the crown wheel down. I feel like they should be flat head screws with a taper on the underside to match the countersink in the wheel's plate.
Budget cuts mate, flat bottom screws only, In truth, this watch was pretty mix and match; the dial, movement, and case were from three different watches, so it's plausible.that someone just used some screws they had lying around.
Cool video. When you get the upgrades on the CNC you could cut the dial feet on the CNC using a jig/fixture, same goes for the indicators for the dial. basically cut then on both sides. you should cut the feet first and then you can use the feet for refence using a nother jig/fixture with holes in it.
Good luck on the next one, and please share it too...
Thanks for the tips I'll take any help i can get with this :)
The work put into the video, not to mention the guts of the watch, made for an enjoyable experience. The dial making was great to observe! My congratulations on creating a unique looking timepiece!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Regarding the indexes - machine the feet into them from thicker stock. Design the feet into them in CAD, flip the z axis in CAM and machine them from underneath. Perform an adaptive clear with a 1mm endmill leaving 0.2mm radial stock (zero axial), then perform a 2d contour on each post to get to correct diameter. Cut each index out with a 2d contour, finish by hand.
Thank you. That sounds like it will take some working out, but it is doable. I'll take all the help I can get when it comes to machining.
Russian-language speaker here. Yes, your pronunciation of 'pobeda' is excellent; even the soft /e/ was pronounced well.
Thank you I do try and get the pronunciation correct; I'm just normally not very good at it.
Jewellers saw frame - straight lines - either angle handle forward and saw tip back towards you so you can see where the blade is going and rotate handle to keep going along your straight scribed line or - use a thicker blade 😊
Thank you again, i'll take all the help i can get :)
one more tip if you use silver always always always make all your bits and pieces and sand and polish all your file marks out until its shiny and smooth - and then solder stuff together. Corners are a bitch to sand and polish marks out of once assembled. Do all that work before assembly so its polished where you can't easily reach. I would often work on watch cases replacing pocket watch hinges and catches and bracelet snaps. I love watches and I've finally bought myself a vostok amphibia from the 80s so I'm learning about oiling to keep it tip top. Disassembly looks daunting but doable as long as nothing is broken or damaged. I've subbed so ill throughly enjoy watching you till it arrives. Take care
That's a lovely finished dial
What a great channel. Fantastic commentary. Brilliant craftsmanship. Wow. Please more dial making.
Very impressive. Well done. Thank you for sharing.
I had to chuckle at the end when I saw how good it looked.
You might have had a bigger laugh. I almost got the chapter ring upside down. I was pretty nervous during the final assembly. After trying for so long, I think I'd have just said it's all the rage among the kids and left it at that lol
It was wonderful watching you figure things out as you went along. I'm certainly not going to critique your dial seeing as how I've never made one and you have. you ended up with a wearable working watch and that is just cool. Good job.
Thank you i'm happy you enjoyed the journey.
Fantastic.. I loved watching.. Truly an incredible piece of art.. I loved the watch.
Thank you very much!
Hi David, I'm extremely impressed by your work, this is amazing to try like this and to keep going. Love it, continue like this, this is what we like.
Thanks, will do! Glad you liked it.
Groovy man!
Thank you!
wow! great job making your own dial and straps. Curious if you will make a see through one. love seeing what watches do... the workings.
I'll make a display case back for sure. Thank you for the kind words.
Looks awesome!!!
Dial making is a very interesting topic and there is not a lot of infirmation on the surface abiut it. I would love to see more of it!
I will be doing more for sure hopefully with better processes once i learn myself :)
I think it looks really cool. Thanks for showing your process. If I ever try to make a dial for myself, I'll likely think about some of the techniques you used. It seems daunting for several hours of work, but I would be very pleased if my first dial came out anywhere near as nice as this.
Thanks I have been getting some advice from professional dial restorers now. So I hope the next one will have some more techniques for you to try if you decide to give it a go
WOW! I would be happy to own and wear that watch. I would be even more happy if I made the watch face. Thanks for the hours you put into repairing the watch and making the face.... and the many many hours of video editing that it takes to make a video like this.
Thanks for watching! The editing is a bit of a nightmare lol
Wow, that was nuts in the best way. Really awesome result especially because your printer is so reasonable. Terrific video, especially because the concept of “can’t do” doesn’t exist here. Thanks.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it.
This amount of effort you have put in to give this time piece a new lease of nice is incredible. This is a fantastic job done!
Thank you
Fantastic first dial attempt David! I can't imagine the hours of work, in all of the different disciplines, that you have your busy hands in. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next.
Thank you; hopefully I won't disappoint!
Honest to God, I think this design is incredibly striking. I love what you've done.
Glad you like it! Thank you for letting me know.
I've fallen down a bit of a rabbit hole watching these videos. I know next to nothing about watchmaking. But watching this video in particular, I can imagine those guys that started brands like Rolex and Seiko building their first watch. Telling themselves the same things as David was here: "This is only my first attempt. There are people out there much better than me. I have no pretence of being as good as them, but I do my best" etc. To get good at something, you've to be at least prepared to suck at it first. (Not that this watch was bad at all - it's great.) But having that initial mindset, being prepared to acknowledge mistakes and improve, is what learning any skill is about. I'm sure those first pioneer had every bit as much Impostor Syndrome when they started out. And look at what they built.
Beautiful ! Fantastic dial job !
Thank you very much!
this video is a piece of art
Thank you glad you liked it.
An idea brought to reality. Unique. Something you can be proud of.
Thank you, sir. Happy new year to you!
You are incredibly talented. Keep up the amazing work.