Viganò & the Catholic Church: The Latest News with Dr. Robert Moynihan & Fr. Murr
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Luke 8:17... for all that is hidden and secret will be revealed ! Amen.
In spite of the "powers of the keys", the concepts of interdiction and excommunication have been totally abused throughout history. Only God knows if someone has de facto excommunicated himself.
Thus we really can't say Vigano is excommunicated
This is simply Bergoglio's opinion.
Those who feel Bergoglio is the oracle of God are sadly mistaken.
The powers of the keys is something very serious like speaking "ex cathedra" and not something to be trifled with by angry prelates!
From Dan Parker in Regensburg.
@@urbietorbicommunications I support your work. Ave Maria 🌹
We've had altar girls in Australia in the last 50 years. In fact I've been a lector and a special Eucharistic Minister till God opened my eyes😢. Now attending Latin Mass🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Deo Gratias! God opened my eyes as well. I now attend the Latin Mass.
My family and I attended the Traditional Latin Mass and could never go back to the Norvos Ordo Mass. Since Covid we have been very awake to the corruption in the church, governments, etc. I pray for Archbishop Vigano daily. I believe one day he will be considered for sainthood. What a brave, wise, faithful, and good man he is. Thank you for sharing his website and for another great show today. God bless you both.
@@kimberlihahn6648 I began attending TLM 10 yrears ago. I used to drive an hour to an hour 1/2 to go, and I bounced around because they were all around the same distance. I found one that started a few years and only about a half hour away. Love it! It’s Cathedral-like, absolutely beautiful, great priests, wonderful, faithful, like-minded community.
Unfortunately, I’ve been having heath issues and cannot drive or hitch a ride with anyone because they don’t live near me. It’s too hard to drive even locally. So back at the local N.O. It’s okay, the Lord has me detaching from a lot this past few years. He knows how much I love it, but assuming He’s preparing me for something, so embracing it. Where Jesus is licitly is all that matters!
Please get Archbishop Vigano on the show. He needs a forum to speak his side. I will pray for this to happen.
Agree. Fully
Is this about that thing that is pointing at the star.is this something to do with that? Is Satan in residence?
To not laugh
I am a regular listener from Brussels but I never seem to be able to catch you live. Absolutely love it when you get together with Father Murr. We learn so much and I do be much appreciate your sober and well-informed analysis.
Hurray !! Fr Murr I wish I could meet you and be with you all in this upcoming pilgrimage , maybe next time. God bless you all ! Stay clear we all are learning so much ! 🙏🏻
Greetings from Peru! I (a cradle Lutheran and American expat) find your podcasts immensely helpful in my journey toward Catholicism. Keep up the good work! Bendiciones para ambos!
Thank you, Robert & Father. Appreciate you so much. Prayers up. 🙏
Glad Fr. Murr said a lot of things I have been thinking.👏👏👏👏👏
Right on Father Murr!
I love you, Father Murr. I think you are one of the most special Priests. It's been the privilege of watching and listening to especially on the Joe's morning show and on Live site news. Your sense of humor your kindness, your closeness to Jesus Christ, your wonderful sense of humor, your willingness to help people. struggling in their faith.You will always be special in my mind and my heart, Please never change.......Love you just the way you are....Thank you for your Priesthood Prayers always..❤️🙏
G'day folks from N.S.W Australia 🇦🇺 praise God for the SSPX for preserving the Catholoc liturgical traditions and priesthood. Praying always for good priestly vocations and a return to the sacraments and conversion of all schismatics (especially protestants), heretics.
Thank you Robert and Fr Murr! I so appreciate your comments on the TLM! ✝️❤️🔥🙏
Gentlemen, thank you for an exhilarating discussion. I look forward to your weekly posting. God bless you, Robert Moynihan and Father Muir. Ave Maria!
A Catholic Deacon.
Your deeply touching discussion brought to mind, Christ’s immortal Words,in answer to the Sad’ducees lawyer “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” And He said to him” You shall love the Lord, your God , with all your heart and with all your soul,and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And the second is like it, you shall love your neighbour as yourself.On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.” It would be a good reminder to the faithful to put these words on the notice board inside our churches!
God bless you both from Sydney Australia ❤
God bless this program from Australia
Hello Fr. Murr,Dr. Moynahan, always learn so much from you. Thank you from Kingston,MA.
Thank you, great conversation. I agree with Father Murr, I wish the Vatican would answer the questions posed by His Excellency Arb. Vigano that many Catholics have as well.
Hello from Ireland. 🙏
their have been 33 Catholic Churches closed down here in Newfoundland Canada , communities are trying to buy them back ! they were built and maintained by parishioners for generations
So sorry I missed the livestream. Thank you both so very much, I love listening to your insights. Dr. Moynihan you are looking as though you are feeling better. Prayers from Illinois, USA.
❤Peter B from Sydney Australia
Greetings from Syracuse NY 🇺🇸
Take it one step further we are now in fear and distrust of each other!!!
I agree with everything here, and it is good to discuss it, as many will learn from the discussions. But the reality remains is that those in this Pontificate (and many clergy around the world) have a different view altogether of Catholicism, from worship to doctrine, pastoral care and beyond. It's a different "color" of Catholicism. We are at an impasse, and only God can fix this with our prayers and lay people involvement.
God Bles from Lutz Florida!
Good day and blessings from Auburn, Alabama.
Hi from County Meath 🇮🇪👍🙏
Love and gratitude from Jalisco, MX
Saludiños from A Coruña Province, quite close to Santiago de Compostela, but closer to
A Coruña.
Thank you for your words. I shall give them much thought and pray for Holy Mother Church.
Greetings from Dallas, Texas
Greetings from Slovakia🙏
Plymouth, Massachusetts. Thanks for all you do
Enjoying your talk from Bitterroot Lake, Montana😊
Good afternoon from New Brunswick, Canada.
I recently found your channel, and I have been enjoying listening to your shows. From Western PA in the USA. I also recognized quite a few of the magazine covers that you put up on the video before the show starts. I might even still have one or two of them! Cannot make it for the pilgrimage, but it sounds wonderful!
I thought that because Vatican 2 was a non-binding, non-dogmatic/non-doctrinal, “pastoral” council, then it’s perfectly in keeping with the tradition of the Church for Viganò to reject V-2.
Yes and to be honest to be true to Vatican 2 doesn't actually mean to adopt all the chnages that were not even approved anyways. German and Dutch Bishops are the main ones who introduced the Eucharist on the hand and girl altar servers and and such amd so if we are to be true to factual church history we are obligated to reject all thise perverse practises that have no place in the church and never had any approved and were snuk in. Let's not be hoodwinked ked any longer and kick let's freemason heretics out when found to push back on the return of Tradition
Greetings from Doneval Ireland
Hello from Northern Virginia!
Just a suggestion.
Would you consider selling tickets online for a raffle, with the prize being a place on one of your pilgrimages?
It could be a great blessing for the lucky winner who might otherwise never be able to afford to go on a pilgrimage.
Pax Christi.
Regarding the Latin Mass, I think as Michael Matt says, resistance has slowed down any new document.
Greetings from South Africa
Thank you for this video.
Adveniant regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua secut en caelo et en terra.
Joining from Buford GA 🥰
There will always be the "Voices" calling out in the dessert; and Archbishop Viganó, Father Malachi Martin, brave priests and prayerful humble everyday souls living "Authentic lives" -- ARE struggling against the demons, and working toward "Union With God." But each of us was given our own Conscience as an integral component of "Soul" and I too, do not anticipate Suicide, if found dead. But please God, grant my Conscience DISCERNMENT as I walk this life toward YOU, my Creator. 🙏 🕊️ ❤️
If priests were told it was a mortal sin to say the TLM they were lied to weren't they? How can you believe people who have lied to you?
Some outright lied, some may have been mistaken. Those who lied will have to answer for it.
So much ambiguity for so many decades that has worsened. Only God, with our cooperation, can save the Church, and it will be saved, but it will be brutal for awhile. Although, we can mitigate to some extent by praying the rosary.
Thank you for your content 🙏✝️❤️
Hello from Borneo!
He is part of the True Roman Catholic Church funded by Our Lord.
Fr, Murr is so right! We are collapsing as a church not only by the church having to pay all the legal problems but now they are not standing for the priest either. Why persecutee priests and parishioners that want to stay close the teachings and reverence of our Roman, Catholic and apostolic church. This confusion that they created the exudes of the people. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
So much ambiguity for so many decades that has worsened. Only God, with our cooperation, can save the Church, and it will be saved, but it will be brutal for awhile. Although, mitigation to some extent with praying the rosary.
Concord, Calif.
My conclusion on Vatican II is, since it was stated publicly by Pope John XXIII before the council. That the intention was to be pastoral. And since Bishop Baron has said it was mostly a doctrinal council. The doctrines of the council are unintended and failed to engage the magisterium on any level. If you as a priest state publicly before Mass you don't intend to change bread and wine to the Body and Blood of Christ, it does not change during Mass!
Fr. Gregory Hesse argued a council is called to correct error, define doctrines, and condemn errors. Vatican II is the only one called without that intention, so it lacks the proper intent to be a valid council! (Some councils never got around to doing that which they were called for). He said Vatican II is more like a synod of bishops, then a council! Fr. Hesse went on to say, the bishops of the world were wined and dined for dinner (super), then given the documents of the council to be voted on the next day. They were told it was custom to vote as the pope was voting. They were told they are not dogma but pastoral documents and were not infallible, so their arms were being twisted so to speak, to vote in favor of them. Do you think one or two bishops read the 16 documents before they voted for them? Could you read them some night after super and after drinking two glasses of wine, and let me know how that goes for you? Are you familiar with Cardinal Ottaviani when he spoke at the council, how he had the mic turned off on him. How the pope made those running the council apologize to him? A pastoral council that is mostly doctrinal, how is that not a bait and switch scheme? Having said that, you know no Traditionalist is denying any authentic Catholic teaching reiterated in Vatican II. You know we accept more of the council then the liberals do.
The Church has always wiped books from our memory that contained just one error. The only need to correct the council is for the good of the faithful. But the faithful are now mostly lost anyway, so throwing it out all together, rather then correcting it, would not create anymore damage! Let's be honest, that's where we are at!
It's a sin for us to be purposely ambiguous, so why were almost 100% of the bishops of the world, as well as a pope and popes since the council, willing to be ambiguous? It's justified Catholic shame, that should be moving Catholics to discard this council, composed in sins of ambiguity as well as bait and switch sins! Can we in an attempt to defend that which we think is Catholic, knowingly defend sins of ambiguity and bait and switch?
You are both admitting what Archbishop Lefebvre believed, the new Mass is dangerous to the priests who end up forgetting what being a priest is all about!
Fr. Murr, does error have a right to exist if it comes from a pope and is not corrected by a cardinal or a bishop? Not only do I have a right to correct you my superior. I have an obligation to do so. You have both a right and an obligation to correct erroring bishops and popes. The cardinals and bishops are only 1st in the order of that obligation to correct an erroring pope.
Yes. We each have a right and a duty, commensurate with our abilities, and in defence of our Church, to correct and admonish our Superiors, our Equals or our Subordinates in the Church.
We are the army of defenders of the Catholic Church.
Jesus expects nothing less from us, and Canon Law obliges us.
'Canon Law 212:
§3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the RIGHT and even at times the DUTY to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to THE GOOD OF THE CHURCH and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons.'
And indeed, Mercy alone obliges us.
Three of the seven 'Spiritual Works of Mercy':
Admonish the Sinner.
Instruct the ignorant.
Counsel the doubtful.
The Second Vatican Council did not condemn international Communism or even mention it, in an agreement between the Holy See and the Soviet Union in order to have Russian Orthodox observers present, Surely, one would think that the greatest threat & enemy of the Church & mankind (Communism) would have been condemned.
I agree!!! I too no longer think lay people should distribute communion. Nor should they handle the sacred vessels.
And definitely they should not touch the sacred host.
Should read more from malachi Martin
Unfortunately, I have not experienced a Traditional Mass and have only known the mass after Vatican 2, but, what the present pope has done since he became pope goes against what I feel in my soul, and I cannot accept what he does as being inspired by the Holy Spirit. Bishop Vigano's words resonate truth even though the terms he uses are not easy to understand as a regular layperson.
Luke 8:17... "For nothing is hidden that will not be disclosed, nor is anything secret that will not become known and come to light.Amen!
everyone says a 2000 year history , time stands still? I've been hearing 2000 years since I'm been born and I'm now 69 ! the 2000 years is not changing!
Gentleman, thank you once again. In a recent utube interview (7-13-24) Bp. Athanasius Schneider, fielded a question (read from the host of the podcast) from a women discerning to be Catholic. Her question:"In order to become Catholic, must we accept Vat II and the "new Mass?" Bp. Athanasius responded w/ the following, taken from the transcript, and my edits, given his accent in English:
"No, to be a Catholic you have to profess the faith (of) the Catholic faith, the dogmas. And even before the council, the church only asked in the so-called Profession of Faith, a long list to specifically to accept the [those] dogmas infallibly taught. And therefore, [the] Second Vatican Council did not propose any Dogma [new dogma] or definity (sic) teaching at ...only more pastoral teachings. We are not obliged as Catholics, strictly to be Catholics, to accept specific only pastoral teachings. We have to accept the magisterium as such and the reigning Pope, that he is a valid Pope, and the office of Peter and the papacy, and so on, but not specific teaching which has not the guarantee of be [being] infallible which has not the guarantee to be a definitive teaching. But (um) and therefore, and the nov order [Novus Order] we have not to accept to be Catholics, because it contains some ambiguities, and the church cannot obliged to accept ambiguities.
We have to, I repeat, accept the authority of the popes who made the no mess (New Mass) but they remain the pope nevertheless, but in this case did an error (uh) it's not a heresy, the new Mass, but some ambiguities, and therefore, you can be a a true Catholic not accepting the new Mass. well you have to you must as Catholic say and this requires the all see accept that the new mess is valid, this you must of course, and it is valid. And so, and even Archbishop Lefevre accepted the validity of the New Mass when it was celebrating according the books, the liturgical books, so in this case yes.”
Hope this helps...
Talk about ambiguity! That's is what I cannot understand when the Holy Mass has been reduced to a caricature of what it was from 2000 years, why is it not emphatically condemned . Heck, till a few years ago the words of Jesus in the consecration of the Blood of Jesus read ' for you and for all' then one day it it changed to 'for you and for many' so who answers for that glaring mistake that was deliberately put in. Mark my words one day tbe SSPX will shine, and I hope the remorse from all its detractors will come in thick and fast. God bless Archbishop Lefevre and the SSPX for their unwavering stand. God sees the intention of the heart, he saw the intention behind the actions of Saul before his conversion, and He knows that unless those men were ordained Bishop, the TLM would have been wiped off the face of the earth, and we would have been in the soup we are spiritually many decades ago. 😢 the very fact that the Pope's in the past have disregarded the words of the very Mother of God at Fatima should mean something sinister. Yet we are to blindly belive what mere man has created to be the Sacred form of worship. Look at how they have watered down the Sacraments. All I can say is God help us all.
The excommunication of Archbishop Vigano is unjust. We are supposed to be united in communion with our hierarchy AS VICAR OF CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES... NOT in their human fallibility and pride.
Questioning the issues and ambiguity of Vatican II documents needs to be addressed. Why is questioning the Council so bad? The documents may not be dogmatic when there is room for error of interpretation, as we have all experienced in horror over the last 50 years.
I want to question the entire body of doctrine about Mary, from the Ephesus 'council' onwards - I suspect there is much distortion of the truth. 🙏
Please clarify your statement
Please put in a link for the quote from St. Thomas Aquinas about suspicions not being a reason for excommunication.
I have to mention our lady of bayside
I have been resisting the pope since Amoris Laetitia. Also he has lost his credibility especially when he did not answer the Dubia. However, I do pray the rosary for him everyday.
Thank you so much Fr Murr. I am your greatest fan!
The Genoveva, Pope Francis did answer the dubia! They just weren't pleased with his answers. Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!
I shall stand up and say, it may be best to ponder Benedict's resignation. One may ask as to the wisdom of his resignation - it was not wise IMHO. I think the Lord intends a pope for life, I think it very rare, to the point of "inadmissible" - to pick a wonky oddly flexible word of our time, so wonderfully adorned with many flexible connotations.
I, personally, have felt rather inadmissible, even at mass, often at weddings, and certainly in my political views, like an Eskimo in the Sahara. Nonetheless, I think the completely evident diabolical intrusion into the church and the extra strength version in the world, is, aptly described as smoke. It has both a stench and an ability to obscure and confuse and divide and upset. The solution?
Don't let the smoke bother you, God will clean it up in His time. Stick near Our Mother. She's tall enough to see over the smoke. Pio had it right: Pray, Hope and don't Worry! Can you dig it fellow babies! - I am channeling Dr. Johnny Fever there for you, WKRP.
Now, where was I sitting in this leaky boat? Oh yes, between Our Lady and the guy sleeping in the back, that's where I sit, and there's room for you too!
At 28 mins when referring to John 23rd, it’s also prudent to consider that he was instructed by the Queen of Heaven through the Fatima seer Sister Lucia to reveal the third secret and defied The Queen of Heaven and subsequently convoked the council.
While we cannot judge his intentions, we cannot also ignore his actions and can make sound observations that his decisions, which he disbelieved the Fatima message, ran contrary to that message and we now see the results.
Thank you for today's show. BTW, you opening music is terrfic.
Put side by side, it is obvious which Liturgy is Superior. Is the novus ordo valid? In most cases yes, in some cases no. Regardless the truth will eventually prevail.
And 11S - 11M - What has been happening for the last at least 300 years.
The reason we are feeling off balance with the attempted assassination is simple. The ground below us spiritually is shaking continually and has for a long time - nearly 60 years. Many people not all - have refocused and started looking towards the government Nanny State. We know that didn’t do well with the Israelites. Read 1 Samual Chapter 8. Until we individually and collectively turn our hearts and minds and wills towards God, nothing is going to get any better. Scripture says he is a jealous God. That jealousy is for our souls. Anything that interferes with that - any appetite, desire, focus other than Him is in competition to His will for us.
Why do you keep confusing the spiritual with the political? The Catholic Church has been completely monopolistically dominated by the school of Ressourcement since the opening of the council.
We have had decades of thoughts and teachings put out by a series of popes that were essentially neophytes as a school of thought.
And with Paul VI and Francis this is more political than it is spiritual. That is why there is a masonryesque preoccupation with the world, the flesh, and politics.
I am not at all confused that the Church is doing anything, because I’m aware that men like Francis are total political animals.
It is helpful that they are not dogmatic and don’t believe in dogma and are modernists because they don’t touch the Deposit of Faith directly. They just walk around it and skirt it using pastoralism like a heresy.
I knew Pope Francis would take punitive action against Archbishop Vigano. The only surprise is that it took so long since 2016/2018.
Valid councils can teach error when not teaching infallibly.
Because the corruption is that deep.....that is how it is invalid.....
Please, let us not think naively about Bergoglio and company.
With all due respect Dr., I suggest you read People of the Lie by Dr. Peck. I don’t think you truly want to believe what you see.
All I can see is an impotent priesthood led by bickering old men blundering along with no purpose! A wise priest in our local church, though quite a modernist, told us the following anecdote:
The Church leaders gathered at the Vatican to confer on doctrinal matters. The Holy Spirit was passing by and heard them debating. He put his head round the door and asked: "Would you allow me to join in the discussion?" He was told: "Can't you see we're busy? We don't want to be disturbed!"
Regarding whether the Vatican II Council was Pastoral or Authoritative in its teaching (Dogmatic), Pope Paul VI stated:
"But one thing must be noted here, namely, that the teaching authority of the Church, even though not wishing to issue extraordinary dogmatic pronouncements, has made thoroughly known its authoritative teaching on a number of questions".
(Address of Pope Paul VI at the Last General Meeting of the Second Vatican Council, 7 December 1965).
This being so, a Catholic in good standing cannot withhold assent to the Council's teaching nor refuse submission to its authority & authoritative teaching.
Very few claim that the Second Vatican Council is an ‘invalid council’. Many point to the INCONTROVERTIBLE truth, however, that the Second Vatican Council does not, and CANNOT, take precedence over the infallible doctrinal and dogmatic ecumenical councils that preceded it. The Church did not suddenly appear on the Earth after December 1965.
Your position implies an equivalence between the ecumenical council that took place between October 1962 and December 1965 and the infallible teaching of ecumenical councils that preceded it. This, simply is not true. Not even the statement of Pope Paul VI can change this.
The men in positions of authority, influence, and power in the Church for the past fifty nine years have attempted to reimagine, reinterpret, reinvent, and remake the Church, the liturgy, the magisterium, and Almighty God, Himself, in their own image.
And THIS, my dear @dariusclovis1374, is not only heresy, it is anathema.
One can discuss the issue of the Second Vatican Council from very different perspectives. The incontrovertible truth is clear: one judges the tree by its fruit.
The tradition of one thousand nine hundred and thirty two years before 1965 has born rich fruit.
The chaos and confusion that has beset the Church since the close of ‘The Council’ is poisoned fruit.
Poisoned fruit commands neither obedience, nor submission.
And there it is.
Did the Pope comment on the attempted assassination? If so, i missed it.
Gosh if you only knew the true story of Pope Bergoglio........
I don’t want to know! I can just imagine!
I truly believe there is a fake Paul vi
Yes ‘ the stone cutters are controlling Bergoglio and the papacy ‘ agree 100%
Of course it’s not valid
Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! As lies were told of Jesus Christ at His trial,so too even now of Pope Francis by modern day elders! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!
Just LISTEN to what Francis says and has said! He has said that the Ten Commandments are "not absolute". How is that "faithful" to Church teaching? What gives him the right to undo Church doctrine? He can't, because he does not have such authority.
@anng.4542 You obviously have never read any of the encyclicals of Pope Francis or his morning homilies! Pope Francis teaches the 10 commandments are not limited to the surface of them, for we can kill someone through gossip and slander, and we can commit adultery by not being faithful to God and those around us! As lies were told of Jesus Christ at His trial, so too even now of Pope Francis by modern day elders! Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture!
@anng.4542 you obviously have never read any of the encyclicals of Pope Francis or his Biblical commentaries! Pope Francis teaches the 10 commandments are not limited to the surface! Pope Francis teaches we can also kill someone through gossip and slander! Pope Francis teaches we can also commit adultery by not being faithful to God and those around us! As lies were told of Jesus Christ at His trial, so too even now of Pope Francis by modern day elders! Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!
@@anng.4542 You obviously have never read any of the encyclicals of Pope Francis or his Biblical commentaries! You are in my prayers as you journey toward Truth! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!
I'm from mn .I'm sick of this mn nice attitude. It's a fact of how we Catholic s have been running away from the church since Vatican 2 ABVigano is correct . I came back 3years ago but I don't know if it was the right decisions .
Unfortunately, most people steer clear of standing the high moral ground, like Viganò, for fear of being cancelled or targeted.
You don't know if embracing the Truth was the right thing? Really?
V2s job is to make Jesus just a “thing” not useful along with the Holy spirt- you see… the antichrist can’t come onto the scene while the Holy Spirit is still restraining them back. When nobody believes things are going to get wicked, you will see evil you have never seen evil worse than any horror movie someone has seen.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
The young ones who are coming out into the world experiencing life are finding that they are filled with the Holy Spirit and they’re seeking it out, The “traditional mass gives them that golden thread of Jesus connection that nobody else has.. it’s like walking in the coolness of the garden talking to God.
He is Excommunicated!, what are u talking about?😅
Yes, unjust and absurd as it is, that is what has happened to Archbishop Vigano.
Watching from central Illinois.
Fr, Murr is so right! We are collapsing as a church not only by the church having to pay all the legal problems but now they are not standing for the priest either. Why persecutee priests and parishioners that want to stay close the teachings and reverence of our Roman, Catholic and apostolic church. This confusion that they created the exudes of the people. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻