IBM Selectric Typewriter Return Cable Tabulator Rope Installed Main Spring Wound
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Another video showing how to replace carrier cables/rope
This man makes a good job. One who understand deeply how the machine works. Congratulations
too bad he's an asshole
@@michaelg4901 He's putting all these videos up and sharing his expertise for free, which will allow future generations to see how these repairs are done. How's that being an asshole?? He doesn't have to have patience for you if you ain't paying him 🤷♀
Thank you for sharing this knowledge. Both Selectric repairmen in our area passed away and my machine needed repair. Without you it would have gone to the landfill 🙏🏽
Nice -- I had to do this once when the cord popped off somehow, and it took like 3 hours or more. Didn't have the hand crank or service manual back then (this was 2008 or so), just studied a working machine to compare. But man, realized I needed forceps instead of the needle nose I had, and made stiff hooking tools out of paper clips, lol. Helps to have the right tools! The thing that took the longest was figuring how to keep tension on the cords so everything didn't unhook and unravel. I was swearin' up a storm during the entire procedure, but it worked again after. Since then I found a repair store in my area to keep my selectrics tuned up properly.
Thank you for this. I'm a computer tech, but we will take a stab at fixing anything if the customer pays the diagnostic fee. I spent several hours trying to figure out how this thing is supposed to work, and why it wasn't, and after getting those cables off I had no clue how I was going to go about getting them both wound back around that thing. I should have searched the issue here in the 1st place, as I would have saved a ton of time had I seen this video 1st.
Great work and thank you ! I was an IBM typewriter tech in the early '80's and I just needed to watch this because I just bought an old Selectric III to recondition, (don't ask why, I just did! ) with just this problem and you brought it all flooding back. Thanks again I can now continue the recon!
I would like to add a little note.
When attaching the cord to the right side of the carriage,be sure that the tail end of cord at the connector loop is towards the rear.
Otherwise,if it's in the other position,
it can hit the frame as it passes through the frame at the extreme right and knock the cord off.
Yea I did breeze right over that, and yes I have seen those cords come off if they catch the right frame just right, I was explaining this to an old school IBM tech (my ex-business partner) like 25 yrs ago, he didn't believe me, well was not long after that when he had a machine knock the cord off twice, I told and showed him again, this time he was a believer.
Considering this is the exact repair I need to do, thankful for this man ❤️
Thanks for this. I finally found a Selectric III locally but it had a broken return cable. I did try putting a new end on it but came up with the shorts at 29 1/4". I made a new one from some nylon covered fishing leader, it's a little stiffer than the original but I think it'll work for my occasional use. Made it 29 3/4" which is a little tight I think 30" between the stops is the correct length.
Love the videos I have bought an ibm selectric 2 and all the things that are ring with it you perfectly describe and help me with! Keep up the good work,
Fantastic video, thank you very much for these!
22:48 Fitting the tab cord on the drum caused me the greatest conundrum. I was expecting the steel loop bent end to go onto some sort of hook (like the other end, on the carrier). I could not find a picture anywhere on the net of the end of the tab drum, to see the expected hook arrangement. Also perusing all the downloaded Selectric service manuals I had did not show this end. Using a dental mirror from my Dad's 1960s IBM CE toolkit didn't help much, I still couldn't see a hook. I tried hooking the metal loop onto the 'spike' of the drum helix, that didn't look right.
Took me a few hours to realise _there_ _is_ _no_ _hook_ . The metal end goes into a recessed annular groove in the back face of the nylon drum, with the bent metal going into this curvature. The cord is retained NOT by the hole in the end but by virtue of the cord pulling against the helix spike, unable to pull the metal end around the spike. This end might have been designed better as a crimped block instead. The hole in the bent end piece was a giant red herring for me, it really threw me off.
Yes, this always seemed like an odd way to attach this style cord.
If there are any plastic parts to the selectric you can no longer find, i will happily model replacements and send you the STL files so you can have them 3D printed.
I have a Selectric II myself and have had an issue there the rightmost carrier pulley exploded when i turned the machine on. I've created models that hold up better than the originals. Though, we'll see how things go with the test of time.
I can even 3D print the belt.
Thank you very much for this great video - it saved my day 😁. Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
Wonderful job! He's the best.
Need a tip jar so I can pay for the helpful guidance! Thank you Duane!
Tip Jar link is in the description, or you can go direct rushjensen@aol.com
superb video. So much information and clearly presented
Thanks for this video guide on how to thread the cords! It was really helpful for the Selectric repairs.
On a side note, do you know where I can find replacement part for the tab cord pulley and springs?
So, full disclaimer. I worked for the IBM Office Products Division from 1974-84 as a Sr. CE essentially responding to customer service requests for all kinds of IBM equipment including all IBM selectric typewriters.
The video points out to symptom very well and tells you correctly the general area where the return mechanism is located. However, clearly it won't be enough as this particular problem will be a recurring one unless the latch is either replaced or filed down and then adjusted per the repair manuals to overthrow
by .010”.
Just my $0.02 worth.
Hi Dwayne,
Thanks for the great video. I was able to successfully reassemble the tab and return cables but unfortunately the hook where the tab robe attaches to the velocity assembly broke off entirely after some light usage. It looks like a previous owner attempted to pry this part and weakened it to breaking point. Do you have a guide for replacing this part? I understand that this is likely a big job but I am more than up for the challenge. A creative alternative solution would also be welcome. Unfortunately I am in the UK so I can't realistically have you replace this part.
Cheers.
Muito bom! Sei muito bem como é isso pois fui tecnico dessa maquina aqui no Brasil... abraço
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Fantastic!!
Thank you so much!
any chance you have a picture where the two ropes attach to on moving carriage?
I have a Selectric III (or rather a 670x because I'm in EU) and that exact rope is a little loose, it's not snapped in half or otherwise damaged, all keys work except backspace and correction. When I manually tug on the rope and press backspace/correction, they work as normal. Would following this video tighten that rope back up and return the machine to a working condition?
Yes it should, here is one way to adjust rope tension
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@@phoenixtypewriter2136 That should be exactly what I have been looking for and it seems simple enough to perform, thank you very much!
Ugh. I'm having a rough go with the tab cord replacement (the original was split in two). I'm starting to think I purchased the wrong cord length. Is there a way to confirm cord length when I don't have any original labels on the machine? I do have an IBM Canadian version, if that matters. Thanks for sharing all these videos, they make this task seem slightly less complex, haha.
Yes there is a database showing lengths, but I don't have it, but the Selectric repair group on FB does
These IBM technicians have the answers here, facebook.com/groups/gbtwshop/?multi_permalinks=2860785167378716
Putting the switch in backwards would be a bit of a dirty trick, for an unknowing user ;)
Well my fifth Selectric III has a broken return cable. The cable itself isn't broken, but that metal end that attaches to the pulley slots, has gone missing. Is there any way to fix the cable, bacause in Europe is a bit difficult to find selectric parts... Like pressing a new end if I can find something similar? But I don't think that it will withstand the tension.... Thanks in advance
End usually pull off from return clutch needing rebuilding, old oil ceases clutch pulling return cable with violence
Seen a few modified ends before, common to tie a small knot, cable will be shorter, but can be compensated with proper adjustment
Do you have any recommendations for an electric royal Apollo 12-GT that’s letter keys and number keys don’t work, but all the other keys around the outside work?
Sounds like the main belt is broken, have you checked that ? Since there are no belts available for last 20 years,
I throw these models in the trash when they come into the shop.
Only electric typewriter from the '70's that still is serviceable are the bulletproof Smith Coronas, See Link Below
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I have attempted this repair, however i have a problem. The carrier has moved all the way to the left. The tab cable still isn't attached and what's worse is, it won't reverse. The return cable is incredibly tight and i need to back it off. Everything is locked up tight.
Sounds like the return clutch is engaged pulling carrier to left.
Great video!
I took both ropes off the machine, but now I have a problem. It just keeps returning (meaning the return drum is spinning left and constantly engaging the clutch), how do I stop it? I don't think the keyboard is stuck.
Push margin rack to the left to disengage return clutch
You should also be able to press Tab to end carrier return
@@phoenixtypewriter2136 Thank you so much for the quick response!
Unfortunately that didn't make it stop returning. But thank you for the response regardless, it is greatly appreciated! I'll say it again, these videos are fantastic, thanks for taking the time to upload them!
Have a good one.
@@phoenixtypewriter2136 UPDATE: I was cycling the machine in the wrong direction as the last action was a shift action that I couldn't power through. Now that I quickly flicked it on, it is cycling normally!
Hello, I'm also trying to put my strings back together by following your video step by step, the problem is that I have a couple of pieces that I don't know where they go, unfortunately I can't send you the photos here. one is a spring and the other I don't understand what it is. Wouldn't it be possible to write them via email? A thousand thanks.
Hello, my time is rated at $100 an hour, can't really help without effecting my daily work load
Try posting on the premier IBM Selectric repair site, I'm also a contributor there with limitations
But there are a couple retired IBM techs that have the time for this, facebook.com/groups/gbtwshop
@@phoenixtypewriter2136 A ok, thanks anyway but I decided to throw it away because I couldn't put the ropes back on.
Those main springs hurt when your grip slips and they start unwinding lol
I watched this just to remind myself how great it is to not be repairing those beasts, nice home made half cycle tool btw
Muito bom! Sei muito bem como é isso pois fui tecnico dessa maquina aqui no Brasil... abraço