Ehh Plaguebearers out shine Warriors in many cases, Bloodletters and exalted bloodletters definitely have a purpose, same with Horrors. Slaanesh Demons are probably the least used but the BoB are one of the most powerful RoR's in the game despite their cost.
In most cases I don't think it's really a pricing issue. If daemonic instability just didn't mean instant death and was more akin to undead crumbling most daemonic units would be reasonably good. Though there is still some unit specific jank like slaanesh chariots not doing enough damage and flamers consistently shooting over their targets.
@@jaredkronk4614If you look at that initial fight, the Khorne Warriors traded evenly into the Bringers of Beguilement in terms of gold value, even with Acquiescence on them. Having bad armour is a **huge** weakness.
kinda disagree with you, i struggle way more with bloodletters making their value then the deamonettes cause deamonettes can flank cause they have the speed for that so their paper defense doesn't mater then as mutch. bloodletters are made of the same paper but they can not flank aswell@@jaredkronk4614
ProfPwn is the hero of the people. Forever burdened with the curse of Surtha Ek ever since that campaign he agreed to play with Turin. Perpetually flanked with chariots and benny hilled with faster infantry and skermish cav.
Fact of the day: Heartseeker's of Slaanesh are a cav unit that costs 1400 to use and have less 37 less health per model than nurglings, an infantry unit that costs 350 gold. That's two elven arrows of hp less or two thirds of a rat slave's life in difference. Although those swift Steeds of Slaanesh may be made of styrofoam, they'll still ruin your day if they don't get nuked by magic and can reach your backline. Great content as always Turin, thanks
I mean in some parts definitely, although no chatrooms. That sounds like a nightmare trying to have any moderation. I just also don‘t want them to focus on mp tooo much and not forget sp. But yeah, especially ui (and some more balancing) would be so cool 😅
@@alphaviki7987Being able to talk to your opponent without having to use a 3rd party program would be nice, it makes quick battle almost unusable. But the kiddies might see some naughty words :(
8:48 Daemonettes will not out trade bloodletters. Not even close actually. They're an exceptionally weak unit, mostly down to having genuinely terrible WS. 32 is lower than every mid tier GW unit in the game, including Bloodletters before considering the BvI. The unit has a decent initial performance with the high CB of 30 (same as bloodletters) but they have no staying power even before considering all of the Daemon weaknesses. Would be the worst unit on the Slaanesh roster if chariots weren't basically non-functional as a unit class. Exalted Daemonettes are fantastic, but considering what you get on the upgrade normal Daemonettes are basically never worth it.
I think Daemonettes really slept on, starting out with chaos warriors and then calling them in for fast cap weight is really solid, if you've got a grind going on a somewhat isolated point, Daemonettes are perfect for that.
Turin have you tried using an overcast Doom and Darkness with a discourage artillery like the screaming meme catapult? Together that's a -32 to leadership
A thing quite interesting in this match, everything is dead actually dead x) And actually it make room for slanesh to navigate the battlefield and use their speedy units very well
Don't use the hellflayers like war sled from Kislev. Use their speed and run in behind or to the side of a unit (when you saw the issue of squishyness, you charged in to the front with another unit). The hellflayer will activate the flanking buff Slaanesh gets and they're a cycle charge unit.
"Slaanesh is not going to be fighting fair, one will be going in from the front, the other one from the back... perhaps" (˵ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°˵) Skarbrand: 💀 A lot of Khornates were castrated post fight.
Great vid Turin, just for the future marquis is pronounced mark-wiss, not marquee - that's a big white tent for weddings and farmers markets 😂 Couldn't stop chuckling every time you said it haha
slaanesh's near-universal AP is great against Khorne, one of the few factions that can't punish them at range seems like a great situation to be in. feasting
Impact damage aside, how much does that chariot charge disrupt the target unit's ability to do damage? Seems like getting punted out of formation would effectively be a -damage debuff for a while.
I don't even play but i like these videos ( im poor, cant afford food let alone a expensive gaming PC, $5000 bare minimum. And no i can't build it myself)
Why not build one yourself? If you've ever experienced lego or any kind of manual work you'd find it surprisingly easy. PCpartspicker off a Google search is a great way to find a build that suites you. They give price ranges and search all the reputable sites like Amazon for pricing. The mother board will have a manual that tells you what and where you need stuff plugged into and there is a plethora of how to vids on YT here. Many local shops will even put the PC together for you or even help you do it on the cheap. My recent build with a 13700/4070Ti didn't cost nearly $5000 and I live in Canada were prices are stupidly gouged.
Hey, Turin. Ever played Age of Mythology or thought of playing it? Just saw Grubby playing it recently and remembered that game (it is getting reforge in the nearest future).
Turin I need you to do some proper testing with chariots and cav brotha. I've been playing very hard very hard campaign my whole life and a hellflayer direct charge through a khorne warrior unit will atleast take a quarter it's all about making contact while the charge animation is active. They can't be left in melee for more than a second and I mean a second but if u click off to early it cancels the charge animation and u don't get damage off. It's WAY too micro intensive for multiplayer but the value trading is best in the game
Also I beat skarbrands turn 5 bloodletter stack with 5 chariots and 4 archers by cycle charging skeleton chariots I mean specifically against khorne its very viable
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The trouble is, how do you extract them from the flesh hounds once caught? Flesh hounds are very sticky… which Slaanesh is usually into. But not when it comes to their chariots 😂
Hellflayer needs straight up about 2k additional health. A unit like that is a massive target and has so much space on its body to be hit. It needs tankiness of some kind to compensate.
Poor Skarbrand, the Keeper of Secrets came at him from the front and Azazel came from behind. Just as Slaanesh wanted.
And the RoR daemonettes from bellow.
It’s a shame the fact that Daemons are so overpriced makes Monogods look like “pick your color of Warriors of Chaos”
Ehh Plaguebearers out shine Warriors in many cases, Bloodletters and exalted bloodletters definitely have a purpose, same with Horrors. Slaanesh Demons are probably the least used but the BoB are one of the most powerful RoR's in the game despite their cost.
In most cases I don't think it's really a pricing issue. If daemonic instability just didn't mean instant death and was more akin to undead crumbling most daemonic units would be reasonably good. Though there is still some unit specific jank like slaanesh chariots not doing enough damage and flamers consistently shooting over their targets.
@@shiggydiggy6847 Perhaps the upcoming airborne flamers will rectify that by shooting downwards.
@@jaredkronk4614If you look at that initial fight, the Khorne Warriors traded evenly into the Bringers of Beguilement in terms of gold value, even with Acquiescence on them. Having bad armour is a **huge** weakness.
kinda disagree with you, i struggle way more with bloodletters making their value then the deamonettes cause deamonettes can flank cause they have the speed for that so their paper defense doesn't mater then as mutch. bloodletters are made of the same paper but they can not flank aswell@@jaredkronk4614
Man, I do wish that armored Slaanesh wasn't so meta. Demonic Slaanesh is just so exciting to watch.
Whatever is meta usually gets boring at some point, thats why you go with stuff that isnt meta - because its fun and different.
That gooning of Skarbrand was beautiful
He started to crumble at 3.6k+ HP, Slaanesh did him dirty.
Its a Slaanesh army, there are always some "pretty nuts" involved.
Take your like and get out
That chariot charge into the bloodletters was very satisfying
ProfPwn is the hero of the people.
Forever burdened with the curse of Surtha Ek ever since that campaign he agreed to play with Turin. Perpetually flanked with chariots and benny hilled with faster infantry and skermish cav.
That wasn't pwn! That was Italianspartacus!
Damn that was trully a lose for Khorne, almost no blood was spilled.
No, there was blood spilled, just not so much slanashi :/
@@stephenpiper2690 That what I am saying, too little blood was sheed.
@@florians9949 Khorne doesnt care whos blood is spilled.
Skarbrand got owned, that's good enough for him
@@fourthknower9831 Khorne doesn’t give two crap about Skarbrand actually.
I would love to see what Slaanesh is capable of when used by a master of micromanagement
They would quickly decimate the opponant. Slaanesh rewards perfection after all.
Fact of the day:
Heartseeker's of Slaanesh are a cav unit that costs 1400 to use and have less 37 less health per model than nurglings, an infantry unit that costs 350 gold.
That's two elven arrows of hp less or two thirds of a rat slave's life in difference.
Although those swift Steeds of Slaanesh may be made of styrofoam, they'll still ruin your day if they don't get nuked by magic and can reach your backline.
Great content as always Turin, thanks
Heartseekers have less weapon-strength than exalted daemonettes too
man total war really need to revamp the online experience of this game, chat rooms, better UI etc
I mean in some parts definitely, although no chatrooms. That sounds like a nightmare trying to have any moderation. I just also don‘t want them to focus on mp tooo much and not forget sp. But yeah, especially ui (and some more balancing) would be so cool 😅
@@alphaviki7987Being able to talk to your opponent without having to use a 3rd party program would be nice, it makes quick battle almost unusable. But the kiddies might see some naughty words :(
Man this feels like how Slaanesh should play, with careful but powerful charges and unit manipulation.
8:48 Daemonettes will not out trade bloodletters. Not even close actually. They're an exceptionally weak unit, mostly down to having genuinely terrible WS. 32 is lower than every mid tier GW unit in the game, including Bloodletters before considering the BvI. The unit has a decent initial performance with the high CB of 30 (same as bloodletters) but they have no staying power even before considering all of the Daemon weaknesses. Would be the worst unit on the Slaanesh roster if chariots weren't basically non-functional as a unit class.
Exalted Daemonettes are fantastic, but considering what you get on the upgrade normal Daemonettes are basically never worth it.
4:27 Classic Slaanesh goin in from the back
I think Daemonettes really slept on, starting out with chaos warriors and then calling them in for fast cap weight is really solid, if you've got a grind going on a somewhat isolated point, Daemonettes are perfect for that.
Turin have you tried using an overcast Doom and Darkness with a discourage artillery like the screaming meme catapult? Together that's a -32 to leadership
A thing quite interesting in this match, everything is dead actually dead x)
And actually it make room for slanesh to navigate the battlefield and use their speedy units very well
My favorite fight to watch In a while. Fun micro and off meta comp always a good time.
that was wild !!!
Can't wait for ToD . It cant fail considering the new amount of content per DLC
I'm so happy Azazel worked! Favorite of the mortal lords we got.
Can't recall seeing a dom battle with so few units
Don't use the hellflayers like war sled from Kislev. Use their speed and run in behind or to the side of a unit (when you saw the issue of squishyness, you charged in to the front with another unit). The hellflayer will activate the flanking buff Slaanesh gets and they're a cycle charge unit.
Exalted daemonettes are so good… I love them. Great fight!
"Slaanesh is not going to be fighting fair, one will be going in from the front, the other one from the back... perhaps" (˵ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°˵)
Skarbrand: 💀
A lot of Khornates were castrated post fight.
Was just seeing the match where your malekitch got killed by the BoB, would love to see a monogod sft (maybe khorne or slaanesh)
Great video Turin! I really appreciated the tactical analysis and breakdown of the game! GG! 🙂
Great vid Turin, just for the future marquis is pronounced mark-wiss, not marquee - that's a big white tent for weddings and farmers markets 😂 Couldn't stop chuckling every time you said it haha
Finally! Someone playing slaanesh the way the dark prince intended!
Can we get some FFA battles?
Seconded
slaanesh's near-universal AP is great against Khorne, one of the few factions that can't punish them at range
seems like a great situation to be in. feasting
Any chance you can play Slaanesh more Turin? Cuz that was quite entertaining!!
Love these demons only games, would be great to have them for all Chaos gods!
This first engagement is TOP TIER om Soo perfect
That was freakin awesome
How thematic would it be if khorne would get a massive WD and MA attack buff when rampaged. cause that is what they wanna do :D
Impact damage aside, how much does that chariot charge disrupt the target unit's ability to do damage? Seems like getting punted out of formation would effectively be a -damage debuff for a while.
I don't even play but i like these videos ( im poor, cant afford food let alone a expensive gaming PC, $5000 bare minimum. And no i can't build it myself)
Why not build one yourself? If you've ever experienced lego or any kind of manual work you'd find it surprisingly easy. PCpartspicker off a Google search is a great way to find a build that suites you. They give price ranges and search all the reputable sites like Amazon for pricing. The mother board will have a manual that tells you what and where you need stuff plugged into and there is a plethora of how to vids on YT here. Many local shops will even put the PC together for you or even help you do it on the cheap.
My recent build with a 13700/4070Ti didn't cost nearly $5000 and I live in Canada were prices are stupidly gouged.
Great play! Is there any chance we might see another Grand Alliances Tournament in the future btw?
Hey, Turin. Ever played Age of Mythology or thought of playing it? Just saw Grubby playing it recently and remembered that game (it is getting reforge in the nearest future).
Can you please show the full build before cast start, with reinforcement included?
>Daemonettes will outtrade Bloodletters head-to-head
*Sad Khorne noises*
Well why not
9:56 Hellflayers doodoo ok damage
I have never seen Skar, deleted like that
I've never seen Skaarbrand last more than 5 minutes into a battle. I've never seen a more vulnerable lord. Sad.
Tsk tsk, back to beating up on Pwn I see :D No wonder he tries to backstab you in free for alls and the like!
I think bloodletters win usually in a straight 1v1 with demonettes. They take so much damage though that I feel it’s kinda a wash.
Doesn't Skarbrand make his enemies rampage as well?
I think he has a times ability that confers rampage in an aura around him.
Turin I need you to do some proper testing with chariots and cav brotha. I've been playing very hard very hard campaign my whole life and a hellflayer direct charge through a khorne warrior unit will atleast take a quarter it's all about making contact while the charge animation is active. They can't be left in melee for more than a second and I mean a second but if u click off to early it cancels the charge animation and u don't get damage off. It's WAY too micro intensive for multiplayer but the value trading is best in the game
Also I beat skarbrands turn 5 bloodletter stack with 5 chariots and 4 archers by cycle charging skeleton chariots I mean specifically against khorne its very viable
Man, watching Khorne geting bodied in melee is just so sad. Interesting build and really solid play nontheless!
Cant wait to see you try the new DLC units. *cough* Saytang *cough*
Do people not really send you replays? ;(
I feel like 5 people play the game from these vids lol♡
Good vid
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Ain't gonna be the one to ruin it!
you cant leave a chariot unit against fleshhounds and then complain they are dying
The trouble is, how do you extract them from the flesh hounds once caught? Flesh hounds are very sticky… which Slaanesh is usually into. But not when it comes to their chariots 😂
the 2 most mid factions face off!
2:02 Wait why is skarbrand not good against that daemonbuild? Imma noober.
Hellflayer needs straight up about 2k additional health. A unit like that is a massive target and has so much space on its body to be hit. It needs tankiness of some kind to compensate.