Labour's Free Speech Attack to be Challenged + Should Reform & Tories Merge? + Australian Trans Law
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- On today's #NCFNewspeak, NCF Director Peter Whittle, Senior Fellows Dr. Philip Kiszely and Rafe Heydel-Mankoo and Stand Up To Woke's Amy Gallagher discuss:
Labour wants to reverse court and Conservative government decision not to record non-crime hate incidents
42% of Conservatives want to merge with Reform
Australian Courts landmark Trans verdict is a threat to women's spaces
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Stop voting Labour and tories
I'm convinced they're basically the same party, just giving people the illusion of choice
@@_Area-51 how did you come to that conclusion
@@JulieMalone-oy1ll by watching them for the past 40 years
@@_Area-51agree - Blair was the heir to Thatcher, Cameron was very much Blairite. Same underlying philosophy and economic policy - neoliberalism + globalisation. With new Labour, you had a veneer of progressive socialism, but it was pretty thin. With Tory’s you get austerity and loud anti migrant talk. With Starmer, we’ll get rebranded austerity and less anti migrant talk, but the differences are minor and superficial
@@Anonymous56657ad hominem
Reform should definitely not merge with the Tories!
How about the Tories merge with Reform instead?
Provided Nigel and Reform Lead The Coalition !!
@@JohnChalmers617 The Reformative Party?
@@mkaz3997 perhaps? What's in a name? A rose would still smell as sweet.
@@mkaz3997Conformatives.
Starmer called me Far Right - that's a hate crime and should be recorded as such.
He also knowingly spread misinformation!
Which, could be argued created the shocking scenes seen in Birmingham.
Seems, he’s exempt from his own laws.
That part of the Online Safety Act will show itself to be unworkable before long.
i don't recall starmer saying anything about @coolhand 1966; you are delusional.
@@leofoley634i don't recall him mentioning many names at all, only calling atleast half the country far right, just for being worried about something.
@@theant9821 when did he call "at least half the country far right"?
I voted for Reform,not a rehashed Tory party. No thanks.
I agree....shysters all....
I agree. To hell with the LibLabCon Uniparty. We've had more than enough of their collective nonsense.
@@gerainthall1941 Well ... truth is ... the past is the past and if we were PAID to care about it you know, well we'd be talking like Farage and Boris Johnson and ALL the ones are PAID members of the profit-led traditionalists. But if not paid, to hell with the past traditions.
@@keplermission4947 what are you waffling about?
@@keplermission4947 Reform is more than just Nigel Farage. And I am sure he knows this. If he joins up with the Tories, he will be abandoning the Reform movement.
Starmer should be charged for a hate crime for calling people far right when there aren’t which has cause harm.
I am ashamed that the, 'so called' leader of this once great nation does not understand the meaning of words in our vocabulary. To call me a far right Nazi, is both an oxymoron (the word Nazi is derived from the Nationalist party and everyone knows that the nationalists are left wing) and insulting/hateful speech.
I complained to the labour party and so far NO RESPONSE
I think it's a great idea
@@janlesinski4719 And people say its not 2 tier!
Is it is mostly the working class people who have taken to the streets to protest. Many of them traditional Labour supporters? Im a New Zealander who is looking on in horror at Britains slide into Tyranny led by its government and Barbarism led by undesirable immigrants.
Reform should not risk being dragged down to the level of the consocialists!
Even Facade doesn't use that ridiculous slander anymore. Should b obvious even to you RUKKERS that Labour is an big state Woke authoritarian social engineering party that Facade helped into power, and the Conservative and Unionist party is not. Grow up. This is serious.
Reform should not merge with the Tories whilst so many one nation liberalists exist within the party. Merging with the Tories would be political suicide and leave millions in this country politically homeless again.
Not a chance will that happen
I agree though it seems the word liberal gets used in the wrong way sometimes. Liberty and freedom usually go together, but using liberty as an excuse to be unreasonable and oppressive doesn’t fit sometimes.don’t mean to be nit picky, take this with a pinch of salt (untaxed) I’m a Libran :)
The Tory party actively went out of its way to attack the British people and destroy us in our own land. Why give them a second chance when for the first time in many, many decades we have a chance at building a party that is for us?
Support Britain First if you want to defend Britain from totalitarianism .
Starmer is the worst prime minister ever
Most evil…
@@oysterman250 And God Almighty knows competition is very strong in that discipline. Up the Irons Brits !
I'm coming up to 77 years old, and in my considered opinion, this plank is the worst Prime Minister in history.
Karma's a stunt.
The only conclusion I can come to is that Starmer is deliberately trying to destroy Great Britain. There isn't a single policy he has introduced since he came into power that will make things better. Every policy is negative. He is an out and out communist and if you look right back into his history, he always has been. He is an extremely dangerous man!
If Reform merges with the Conservatives, they will be removed, candidate by candidate until only the Conservatives remain and Reform UK is completely gone. It would be catastrophic for Reform UK and would only benefit the Conservative Party.
Absolutely! It will be a repeat of the collaboration government between the tories and the Liberal dems in which the LD's were silenced whenever they pointed at their manifesto promises.
I thought you were talking about migrants taken over Britain 🇬🇧 . 😊
Why dont they set up an electoral pact to go into govt together reform can have their manifesto and conservatives theirs
@@paddiocheIndeed, we are so fixated on a particular party 'winning', we've lost sight of the idea that that's not how it works. The idea is that some member has an audience with the Monarch to form a Government which can command some form of majority within the HoP. There is nothing to say that this 'majority' needs to all be in one party. There's little to stop Tice going to the King with a small minority and saying that he can command a majority with a hand-picked set of ex-Conservatives.
Reform would be crazy to embrace the failed Tories!
REFORM UK > NO TORIES EVER AGAIN
Or Labour
RESTORE UK:
RECLAIM the power
RESTORE the laws
RESTORE our nation amd our HERITAGE
If you merge the parties, reform will just end up being watered down and eventually turn into the current Tory party.
Nope the media are talking rubbish The Conservatives are dead and Reform are on the up
Tories who want to merge with Reform should leave the Conservative party and join Reform. Otherwise there will be no trust that they won’t stitch up the country again.
I wouldn't trust them if they did. They have proven they hate the British people.
REFERENDUM ON MASS IMMIGRATION
I disagree. Reform letting in ANY Conservatives would be like a Trojan Horse. They would destroy Reform from within and take over to resurrect it as another Conservative Party, to save their own skins and careers.
It's a no brainer. Keep them out and never vote Conservative or Labour again.
They are both history.......and the worst part of it!
If we want and need change to our political system, make it a COMPLETE CHANGE.
Not a RE-HASH. We MUST learn from our mistakes!
It matters not to me who becomes leader of the Tories. I will not vote for them again having done so all my adult life.
Same here.
At least it wasn’t labour mate hope that helps
Same here. Reform now for me 100%. Not going back. Feel betrayed and let down. Why should I trust the Tories again? Thank God for Nigel and Reform is what I say! 🇬🇧
Me too ✋
Farage is the best prime minister we never had.
If they replaced khan with Tommy R wed get our culture back. 👍👏👏👏👏👏🇬🇧
Better than Enoch Powell?
Farage is not a serious politician, but then again, not many are.
Yet !
some thought the same of oswald mosley.
Reform should worry about what Reform voters want, not Tories.
I frequently have to pinch myself to check if all this nonsense is real or just a horrible, sick nightmare
There with you! The nightmare has worsened since that Covid charade. Remember how keen Starmer was on lockdowns and masks, every time there was any relaxation or delay in measures by the government he wanted more, earlier and stricter.
His kind adored the dystopia! Our Chief Controller is now in his element!
@amarok5048 💯 agree
Welcome to the real world .
I know exactly what you mean
We are living in a NIGHTMARE!
You are. The rest of us are working around and against it.
If 42% of Tories think they should merge with Reform then they should have voted Reform, no to merger. By the way SNP previously managed to get plenty of seats as a one issue party.
42% of tories are watching their importance spinning around the plug hole and along with that, their cushy incomes.
Absolutely agree 👍
Yes, they did but there's no guarantee this can be repeated by any other party.
Labour are far left
Any far moronic
Communists
Disciples of Marx and Lenin
so are the tories.
Labour are a Californian type party. As Mr Mahmood of Perry Bar said "They have Bourgeoisie London elite in the centre and surrounded by Woke Warriors. They don't like the working class and will do nothing for them. Moreover, they are a party for students and Woke middle class.
Reform do not need Tories, who in my opinion would slowly poison the party and it's objectives, as they did to their own party.....no thanks, we doing good.😊
Nope not ever
Yes, this would be analogous to the dilution that is happening to the indigenous Br people.
We want a party that works for GB and it’s people in all four corners, not a headline party that are only interested in their own personal goals !
Why support a merger if Tories can just join Reform?
We’ve all witnessed the CONservatist form of reforming over the last 14 years. An Untrustable Party & 2Tier Labour is worse🤮
That's the same result isn't it ?
Please don't, we don't need bad apples spoiling the bunch
@@nemanjastankovic4439 no its not the same.
@@evolassunglasses4673 You mean Reform should be in driving seat ? That's the only way now sadly.
The tories wasted fourteen years so they are history now!
No merger ever with the Conservative Party. Reform can be a party for all people, past Labour voters because there will be plenty, past Tory voters who did not have the courage to vote Reform this time, the SNP etc & all disillusioned voters, plus those who have never voted before or bothered to vote. I voted for Reform UK alone.
No! No! No!
A few intelligent individuals with common sense - a glimmer of hope for the decent law abiding citizens here - thank you New Cultural Forum.
Starmer said that the rioters were far right - by implication, all of them, because he, without any investigation, did not distinguish within them.
Therefore, bring a charge against Starmer that he is guilty of a non-crime hate incident.
Reform only.
We need to stand together against all this non sense!! Looking forward to the Reform Conference!! 🏴🙏🏼🇬🇧✝️
Suppose we all start reporting anything we find hateful to the police?
I shall start with the hostile generalisations that Starmer makes about white workingclass folk.
👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🇬🇧
Reform U.K. (Ltd) must not merge with the Tories but continue its momentum and push to try and form a government in 2029. It needs to democratise right now and consign the Conservative Party to political history. Personally, I have far more faith in Ben Habib as I do in both Nigel Farage and Richard Tice, who’ve been very quietly recently on all immigration issues, as opposed to Ben.
Maliciously accusing someone of a hate crime is in itself a hate crime and should be recorded against the accuser including anyone who takes this forward from the police through lawyers and judges up to the government.
In an ideal world Reform should merge with the Tories to create a credible opposition to Labour. But I fear even that wouldn't overcome the wets and the civil service. Reform needs to get in and sort out the civil service. In the meantime it is not the violent protests Karmer is worried about, but that it would lead to mass revolution where he loses control. He is a really fearful man and that makes him dangerous.
It would just be 2019 all over again. The majority of the remaining Conservative Party are wets.
I think Starmer isn’t afraid that there will be a mass revolution led by patriots. I think he’s afraid that there’ll be a civil war and is trying to avoid that by clamping down fiercely on one side only. I think he fears mass insubordination from Muslim/immigrant communities and is trying to avoid it by pandering to them, which is a foolish and cowardly approach, but his thinking is short term and unrealistic.
I see stress and defensiveness in Starmer every time I see him speaking - or, in the case of the Southport visit, weirdly not speaking. I believe he’s struggling with his self image of having the Muslim/immigrant vote due to his support for those communities, because he has to wilfully not see that they’re already turning their backs on Labour and voting for sectarian candidates, running their own courts and becoming increasingly violent. He must know what happened in Iran and other places to the socialist allies the moment fundamentalists gained power .
@@SpeedfreakUK Yes, I expect they are, though probably many whipped to vote where told. The real problem is the Civil Service.
@@vicicooper4720 The men in grey??? There do seem to be many who think they are all the bosses and the MP's are just for show.
Reform needs to remain independent, it'll will just end up more of the same once its absorbed into the tories, this country needs Reform!
Reform doesn't need to merge with any other party, any true Conservative thinking person will join Reform in any event, the Conservative "Party" died years ago.
Reform For Me.🇬🇧 Nigel is great..
No no no look what happened when the Brexit party merged with the Tories…. Nothing!!
Britain is a police state. Thoughy crimes? I’m happy to leave
Thought crimes?
Go on Mr miller take cooper to court
I bloody love The New Culture Forum! 👍🏻
Nope.
What makes you think Reform want to merge with the Conservatives? They have failed the electorate, we do not need more of the same..Thats why we voted REFORM! We want a fresh direction with fresh M.P.s and Nigel Farage in leadership along with Tice and Ben Habib..the Tories had their chance..
Those 42 percent should join Reform!
They should 'ask' to join Reform. There is no guarantee that they will be accepted.
Let the tory MPs come over to reform, Reform never ever converge with the limpet tories
Couldn't care less if the authorities had a thousand cases of me committing non hate non crimes on record...would veiw it as a badge of honour that i was a proven free thinker.
If the police are not prosecuting what is now called 'petty crime' ie common assault/shop lifting etc just what level of real crime are they actually prosecuting.Has that level been defined now?
Give Reform a chance. Parliament has been closed. Once open, then you will hear opposition.
Offend away Rafe. This country needs you and say hi to Amy 👋👋👋🏴🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The vast majority will never be with this despicable government
Don’t forget the policewoman attacked at Manchester airport. Labour is hoping people will forget. We must not let this happen until the perpetrators are behind bars. Please mention it whenever you make a comment on social media, it is that important..
And the murdered three beautiful little girls innocently attending a dance class! RIP baby girls.
I am a former Labour voter who voted for Reform at the GE. If Reform sell out and join the Conservative party they won't be getting my vote.
Not a chance and well done Mr miller
If Reform and Tory combine it will open the way for a party further to the Right of Reform to be created and hoover up many many disenfranchised voters. We, the grass roots of the UK are no longer in the mood for that BS.
The Tories'd drag Reform over to the left. The Conservatives have taken on too much socialist & woke crap over the past few years.
Good morning to you all guys hope your all well thankyou godbless you all❤😊🎉 🇬🇧
4 True Brits
🙏🏼For This ✌️🇬🇧❤️💕
I want a far right party with strong traditional conservative values. No party fits my needs yet.
A party like that would not get enough support unfortunately. Its the only solution, to get back to the way things were you need to reverse the importation and deport. Never going to happen on the scale that it needs to be. Anything less is just delaying the inevitable outcome of the indigenous becoming a minority.
The Tories are a broad church. "TOO BROAD" Merging with the Tories would not be of any benefit for Reform or the Brits. I would be in favour of selective targeting of suitable Tory members into the Reform fold, but only if they conform to the Reform contract to the British peoples.
You guys hit on something crucial here; we are fighting for SURVIVAL against people who are irrationally committed to their positions, not only this but winning the argument isn’t enough when they operate all institutional & governmental levers of power!
Keep up the good work, boys and girls! 🥰
Great to hear more from the fabulous Amy this week. I always enjoy listening to what she has to say. Grounded and based, always.
If reform merge with the conservatives I will vote for ukip we don’t need them Nigel
Good luck with that .
Stop worrying. It will never happen as the conservatives are finished
These conversations are a breath of fresh air - Thank you !🎉
What happened after 2016❓🏴🇬🇧 - mmm, we had a Referendum. Yes the result is still ‘sweet Fanny Adams’ yes Zilch🤬 and 2Tier wants to rejoin⁉️ is it legal
Thank you NCF for these vital conversations, much appreciated.
No they shouldn't merge.
Starsi is the most loathed PM ever
Always enjoy this programme.
Just how many hours of police time did these ' non hate crimes' investigations take? As there are more than 120000 cases reported.
And how ludicrous is that term - “non crime”. This is what police are concerned with instead of real crime!🙄
I don't think Reform would accept a merger, perhaps an agreement on standing for specific seats instead, or an agreement on PR.
If Reform merge with the TorIes they will lose our families vote! I will never vote for Liebour or TorIes in my life again!
Standing Consetvative MPs can resign from the party and join Reform, ideally holding a by-election. Reform shouldnt merge or be seen to merge with Condetvative party
They need to resign from the Tory Party /before/ asking to join Reform. To have "continue being a T as a fallback condition" should preclude entry to R.
Maybe some cooperation but the Tories are tainted by failure on immigration and still have a lot of wets. Reform should steer clear of any merger until the direction of the new Tory leadership is clear.
I believe the tory leadership has shown for many years they have no intention of being “clear”. Any new tory leader will lie just like all the rest. Should Reform morph with the tory party, Reform will be swallowed and destroyed by the unrelenting left wing that has destroyed the tories from within. No merger, no tory wets.
I'm a former member of the Conservative Party and later the BNP and I don't want a Tory Party MK2 - which is what would result from Reform and the Tory Party combining in some way. I want a new party that has the best policies of the right and the left and which represents all sections of society.
Red wall mps should join reform party
It's a pity that the reform party did not get enough seats to get the balance of power, in the last election, if they did none of the two major parties would be able to pass laws that would burden the British public and keep the parliament accountable regardless who became prime minister and make sure laws are passed to protect the the public
This is a very good discussion. Many thanks.
Don’t put dog poo in clean water
@@Millidflange69 Excellent!!!
Well said .
Oh please gawd No.!! We all voted Reform but we were so focused on getting Riski Sunak out, we forgot all about Stammer’s ideology. Not long now - that fire Stammer petition should be ready soon..👍
Can't wait to vote No Confidence in that little HitlerII! He just can't stand criticism, can he?? You don't need to think too much to see that, the spoiled spratt!
Kier Starmer's Stasi party are a law unto themselves.
Labour revel in victim hood...
The Tory party is bigger than reform so a merger would just be voting for the Tories. I think not
Only Proper Conservatives should join Reform, I am a member , please join .
Sounds like wise solution.
It is the only way out of this mess
Starmer is the gift that keeps on giving for the Reform party🇬🇧 keep up the bad work Keir ……we appreciate it 👍
Why merge? We don’t want One Nation Tories. Why don’t the Right minded Tories leave and join Reform?!!
Isn't that the same thing?? I think that is totally up to Nigel and his 'staff', I will abide by them. ❤❤ They have got more sense in them than any of the big two's. 🎉🎉
I would like Labour to totally disappear into the ether, never to be heard from again, but don't suppose that will happen totally!
No one talks about our freedom of speech and debate under our very own bill of right 1689.
Article 9 says freedom of speech and debate or proceeding in parliament can not be questioned in any court or place out of parliament.
The little word "or" splits it into two parts. Meaning we all have the right of free speech.
Add to this the last part of the act of settlement which clearly states "the laws of england are the birth right of the people"
I rest my case.
No chance, they are the reason we have what we have now. I would never vote Conservative again, even if they were the last excuse for a political party on Earth.
Thank you Peter. I greatly appreciate the discussions you host.
I voted Reform to get rid of the Tories…. If they join together they’ve definitely lost me as a supporter and voter .
It will be the only way but on Reform terms and policies. Nigel to be leader!
Nigel please don’t merge
Labour are paving the way for Reform
Steer well clear of the Tories let them join reform after very careful vetting.
So when Starmer called the whole of
Northern Ireland rascist THAT IS A HATE CRIME. The Police need to check his thinking
If Reform join with the Cons they're done in my eyes!!
Being convicted of being frightened and suspicious of a certain thing, that's modern "Labour" the other cheek of the same derriere.
71 years old, was Tory voter never again. If Reform join the sinking Tory party I will never vote Reform
Never Labour, never CONservative.
20:46 How right the gentleman on the left was when he said the trouble only STARTED when men tried to act like women & invade OUR spaces. Condition/they WERE ignored.
I will walk away from reform if they merge with the Tories.
How compelling. No.