Brewing Brudiclad - C18 Deck Tech l The Command Zone 226 l Magic: the Gathering EDH

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  • @AffinityForCommander
    @AffinityForCommander 6 років тому +165

    I love this commander! A token deck that doesn't contain green or white!

  • @berzerker4598
    @berzerker4598 6 років тому +200

    Missed opportunity to call this episode 'Brewdiclad'

  • @shavedata5436
    @shavedata5436 6 років тому +15

    I'm sure you guys already knew this, but I wasn't sure so I looked it up. Anyway, something else cool about fairy artisans, you actually get all of your enemies etbs *before* your opponents on their turns, because the active players abilities go on the stack first and thus resolve last.

  • @jjcc8379
    @jjcc8379 6 років тому +101

    I've now realized that Brudiclad "photocopy" ability doesn't say "until end of turn".
    They stay that way.
    Oh.
    OH.

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому +7

      YUP
      My Myr child is perfect. He's really the compleat package. (Don't worry, he's just going through a goth phase)

    • @jakewood9514
      @jakewood9514 6 років тому +1

      I said the same thing

    • @StarfallShadow
      @StarfallShadow 6 років тому +8

      And it doesn't say creature token either. Any token, no matter what it is, is eligible to be copied. I once had out 23 gilded lotuses.

    • @tylercherry7424
      @tylercherry7424 6 років тому +1

      and you fireballed someone like a cool guy, or blue sunned for a bunch to lab man?

    • @StarfallShadow
      @StarfallShadow 6 років тому +2

      I actually made a bunch of token copies of Darksteel Juggernaut with Cogwork Assembler's ability, turned all the lotuses to DJ's at combat phase and swung for lethal at my other three opponents.

  • @berzerker4598
    @berzerker4598 6 років тому +8

    That coin riddle annoyed me enough yesterday that I sat down and spent some time working through it logically.
    This is what I came up with as a solution, assuming there isn't a bucket hole in my logic.
    The trackable factors here are:
    Which way the scale tips,
    IF the scale tips,
    What way it has tipped before (which requires you to keep track of which side each coin has been on in previous weighings)
    With those factors in mind, you can manipulate things so that you can remove multiple possibilities all at once.
    I tried this a bunch of different ways, but it really does not work if you are not able to eliminate at least 4 at a time.
    In fact, you have to eliminate at least 5 by the time you get to the last step.
    So...
    Weigh 4 against 4, leaving 4 aside.
    Note which way the scale tips.
    If it does not tip, it is one of the remaining 4 that were not weighed.
    If it is one of these 4, weigh 3 of them against 3 of the confirmed normal coins.
    If it does not tip, the one remaining is fake. Weigh it against 1 real to check it.
    But if it does tip, you now know whether the coin is heavier or lighter.
    Now remove one of those 3 and put it to one side, then weigh one against the other remaining one.
    This will tell you which of the 3 it is, since if it does not tip it is the 1 you removed.
    Assuming it was one of the 8, remove 3 more, 2 from one side and one from the other.
    Replace the unbalanced side with one definitely real coin from the previous step.
    Then swap two coins from one side to the other.
    If the scale balances out, it is one of the removed 3.
    You can determine which is the fake by weighing two of them against two real coins, making sure the two you
    weigh came from opposite sides. (this is important)
    If they are lighter, you know the fake is lighter AND which of the two it is based on which side it came from.
    The same is true vice versa for being heavier.
    If they balance out, the one removed was fake, and you know its relative weight from the side it was removed from earlier.
    If the scale SWAPS which side is now tipping, it is one of the two swapped coins.
    As above, weigh the two of them together against two real coins to find out which is the fake and its weight.
    If the scale stays the same, then it is none of the removed 3 and it is neither of the swapped 2.
    It is one of the remaining 3.
    And as above, we already have a method for determining which one it is from between only 3 options in only one
    weighing.
    Remove one, weigh the other two together against two real, not losing track of which came from where.
    Voila.
    Apologies if this is completely incomprehensible, I typed this up in a fevered madness at 4am to get it out of my head.
    Feel free to point out any blatant flaws in my clearly brilliant plan.
    :P

  • @shoroku1101
    @shoroku1101 6 років тому +3

    This episode really puts Josh’s brewing genius on FULL DISPLAY! Dj is so creative with creating synergies but Josh really focuses in on the practicality and focuses these creative synergies. Fantastic team work !

  • @gamefreak7ae
    @gamefreak7ae 6 років тому +13

    I know it might be kinda slow, but Phyrexian Processor can make probably the largest token by itself. If you're in that "alpha strike" position then it can easily make a 30/30 creature token to be your copy target for the win.
    Just a thought.

    • @divinityquartz3428
      @divinityquartz3428 2 роки тому

      dollhouse of horrors is another fun way to go big. The deck likes going wide anyway and it rewards you for it.

  • @Jeremy-yl2io
    @Jeremy-yl2io 6 років тому

    I was so surprised and impressed to hear this riddle here. I was exposed to this riddle back in the early 2000's when I was a child. It sat in the back of my mind for a few weeks before I came to the solution. This problem is so interesting. I have given it to many people I have met and have never had a single person put in the time or effort to find a solution. One disappointing reaction I have gotten from math majors is that they are confident they could solve it but refuse to actually try for more then a minute. Anyone who has stuck with the problem for more then even 15 minutes has earned my respect.
    I have returned to this problem on many occasions to pass the time, so it shouldn't be to hard to get a solution back down again.
    I was taught this riddle with golf balls:
    so, you have 12 golf balls and one weighs either more or less than all the others, we need to find the odd one out, and whether it weighs more or less than all the others. We have 3 uses of a balance to do this. Solving this requires branching out into multiple outcomes of the balance, so stick with me. Each number not spelled out represents one of the three uses of the scale.
    1- weigh any four against any four (leaving four un-weighed balls)
    IF BALANCED 2 - take three of the un-weighed balls and balance them against three of the previously weighed balls
    IF BALANCED 3 - take the final un-weighed ball, which we now know to be the fake, and put it against any of the other balls to find out if it weighs more or less than the others.
    IF UNBALANCED 3 - We know the fake is one of the three balls we have only used once, and we know whether the fake weighs more or less due to the second use. of these three take two and balance them against one another. This will tell us which of the three is the fake using the information we already gained (short cutting here for ease).
    IF UNBALANCED 2 - we now know the fake is one of the eight used on the balance. We also know that depending on which group of four the fake came form it will weigh more or less than all the others. This part gets tricky. Take two balls from the side that weighed more and one ball from the less side and balance these against another two from more and another one from less (a total of six balls, three on each side).
    IF BALANCED 3 - we now know the fake is one of the final two balls from the less side of the first use. balance the two against each other, the side that weighs less is the fake.
    IF UNBALANCED 3 - no mater which way the balance tips we have the fake narrowed down to three suspects, the two from the side of the scale that weighed more on both the first and second use and the one from the side of the scale that weighed less on both the first and the second use. Take the two from the side that weighed more both uses and balance them against each other. If the scales are even you know it is the third ball and it weighs less and if the scale is uneven you know it is the ball on the side that weighs more.
    I hope you enjoyed my solution. I love this problem. I hope Josh actually gave this riddle a shot instead of just reading the solution. It all seems so simple once you have the solution, but most people struggle to even find the correct first step ( a majority of people can't even think beyond putting 6 against 6). One big key to the problem is realizing that all the information you are gathering is useful, even the balls that you have confirmed are not fakes can be used. I like to think it requires creativity to solve this problem, but I am still not sure on that point, my experience is people just don't put in the time or effort once they hit the first real barrier in solving the riddle. There are alternate solutions to the latter branch of this problem, but this was the solution I originally found, and is still my favorite.

  • @paoloquate363
    @paoloquate363 6 років тому +5

    You guys have been really nailing these deck techs. Keep up the great work, I'm sure it's difficult posting so many vids at once, but you are doing great!

  • @bernardouziel6751
    @bernardouziel6751 6 років тому +21

    The new Karn that makes constructs that can get huge would be great in this deck.

    • @andrewlaverghetta715
      @andrewlaverghetta715 5 років тому

      This was from 6 months ago, but I definitely have a Karn in my Brudiclad deck for just such an occasion. I'm not sure how many artifacts I can have otb at one time though, since this isn't necessarily an artifact deck, but of course, if you can copy 10 treasures or some combination, and then make a Karnstruct...

    • @divinityquartz3428
      @divinityquartz3428 2 роки тому

      @@andrewlaverghetta715
      try dollhouse of horrors($0.36) in the deck. makes a copy of a creature in grave with the construct token effect and it gets to keep its own effect as well. i used it on a chief of the foundry($0.12) and it got really broken really quick with each token that enters giving an extra +2/+2 boost to all of the others.
      mimic vat($0.50) is another good one also. lets you cheese out a 3 cost version of something that died once per turn as a token so you can then have your token army be any creature in your deck. swarming goblins($0.01) is my favorite for this because you get its etb once per turn to make up to 3 more tokens. making it a pay 3 for 2-4 tokens a turn that you can then turn into 4/3 tokens with haste.
      and for the game breaker in a copy token deck like this: Academy Manufactor($5.25). if you use anything to copy this card into/onto a token and duplicate it at all you will have fun. if you just 2 of these out and make 1 of a food clue or treasure you get 3 of each for 9 total tokens. make just 1 more manufactor and that number goes up to 9 each or 27 tokens. a fourth gets you 81 total at 27 each! this card is the most expensive i have mentioned but it is so worth it for the pay off. i have gotten 8 out and made a clue from a trail of evidence($0.25) trigger before and had to double check my math because it made well over 6000 tokens.

  • @MrChristheWise
    @MrChristheWise 6 років тому +3

    Brudiclad is the commander from C18 that I am most excited for. I was pretty happy that many of the cards I picked for my deck overlap with y'alls

  • @E_D___
    @E_D___ 6 років тому +79

    I miss Jimmy but i will miss DJ...

    • @jaimevazquezjr.89
      @jaimevazquezjr.89 6 років тому +1

      E D he’s voicing in an animated movie w/ Jackie Chan and some other cast comes out next year

    • @maybeisuckatlife
      @maybeisuckatlife 6 років тому +2

      I will too but we can still watch him on his channel jumbocommander

    • @lanewright8032
      @lanewright8032 6 років тому

      What ha0epned to jimmy??? Is he not on the command zone anymore?

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ 6 років тому +1

      Lane Wright
      They said he is working on some project and will be back, DJ is replacing him for now

    • @thehermitdruid
      @thehermitdruid 6 років тому

      He is in the new Mulan movie.

  • @ashtongaskill3980
    @ashtongaskill3980 6 років тому

    Deck Techs are my favorite videos of this channel. Always awesome to hear your thought process and learn about cards I'd never seen.

  • @phagous1
    @phagous1 6 років тому +131

    Helm of the host on your general turn all tokens into him double your tokens each upkeep

    • @ZackSavage
      @ZackSavage 6 років тому +20

      Well that made my dick twitch

    • @Ravynsrage
      @Ravynsrage 6 років тому +1

      Oof

    • @DonovanPresents
      @DonovanPresents 6 років тому +6

      You can also make all those tokens turn into that helm token 😰💦

    • @flatline9737
      @flatline9737 6 років тому +2

      Donovan Simmons:
      no, i don't think you can, it's a legendary artifact.
      legendary rule

    • @seanbrown2201
      @seanbrown2201 6 років тому +8

      Helm token is not legendary, so yes, it could be copied.

  • @Nergal123
    @Nergal123 6 років тому +161

    4:32 When the Video Starts

    • @ThomasGail
      @ThomasGail 6 років тому +7

      MVP

    • @cultivatedjerk5574
      @cultivatedjerk5574 6 років тому +15

      Ild lyn I dislike adds and sponsorships, but I do believe that the command zone is a fantastic podcast, and I also believe that the team deserves to be compensated for their work.
      Skip the paid-messages if you want, but don’t call it bullshit if you enjoy having the podcast to listen to.

    • @tdank12
      @tdank12 6 років тому +4

      Thank you so much

    • @OBZEDAT
      @OBZEDAT 6 років тому +3

      my man

    • @fffan147
      @fffan147 6 років тому +2

      Thank you their shilling gets old

  • @TheUCuber
    @TheUCuber 6 років тому +54

    I'm amazed that Feldon of the Third Path wasn't mentioned in this episode

    • @zztoppinseve
      @zztoppinseve 4 роки тому

      I know right?

    • @AldoTorresblexaz
      @AldoTorresblexaz 4 роки тому

      I have a theory, not sure if it is correct, we'll have to test it.
      I think Feldon of the Third Part may not be on this deck tech because this video was made on 2018 and Feldon was first printed on 2019. Call me crazy all you want, but I may be up to something.

    • @DCxSkateboarding
      @DCxSkateboarding 4 роки тому

      @@AldoTorresblexaz definitely not. haha.

    • @adamrogers5286
      @adamrogers5286 4 роки тому +5

      @@AldoTorresblexaz Maybe you should’ve tested that theory before commenting then. Feldon was first printed in 2014, which you could’ve checked first.
      I’ll definitely call you crazy because the comment you’re replying to is older than you think the card is

    • @divinityquartz3428
      @divinityquartz3428 2 роки тому

      mimic vat is possibly better because it is colorless mana being spent.

  • @SweetSpawt
    @SweetSpawt 6 років тому +1

    Some of the first cards that came to mind when you were talking about creating tokens out of regular creatures were Splinter twin, Kiki jiki, and twin flame.

  • @samb123078
    @samb123078 6 років тому +15

    I’m not going to put any big creatures and just copy my opponent’s creatures and beat down with their own stuff.
    And how is mimic vat not on there? It was the first thing I thought of. And Feldon seems like a good fit as well

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому +3

      Mimic Vat is on the decklist linked in the description.
      Feldon would be great if you played more of a self-mill style of the strategy.
      I'm planning on some kind of hybrid deck between 2/3 of the legends in the UR precon. If I go primary Tawnos Self-mill (and other-mill), I'll run Brudiclad and some Goblin Welder and Feldon. If I keep in new Saheeli I can Saheeli's Directive the Brudiclad combo out via Improvising with all the tokens. Or I can mill->reanimate them with Tawnos and Feldon.
      The plan is to have a bunch of workable win-cons that fluidly synergize so they don't pull me apart chasing too many (Science) Dragons. Grindclock/Keening Stone Mill, Brudiclad Alpha, Mechanized Production.

    • @andrewlaverghetta715
      @andrewlaverghetta715 5 років тому +1

      @@Arvensa I'm definitely planning on playing with Feldon because I feel sure that something that I have is going to go to the graveyard early on. I feel if you have creatures that etb and make tokens, it's more worth it to chump with the non-token for this reason, but also so you can keep the tokens safe.
      I've checked out the deck list they put together, but it feels strange that it only has about 18 creatures in it.

  • @maybeisuckatlife
    @maybeisuckatlife 6 років тому +1

    I really appreciate the amount of time and effort that goes into these videos. This was a really interesting take on the commander.

  • @simoncss1
    @simoncss1 6 років тому +2

    For Josh’s pre-“To the Listeners” note, I’m actually so theme- & synergy-driven that (s an exampl), Swords to Plow simply isn’t auto-included in every X-white deck I build. Mayb my Group-Hug deck, along with Path to Exile, since they give something back.
    For Artifact decks, the Dispatch & Dispense Justice r definitely the go-to cards

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому +1

      Same here.
      I even ran Crib Swap in my janky Sliver Overlord deck when I had it together.

  • @GachaJoshIRL
    @GachaJoshIRL 6 років тому +29

    Hey guys, rad video as always! Here's a sneaky plan for you!
    #1 Phyrexian Dreadnought
    #2 Make a token copy of it in response to its ETB
    #3 Sacrifice the original dreadnought to the token clone to keep it alive, choose the 'sacrifice it' option for the original dreadnought
    #4 ????
    #5 Smack people with 12/12 tramplers?

    • @AL-sw6im
      @AL-sw6im 6 років тому +1

      step 4: profit

    • @KillerKupo
      @KillerKupo 6 років тому +1

      Hey I didnt know you played mtg, love your vids Howl :D

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому

      Searchable with Trinket Mage, as well.

    • @AltPlay
      @AltPlay 6 років тому

      You make the Myr token at the beginning of your combat. Dreadnought will need to have been out (and paid for) before the Myr token can copy it.

    • @GachaJoshIRL
      @GachaJoshIRL 6 років тому +2

      Alt Play
      By making a token I meant via something like Cackling Counterpart.

  • @andykeskimaki5409
    @andykeskimaki5409 6 років тому +22

    Riddle me this: why wasn't helm of the host talked about as a way to get around legendary rule. #LongLiveTheEldrazi

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому +2

      JLK indirectly just doesn't want to go down the path of the hugest Eldrazi, and thinks Helm is too clunky/do-nothing and easy to punish. And if you don't have both your Helm and an Eldrazi to make it really worth, neither of those things is great on its own.
      The huge Eldrazi plan is better imo running new Saheeli as commander and Brudiclad as Lieutenant, and JLK's Brudiclad list is more smooth, consistent and synergistic overall.

    • @connergish9060
      @connergish9060 6 років тому +2

      helm of the host the commander, now you have 2 commanders making +1 tokens....that can then all be turned into the commander. rinse repeat next turn

  • @AhranMaoDante
    @AhranMaoDante 6 років тому +2

    A great target for making a token clone of would be Rapacious One. That way all your other tokens become 5/4's with Trample, that make more tokens when they deal damage, in the off chance you wort able to win, which can be used as blockers.
    Feldon of the Third Path also helps to get the tokens of your big creatures out, you just need to have a bit of a loot engine.
    Zektar Shrine Expedition can help you get a large token with trample into play the turn you go for game.
    Lastly, though I don't suggest actually using it as it's too slow for Izzet, Helm of the Host with Brudiclad lets you snowball into a swarm of Brudiclad's. Having the Helm resolve first to get a non-legendary Brudiclad token, then have the original make a Myr, then turn the Myr into another non-legendary Brudiclad, putting you at 3 total. Next turn each Brudiclad would make a Myr and have it become a non-legendary Brudiclad, putting you at 6 + the Helm token(7 total). After that would be 15, then 31, then 63, etc. That's excluding any other tokens produced. You could simply make an "Attack of the Clones" deck.

  • @PaladinLostHour
    @PaladinLostHour 6 років тому +2

    Breath of Fury - Infinite combat steps as long as you have an open opponent or an unblockable creature.
    Zektar Shrine Expedition - They know it's coming, but there's not a lot of options. 7/1 trample, hasty balls of nasty, and the Bruddiclones don't sac!
    Colossal Whale - 7/7 Islandwalk with pseudo-annihilator
    Flamerush Rider - Did you want access to ETB triggers on a 3/3? How about a whole lot of ETB Triggers?
    Flamerush Rider + Keldon Marauders - How about everybody just take a whole lot of damage?
    Flamerush Rider + Flametongue Kavu/Firemaw Kavu - Some men just want to watch their opponents burn.
    Flamerush Rider + Kavu Monarch - I'm pretty sure everyone's all dead.
    Goblin Piledriver - I have six of them...so 11/2 Pro-Blue...
    Grenzo's Ruffians - Did you make Jimmy take 30? Well, so did every other opponent.
    .

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому

      Now that's gas.

  • @FullPlateJacket
    @FullPlateJacket 6 років тому

    I think I figured out a solution to the riddle. It was really fun to think about, the key is that you actually get information based on what's not on the scale at all. Essentially you get information on three groups at a time, and so in order to figure it out in three steps or less, you need the final step to be choosing between at most three possibilities. I'll definitely be checking out Futility Closet.
    Oh, and the Commander stuff was really great too. I just got distracted by the riddle at the end...

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому

      I got it. At first I figured out we needed to conceptualize three groups at any given time rather than only the two you manipulate each time. Then I figured out how to determine any given coin was the odd one out, but not whether it was heavier or lighter. Then I revised so that you could tell which it was in a lot of cases, but not all. Then I made one final iteration that results in perfect knowledge of the objective.
      Then I went and looked it up to confirm I was right, and also to confirm the general, mathematical, variable matrix model for solving it as opposed to relying on the word-statement, group chunking logic approach. I didn't bother going through and hammering out exactly how that one worked on my own because it is getting super late, but the walk-through of it that I found makes sense.

  • @annihilatorg
    @annihilatorg 5 років тому +1

    Sure it's a year ago, but my favorite Brudiclad target was a sharding sphinx token. Moved from 10 random tokens to swing with 12 sphinx tokens into 156 thopters... and repeat.

  • @foleyedge
    @foleyedge 6 років тому

    Two cards I was looking at for Brudiclad, Supplant Form and Coat of Arms.
    Supplant Form: 6 CMC, but instant speed and interaction, and means you likely have the 6 mana to cast commander on the following turn
    Coat of Arms: if they are all the same creature, they sure are going to share a type

  • @thesquirteler4520
    @thesquirteler4520 6 років тому

    This is an awesome idea! I love how deep you managed to go into the token theme and utilize the utility of clues and gold!
    Side note: The Last Stand playmat arrived yesterday, and it’s gorgeous! Thank you guys for all you do!

  • @fluffy14sweet
    @fluffy14sweet 6 років тому +1

    Not anything overly powerful to add, but maybe Quasiduplicate from Guilds of Ravnica?

  • @TheShardFenix
    @TheShardFenix 6 років тому +2

    Well I just picked up the izzet deck solely for this commandr, so this was perfectly timed

  • @mtgsus
    @mtgsus 6 років тому

    If you want to go big with heavy hitters (and copy “it that betrays” and co) you could think about some ways to cheat them in with “sneak attack” and “quick silver amulet” . Talking about cheating big stuff in, Feldon is good at making tokens after using a loot effect.
    I’m really excited to build around this izzet agro/combo commander.

  • @Jrocknrolla
    @Jrocknrolla 4 роки тому

    Revisiting this after playing Brudi for months.. Curse of Opulence is EPIC. Goes into all my Red decks now. As much as my opponents SAY they will just not attack that person, when it's the right person... Treasures WHEE!!

  • @zo-zu7158
    @zo-zu7158 6 років тому +23

    Did you guys forget about Kiki Jiki?

    • @JungzYT
      @JungzYT 6 років тому +2

      Damion Gonzalo and splinter twin!

    • @dunamoose3446
      @dunamoose3446 4 роки тому

      @@JungzYT eh splinter twin is a bit cumbersome tho

  • @dwimmerling
    @dwimmerling 6 років тому

    It's going in my Riku x-tribal deck. Part of the trick is to make lots of clones/token copies of clones of regal behemoths and Zhar-Tur ancients. Tap the lands for all the mana.Or make a lot of doubling cubes, that may be better.

  • @GunplaSpot
    @GunplaSpot 6 років тому

    Please do Xantcha, sleeper agent ! I already built one, just need more information from you guys !

  • @groynin
    @groynin 6 років тому

    The first thing I thought when I read the Commander for the "big tokens" was some Dragon-token making cards, since you don't need to "tokenfy" it with those other cards, in case you don't have them in hand. Things like "Dragomnaster Outcast" and "Awaken the Sky Tyrant" or Tatsumana, the Dragon's Fang since it's "safe" from creature removal and it can equip those low damage tokens to make them somewhat threatening.
    I'm hoping someone plays with that deck on the next game night, so excited to see it in action!

  • @sheldonrotondo840
    @sheldonrotondo840 6 років тому +6

    The first card I thought of was feldon.

  • @steffenpabst3432
    @steffenpabst3432 6 років тому

    When it was spoilered, I did not care at all for Brudiclad.. thanks to you guys, I am totally hyped now!!

  • @Foxpawed
    @Foxpawed 6 років тому +1

    Honestly, Bane of Bala Ged doesn't have annihilator, but what it has is even better. Annihilator puts stuff into your opponents' yards, and if they have some edict protection, it does nothing. But this still forces them to choose, avoiding targeting anything, then exiles, which short of something like Dominarian Squee, you're not getting around.

  • @jstrobel5857
    @jstrobel5857 6 років тому

    I just made this deck! I went artifact based as well so I make a lot of thopters, myrs, and servos then have all the artifact mana payoffs like blink moth urn and storm the vault. Then my big creatures are the golems like blightsteel and platinum emperion.
    Other card suggestions for those who care:
    helm of the host. It's insane with brudiclad.
    Another clue card for you is Tamiyo's Journal. You can turn your other tokens into clues to immediately tutor for things.
    Thopter assembly is good too cause brud can change all your other thopters into something else so every time you just make 5 more thopters.
    mimic vat is good. Feldon is good. minion reflector is another flame shadow conjuring.
    Rite of replication.
    scuttling doom engine is like "anti board wipe" if you have lots of copies.
    utvara hellkite.
    Man i just love this guy can't wait to keep playing and get him fine tuned

  • @bernardorico8927
    @bernardorico8927 6 років тому +1

    Descent of the Dragons. One of my favorites cards.

  • @zarcothecheese
    @zarcothecheese 6 років тому

    Consider Mimic Vat, Helm of the Host, and God-Pharaoh's Gift. They were MVPs in my Trostani deck for populating tokens of stuff like Sun Titans and Terastodons. Here, these give you some new ways to get tokens from your (or your opponents', for Vat) stuff.

  • @Troommate
    @Troommate 6 років тому +6

    Chancellor of the Forge :D would be a good add :D

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому

      Not bad. Just not sure what it slots in for on JLK's list.

  • @16kauffmanh
    @16kauffmanh 6 років тому +1

    You could turn all your creature tokens into clue tokens and then wipe the board!

  • @micahhollingsworth3625
    @micahhollingsworth3625 6 років тому

    Chronozoa... Also I think Flamerush Rider. It could give you some shenanigans to cause multiple ETB effects. Turn all your tokens into riders and attack with them plus whatever nontoken creature you had with a cool ETB. Like Chancellor of the Forge.
    Rapacious One.

  • @evdans
    @evdans 6 років тому

    Flame Shadow Conjuring? Sneak Attack? Eternalize creatures? Teferi's Veil (keep the tokens that would normally exile or be sacrificed at end of turn and protect your board from sorcery speed board wipes)?

  • @saltyspooner1770
    @saltyspooner1770 6 років тому +10

    4:33, ur welcome

  • @matthewjennings7645
    @matthewjennings7645 6 років тому

    Zada, Hedron Grinder goes really well with Cackling Counterpart and like cards. You end up with A Zada in normal form, and double all the rest of your creatures.

  • @CharlesGouraudgaming
    @CharlesGouraudgaming 6 років тому

    2 cards I was surprised that didn't show up in the deck list: Helm of the host, and God-pharaoh's gift. I really think both of those help with the "make big tokens" plan that the deck is going for

  • @unimaginative_artist
    @unimaginative_artist 6 років тому +8

    Next commander video make these decks and see how they preform... This one and previous ones!

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ 6 років тому

      Undeca
      Yeeesssssss!

    • @360xssp
      @360xssp 6 років тому

      yes pls

  • @giovanniguzman1852
    @giovanniguzman1852 6 років тому +43

    The Ixilan Jace. You can turn your tokens into jace. Helm of the host! How did you miss this card?!

    • @chasewarren9702
      @chasewarren9702 6 років тому +2

      Jace comes into play without loyalty and dies. Helm of the Host is hella slow albeit fun.

    • @samuelbritner
      @samuelbritner 6 років тому +1

      If they work like the copies off of his -5 won't they be at 3 loyalty? Or is that loyalty only added on ETB so the transformation would kill them?

    • @chasewarren9702
      @chasewarren9702 6 років тому +11

      Samuel Britner Nothing about the card places loyalty on them, they receive it when entering the battlefield like any other walker would. Since they didn't ETB they won't get loyalty and they will die.

    • @samuelbritner
      @samuelbritner 6 років тому +1

      +Chase Warren Makes sense. Thanks

    • @andrepazzetti5246
      @andrepazzetti5246 6 років тому

      They will also be legendary unless you managed to ult Jace once, so you will have to sacrifice them anyway.

  • @Cracyflo1
    @Cracyflo1 6 років тому +5

    Keep DJ on the show he's awesome and fits well =D

  • @Amyas80s
    @Amyas80s 6 років тому

    This is the best decktech The Command Zone has ever done!

  • @OctoberDeltor
    @OctoberDeltor 4 роки тому

    some free mana ramp would include the artifact lands great furance, seat of the synod, and darksteel citadel, you can put them onto protype portal and tap it for a free land thats an artifact token (also btw soul foundry is useful as hell for creature tokens you want to make, alongside mimic vat ofc)
    if you can put isochron sceptor, you can have some options, if you put dramatic reversal and have at manarocks that can tap for at least 3, you now have infinite mana (goes well with mycosynth lattice cause everythings colorless, or if you have a 'tap for any color' mana rock even better). along side that, battle hymn can give you a red for each creature you control, so thats also mana ramp.
    speaking of mycosynth lattice, using cards like darksteel forge, padeem, nev's disk, and others that in some way protect your artifacts make your board unkillable, along side being a win con if you have karn: great creator out.
    some fun creatures to run that you didnt mention were pyreheart wolf, if oyu make a bunch of these it makes it hard for enemies to block, etherium sculptor and jhoira's familiar are two that make your artifacts (and historic spells with the familiar) one colorless less each to cast, veldaken humiliator makes the enemy youre attaccking's creatures all 1/1's with nothing until end of turn if you control 3+ artifacts, tawnos, urza's apprentice can pay a red/blue to copy target triggered/activated ability from an artifact and select new targets, and i think my favorite rn is slippery scoundrel, it has ascend, so if you have 10+ permenants you get the city's blessing, and when you do this creature gets hexproof and cant be blocked (only way to destroy these is a board wipe), and ancient stone idol which has flash and cost 1 less for eachattacking creature, when it dies make a 6/12 construct with trample.
    then weve got stuff like storm the vault (mana ramp and tokens), cavalcade of calamity (damages from 1/1's or less), altar of the brood (mills one when a permanent etb's), and statue of the god dragon (1 damage toeach player per tapped creature).
    some planeswalkers that work are ugin, the ineffiable, tezzeret, artiface master, karn great creator and karn scion of urza, saheeli sublime artificer, and saheeli the gifted

  • @laserbeam91
    @laserbeam91 4 роки тому

    Don't forget about good old Chasm Skulker to go wider with tokens to make more copies of awesome creatures!

  • @opendo2
    @opendo2 6 років тому

    Not sure if it was mentioned in the video yet (only halfway through), but mimic vat is probably a strong inclusion in the deck too. It has the ability to recycle some of your better token makers and like faerie artisans give you potential access to your opponents creatures

  • @gthecomicnerd9060
    @gthecomicnerd9060 6 років тому

    JD is awesome, love jumbo commander, discovered him last year with his vampire tribal video!

  • @Jeffxm003
    @Jeffxm003 6 років тому +1

    Oh man I had alot of ideas for this deck, now I have even more! Here were some of my ideas you guys didn't mention:
    Elemental Mastery
    Kazuul, Tyrant of Cliffs
    Hangarback Walker
    Phyrexian Processor
    Followed Footsteps
    Rite of Replication
    Clone Legion
    Myr Battlesphere
    Rakka Mar
    Master of Waves
    Breath of Fury

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому

      a couple of those are on the full decklist provided in the video description. the rest seem like slower/less efficient versions of what's in there already.

    • @cheesecake2449
      @cheesecake2449 6 років тому

      Clone legion. CLONE REGOIN!

  • @PhoenixXZY
    @PhoenixXZY 6 років тому +12

    YESSS I've been brewing with this guy since I saw his spoiler

  • @regirex4418
    @regirex4418 5 років тому

    Karn Scion of Urza would be dope. His -2 plus Brudiclad’s trigger makes massive creatures

  • @StarfallShadow
    @StarfallShadow 6 років тому

    I kept the token theme but went full artifact. Most of the tokens being created are thopters which turn into whatever I need. There's also things like Cogwork Assembler, Phyrexian Metamorph, Mirrorworks, Prototype Portal, Sculpting Steel etc. to copy any other artifact I had out which in the past have included: Blightsteels, Gilded Lotuses, Darksteel Juggernauts, Myr Battlespheres, and Platnium Angels for the lols.

  • @robbibob6392
    @robbibob6392 6 років тому

    Magical Christmas land posdibility: Helmet of the host token of Krenko+bruiclad+tokens will prduce tokens*2^tokens. Which is A LOT of tokens, with haste

  • @GLHFMtG
    @GLHFMtG 6 років тому +1

    Vids on vids on vids lately... usually once a week I’m like “oh Boyeeee it’s time!” But lately it’s like everyday I’m like “oh boyeeeee its time!”. Thank you.

  • @GuardianAngelEatos
    @GuardianAngelEatos 6 років тому

    Wow Bruudiclad sounds much more fun than I first thought! I thought of using Clue and Treasure tokens, but didn't think of the cloning cards and Bloodforged Battle-Axe! Now I'm going to being saying Brudiclad with a Scottish accent every time I say It! Haha! This might be my new favorite deck tech on your channel!
    That is really cool Jumbo that you were thinking of making a channel on riddles, and that you were deciding between that and Jumbo Commander! I love riddles too, even though I suck at them! I love things that require thinking in order to solve! I've recently developed an interest for sequential puzzles. They seem very fun and challenge the mind!
    Eight episodes made in two days?! Holy cow! Thank you for working so hard to create all of this awesome content! I can't wait to see who this special guest is!

  • @DuncanEllis
    @DuncanEllis 6 років тому

    that's a heck of a deck. A thing of terrifying beauty.
    And good call on saying Brudiclad with a Scottish accent. It does sound better. I'll be honest, I include Murder in my decks just so I can say it as a Scot.

  • @wolgorewildrunner7468
    @wolgorewildrunner7468 6 років тому

    Two/Three Cards... Nim Deathmantle and Ashnod's/Phyrexian Altar... Infinite tokens with very specific token generators and a good big token equals overwhelming power!

  • @penguinpimp2k2
    @penguinpimp2k2 6 років тому

    I was just about to build this deck and y'all definitely helped find some great jank for it!

  • @TonySloan2112
    @TonySloan2112 6 років тому

    Lol, your Connery is pretty good Josh. Loving all the content! Totally throwing Brudiclad in my Breya tokens.

  • @amazingronaldo9656
    @amazingronaldo9656 6 років тому +12

    Helm of the Host!! Where is it!! Tokenize any of your dudes even legends! Helm your commander and make another and then two 2/1 Myr that become whatever token you want them to be. They could all become Brudiclad!! ;)

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому +3

      Command Zone thinks Helm of the Host is too slow, costing a bunch of mana to play and then to Equip, leaving you open to real feel-bads against any removal at any point on that line of play.
      I think it's doable if you construct the deck with some cost-reducers/ramp, especially with some Orrery to shorten the window before you start getting value.

    • @glennmatthews758
      @glennmatthews758 6 років тому +1

      Well, you can also make all those toekns youve saved up ebfore into treasures. So you wont have any trouble with not having enough mana

  • @DonovanPresents
    @DonovanPresents 6 років тому

    I'm so glad to be on a similar page with this deck tech. I thought of quite a bit of these cards

  • @kingoceanblu4445
    @kingoceanblu4445 2 роки тому

    Spawning Kraken is a great card for this deck as well. Spawning Kraken says "For each Kraken, Serpent that deals combat damage. Create a 8/8 Kraken token" great card!!!

  • @mikeshaver-miller745
    @mikeshaver-miller745 6 років тому

    Have you consider using cards like Relentless Assault to get tricky with combat? Like, turn everything into a big, dumb creature, then after combat is over just make a janky little clue then turn everything into your clue and pass knowing your board is safe?

  • @phatdistraction
    @phatdistraction 6 років тому

    Helm of the host? New Karn tokens? Sundial to keep all those myriad or other until end of turn tokens? Krenko making a goblin or two then you turn all your tokens into goblins and krenko again and double all tokens again?

  • @leothomas4307
    @leothomas4307 6 років тому +6

    I love brudiclad thantis and xancha they re like the most unique cards of the set

    • @ethanredding9977
      @ethanredding9977 6 років тому

      What about Yuriko?

    • @samarbrander981
      @samarbrander981 6 років тому +1

      I’d say there are quite a few unique cards this time. Varchild is another I’d say stands out

    • @leothomas4307
      @leothomas4307 6 років тому

      Ethan Redding i mean they did create a ninja commander which was noice for the community but its sad that its ability is basically draw a card

    • @leothomas4307
      @leothomas4307 6 років тому

      Samarbrander yea i love that card to but why did it have to be legendary.... I wanted to clone it 😂😂

    • @Deris76
      @Deris76 6 років тому

      because it's finally the legendary ninja we ever Wanted :D

  • @Scott-uo7hb
    @Scott-uo7hb 6 років тому

    Probably late and not sure if people care but VRV is legitimately good I use it a lot

  • @nobody-fu8yx
    @nobody-fu8yx 6 років тому

    It's funny, I lived off flatbush in brooklyn in the west indian neighborhood... Brudiclad in my head always takes on a jamacian or trinnie accent/pronunciation.
    Excited to build this deck, looking forward to flameshadow conjuring... a phyrexian dreadnought, sac the original to keep the copy. trans mog a bunch of myr into dreadnoughts, for the ultimate Phyrexian flavor win. I just wish the general didn't cost 6 mana

  • @closetpan
    @closetpan 6 років тому

    Great to see DJ again I was kind of disappointed he wasn't on the actual game knight episode

  • @Kattywagon29
    @Kattywagon29 6 років тому

    I suggest that you suit Brudiclad up with a Bloodforged Battle-Axe, Argentum armor, Captain's Claws and a Helm of the Host. Surely he'll be ready for battle and shennanigans. XD

  • @jebasta123
    @jebasta123 6 років тому +9

    Utvara Hellkite + Helm of the Host = It's raining dragons

    • @teamnormie9235
      @teamnormie9235 6 років тому +1

      Hallelujah

    • @noahmeyerhoff9470
      @noahmeyerhoff9470 6 років тому

      It’s raining dragons + Atarka, World Render as the commander = It’s raining double striking dragons.

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому

      Atarka doesn't have Blue. You'll need to run Brudiclad and Atarka as lieutenants/hidden generals in Riku.

    • @chromaticcaos
      @chromaticcaos 6 років тому

      Brudiclad + helm of the host + brudiclad turning all your tokens into non legendary brudiclads = to many myrs

  • @KZcovers
    @KZcovers 6 років тому

    Mishras self replicator for easy token generation (also a win con for mechanized production)
    Rite of replication (more tokens!)
    Kiki jiki (literally the best token maker, and brudiclad is in the colors to abuse him with combos)
    Karn scion of urza (makes a big artifact token that can be replicated and they will all inherently make each other bigger)
    Impact tremors/warstorm surge (multiple tokens will be entering, even though they don't re-enter when they transform, still going to have them entering to begin with)
    Blightsteel colossus (gives you a big monster of a card to copy with clone cards/arcane artisan)
    Helm of the host (make nonlegendary copies of great legends, then turn all tokens into them for more broken shenanigans)

  • @THEMithrandir09
    @THEMithrandir09 6 років тому

    You guys forgot 2 of the best big token makers: Feldon of the third Path and Rite of Replication. The latter saves you the step to play a big good thing, you can just get your opponents. And Feldon is great if you need a 2nd Swing or run Faithless Looting, which you probably should.

  • @dungeonrancher
    @dungeonrancher 6 років тому

    This is cool. Try a Glyph Keeper in here, once you embalm it is's a 5/3 flyer with a sort of like bubble of protection.

  • @SmugglyModest
    @SmugglyModest 6 років тому

    I like to do a bit of jank in my decks so a few cards I thought about adding were Krenko, Intruder Alarm, Impact Tremors, Altar of the Brood, Coat of Arms, and Eldrazi Monument.

  • @JuQmadrid
    @JuQmadrid 6 років тому

    The Locust god is also a good small token generator, pretty hard to kill, too.
    I'd focus more on coping other players' stuff, they usually try hard to have really amazing creatures/artifacts and you don't need to get in the trouble of casting something worth copying. Cards like Saheeli's Artistry or Metamorphic Alteration (which can also be used on other player's creature to turn it into a servo) will do the trick.

  • @tyger2891
    @tyger2891 6 років тому

    Sundial of the Infinite. It would allow those myriad tokens to stay on the board because you end your turn before the combat phase ends.

  • @QuestionMarc
    @QuestionMarc 6 років тому

    The two cards I thought of Brudiclad could have a lot of fun with are Helm of the Host and Karn, Scion of Urza.

  • @The_Erik_Saga
    @The_Erik_Saga 6 років тому

    This is probably my favorite deck list the podcast made

  • @austin8776
    @austin8776 4 роки тому

    So a couple of cards I haven’t seen mentioned that can get pretty scary are chasm skulker and mist-syndicate naga

  • @dboeify
    @dboeify 6 років тому +3

    I want to mechanize production a powerstone shard, and turn all of my tokens into powerstone shards...Also, Mimic Vat is another great token creator

    • @adym15
      @adym15 6 років тому +1

      Derek Boettcher thanks for reminding me of Powerstone Shard

    • @StarfallShadow
      @StarfallShadow 6 років тому +1

      Use Blinkmoth Urn instead. :)

    • @EvGamerBETA
      @EvGamerBETA 5 років тому +1

      @@StarfallShadow , won't blinkmoth urn give insane amounts of mana to opponent who also runs artifacts? Unless you tap it of course

    • @StarfallShadow
      @StarfallShadow 5 років тому

      @@EvGamerBETA True. Unless you can tap your own artifacts, Urn should only be used if you think you can SERIOUSLY outvalue your opponent(s).

  • @gustavomartinsdesouza5548
    @gustavomartinsdesouza5548 6 років тому

    I would definitely use The Antiquities War on Brudclad, two turns of card advantage and one turn of smashing with treasures/clues XD It's ok to everyone to see it coming because of the card advantage and selection and, if no one deals with it, a bunch of junk becomes 5/5s

  • @david_broz
    @david_broz 6 років тому

    I think you should put in:
    *Stormtide Leviathan* - make 5 of these and somebody is gonna die. I count that as a value in my book.
    *Rite of replication* - Clone for 4 mana is not that much worse than 3. You might have thought that is just way too expensive to play however it makes the big token and it makes a lot of them. Both you want and it is not reliant on your commander yet it has synergy with it (5 copies

  • @desedant7369
    @desedant7369 6 років тому +3

    Instant win with mechanized production or revel in riches?? Yes

    • @DontStopTheHustle
      @DontStopTheHustle 6 років тому +3

      Revel is in the wrong colors but mechanized production is crazy.

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa 6 років тому

      If you have the mana-base for it, you can run Breya and just jam in all the alt-win cons. Revel, Production, Marionette Master, Hellkite Tyrant.

  • @charles-davidcorbin3341
    @charles-davidcorbin3341 6 років тому

    That video (like all other you made) are really nice. This commander seems nice and I can make it since I just buy shaeli commander sweet. On that deck I woud play Crafty Cutpurse too so if someone else would make tokens (for exemple tempt with vengence you cast you save some mana for that creature).

  • @boktor666
    @boktor666 6 років тому

    I feel like Brudiclad can also be a great backup in a dedicated Breya deck around tokens... Imagine revel in riches with the Brudiclad ability! Turning everything in thopters for lethal, Entreat the Angels! Martial Coup! Feels real good I think... Thoughts?

  • @insaninater5154
    @insaninater5154 6 років тому

    Mimic vat! You should definately include mimic vat in brudiclad. you can pop the biggest thing that dies on it and turn every pump out a token copy, which all your tokens will become.
    Brudiclad seems way too slow to be super competitive though.

  • @Hellraiser923
    @Hellraiser923 6 років тому

    You forgot to mention with Myriad, you can cheat and keep the token around with Sundial of the Infinite, and in playing the Sundial you can play all of the Red "take an extra turn" spells for cheap, go to combat, do your tricks, then end the turn without losing the game

  • @SomeYouTubeTraveler
    @SomeYouTubeTraveler 6 років тому

    Better sprout twenty arms for Handy Dandy Clone Machine!
    For serious though, I put him in my Breya deck, just so I could try Brudiclad + Darksteel Plate + Gold/Clues/Treasure everywhere + Phyrexian Rebirth. "Oh, you don't like me putting a 20/20 on an empty board? How about twelve hasty ones?"

  • @bigmike15511
    @bigmike15511 6 років тому

    Me and my fiance have recently gotten into commander even though we only play 1v1 for right now until we can get more people involved. I bought natures vengeance for her and exquisite invention for myself. I was gettting destroyed with saheeli as my commander for 4 to 5 games. She is excellent for a long drawn out 4 player game. But you dont get enough value out of her in a quick 1v1 game.
    I switched my commander to brudiclad last night. What a blow out. I had my loyal apprentice out turn 2 making thopters, and brudiclad turn 6 making myrs while my pilgrims eye would attack every turn to activate there abilities. By turn i think 7 or 8 i had 12 thopters and turned them all into sharding sphinx with prototype portal. She had 2 flyers out at that point. Swung for 36. Meanwhile if she had survived somehow sharding sphinx would made 12 more thopters....this is such great commader.

  • @thejizzanater6924
    @thejizzanater6924 6 років тому

    Combat celebrant also can go infinate with kiki jiki. You could use it as an alternative if you cant cast your commander for some reason. You'd have infinate combat phases .

  • @regirex4418
    @regirex4418 5 років тому

    Could you use Rite of Replication as a finisher? You could use it and make 5 tokens of something big, then make your other tokens into them, then kill everyone?