To me, Tom Brands looked pinned early on; however, one still has to be in awe of how much energy he used fighting off his back for so long but still had plenty in the gas tank to stage a dominating comeback. Credit to Dan Gable’s training for sure (and Tom’s heart of a champion).
Man that was tough to call..was he pinned? I kinda thought so. The view wasn't good enough though. Only the Referee and Tom Brands truly know the answer.
I agree. Refs are afraid to call pins on big-name wrestlers sometimes. A state champ in my state was so stuck one time. Double chicken-wing on his back for 1:00, no call. Would have cost his team the match. BS. Of course, when you let him up, they come back to win. Have to say the ref's call in Backes vs Max Askren was great. Super pin by Backes.
obviously Brands right shoulder wasnt down which is the reason there was no pin maybe if Joey had as much strength and heart as he does groupies to comment on a youtube video crying ''pin'' maybe he would've won the match.
Tom was a little slow getting back to the mat after counting the lights. You think he was tired? Too bad the opposing coach didnt get on the Ref and harrass him to call stalling. Oh thats right, because the coach has class. Who else does that???? i wonder???
@littlefuzzer he may have been, but since the official didn't call the pin, it turned out to be an amazing match. And it showed who was truly the better wrester (Tom)
Bullshit like always. Brands was pinned, but refs were afraid of Gable and Brands. Regardless of the fact that Brands would of won the National Championship. He was pinned. What a joke our sport is turning into. I have seen our amazing sport go down because of shit like this. Call pins when a wrestler is pinned regardless of who the wrestler is. We'll probably get it right when programs are dead throughout the country
I love Iowa wrestling, but let's be honest, he was stuck for sure!
Brands was stuck at 55 seconds. That ref sucks
not sure what was more impressive to me - gilbert's balls for going for a move like that so early in the match, or brand's sheer will power.
To me, Tom Brands looked pinned early on; however, one still has to be in awe of how much energy he used fighting off his back for so long but still had plenty in the gas tank to stage a dominating comeback.
Credit to Dan Gable’s training for sure (and Tom’s heart of a champion).
Watched it again. Where were Brands' shoulders? That's a pin.
that's a pin today.... just saying. huge iowa fan.
It was a pin that day too
Iowa bias.
Yeah because nowadays if your on your back whatsoever they call a pin
he was Pinned
Some of that “Iowa Privilege.”
Def pinned
i think tom was pinned there
If that happened now days brands would of gotten pinned!
Pinned in 2018!
Man that was tough to call..was he pinned? I kinda thought so. The view wasn't good enough though. Only the Referee and Tom Brands truly know the answer.
Regardless if it was a pin or not, shouldn't the ref be in position to make that call? The ref is still standing! He should be on all 4's, right?
The lead ref who was out of the picture was in a position to make the call. If it would have been anyone else Gilbert would have got the pin
Pinned.
That's my football coach (conditioning)😨
That's what you call a comeback..
I agree. Refs are afraid to call pins on big-name wrestlers sometimes. A state champ in my state was so stuck one time. Double chicken-wing on his back for 1:00, no call. Would have cost his team the match. BS. Of course, when you let him up, they come back to win.
Have to say the ref's call in Backes vs Max Askren was great. Super pin by Backes.
lol, I agree. Stuck.
That was a pin
Wrestled Brands and been around Joe in the fight world both are Stud wrestlers !
@Here2ownU
Many takedowns are given when knees aren't on the mat.
joey gilbert was my coach
i think it was the other way around lol.
ummm did you see the score?
obviously Brands right shoulder wasnt down which is the reason there was no pin maybe if Joey had as much strength and heart as he does groupies to comment on a youtube video crying ''pin'' maybe he would've won the match.
:58 he's stuck!
Refs won't call the pin on big-name wrestlers.
That said, great call in recent Backes vs Max Askren match.
gilbert is my coach
Let me get this straight..Brands wasn't pinned, but he scored 2 at :1:54 when Joey's knees didn't even touch the mat. Okay, got it.
Tom was a little slow getting back to the mat after counting the lights. You think he was tired?
Too bad the opposing coach didnt get on the Ref and harrass him to call stalling. Oh thats right, because the coach has class. Who else does that????
i wonder???
man, that was really close
Joey Pinned Him
Such bull💩 brands was stuck ref was for Iowa for sure if brands have been on top whistle would have been blown before Gilbert hit the mat unbelievable
to be a pin both shoulder blades have to be down not shoulders shoulder blades learn people get that mixed up because they dont know the rules
lol. ok
wow what a match
Joe Won. HOrribleRefs
Love Iowa but he was STUCK!
@littlefuzzer he may have been, but since the official didn't call the pin, it turned out to be an amazing match. And it showed who was truly the better wrester (Tom)
the reason why the refs didnt call the pin is because gilbert kept his left arm under brands' shoulder so he technically wasn't pinned.
minadabom1 ur a cluck
one of his shoulders was off the mat at all times in my opinion i've seen that called plenty of times however
Neither ref got down on all 4s because they didn't want to make that call. Have plausible deniability. And I am a huge Iowa/Brands Fan.
Joey got fuct. Brands was dead!!!! Stuck to the floor!!!
@EXA915 his own hand was in the way
WHAT A HORRIBLE REF!!
Bullshit like always. Brands was pinned, but refs were afraid of Gable and Brands. Regardless of the fact that Brands would of won the National Championship. He was pinned. What a joke our sport is turning into. I have seen our amazing sport go down because of shit like this. Call pins when a wrestler is pinned regardless of who the wrestler is. We'll probably get it right when programs are dead throughout the country
no pin
pin
@@mikedondo3579 No pin. Arm was under Brands' shoulder.