If the speed is down it can normaly only be one of two things. Either the bore is two wide and you are getting gas slip, it can't be that because the grouping is too good. Or the bore is tight and it's slowing the rounds down. To test for this slug the barrel, take .22 projectile and push it through the barrel. And then measure it with a set of calipers.
I have a Lilja barrel on my custom build and its an absolute tack driver having shot a national record and 2 state records and it prefers Lapua to eley but yours is doing well with both. Mine seems to have improved over the last 18 months from new but it was exceptional out of the box. I enjoyed your clip. Nice shooting making the gear look great.
Bore size. I have the Lilja tight bore. Its 0.0015 smaller bore than the standard bore. My barrel is 26" and velocity is 50 fps slower than the box stated velocity.
That SD of 24... was the first shot the low one? Cold bore, clean bore, lots of possibilities. If it's a clean bore, my bore takes like 30 shots to fully speed up.
@utahpaperpuncher59 I also just ordered a 23”. The drop down options as of yesterday still only offer 18 and 21, but the notes say up to 23. I placed the order then followed up with a email listing my order number and asked if they could make it 23” finished length. Angie answered the next morning during business hours and said they could do it. She updated my order and sent me a new invoice with no additional charge. Sample size of one but any time I have emailed with questions they are very friendly and respond quickly.
So which shoots better, Vudoo or CZ? I have a Vudoo and CZ 455 as well, my CZ has A Walther barrel, both shoot well with SK yellow box, think they both shoot equally well. My Anschutz 2013 shoots better than both
What were the atmospheric conditions that you shot both in? A cold dense day vs. hot humid makes a difference. The BC of a .22lr is not that good so atmospheric conditions will have an effect on FPS. A good Kestrel and a weather reporting app that can give density altitude is good to use while testing and logging the effects on equipment. Just my two cents.
@@RedNeck_Rimfire you have a great shooter for sure. I do wish lilja would offer to cut the tenon to size even if you had to pay extra. Mine wasn’t to bad but could have been a few thousands tighter. But it ended up being a shooter also. Some of the gunsmiths in my area are using the 457 receiver and threading a name brand barrel on it and making tack drivers, Thats why I asked.
Surely the barrel is too long and the pressure behind the bullet is dropping rapidly towards the end? Maybe a slightly shorter barrel would restore the velocity?
If the speed is down it can normaly only be one of two things. Either the bore is two wide and you are getting gas slip, it can't be that because the grouping is too good. Or the bore is tight and it's slowing the rounds down. To test for this slug the barrel, take .22 projectile and push it through the barrel. And then measure it with a set of calipers.
I tightened the head space. numbers look good now
I have a Lilja barrel on my custom build and its an absolute tack driver having shot a national record and 2 state records and it prefers Lapua to eley but yours is doing well with both. Mine seems to have improved over the last 18 months from new but it was exceptional out of the box. I enjoyed your clip. Nice shooting making the gear look great.
Do you see a cold bore shift with yours?
@@RedNeck_Rimfire yes a little high as a rule opn the firs cold shot.
Thx a bunch for watching
Is that a 23” .9 diameter barrel?
Bore size. I have the Lilja tight bore. Its 0.0015 smaller bore than the standard bore. My barrel is 26" and velocity is 50 fps slower than the box stated velocity.
I’m not seeing much velocity change from the 20 inch barrel
Dang.. that’s some great groups. 👍
Thx bud. Love that barrel
matching bullet speed to match your barrel is critical for accuracy, plus weighting your ammo. What batch number is the Eley match. cheers
Great groups
Thx. Checking out your channel. Thanks for the subscribe 👍🏼
@@RedNeck_Rimfire Great buddy
That SD of 24... was the first shot the low one? Cold bore, clean bore, lots of possibilities. If it's a clean bore, my bore takes like 30 shots to fully speed up.
I have not seen a cold bore out of this gun. Surprised because Lilja is notorious for cold bore shots
Also why does the speed matter if the SD is good an it groups well??
I go by group size and SD. If both are good I run with it
Speed to load th[e kestral
It’s a rimfire the more heat you can get in the barrel the better it will shoot
Does it take a few rounds when you change bullet lube types??
@@clarson2916 I haven’t really noticed a difference. I have tried both ways
I like the scope what kind is it and where can I purchase one? You are one tough shooter lights out good shooting brother.
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Did you get your barrel fro Lila? If so so how did you get the 23” option?
Yes. They now make the 23inch. I have seen no cold bore out of mine
They make them now
@utahpaperpuncher59 I also just ordered a 23”. The drop down options as of yesterday still only offer 18 and 21, but the notes say up to 23. I placed the order then followed up with a email listing my order number and asked if they could make it 23” finished length. Angie answered the next morning during business hours and said they could do it. She updated my order and sent me a new invoice with no additional charge. Sample size of one but any time I have emailed with questions they are very friendly and respond quickly.
So which shoots better, Vudoo or CZ? I have a Vudoo and CZ 455 as well, my CZ has A Walther barrel, both shoot well with SK yellow box, think they both shoot equally well. My Anschutz 2013 shoots better than both
The CZ shoots just as good as the vudoo out to 100 yards. After that the Vudoo pulls away
What were the atmospheric conditions that you shot both in? A cold dense day vs. hot humid makes a difference. The BC of a .22lr is not that good so atmospheric conditions will have an effect on FPS. A good Kestrel and a weather reporting app that can give density altitude is good to use while testing and logging the effects on equipment. Just my two cents.
It was cold and humid
for both?@@RedNeck_Rimfire
did you have to send your gun to Lila to have this done?
Just curious, are you still using the grub screws are did you thread the action and barrel?
Grub screws
@@RedNeck_Rimfire you have a great shooter for sure. I do wish lilja would offer to cut the tenon to size even if you had to pay extra. Mine wasn’t to bad but could have been a few thousands tighter. But it ended up being a shooter also. Some of the gunsmiths in my area are using the 457 receiver and threading a name brand barrel on it and making tack drivers, Thats why I asked.
Surely the barrel is too long and the pressure behind the bullet is dropping rapidly towards the end? Maybe a slightly shorter barrel would restore the velocity?
Changed head space and velocity is up
Try another a lot a CenterX
What are the specs on your barrel beyond the 23” length? ie which contour?
1:16 twist 1.0 straight
Non threaded
dang, i thought lilja only offered 21in barrels. nice groups too
Carson started milling 23. Impressive so far
Nice shooting. How far was the target?
50 yards
Are you going for the smallest deviation or the smallest groups
Both actually. I want at least half moa with a sub 7 SD
I quite honestly would be extremely happy with those groups the heck with deviations
Yea crazy what i expect from these 22’s
Because it’s still going to speed up you said the barrel is new right?
Yes
Is this a drop in barrel with shims ?
Yes
tight bore?
Yes it is snug
I just purchased a muller for my mtr and its the tightest of all the barrels I have .
If the CZ457 is so good, why are all you guys putting lilja barrels on them?
Long range. Stock barrel hammers out to 100-150 yards. Lilja shoots great out to 300
There is NO break in on a good rimfire barrel
Agree
All barrels have a break-in
looks like the barrel was worth the money
It shoots well