Canon XF400 vs Canon XA50 | Which One Should You Get
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- I forgot to mention that both cameras can now shoot CLog3 8-bit.
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50p / 60p is in the menu of the XA50, because you could record in 1080p with 50p and 60p.
That’s, why it’s not selectable at 2160p, but still shown in the menu.
I would think the main difference between the XFAVC and MP4 codecs is probably more the level/profile of h264 compression used, not really the 10mbps bitrate difference. A higher level/profile would give better image quality at the same bitrate (but take more computing power to compress and decompress). I should just record a clip of each on my XF405 and use MediaInfo to see what the level/profile is for each.
Guess with xa50 firmware you get canon log3. So hook this hdmi output to atomos you get 1080p log3 at 422 10bit. Now that's impressive
Thank you for this comparison i believe is excellent. You're one of a kind when it comes to camcorders reviews, almost every youtube review channel talks about apsc or full frame and the ones who do talk about camcorders are not as professional as you. I got an used GX10 for $1100 dlls (here in Mexico costs around $2700 dlls brand new) and i can't belive how great quality delivers below 28 db, even at 1080p (this is because it does a full read out of the sensor at 4k and downsamples it, i believe that is why the battery performance does not get better recording at 1080)
I came from using the a6400 and it blew my mind how much better is the GX10 at 1080 and at pair at 4k with a6400 + sigma trio, I've got so dissapointed when I found out Sony crippled his 1080p quality on all his apsc 4k alpha cameras.
Do you want to say that the Canon GX10 has a better output than the Sony a6400? I'm considering buying one in 2023. It's an old camera, but at the moment canon doesn't offer any cameras with 50-60p recording at a friendly price. So are you still satisfied with the GX10 or have you reached its limits and want to buy something better?
I have the XA50. You can shoot 60P in 1080. That's why the option is there in the XA50.
Do all the Canon XA's have the thing that the zoom goes faster the more you zoom? Really hard to follow fast cars when you're suddenly zooming inn too fast, starts slow and gets progressively faster. Zoom also started sticking only after 5 events in colder weather like -5c
awesome, thank you!
Thanks for the video, was good to find out that xa50 does 10bit through hdmi
Yes, but it's HD 10-bit, not 4K 10-bit.
The XF400 is no longer available. The XA50 has been crippled down to 4k30.
The 60fps is in the menu system becouse when 1080p is selected 60fps becomes avaialble not becopuse they are teasing you.
Why can't it be both? lol.
@@VideoGizmology It is a hardware limitation. Full frame needs more processing power to do 60fps so in the S52 it only woks in 1080 but even then you lose PDF focus. To get the whole cake you have to shoot in APS-C crop.
Maybe in the S6 we will get it all.
I have the same issue with the XA20 stabilisation shaking and the same with the XA45, i called the seller but he didn't sound interested, only talking about a repair, i have had it with CANON now, they do not look after their customers.
Does any of these have built in filters, if not which canon have it, thanks , I love ur channel
they both have built in ND filters.
@@VideoGizmology thanks for the reply
Listening to this guy talk about high end pro-cosumer camcorders is just so soothing.
XA50 has the same size cmos sensor that is found in the G60 but without the codec features?
Yes, the G60 appears to be the same sensor, but does not have the XF-AVC codec or the CLog3 picture profile.
@@VideoGizmology Does Panasonic still support P2 storage? I remember years ago those huge bulky P2 cards and then they switched to Micro P2 cards.
Yes, I believe Panasonic still supports P2. There are many legacy broadcasters that still use that format. Also, the Panasonic CX10 can use both SD and Micro P2 cards and there are still Panasonic camcorders on the market now that shoot to Micro P2.
@@VideoGizmology C-LOG3 is available in the G60
Cool! I don't think it has the XF-AVC codec, though.
I looked over the manual, and I couldn't find any videos on it either. Do either of the displays show you your current focal length and current focus distance?
I believe you CAN output 4K60 4:2:2 on the HDMI output if you are only doing external recording.
Not on the XA50. Only 1080p at 60fps 4:2:2 10-Bit via mini-HDMI.
What are the differences between the XA50 and G60?
Hi, how bad is the LCD screen on the Canon XA50. I have the Canon G40 and it has a beautifull 3.5 oled screen, i had purchased the Canon G60 to upgrade my camera but I noticed that the LCD screen is very bad. The viewing angles are not very good, in that part its a very bad downgrade. That is the reason I had to retun it. The Canon G40 has the same LCD quality as the Canon Gx10, but the downside in that camera is the battery life. In the G40 I get 230 minuetes in one charge and on the GX10 I get 130 minuets. If the GX10 or xa400 did have a good battery life I would get one to replace my camera. Does the Canon XA50 have the LCD screen as the Canon G60?
I believe the XA50 has the same LCD screen as the G60, so if you hated the LCD on the G60, you'll probably feel the same on the XA50. I actually like the XA50 overall as the current best prosumer Canon camcorder because it's cheaper, shoots all the same codecs except 4k/60p, and has excellent battery life. The downside is the LCD.
@@VideoGizmology Thank you very much, yes it seems like a good camcorder. I mostly shoot events 1080 60p 35mbs and the only reason I want to upgrade my camera is to be able to save on both sd cards one for backup. My camera can do that but not in the highest setting. Hopefully canon comes out with more camcorders soon, I like the colors of canon. Thank you again.
The XF400 has been discontinued by most places like Adorama and B&H. Is there an updated camera that is taking it's place?
I wouldn't be surprised if Canon makes an announcement at NAB this October to update the XF400. The XA50 is a better purchase than the XF400.
Canon announced the XF605, but there is nothing in the form factor of the XF400, that replaces it.
@@VideoGizmology I use a Canon HV30 camera. I'm used to shooting up to 50i and recording up to 25p, which my HV30 camera also allows, seems a little smooth to me. When moving the camera, it acts like a strobe. Can't you see the difference on the 50p vs 25p display? That's why I want to buy a Canon GX10, which allows filming up to 4k50p. Is it possible to buy it and handle it like the HF400? What are the differences between the HF400 and the GX10? Thank you for your work.
why does the xf400 have an internet port?
Just purchased XA50, and will be shooting soon. I loved your vlog, great presentation and comparison. I checked into manual...Canon wants $500. Any way to get around that?
Could you explain what you mean by "Canon wants $500"? I don't understand.
@@VideoGizmology I tried to download XA50 camera manual from Canon. But I would much prefer a printed copy. Do you know where I could one? Sorry for the confusion.
I don't know where you can buy a Canon manual. I would just download the PDF manual from the Canon website and print it out.
How much better is the quality compared to an iPhone or other smartphone?
I don't think the average person will be able to tell the difference between the highest end iPhone (iPhone 12 Pro) and a one inch sensor video camera, unless there is a zoom to show the focal length. But as a user, a smartphone and camcorder can be two completely different tools for what you want to do. The smartphone is great because you usually always have it with you, but there are many filming situations that a camcorder can do that a smartphone cannot.
XF400 has better image quality
I own two XA-50. I record firemen in action. My cameras are "gun 'n' run" cameras. I kinda struggle with focus selection. Would like my XA-50s to work like iPhone - you point it at the scene, all is in focus, no focus hunting. Question: What kind of focus set up do you recommend for this kind of videography ? Thank you
For your situation, you'll want to switch the XA-50 on full AUTO. There should be a switch or button that says AUTO and that makes the camera adjust all the settings by itself like an iPhone. There might be cheaper options for your needs, though. Maybe get a second iPhone? Or a Samsung S22 Ultra, that shoots amazing 4K video on full auto with the ability to zoom in farther than an iPhone. I did a review of the previous Samsung model, S21 Ultra, and loved it as a run and gun travel camera: ua-cam.com/video/V8Hkouyc5mk/v-deo.html
OR the Panasonic X1500 is slightly cheaper than the XA-50 and is better on full AUTO than the Canon. The X1500 also has a similar sensor size as the iPhone, so that means more things will be in focus more often. I made a comparison video to a Panasonic CX10, which is nearly the same as the X1500, and the Canon XF400, which is nearly the same as the XA-50, so you can see the benefits of the Panasonic over the Canon for your situation. ua-cam.com/video/GvjZGU4w6SY/v-deo.html
@@VideoGizmology Thank you for your valuable advice ! I will take a look into that as advised. Thanks !
How about the booting speed? I heard someone complaining about the slow booting speed of xa50, is it true?
Yes, it's a little slow, As long as you don't need to record something within 5 seconds of turning it on, you should be fine.
The xa50 has dual Digic DV6 processors not one...
You are incorrect. XA50 only has one processor, but has dual-pixel autofocus, which you may have misread as processor.
@@VideoGizmology if you go on the page for the xa50 and you click on brochures, and you click on compare cameras, under the processor it clearly states it is dual not single...
I'm not sure what brochure you are referring to, but the official Canon XA50 website says one processor and I owned the XA50 and read the manual.
@@VideoGizmology but I just told u how to see the specs listed ON the official Canon website
That must be a mistake, because you cannot find that anywhere else on their online data sheet, in the manual, in the official Canon XA50 release videos, in other UA-cam review videos, in third party camera website descriptions. You discovered a typo on one brochure. Maybe send an e-mail to Canon, so they can fix that confusion.
I was told the XA45 is ok for Filming fast moving Aircraft, what they don't tell you is they say you should use a Tripod or Gimbal to get steady footage, too late as i already bought one, When filming Fast Aircraft the Camera image starts to shake using handheld, this ids really not good enough Canon.
Yes, the XA40 and XA45 are also good choices.
Does the xa50 record 10 bit internal?
I don't believe so. 8-bit only.
2000 dollars between these 2 models are not justified