Did Bigfoot Stalk Loggers in the Pacific Northwest?
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Bigfoot wasn't always a household name. Back in the 1950's, you were unlikely to hear the term anywhere outside of Northern California, Oregon, or Washington. But then, in 1958, a man by the name of Jerry Crew came forward with something truly fascinating: a plaster cast of an absolutely massive human footprint. It struck a chord with some locals, who could recall reports by miners of a similar set of tracks discovered at Ape Canyon in Washington back in 1924, while others told of old hunting stories or even other casts of prints (though they never called it "Bigfoot"). Local reporters even began to dig up old Native American legends to compare with the sightings. In1967, Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin presented yet another shock to the world: a video tape allegedly depicting a female "Bigfoot" they called Patty walking through the Bluff Creek area, precisely where the tracks were found nine years earlier. The question is, was any of it actually real? Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Aura Ad
6:12 - The Battle of Ape Canyon
13:54 - The Death Valley Mummies
19:24 - The Bluff Creek Incident
28:10 - The Patterson-Gimlin Film
42:25 - The Native American Bigfoot
50:21 - Primer for Episode II - Розваги
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And what gorilla runs away from people... people literally go walk with them so thats bad research and you acting like you are right when wrong
I'll skip on the trial. I just want to share my experience on seeing these creatures. I was out at lake Murray in San Diego with my friends at night. I was skating and they were walking a little ways behind me, I thought there was a group of crackheads chilling out on the side of the paved walkway. I figured it was best to say good evening so they wouldn't get spooked and stab me or something since my longboard is pretty quiet compared to an average board. There were three of them and they jumped up and fled. My brain couldn't really process it and the only way I can describe it was that I thought they were people on bikes because they were SO FAST and HUGE. Two went down the path and one went over the hill but they were definitely not on bikes. I know I wasn't hallucinating because one of my friends was rounding the bend and saw them too.
I looked into it and I'm not the only one in San Diego who's seen 3 of them. There are sightings up near Julian and down in Chula Vista so I'm not the only one who's been through it. The waterways and trees literally stretch through the areas that they've been spotted. I never believed in Bigfoot till I saw these guys with my own eyes, nor could I have believed I'd see them in San Diego of all places. I know they weren't bears, they were too big to be bears and they definitely weren't humans. It's not a place where pranks are played either. I'm still surprised to this day tbh.
The only other time I thought I was hallucinating, I used to work at the zoo and a bee landed on my coffee lid in the break room but when I looked closer it had a fly face. Turns out it was a mimickfly. I've seen a few in Balboa since. Life is weird AF.
My wife and I swear we saw you at the Detroit Airport today.
CAnt watch this due to the CONSTANT flashing images - instant migraine.
plz stop.
I am an adult. I am 38 years old. I laughed uncontrollably at "Big Fussy"
Hairy Fussy.
Bald dick mountain is even funnier 😂
same my guy
Yes
I thought he was saying “Big Footsie” until I Googled it 😅
The fact that this story involves a dude named Hank Hill is the best part for me.
When I heard it I immediately looked for this comment and was not disappointed.
Think he had a son named Bobby and a dad named Cotton?
@@Princess_Celestia_ He must've tried to sell Bigfoot propane and propane accessories.
God Dang it!
I tell ya hwut
As a Pacific Northwesterner and a fellow Bigfoot I can honestly say yes. We're definitely stalking the Loggers up here.
Why don’t you mind your own business?
This is more evidence that Bigfoot is just a joke..
You should ignore the other comment, in fact you should stalk even MORE loggers
I support your mandate 😄
Bigfoot isn't real but that was funny nonetheless.🤣
Every time someone mentions Giants I half expect Wendigoon to make a cameo appearance.
Wendigoon?
@@magna1178one of the channel’s good friends, he believes giants were real
I am an adult.
I am 26 years old.
I am not grown.
😂😂😂
Poor guy. Just 4 years until the gem in his hand turns red…
This guy definitely appears to be a stooge of academia,seems like the only reality he has ever experienced is in his studio through his computer screen . He should try spending some time in the real world such as the deep remote wilderness where these things reside and acquire some real experience and then you might have the bonafide education you need to expound on such subjects rather than getting your information mostly from people who claim to have higher education.
@@MikeInOregonI understood that reference.
" Fish, and plankton. And sea greens, and protein from the sea. It's all here, ready. Fresh as harvest day!!"
@@clausvonstauffenberg9943
So Bigfoot lives in the remote deep forests but yet are seen from FL to OK to New Mexico and Michigan and many other states? I heard stories from New Jersey to Ohio, and even upstate New York.
Wherever there’s a human with an imagination you will find multiple sightings.
@@MikeInOregon fun fact, that's only seen in the movie.
In the original novel of Logan's Run, the gems changed colors every 7 years starting at yellow (birth-6), blue (7-13), red (14-20), red and black on Lastday, and black at 21.
The commentary track on the movie says they changed it to 30, because they didn't want every actor to be under 21.
My dad is a timber faller and has worked all over California since the mid 80s. He was raised in rural Montana, the eldest of 13, and very Christian. He doesn't believe in the paranormal or evolution, but he believes the Bigfoot exists. He has a few stories of encountering something in the woods, and he didn't believe it was Bigfoot until the Camp Sierra tapes (if I'm remembering correctly) came out and he heard the howling, or calls as my dad puts it. He said he had heard those same calls before, deep out in the mountains only a few times. He's spent a majority of the last 5 decades in the woods, and he's not a bullshitter. Makes me a bit more inclined to believe this stuff, but also I like the stories for what they are.
Edit: My dad moved to California in the 80s but he would drive down from Montana with some of his brothers to fall trees during the winter, and one of those winters he heard the "calls" with my uncles. Then the camp Sierra Tapes came out and he said the sounds were exactly the same.
The Sierra Sounds were captured back in the 70's. There's still no proof if they were legit or hoaxed though
MildFoot is not real.
@@M60gunner1971 bro click off the video then. You’re all over the comments spreading negativity. If you aren’t bringing anything to the discussion just watch something else. People don’t give a fuck about your NPC opinion 😂
@@toxicgracie3772they are legit
😊😊t😢
I'm gonna say definitely, I live In Port Angeles (born and raised) and I've heard a few stories from old loggers out in Joyce and I've seen and heard a few things that has me convinced.
The woods can be a very strange place
Sorry, Port Angeles, Washington State. right between the ocean and the Olympic forest.
I’m from Sequim and I’ve heard stories all my life. It’s bigger, deeper, and denser here than outsiders realize.
My step daughter lives in Joyce (and you've probably met). Those stories you've heard, they're all made up. I mean, all of them. For shi'ites and giggles or to con visitors.
Bigfoot or not, there's weird things in the woods 😂 especially stuff as dense as the Olympic peninsula forests
Would you mind elaborating or recounting a few of these stories? More so I'd also be interested in the things you've seen or heard firsthand that have ultimately swayed you.
To clarify, I'm not asking so that i can then debate the merit of whatever you say.
While I am a skeptic, I'm of the variety who genuinely wants to see definitive proof eventually come to light.
I genuinely want these things to be real, but retain a pragmatic disposition about them. I believe for the most part that the vast majority of encounters I've heard about in my consider exploration of the subject seem to probably sit between two camps; one of honest misidentification, and one of intentional fabrication.
Really though, I just appreciate it when someone is willing to give their testimony at all.
The skeptic "community" as it were has become too stifling, in my opinion, in their handling of the subject. To the point that I do my utmost to maintain a degree of separation between myself and them when possible. I see them as too often heel-dug into a stance of hostile non-belief, rather than skeptic open-mindedness, which hurts the skeptic standpoint as equally as fabrication does for the other side of the aisle, and is not very useful in the grand scheme of things.
That being said, I'm especially interested in firsthand testimony, and am always open to it in the sense that I don't feel the need to pick it apart or criticize it necessarily (though I do like to ask questions and get clarification when it seems appropriate). If you'd be so kind, I'd love to hear anything that you're willing to share in greater detail, no matter how little or how much it is. 🙂
Jane Goodall believed the Patterson creature to be a real sasquatch. That's good enough for me.
Nope. She said, she would like it to be real.
@@radagastbrown9001 She said both
She said she believes it’s real, but also says she’s unsure if that’s her romanticism nature or if it’s her educated assumption.
It was her romanticism of the chimpanzees that allowed the discoveries we made of them, so it’s obviously not nothing
Both my children saw an animal on a back road in our county. My son was 16 and my daughter 7. They never heard of bigfoot so they called it a monster. That night they said they were never going outside again.
My daughter has since drew what they saw and it was a blond or white colored bigfoot.
My kids are both grown now with their own kids. They still claim they saw it.
The Patterson-Gimlin guys admitted it was fake.
“He’s the anti-Jazzman of New Orleans” is perfect sentence.
I live in Humboldt, there's definitely something up here.
Sry that's me
A little wooden boy? 🤥
The Ape Canyon Incident is an amazing name to be sure, but my favorite named event is still "The Second Defenestration of Prague." It just tells a story, you know?
I hiked Mt st Helen's solo a few years ago with a 2am start and that trek through the forest to treeline was the scariest forest I've ever been in. Complete silence and complete blackness and trunks rising into the dark. I thought I ran into bigfoot after seeing eyes behind me from behind a tree, but it was just an elk😂
Get real.
@@M60gunner1971what's your problem?
If you see both eyes there is a 0% chance you saw an elk. They don't have binocular vision meaning their eyes are on opposite sides of the head. If you saw 2 eyes you saw some sort of predator or scavenger, could have been anything from a bear or bobcat to a racoon.
@@RexM-od1vtor Bigfoot lol
@RexM-od1vt I mean it literally moved out from behind the tree and was an Elk. I watched it for a few minutes
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Relatable.
Born and raised on Vancouver Island, BC. One night in Tofino, (west coast) at a cabin in the woods. I was on the porch. Something screamed/roared at me from behind the trees. It was so loud, like nothing I've ever heard before. Immediately got chills to the bone. Ran inside and locked the door. (I'm an outdoor person) never been scared of a noise from the woods in my life. I still get a chill talking about it. Don't know what it was, but my guess was sasquatch.
or a loon. for obvious reasons.
@@greenflagracing7067 What "obvious reasons" would those be, exactly?
@@filthycasual8187 you have one guess
Born and raised just south of you: A likely culprit is: Owls, cougars and lynxs. If it sounded like a person, but horrific, cougar or lync. If it was the most indescribably loud, torturous, terrifying scream/road, it was an owl. I forget the species but i was plagued by one when for a brief time i was living out of my pickup with the window rolled down. I woulda never guessed until I SAW THE DAMN THING land next to me and do it. Alternatively: The single most asshole stellars jay deciding to do the same thing, tehy like to copy things that upset people cos they're natures asshole.
I've heard some things I cannot explain though, I heard what legitimately sounded like a goblin babbling in a language I don't understand, and used to often. My grandma, a native since the 20s, told me 'that's a coyote, they do that sometimes' but I...don't know how much I believe that. I'm in the Kitsap peninsula on the Salish sea, near the north and we did get some weird accidental imports that seem to have recently died off. (I saw English ferrets 'native' from sailors in my childhood, and heard reports all through the 90s but haven't heard a thing in the last 10 years, so concievably a tiny monkey colony could have existed, but I really doubt they'd be completely unheard of for 80 years. Monkeys are not the most private critters.
@@greenflagracing7067 Or you can stop being a dick and just answer the fucking question.
The Bob Gymlan UA-cam channel has a *GREAT* video on the Ape Canyon Incident.
I like Bob Gymlans channel weird coincidence with the name.
another mvp for bigfoot youtube, love his style.
ape canyon was a made up story
His videos on the Sankebetsu brown bear incident and the Tsavo Lions are 👌
After watching this I have a new appreciation for Bob Gymlan's understated story telling skills.
"mountain dew" actually refers to the condensate outside the apparatus that would commonly have pollen in it that was still collected and sold. It was smokey and lightly greenish.
What are you talking about? I'm just curious.
@@sthomas7064 mountain dew
For part 2, please find some older Washington loggers, especially ones that cleaned up St Helens.
That was the most interesting story about the bodies they discovered at St Helen’s. And if anything it makes the most sense toward their existence. If they are real then the government HAS to know about them. And they’ve made it so that nobody can ever come across one. They’re either living in the most remote corners of the continent or captive
@@geechyguy3441there’s a lot of extremely remote areas in the mountains. People just stick around populated areas but don’t go off the beaten path
@@xanderc1225 Exactly, there are actually many spots in WA that I was thinking of trekking out to in search of them. Do you know any spots?
@@geechyguy3441 head up to the old pasatyen airstrip. It's one of the few places grizzlies and wolverines have been found in Washington.
@@geechyguy3441British Columbia and even parts of the Rocky mountains in Alberta near Calgary have some very, very remote areas. Areas that humans never go to or areas that just a few humans venture near maybe a couple times of year
I was a 10 year old, in my optometrist's office, when I saw an ARGOSY Magazine with Patterson's photo. My interest in cryptos started there, and remain. I lived and still live in Oregon.
1967 or '68.
If you have not already. Check out the Sasquatch Chronicles. Really great podcast.
Holy smokes, Argosy! That is a flashback.
Seen anything strange out there?
@@willemdafoo8244yeah. I saw your mom there
You’re asking the guy if he’s seen anything strange in Oregon?
Depends how close to Portland he is.
Aidan bros, idk if you'll see this but if you do. I highly recommend 'Astonishing Legends' 6-part breakdown of the Patterson Gimlin film and all the misinformation surrounding it. It's extremely thorough
Thinker thunker and the Bob gymlan yt channels both make very good cases and present the evidence very well
Thinker thunker? No. Lol. Jeff meldrum 50th anniversary of the PGF presentation is much better. Monsterquest special on it too.
Mk Davis has the done magnificent work on the PG film.
Bill Munns book on the subject is amazing as well, he was an actual Hollywood expert who worked and made suits for the movie industry back in the 60s and 70s, 80s etc
This was a welcome addition of content to feed my bigfoot addiction when I've already binged all of Bob Gymlan's videos twice over
Liquor-induced fewer dreams? That is an outrage. Don't those canadian bootleggers know it's a felony to supply alcohol to miners?
Oh wow, I didn't know that!
Preemptive like added
Same
Samsies ❤
I do the same thing lol
Yup!
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Well for what it is worth I lived near where the bigfoot prints were seen in 1958. I was 8 years old. A friend of the family who was a logging truck driver told my father and me about these giant human tracks on the log landing. He said whatever it was had picked up a 55 gallon barrel of oil and carried it over to the edge of the landing and threw it off as you could see where it had gouged out a place in the side of the hill where it had hit. He said it was clearly not rolled off. He was perplexed as to what did it as was the rest of the crew. A 55 gallon barrel of oil weighs around 400 pounds.
Ya'll should be posting episode bibliographies. Not just to further legitimize your work, but to encourage peer research and review.
Great work overall.
Yeah I've been replaying the 40+ minute mark over and over trying to catch the sources he passes over so quickly. I haven't been able to find the sources he mentions yet but it sounds like he's going I to more detail next video. Part of the problem is not knowing the spelling of some of these native names.
I completely agree with you!
I’m gonna need you to do a deep dive on the Munns Report. And point out that he’s the only one who was in the special effects industry at the time to weigh in. He shows frame by frame examples of muscle movement.
I was a little kid when I first saw this footage. It was a great show called In Search Of. Leonard Nemoy was the narrator, it was my first exposure to the unknown things in the world. It was a great show.
There’s a UA-cam video with an interview with MK Davis called “the bloody truth”. he was able to track down some original parts of the original Patterson film from Pattersons wife. In the video I just stated Davis shows an enlarged still of patty’s face that is so clear you can see all the features of the face, individual hairs all over even eye lashes and if you look close you can even make out the pupil of the eye. Check out that video, MK Davis has done so much work to find as much of the original footage as possible and has gotten the best quality and it really shows how it can’t be a suit and if it was I doubt they could make a costume that good even today.
Greenwave2010fb is the UA-cam channel name with the video breakdowns.
Come on bro…
The problem there is that the original film has been lost and all that's left are various copies and reproductions of varying quality. When an old film is reproduced the quality degrades. When it's restored the process introduces various artifacts. Because of this any so called details can't be fully taken as truth as they might be an artifact resulting from reproduction and restoration. Because we don't have the original, we can't fully take what we're seeing as fact.
@@jaredthehawk3870 that, and MK Davis has a history of making absurd leeps in logic, like his "massacre" hypothesis, which is based on how red the ground in film looked when he messed with the exposure in photoshop...
The massacre hypothesis makes no sense, even under the most conspiratorial interpretation of the Bigfoot phenomenon...
Came here to also suggest MK Davis's channel. He absolutely demonstrates (in many videos) that it is NOT a person in a suit. The details and evidence in his videos are stunning.
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Trey the explainer made a video of native bigfoot. He researched ower a year. Would be great if you get him for the podcast and discuss!!!
Trey did a damn fine job of dismantling the so-called connections with native myths and stories. He actually helped out the guys with research at Histocrat for the two part episode of their Mythillogical podcast on Bigfoot.
I listened to a costume expert that worked for Lucas on starwars and said if thats a suit I want to see it because we can't even do that today..Chewbaccas costume idea was taken after bigfoot so why was his costume so bad it was baggy and showed no muscles like paddy
I LOVE this channel. The intros, the research, the Aidens, the thoroughness, the hilarity. I'm 38 seconds in and couldnt help but comment love and support. Thank you guys ❤
I feel like I'm gonna have to thank this channel in my bachelor's thesis. It gets much easier to transcribe 14th century charters when you have a cool guy talking in your ear about bigfoot.
That's funny. I agree!
23:33 The reporter takes a good look at the footprint and writes down in his note pad “FOOTPRINT IS 3” DEEP three inches is quite admirable you know”
Thank you!
I heard a theory about why Patty was so calm and not running away. Some think it was trying to distract humans away from her offspring she haad hidden before the camera was rolling. But who knows, ive heard and read of most sightings that they are calm to begin with and have never really run away unless provoked. Who knows though.
Their behavior is variable (which is not surprising since bears' behavior is variable). Sometimes Sasquatches calmly exit, sometimes they dash away, and sometimes they hold their ground and seek to drive the human away through intimidation.
Absolutely dying over Mountain Devils, and especially Bigfussy, thanks Aidan 😂
You could do so many more episodes on PNW Bigfoot, and I very much hope you do. I live just outside of the Olympic National Forest. There are strange things out there. These woods are weird, man.
Im not going to lie, as someone from port angeles, every time he said Sequim as "see-quim" i died a little inside, for future parts aiden the town is pronounced S'quim, the e is silent
Clicked the comments to say that, LOL. My family lives in the area and the pronunciations around there are…unexpected.
No way.
If you watch enough of his videos, you'll know his idea of pronunciation is "If you don't want me to pronounce the letter, don't put it in the word." which he says whenever French words come up.
I'll have to ask him to pronounce two local places, Llanymynech and Pontcysyllte 😂
In what world is an “e” ever silent
You CAN see the shoulder blades and hips move under the skin, especially in the early frames once they are stabilized.
The hair on the ribs and thighs are worn away from the arms swinging, details like that are fascinating.
"Patty" is BIG, the girth of it, the unique walk with it's slightly arched back with flexible knees, coned head, thick short neck, all need to be recognized.
The William Roe Account of Bigfoot describes a slow retreat once startled.
Hate to tell you but Patty doesn’t have a coned head but what your seeing is a ponytail tied up high.
There is also a braid on the side of her head that slightly covers her ear.
Can’t really see any of this detail unless your looking at a good copy of the footage.
Have you heard of MK Davis?
He went to Mrs Patterson and got copies of the master copy.
He’s done some incredible work with that film the past 15 years.
I can link his channel if you like.
@@MJIZZEL I thought of him before I read that haha, MK does some great work
@@MJIZZELI don’t think Mrs. Patterson has the master copy, as it was lost (likely intentionally) long ago. That’s why there are flakes missing and other imperfections he deals with. He refers to it as a master because it’s the best one available, but it’s not the original
@@zacariasnelson5753 naw I'm pretty sure she has the master copy. Besides MK Davis, ive heard others, including David Paelides, Munn talk about going to her and lifting straight from the master copy and how clear it was.
MK paid for her to get the film put on a gold CD also.
Original wasn't lost. I don't know why people say that as much as they do but the Original was sold to someone at Disney of all companies and it was brought to London.
In 98 or 99, someone with access to the original leaked a frame from it and to this day it's the best still frame anyone has seen of the film.
So much clarity on it til you can see a scar or wound on her bottom lip that makes her mouth look bigger than it actually is and not only her hair being up in a ponytail (which is why people think she's a conehead), but you can see a braid brom her hair coming down her face which slightly covers her ear.
I know it will never happen but I pray one day that more frames from the original get released.
Also if you like, I can link to MK Davis and what he found on his copy of the Master.
Hope I helped clear things up for you about that film.
I really hate seeing people like lore lodge and others, looking at what is basically a tenth generation copy (at best) of the film and concluding that you can't see the muscles and ligaments.
I've thought about emailing him a link to mk Davis copy but I doubt they would read it.
It's sad because he reaches 100 times the audience that MK does and he's wrong about it.
@@qscfthn67 well I mentioned him because he is one of the few who've actually gotten a good copy from the master and is nice enough to share his work. Your comment made me think of him but what threw me off is you mentioning a cone head when MK has clearly shown it to be a ponytail.
Don't know how long it's been since you visited his channel but he's been uploading new stuff everyday the past month.
I think its because he got on X and started arguing with the professional skeptics.
Go check it out.
y’all should consider citing your sources in some way. i’ve seen some video essayists flash their citations on the screen for a couple seconds, then leave a full bibliography in the description. maybe that would work here
Thank you for this fact filled program. The minutes flew by and the end music took me by surprise. If all the people who said they were in on the Patterson hoax really were, we could have a convection.
Fact filled? 😂
Kind of wild that Hank Hill and Bertrand Russell were knocking about the South West like that.
Ah, my belief in it actually comes from listening to a bunch of calls to police where people on the line suddenly realize what they’re looking at isn’t human.
I suspect you have already found his works, but I am compelled to direct your attention to Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, Professor of Anatomy & Anthropology at Idaho State University. From his ISU blurb, " He is author of Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science (Tom Doherty Publishers), which explores his and other scientists’ evaluations of the contemporary evidence, and also affords deference to tribal people’s traditional knowledge of this subject."
Addendum: I wrote this before watching, because I'm an excitable idiot. :)
Another Port Angeles, Washington resident here🙋🏼♂️
All I know is that I grew up solo hiking the San Francisco Bay Area for 30 years. Up here I refuse to go out on trail alone. Even with proper gear and properly armed. Even my dog, a white and beige pit bull, acts like he knows he’s being watched. Up here it’s well understood that something’s out there.
The film has been analyzed by many many people. I still haven’t seen a suit that has been that convincing. An expert of old cameras did a test with the exact same camera that was used back then determined that the Patty creature was approximately 7 foot 4 inches tall. This was also backed up by another expert after comparing Patty to the species of trees in the area.
I have to ask if it's possible to correct the transcripts/captions of your videos. My wife is deaf and native American on her mom's side and I really want to share your videos with her but I can't because of the errors in both the captioning and the transcripts of your videos. I know she is likely not the only person who would benefit from accurate captioning/transcripts as even myself with an auditory processing disorder find myself not catching things or being unable to figure out terminology to search to further my own knowledge because searching things like the people that call themselves "O" would be the worst kind of hell and I can't hear what you are saying properly. As a fellow historian I absolutely love the commitment to historical accuracy and the fact you are willing to search for primary sources and also disclose when sources may not be completely solid. I just wish your work was more accessible. I know the captioning being changed a few years back has been it's own kind of hell but I don't know if the transcripts are at least able to be edited so I wanted to reach out and ask to see if that at least could be updated. I really appreciate your videos and hope to be able to share them freely without knowing that sections will be unaccessible to those that have to rely on captions and transcripts.
I've been missing the Lives because of my new work assignment, but I can still catch the videos.
Good work, as always, Aiden & Aiden.
As someone who sees mnt st Helen’s everyday, there’s some strange things that happen in these woods. Also bjgfoot is a local icon here. A local Indian name for Bigfoot is Boqs btw!
All those Little towns and different area tribes in the Pacific Northwest have it woven in their culture to this day they know it exists they don't ask any questions everyday part of life.. You're right
The bulging muscle on the thigh is interesting and has been talked about in countless documentary’s , not to mention most people agree if it was faked that Gimlin wasn’t in on it, which begs the question would you get in a monkey suit and walk in front of a guy that has a loaded high power rifle aimed at you ? Would anyone? Not knowing for sure that he wasn’t gonna pull the trigger . I’ve always thought that was something over looked by most
At 21:30 you say just because they weren't anthropologists you weren't going to trust their opinion. I can tell you I've known some people with maybe an 8th grade education that could tell you what animal made a specific track, how much that animal approximately weighed, at what pace the animal was moving, how long had it been since the animal made the track, and if said animal was wounded or not, along with some other bits of information I'm sure I' be left out. Someone doesn't need a piece of paper to weigh intelligence.
No. But as far as online stories go it definitely doesn’t hurt.
No, but if you don't understand the scientific method than your so called research is garbage.
@@johnnydkota5709dude it’s the internet, saying I have a phd in bullshitting matters just as much 😂
@@jacobveryberry Right
I like your longer episodes much more than the half hour ones simply because I feel like you get so far into the topic you need that long to properly and to my satisfaction, lol. No really you need that long to truly explain your findings. I really enjoy your content and your investigative skills.
I am so happy about an upload, I'm really sick rn and it makes me happy to have a new video to watch
I really don’t think Patty is a guy in a costume. Too much cake and too stacked in my humble opinny. I’ve seen some recent footage that digitally processed her face and you can actually see a small braid in her hair next to her face. 🤷♀️
I may be biased though because I’ve had some Bigfoot experiences myself.
Look up the Xanue Forest people if you want to know the truth about Sasquach
My team and I are planning to go Bigfoot hunting next year. I have some leads of recent reports and we are all hoping for the best. Even if we don't see anything wierd or suspicious, it's going to be a great time.
You will return swinging you arms.
you'll want at least a couple of guys with .300 Winchester Magnums. a buck Foot will yield 400 lbs of meat, so bring a pack horse. Speaking from experience.
Agreed, bring weapons and personal locator beacons. Not doing so, regardless of how trained you are, is silly and reckless. At least with the guns.
@@greenflagracing7067bullshit
Why , how would you feel if someone was hunting you . think about it man .
Just discovered your channel & subscribed. You had me at “Bigfoot” can’t wait to watch your other content. 😊❤
the mountain dew moonshine connection goes deeper than that. The soft drink was invented as a mixer for the hard drink.
Anyone at that time who could build a monkey suit like that would have made millions in hollywood. Who would make a costume better than any movie made at that time and not cash in is beyond me .
I personally don’t think the costume is as high quality as they suggest it was. The film was very poor quality itself, so I’m with Daenig and O’Schmidt in the “it’s inconclusive at best” category.
@TheLoreLodge space odyssey 2001 came out that year.
Even with shitty film quality if its a suit it looks better than all the major motion pictures before it.
My guy. Hobbyists have been making stellar costumes and props for the fuck of it for a long time. Let me introduce you to cosplayers, furries and nerds in general.
Ah the "argument from incredulity" angle, nice logical fallacy bud
You cant show muscle movement in a 60s costume. Plus the hair is always really long to hide the seams, not at all like the pg film.
"The mummies were about 80000 years old" And how did they determine that? Was there a "made in Atlantis in the year 78000 BC" sticker on them?
They were able to decipher 80000 year old Atlantis Text Bro
They just cut them in half and counted the rings. As everyone knows, mummies gain a ring of bandages annually.
@@tyrannosaurusimperatorThat makes a lot of sense
You should throw links to all those other channels into your description. Ain't nobody got time to type stuff! Love your work. Keep doing it.
Washingtonian here, he does this on the reg.
Hey, Aidens. I know you guys always like to do the segments about native american lore where necessary and it's some i really appreciate but have you guys ever actually tried to get in touch with tribal representatives when discussing stuff like Bigfoot? I watched a really interesting video recently by Trey the Explainer, he mostly does historical content but also does religion and mythology stuff once in a while, and he recently explored the links that people keep trying to create between Bigfoot and native american myths and stories. The results were pretty interesting but equally interesting was the fact that he actually got in touch with a representative of the Tule River Indian Council, the place where the "Hairy Man" pictograms are. The person in question seemed overall pretty upset at how non natives are misusing their stories and the fact that non natives are pretending like a lot of these stories are anything more than cautionary tales for children and instead something natives actually believe. One of the examples used was the "basket woman", which Bigfoot "enthusiasts" constantly try to use as some sort of proof, which is clearly nothing more than the native version of Baba Yaga, a story they told their children to teach them to be weary of strangers. They were also pretty upset that people keep reproducing their tribal imagery for profit.
Beyond that it might be really interesting to look into the things he talked about, he brought up a lot of inconsistencies and outright lies in books and articles that try to link Bigfoot to native stories and legends. Some stuff was really flagrant like an author completely misquoting the original story and then pretending they had gotten it from the native storyteller directly when the guy had been dead since 1909.
Sorry if any of this is hard to follow, English is my third language.
Thats a really good idea. Id trust these guys to be respectful and know what to talk and ask about.
@@bloodyneptune My thoughts as well. There's clearly native americans willing to talk about this stuff if people would just reach out to them instead of just taking as real the third or fourth hand accounts of some grifter looking to sell book copies.
Wow, you have great English for someone who's speaking a third language!
Let's keep in mind that to a lot of people Baba Yaga is also extremely serious, and la lorrona, and djinn. Folklore often serves a purpose outside of spiritualism and culture, but that doesn't mean it's not inextricably linked for the people it belongs to, European, Native American, Latin American, Asian, Middle Eastern African, Australian, whoever. Certainly made more complicated by the issue marginalized peoples like native americans have faced but call a spade a spade
Not entirely related, but I do think most people are clear to separate bigfoot and things like the sasq'ets especially these guys, they tend to use it more as supporting evidence or 'hey, a similar legend existed long before but it has a lot of differences, let's think about that' (if you haven't seen other instances of lore lodge discussing bigfoot, I'd encourage that)
@@tannergill8367 Thank you, i'm aware that i do make some mistakes, like not capitalizing my "I"s but that just doesn't make sense to my brain because it's not how my language handles it. Funnily enough i never took any actual English classes, at the time i was growing up German and French were the popular languages in schools here. I learned it from watching Cartoon Network back in the 90s like a lot of other kids in my generation.
You are completely ignoring the work of Thinker Thunker especially his analysis of body ratios which proves that Patty has non-human proportions. Also,his analysis of Sasquatch sounds which prove they could not have been made by humans. Besides,there are enhanced fragments of the footage where bulging muscles are clearly visible under the skin.
Enhancing blurry footage is dicey IMO. It’s less arbitrary with film than digital but still… if the information isn’t there it just isn’t there.
Enhancing blurry footage is kind of like drawing a connect-the-dots with no numbers. You can tell there are a bunch of dots over there, which means detail, and fewer dots over here, which means long straight lines, and you can connect this set of dots in a bunch of ways, but can you actually prove that the image is a Pikachu and not a platypus?
That said, I am a believer, fully convinced by audio recordings and personal stories. It’s just photo evidence that trips my skepticism.
@@linpittsburgh2375 Details of moving muscles become visible from the quads all the way up to the traps. Why bother putting fake breasts on a costume? Much easier to create a male costume.
I have no proof of Bigfoot, monkeys, or any creatures, and I really doubt anyone does. That said, the creature on the PG-Film, is 1000% a real creature, not fake in any way, whatever it is, that's what it organically looks like, and they filmed it.
This is INSANELY comprehensive! I live in the Redding area, I was even on the front page of the "Record Searchlight" when I was a kid and I've always been fascinated by Bigfoot lore. I'm very scientifically minded so I write off a lot of Bigfoot info as hogwash but never have I heard such a comprehensive and well done deep dive into everything Bigfoot, you deserve kudos, big time.
i am SUPER glad u guys are covering this topic! The fact that bigfoot mania only started in the 20th century when the native people would have a much better understanding of the lands and what was out there always bothered me. I know your gonna cover their stories and what they have seen and experience, and im all for it! Can't wait to see more from this series!
Whenever I see the Patterson film I think oh that's a guy in a Bigfoot outfit. Walks and moves just like a Human. Just my opinion. 💯🆘🇺🇸
Nonsense! You can clearly see the inhuman muscle movements under the fur from 100 feet away with film quality that make Manos:The Hands of Fate look HD.🙃
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I completely agree with you!
Hey Aiden. People of my generation who were in speak very very highly of your uncle. You are doing good work here too. Keep it up!
Hey guys, I LOVE the native folklore, I think it adds a lot to these stories
my family is of Native American blood, and these stories are total cringe when not outright insulting.
@@greenflagracing7067 im genuinely curious. Is it because of misinformation, mispronounced words, appropriation of completely unrelated myths, all of the above or something else?
@@regulargoat7259 These stories or folklore or traditions repeated over generations are more than just bedtime stories or explanations of why the wind blows. They're about who a tribe, or a band within a tribe is or where the members came from or what makes the People different from the others. Remember these are stories from their perspective. These stories might be wrapped up in myth but they teach shared values and right behaviors. it's their cultural or ethnic identity. Misappropriation of myth into cartoons and images on mud flaps or plaster casts, or the fraudster who'll take you on a paid "bigfoot expeditions" where howling dogs and having rocks thrown at you will give you the whole "big foot experience" is a good way of putting it.
I completely agree with you!
😂 best opening ever. Been watching your channel for over a year and love it. Finally trued your coffee and both me and my roommate agree it is the smoothest coffee ever. Love it!
I’m glad you like everything!
Awe I love that! I really like his channel too!
Super excited for this series! I am actually in the post-production phase of bringing Roosevelt's "Goblin Story" to life in audio format. Looking forward to seeing what other wild man/big man lore I had never heard of so that I can sound like an even more insane conspiracy theorist.
Love your channel. Thanks
By the way there was a sighting by tenino WA a few days ago. Also it's pronounced squim, the E is silent.
I live in the Sierra Nevada's and I have heard and seen things that I can't explain, and my dad talked about some of the stuff he encountered while hiking the Pacific Crest Trail in the 70's and honestly if there were a group of large primates in the woods up here I would not be surprised. I'd also say that the Patterson footage being fake because they were already making a Bigfoot film is a fallacy, wouldn't it make sense that the people looking for it and filming in the area it supposedly exists in would be the ones to film it? Other issues I can understand, but that one has always bothered me. Also as far as I know none of the people calling the footage a fake have successfully duplicated the footage using technology available at the time.
I just discovered this guy. Darn he's freaking awesome! Keep it up.
I love the way you cover any given topic, and I'm very excited to see where this series goes
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I've researched this film so much it makes my head hurt to think about it. I've spent hours arguing misinformation on Facebook, especially about Bob H. That guy is was and always will be a joke. Now as for the film itself, I've watched it million times both in it's original format and in the stabilized version. After watching the University Gait Study on monster quest ( the one and only TV series on this subject I've ever given any credence to, btw) I lean more towards it being real, but I'm still on the fence a bit. Anyhow, you annoy the crap out of me sometimes, but I can see you and your team do your best to get things right and look at things from every angle possible, and personally I think you knocked this one out of the park. We might not agree on the conclusions, but you still did a hell of a job with it, and you don't even have one tenth of one percent of the research time I've put into this film and this creature. I will give you a source to talk to, so hopefully you read this. There is a Native American lady in the Southwest that is trying to help people on the reservations deal with these creatures, because they are a very real problem. You can get ahold of Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles and get her name, as my memory fails me at the moment. But she is a very kind lady and I'm sure she wouldn't mind talking to you.
Thank you for the timestamp past the ad more UA-camrs need to do that much love 🙏❤️
The idea of being stalked by an unknown creature and then disappearing in the woods without trace is truly nightmare fuel. Especially at night with all the noises that suddenly fall silent.
I’m from kelso 40 min from Toledo which was mentioned. I’ve heard from old loggers and stories past down from peoples grandpas of Bigfoot being pretty prominent anywhere from mt st Helen’s to Long Beach. Personally never seen or heard anything in my years hunting and camping across the state but I always hope I do. I’ve been interested in Bigfoot since I can remember it’s a big deal over here, keep up the content
The little comedy gags you guys do are absolute gold
I agree with what you said!
I was waiting for a sasquatch episode. I have seen one so im very interested to hear your perspective and findings.
hi I am a resident of Indiana about 30 minutes away from Indianapolis. This story is true and I will try my absolute hardest to answer any questions with specific details. This all happened between June 2022 and September 2022. I know the June part because I have a video of my drunk friend Kyle at the place where this happened promising to raid a Kona ice truck with me the next day, I do lean more towards September though because I remember it being kind of cold and one of the last times we were gonna be able to go out there that year.
my friends Sy and Kyle were fishing at a parks river that was connected to Geist and invited me and my buddy Cody out to fish with them around 8:30pm. we both weren't too keen on fishing but we went just to chill because we all generally got along well. when we first arrived they came up and said hi to us and gave a brief explanation of how the nights been so far. the gist was "the fishing was shit but the times were good." they also causally mentioned in a joking manner that they heard movement around them and Kyle said something along the lines "don't worry Sam ill take it on with my bareeee handdssss" now its been 2 years but I'm like 99% sure he said some cocky remark along those lines. Kyles the type of guy to say some shit like that. we all brushed it off and thought it was funny and ended up hanging around the campfire for a while.
now some notable things that happened between now and when I first saw it were.
we did throw a dead battery from a light we had into the fire to see what would happen idk if battery's make you see crazy shit but yk we did it. I don't think it explains us all seeing the same thing even if it had some effect on us.
2 Sy drank a beer and so did Kyle but not me and Cody we both are sober people.
3 we didn't catch any fish which was kind of lame.
at around 10pm we all were kind of ready to go home because of how dark it had gotten and how bad the fishing was. We were about to start packing. now this park has a small trail and at the end of it is a big open lake. I thought "hey before we leave for good we might as well walk to the lake and see it then walk back to the cars" everyone generally thought this was a good idea and we were gonna start walking once packed.
they were about 80% done packing when I decided I'm gonna start ahead of them a little bit so I walked about 300 feet down the trail until I saw some huge white thing move from the right side of the path to the left side pretty far down the trail. this honestly scared the shit out of me but I had no flashlight and in all honesty I though to myself "hey that seemed creepy as fuck but it might have been a deer and I might just be fucking crazy" so I walked back to the group and since I was 2 years younger than sy and Kyle I didn't wanna mention it less I get called a pussy, which was pretty much a death sentence for my ego since at the time I was a sophomore.
after they finished packing we all got ready to walk and got a little further down on the trail than I did on my own. and then with a flashlight shined down the trail we saw it. now this being 2 years ago I don't remember everything but here some stuff I do 100% know I saw. It walked on all fours. its joints didn't move when it walked, I had no fur only pale skin. it was thin and you could see its spine protruding from its back the same way you can see someone's ribs when they're mal nourished, and it had a short neck with an unidentifiable face, it probably stood about 5-6ft. it walked very fast from one side to the other and genuinely felt "evil"
I just called Kyle explained this post and asked him to do his best to describe it to me, the only thing that differed in his decryption was it stood on two legs and was a little taller.
after calling Kyle I called sy and had him do the same. He gave a much deeper description. it walked on four legs but came up once and stood on the back two "it was kind of like the front two legs were arms that it could also walk on." he said the creature was long. said the joints didn't move. he also said it had no feet kind of a nub which I 100% remember and agree with, Skin looked like it was stretched over its body to the point you could see bones. "like wearing a shirt that's way to small"
after we saw it we all stood in baffled, frozen in fear. I asked "we all saw that right" and everyone said yes, Cody was behind us so he didn't see the full thing but 100% agrees he saw a flash of white and agrees it happened
we immediately turned around and started back to the cars me and sy were behind looking at where we saw it, Kyle and Cody were looking forward leading us back to where we parked. once we got out of the wooded trail sy said he saw it for a second watching us leave stating "it must have gone into the woods about 30 feet and kept pace with us as we left." I remember getting into my car scared as fuck our immediate was that we must haver seen a skinwalker but I'm not so sure after all this time. we all 100% believe in what we saw and after bringing it up to Cody, Kyle, and Sy we know what happened happened.
I live about 6-7 minutes away from where this happened and am honestly terrified that one day ill see it again. I'm posting this in a few subreddits looking for answers and thoughts on it and ill be here to answer any questions you have. thank you for reading my account of the story.
Washington transplant here, I was told that Sequim was pronounced more like “Squim,” is that incorrect? Great vid nonetheless, really looking forward to Part 2!
Yeah, your right, port angeles native and the retirement home known as Sequim is pronounced squim. I think that Aiden doesn't know that cause he lives on the other side of the country
Love the way the channels growing ❤️❤️
Looking forward to the rest of the series great job my guy
Maybe Bigfeet just want us to teach them how to make cabins. They're tired of sleeping in the bushes, damn it!
Looking for a good bikini wax too
ThinkerThunker's analysis of the Pattie film is worth a watch. He isolated frames where the front of the foot pivots upward, indicating a midtarsal break.
The Patterson & Gimlin is still a classic by all right! The Ape Canyon incident is also wonderful video.
After watching this, I've learned that being born in October should make me related to Bigfoot with all these October sightings
I hope he makes a video on the Vietnam Rock Apes
TFW UA-camrs are ten years younger than you and you are barely keeping it together. Love your content, guys.
First time being this early. Feels the same
Same here and agreed, Good'ay.
Given that Supernatural montage took me back several years, would you guys ever consider doing a series reviewing the creatures tackled in a specific series (instead of Lycans broadly, talking about the interpretation of werewolves in something like Supernatural and comparing to historical lore)?
I'm so happy you guys are covering Bigfoot!
I love your content❤
I'm glad you made this vid, I'm about to watch it, but before I do, I wanted to chip in:
My friends grandpa told us a story of when he was a kid in the 60s, his logger uncle came by during a holiday get together, and told them the story of how some kind of "save the trees" or "save the owl" type protestors would show up and like lock themselves to trees, so they would leave a man behind overnight to guard the camp. One morning they arrived and their equipment was scattered all over the place, tractors turned over, 55gal drums of diesel tossed in the trees. They asked themselves "where's John?" Or whatever the person's name was, they found him in the lodge shack up against a wall pointing a shotgun out and shaking and scared, and he told them "it was F'ing bigfoot!". Claims a "family", mother and father and son and daughter, of Bigfoot came in, and the mom/daughter one pounded on the cabin and scared him while the father/son tore up the camp. That was the story he was told in the 60s by his logging uncle. Now to enjoy the video!
I delivered the Albany Democrat-Herald from 1980 to 1985.
And minus 5 years in the USMC, I’ve lived in western Oregon since 1970.
Everyone tell Aiden he should contact me about local weirdness.
I can give him the “Gravity Falls Tour”.
Or the “Goonies” tour.
Or the “Stand By Me” tour.
I just moved to the area a couple weeks ago from Michigan and I'm very curious to know about these tours!!?
Congrats on 400k subs guys!
I've definitely clearly seen the sliding thigh bulge on Patty. It looks like a detached or badly torn muscle to me. Which may be why she doesn't run away.
The reason why people compare the Patty "suit" to the 1968 planet of the apes is because they were from basically the same time period. You can't compare a suit from 2001 movie to the Patty film of 67, obviously in 2001 technology got much, much better and the suits were more realistic