CNN - Being FAT is Now ILLEGAL in Japan.
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Being FAT is Now ILLEGAL in Japan.
Is it a good idea or not?
Would you like if USA Government will make some kind of rules about being overweight?
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They should seriously have this in America... Wow!
Maybe not to the extremes, he didn't seem THAT fat to me, but I love the idea where all the coworkers do mini workouts twice a day.
nice
He wasn't fat at all. You guys need to keep in mind Japan has among the highest death rates induced by eating disorders per capita in the world; along with highest rates of stroke, diabetes, and gastric cancer. As someone who grew up in a Japanese home [mother's], I can understand that "thin" is seen as healthy no matter what in our culture. BULLSHIT! Obsessing over weight is ANYTHING but healthy. America simply needs to promote more healthful fast food eateries and choices. At Japanese convenience shops they sell fish and rice balls, as in REAL FOOD to teens and workers. 7-11's here sell nothing like that.>n
I thought the biggest problem related with eating in Japan was stomach cancer because of the habit of eating food before it cools down.
what? i disagree, being "fat" shouldn't be illegal, that"s a lot of people to be arrested (i think).
Lev Sagan this is why UA-cam is such BS. I wonder how many people read your comment and believed it without looking into it. Almost everything you said is wrong. France and Austria have the highest rates of eating disorders. Also Japan ranks towards the extremely low end of strokes and diabetes. They are widely considered to have the healthiest diets on earth. Maybe it was just your family who suffered from obesity because you moved to the west.
I feel bad as an American because its kind of our fault that we gave them all this mcdonalds and American food
don't blame it
on Macdonalds etc. Japan has plenty of
home-grown fatty foods. Like ramens beef bowls etc
Well atleast they eat their own traditional food in smaller portions
I hit the gym here in Japan 3X a week+. But most guys who work for regular Japanese companies don't have time for any of that because they're working (and stress eating) all the time. And don't blame it on Macdonalds etc. Japan has plenty of home-grown fatty foods. It's not that they're eating American food -- it's that they're working too much and eating crap like ramen, beef bowls and other super fatty stuff, and topping that off with massive amounts of alcohol after work.
One question, are things expensive in Japan? Food, House.. etc.
6 years ago hi
I wish the U.S. would implement this.
I wish you'd move to Siberia too, but !
There would be a riot
@@maenad1231 it might have even higher chance of Civil War than Division between Democrats and Republicans.
Me too
@@arnoldstallonereeves7469
In a weird way I think it would bring both parties together for once. I can easily imagine both sides getting equally triggered by this.
she was measuring his hips not his waist and she included his belt in the measurement....
Fat acceptance and body positivity made things worse, that even me felt like i don't wanna be fat anymore and start dieting and working out to become masculine in an old fashioned way
0:20
HE'S NOT EVEN FAT!! And he wouldn't have any weight related health risks.
I can understand that having checkups and waist measures is a good idea to manage weight and keep an eye on it. But still, FINING someone's company because someone's a bit overweight, and making it ILLEGAL to be overweight??!! This discrimination is appalling!!
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@@violet-trash, L+ratio
It might sound discriminating, but I agree. not just in Japan, but other countries with an obese population like USA Australia etc should encourage employees to shed some kgs down.
It is not your jobs business. They pay you to work there.
This should be manditory in every country with national healthcare.
@@violet-trash No it shouldn't.
Now that’s what I call Fat Shaming
We need this in the US
Is it really the same measurement for everyone, regardless of height? That seems a little unfair for those who are very short.
in asia, being short is the norm. my gf is 158cm. im 190cm, below average for a dutch person.
Just like the bmi that measures white fat index but not bmi of more active ethnicities and nationalities.
...and if you are a Sumo or a forward for the Cherry Blossoms?
I'm 6'2" 155lbs which is anorexic medically but my waist is still 34 inches...I even have abs when I flex and I workout 4-5 times a week and take walks almost every day but I guess that's still not enough. It sucks beeing anorexic and obese at the same time.
Then I’m pretty sure you’re not obese... they just have a ridiculous system placed
It's a racist system. Many blacks and Caucasians are naturally heftier.
We need this in America.
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No we don't. It be one more way to discriminate. If we did get rid of businesses for the food propaganda.
Wholeheartedly agree, the obesity rate in the US is very disturbing
I think it was a bad call for the Japanese government to use waist size. It does not account well for outliers with different body types. It should be based on an optimal or "acceptable" body fat percentage. Women being about 10% more than men.
There are far less people in a population that will fall out of that healthy fat range that are still healthy.
This law is so messed up. I just found out about it today.
i support it
This law is a good idea though I think it needs to be less ridged and more flexible to accommodate for natural diversity.
Once Twice I am okay with this until the guy can prove he has some rare disease or genetic disorder he shouldn't have an excuse to be this fat.
@@Xarai Why?
@@od3stroyer771 the health standards are dropping in society fat ppl everywhere regardless of how easy it is to not be fat
people toss food away left and right trash everywhere, etc. so many problems stem from people over eating. not just seeing ugly fat people
Easy solution would be to make McDonalds illegal in Japan. LOL
Wait a minute - I totally agree with the principle here. But don't you think their standards of what is overweight is a tad strict? They consider a waist size of 33.5 in men overweight - I wear a size 34 in jeans and in no way is that overweight. If they are going to make being overweight illegal, which I don't disagree with, at least raise the limit.
The standards would be different in the west. Just like the BMI exists in the west and a different one for Asians. Size 34 for a white man can be overweight, depends on the frame of the man.
2:00 could we imagine a US government that will have you fired if you did not get injected with the COVID
Nah, that would never happen, right?
Good
I doubt the reality is quite how CNN portray it here.
I understand your point but, you can't deny that overweight/obese people generally have higher blood pressure, cholesterol, and diabetes levels. We can't scapegoat the blame on people's thyroids and metabolism. Most people in the United States are overweight due to poor eating habits and physical inactivity.
The weight limit should be larger for men than women, not the other way around...and it should be dependent on the height and musculature of the person!
The waistline measurement parameter, 33.5"/35.4" is based on the International Diabetes Federation recommendation for Japanese only (other ethnic groups have different parameters) as an easy guideline for identifying weight-related ailments, T-2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancers. And regarding the 35.4" for women it is because of the way fat is stored for childbirth. After menopause, that fat, which was stored in the buttocks, thighs, and hips, move to the abdominal area and is more difficult to lose. Childbirth and menopause, issues men do not experience.
geekeing
Waist measurements are not as accurate as people may think, they want to fight obesity, obesity is caused by having a high bodyfat percentage. A skinny person can be deemed overweight when their bodyfat percentages are checked, hence in exercise science, we use the term skinny fat (physically they look normal, but because of the lack in muscle tissue, they have a higher body fat percentage which is bad). If they really want to fight obesity, they need to use a bod pod or dexa scan, which are some of the most accurate machines out there.
Taka Miyauchi
In a perfect world, your recommendation would be excellent, but in a practical world your idea is too expensive. With a less than 5% obesity ranking, obesity is not a serious issue in Japan. The prime goal of the metabo mandate is to maintain a low number of weight-related conditions; T-2 diabetes ,cardiovascular disease, certain cancers etc. among the national healthcare membership, maintain low healthcare costs. As you, no doubt, know we Asians suffered from weight-related issues at a lower weight than Westerners. and with 44% of Japanese Nationals entering age 40+ and the growing popularity of Western-type fast foods the metabo mandate which will educate, teach moderation and supplement the custom of frank discussion about weight among Japanese Nationals. It's not a perfect solution but it is a start.
Taka Miyauchi
Thank you for opening my awareness about the bod pod. I hadn't heard of it before and found this device quite fascinating. Also about the condition of skinny fat. Do you think, given their lifestyle, a high percentage of Japanese Nationals might suffer from this condition? Quite certain a good percentage of Americans do but as Japanese Nationals have the highest potential for long lifespan, might they?
geekeing
You are welcome, the bod pod is indeed a very fascinating device, I personally use it myself when I prep for my competitions in Physique, luckily for me, it is free to use as my school has one in my department. I am guessing you are asking me about the issue of obesity or overweight problems in Japan? If not, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I personally believe, that Japanese people in general have a much healthier diet than some of the western countries, which contributes to long lifespan. Having said that, it is true that there is a growing popularity in western foods such as mcdonalds, burger king, etc. However, because Japan has such a good transportation system, people walk everywhere, which also contributes to the low rates in terms of diabetes, cardiovascular diseases. I am not sure if you have ever been to Japan, but in Japan, you really do not need a car, as the train pretty much takes you anywhere you want, as well as buses. While fast foods are a problem in for example, the united states, another problem is the fact that the US lacks a good transportation system, which is understandable taking into consideration how big the states are, which makes it harder to build train tracks, stations, etc. I do not think eating fast food or western foods or any food for that matter will make too much of a difference, but like you suggested, moderation is key, and because people in Japan walk daily, probably more than what the ACSM recommends for a healthy lifestyle, I do not see the rates increasing for diabetes, etc.
we need this!
@Sazad93 Yes, it's a choice in the US. We have healthy food everywhere. Different states have higher overweight rates than others, etc. CDC published a study that stated obesity has trippled in last 10 yrs. This IS indicative that its a choice. Other nations that force their women to wear Burkas ADMITTEDLY is not a question - it's fact. Dont need to live there especially since may of my friends are from these places. Youll find ur accurate study on the CDC website - eating healthy is a choice.
This is a bit Orwellian... as in the book 1984. I'll leave with a quote: “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the blood stream. It must be fought for and protected and handed on for them to do the same. Or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and grandchildren what is used to be like in the United States when men were free.” - Ronald Reagan
Americans are out of control. I think it's about 67% of the US is overweight and about 33% obese. Pretty soon it's going to 50% obesity in the states which would be insane.
I'm a very healthy 145 lbs and my waist is 37 inches around. That's "overweight" in Japan. Come on.
its not true
People could have a little pound or two but not being obese, some people will not do anything about their weight or lifestyle if no drastic measures are taken
THIS IS NUTS!! KINDA AWESOME THOUGH! LOL.
it's not illegal , just frowned upon . so it's literally the contrary of america where being fat is random and even "celebrated" . those are sad times/
36 inches is overweight? At 36 inches my ribs are sticking out. Asian peoples are a leaner build. That is a fact.
We can solve this problem for lower income people by reforming the food stamp system. Food stamps should only be accepted for real food. Not chips, cookies, soft drinks etc. Food stamps should only be used for food products such as produce ie:fruits, vegetables, and raw uncooked meat and fish. Food stamps should be good for only juice not drinks. ie Florida Orange Juice, NOT Sunny Delight. This will help to limit obesity, cholesterol, blood pressure, and diabetes issues for lower income people.
It may be a law but it is not enforced. There are PLENTY of fat people in japan and nothing happens to them as far as legalities are concerned.
If you were going to rip a video and repost it on your own account, at least be better than the previous poster and create a more educated criticism instead of repeating exactly what that previous poster said.
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That Japanese man could have fasted the day before his measurement check, instead he expect the extra atoms/mass to perform miracles. Silly man. The food is ok, but it's all about calories when it comes to bodyweight.
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Will tourist from other countries like the US, Canada, or even the UK that are visiting Japan be fined if they're over weight
All that mcdonalds does not add up to over 1,000 calories...
I hope being fat is wrong
The exercise bit reminds of a george orwell movie...
this is utterly ridiculous , this is based on the reasoning that all people are born with the same metabolism
a lot of people don't know this but for some people no matter how much they diet they will always be fat and those who have high metabolism or suffer from an overactive thyroid have no choice but to eat high carb foods to stay alive
I wish people would stop assuming that being fat automatically makes you unhealthy and just took a look at their genetics
I hope they don't do this in America.
Orwell was a writer.
If I have to wear a seatbelt for my safety legally, then fat people should be illegal too. It is not safe to be fat.
Start off a sentence with a racist comment.
@Sazad93 It's not *my* trail of thought. Its what the founding fathers of the US envisioned. The govt is NOT to act as the parent of its citizens. Suicide isn't enforcable. Negative vs positive interference isnt the quesiton. And if it was, whos to say what is in fact positive? Thats a relative thing. Freedom and judgement aren't mutually exclusive. If someone wants to be free and be fat doesn't mean they aren't judged.
So more stress in work will help them go to pretty much anorexic weights. Seems legit.
Im all for being healthy but how does this really help people? Everyones metabolism is different and age messes it up even more, and some people just remain at a certain weight no matter how much they exercise. This just sounds like discrimination, is a violation of their human rights, and is something no government should have control over. That being said go healthy is a very good idea. But i don't think this is the right way.
Because I have a slim waist I have to have my clothes custom made in the USA.
First, please show where you originally got this video from (I assume it's /watch?v=L1hqHo6lyUU). Secondly, it would be helpful that you show when this was implemented--in 2008. Thirdly, you could have at least created a more educated title and description: it is NOT illegal, it has repercussions but it is NOT illegal. More importantly it's for people OVER 40 years old.
Another aspect of this is it absolutely hurts business - what does a company (a private & separate entity in US) have to do with it's employees and their eating habits? Companies have nothing to do with the private lives of it's employees. The more I re-watch and analyze this is just plain ridiculous and is a sham for the govt to score some more cash. So if 10 companies face the same fate of NEC that's almost $200MM for the govt lol. Looks like a good biz opp to me. Big govt ain't good.
BASED
Another potential solution would be to have doctors prescribe their patients exercise physiologists and registered dietitians, instead of medicines for blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. These medicines only treat the symptoms but they do not solve the larger problem of poor diet and physical inactivity.
Japanese drs only took into account innercity small people not genetically active and tall workers.
Im an Athiest American. I agree
Absolutely f***cked up. Govt should NOT tell me whether or not I'm fat, when Im' fat and waht to do about me being fat.
We are a FREE society. more and more Americans are losing this notion and supporting things like what the video poster suggested. Is this ok for America!? Ya, it's ok just as much as if it's ok to tell you exactly how to raise your child.
I wish it were that way in the USA
This law is a good idea though I think it needs to be less ridged and more flexible to accommodate for natural diversity.
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What about sumo wrestlers
I understand wanting people to be healthy, but forcing them to be under a certain weight is wrong. Being obese is unhealthy, but it shouldn't be illegal. :( I feel so bad for that man, he wasn't even that big, I wouldn't consider him to be a fat guy.
@Sazad93 No, I was never asked anything about the status of my health when I received medical plans from my country. They simply asked the type I wanted which was HMO or PPO. So you are incorrect again. The CDC states that obese / overweight spend $~1500 more than non-obese people in health care cost. Not that much. this includes diabetes needs and strips which are very expensive. And 4.5 years? Who cares. Still doesnt mean I need to be FORCED to be skinny by a govt who shouldnt have concern
@Sazad93 Whats not illegal? There is a fine if you are fat. That makes it illegal. US companies don't pay more if you are overweight. You get insurance period. Never have I been asked to take a fat test when I receive insurance thru a company. So that def makes it different than the US. Our govt has better stuff to think about than if people are fat. Thats the job of the individual not the govt. IMO its a way in which govt can squeeze more money from the people and spin it as som'n positive.
What about sumo wrestlers?
What's the fine if you are over weight?
Eleni Georgiou something like not getting all your money double taxes some shit like that
ban fastfood
Comprehending what you have been told is important. The law is saying that if a company's employees reach a certain "Fatness" level, they could face fines and increased health care premiums.
That is NOT, I repeat for the uploader of this video NOT the same thing as saying it is ILLEGAL to be fat.
We know what is good for you,whether you like it or not.What is next?They tell us what we can read?
Human rights violation? *puts finger on tip of nose*
@Sazad93 No clarification needed. Our govt isn't saying pizza is a vege. & Taking pizza off grade school menus does not equal the billions of dollars japan will benefit from lol. Nice try, but very far reach. In fact, they didnt say pizza was a vegetable, they stated that it had enough tomato based ingredients to qualify it as eatable for young kids in schools. Congress NEVER declared pizza as a vegetable. You need to realize that your country is spinning things incorrectly.
I don't disagree with you on that, but the overweight/obese stigma should not be thrown at all people especially if their born that way. but yes you are right people are getting fat by eating crap, but they are choosing to eat bad food, and in some way they have no choice because a healthy diet sometimes is not affordable in the current economic crisis, when people need to eat on a budget sometimes fast food is cheaper the healthy food and I yes it is horrible but until someone can fix it==>
I'm surprised chains like McDonald's are taking off in Japan anyway. Japanese cuisine tastes SO much better!
@EmilioCasavegas 1986 was made into a movie. You know about telivision right?
No wonder their suicide rate is so high. Stressful jobs that over work you, long hours, forced execise, body shaming and not even able to eat what you want. I would jump out a window too.
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yet americans don´t have the freedom to choose GMO or non GMO foods
But what do they do about people who have diseases like hypothyroidism? People with hypothyroidism can exercise often and eat very healthy, but still gain weight.
==> fast food is just going to be the more affordable for the low income folks.
all I'm is that we shouldn't blame people for being fat when its the broken system that's being lead by corrupt corporate scum leading them to being fat
Defeating your life
There is no harmful to keep fit.
Disagree. If you workout at the gym and have terrible form and don’t put in the time to learn you can easily injure yourself.
@@smoker6683You think Being fit is lifting weights?? Get educated.
@@doc_vader2776 You do realize you can do more at the gym than lift weights, right?
@@smoker6683 I said lift weight because you said Terrible form.
What else have form, other than weight training?
@@doc_vader2776 Running has form... Pretty sure most types of exercise have form.
this should be in america..
They need to do this in America
White people would lose their minds. They average 40 waistlines.
fat- of course, but what about muscle? It make sense for the average build type in Japan to meet that goal, but there are always physical exceptions and racial interbreeding which create larger specimens? What do you suggest man over 6 feet does? Cut the pure lean Muscle off his bones? This law can have a serious backlash for people who aren't even fat at all.
Why should we pay extra on medical insurance to subsidize fat peoples same as with smoking
I'm an American bodybuilder. There's no way my gigantic body frame can shrink under 33 inches to fit their criteria. I don't want to be a skinny little bitch boy. I love my 36 inch waist and I'm not even near embarrassed because I carry 10 times the muscle of those Japanese guys.
@Sazad93 I didn't judge anyone. I used an example of how govt control results in a loss of freedom. Women who are forced to wear som'n they dont want to or if a person is forced to take a fat test is a loss of freedom & violation of personal rights.The fact that you think women opt to wear a Burka shows youre not aware. Americans don't subscribe to govt control. I'm a diabetic & watch the quantity & type of my intake. It's not hard & Im not or have ever been overweight.
It is not possible to go to waistline 33 for people in other parts of the world..Japanese people have a thin frame that's why it might have been possible there..if you take a regular American, his skeleton's waist itself may be more than 35😂😂
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@Sazad93 I haven't been to McDonalds or Dominos, etc... in about three months. If you go everyday - it's a choice. If you eat fried twinkies it's a choice. Private companies shouldnt' be forced to pay when you can easily stop jamming cupcakes and double cheese burgers down your throat. That's the bottom line. Japan's govt is simply capitalizing on this *choice* and gaining monetarily from it.
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Cap
$19,000,000 in fines for NEC!?? So what happens if some of it's employees dont lose weight, fired? Don't get that raise or bonus? They will have to recoup costs. They now play exercise music twice a day!?!? hahahhah - I hope they all enjoy being treated like abunch of hamsters lolol
Its a great idea if you don't slim down you can't use the free healthcare because of your own laziness.
2:00 Oh great, set him up for failure. Walk doesn't cause fat loss. Less calories while using a little resistance training to preserve muscle mass does. He needs a calorie meter and a little resistance training.
You could just tell the Japanese authorities that youre training to become a sumo wrestler.
yeah, but i think sumo wrestlers are healthy. n i don't know any 300lb+ that can bench press their own weight, to push ups, or even run a few miles a day. hell, i've seen a sumo wrestler with a six pack, n he was ripped. my dad is overweight, n he's cholesterol is @ 50, his immune system is good, blood pressure is normal. i believe if one chooses to be overweight, there is a way to do it n keep healthy, then the other way is unhealthy. my grandma was overweight n she passed away at teh age of 90
wow what a great idea
stupid idea
ONLY IN JAPAN
make not male
but its not illegal for us the guest right? because u cant arrest a guest because its too fat and dont know the rule
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This is rediculous
Found the fat person 🫵🤣
Kelly Shibari. Look her up.
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