LOL Brooke put in a Player CD. Those who don't know, Player is the rock band that Ronn Moss (Ridge) was a member of. Brooke puts in the CD and it is Player's biggest hit Baby Come Back. I bet they laughed about that.
@@tfgh521 Me too. I always thought that having been a real rock star gave Moss the playboy energy needed to play Ridge. He had women fighting over him in real life and had to play in front of large crowds of screaming women. Being Ridge was natural. Made him believable as a designer. New Euro Ridge is not believable as a designer.
Karen is not a person that Brooke should listen to. She is not a good friend. She doesn’t have a problem destroying Macy and Thorne’s marriage and now she helping and encouraging Brooke to do the same thing to Taylor and Ridge. What a shame!
Brooke schemed against a rape victim, her mother/siblings and broke up Eric & Steph's marriage. Karen and Brooke were fast friends because they're two of a kind. Caroline's cancer meds fried her brain and that is why she thought Ridge should reunite with Brooke, the woman pregnant by his married father.
@@donkeygospel6 yes, that's right. Anthony comes on the show in the fall of 1993 and stays on the show a little less than two years. But in my opinion, Anthony doesn't go bad - he is bad from the start and there is a ton of foreshadowing to be found if you are watching for the second time and know how his story ends. Anthony's character arc has a very nice shape at the beginning and the end, but kind of goes into a holding pattern in the middle.
@@donkeygospel6 yes. It takes a very long time before they are actually back together, which is why I always felt that their original story ended with their wedding in 1995. That was the payoff of *years* of complications and a natural end point for their story. Their storylines after that point didn't have the same clear sense of direction towards a goal.
@@donkeygospel6 Sheila did the same thing to Brooke this year on the current episodes. Switched the labels on the champagne bottles so Brooke thought she was drinking non-alcoholic booze. Shelia is horrible.
@@trinit2108 I think Anthony worked the best as a bad guy. The part in the middle where he doesn't do much of anything feels just like the writers are treading water with him. But the beginning and the end of his story fit very well together. I feel that him going psycho was always latent in his character, he always had that "look" in his eyes, it was the nice guy part that didn't quite fit.
The thing about home wrecker friendships is they eventually turn on each other. Case in point: Karen will betray Brooke and steal Connor Davis from her. 😂
@@ministryofwrongthink9847 why am I a Karen? It’s a show. I love all of the actors playing these characters. We all have trouble with the writing. The women are always shamed for being whores, yet nothing about the men’s behavior. Maybe we should stop putting women down. Brooke & Taylor slept with practically all of the same men. Maybe we should just say that Ridge is a selfish man who really doesn’t deserve either of these beautiful women.
I've always thought that Macy becoming an alcoholic was a PERFECT fit for the character - it just somehow seemed _right_ - but it isn't until now that I've finally realized why. It is because Macy's character type, or at least the character's "natural habitat", is the realm of the "Shakespearean tragic female" (I don't want to say "tragic heroine" because that implies a level of control over the plot that these women don't have). First, of course, there was Juliet. The parallels between Romeo/Juliet and Thorne/Macy caught between their rivaling families are hard to miss (and even explicitly referred to on the actual show). However, another interesting point is that the downfall or Romeo and Juliet was a case of miscommunication turned fatal - lack of simple communication is also the root cause of many of Thorne and Macy's problems. Then there was Desdemona. At first, this is not immediately obvious because it is less literal. But the dynamic between Thorne and Macy often takes on an Othello/Desdemona vibe, with Thorne being insecure of Macy's loyalties to the point where he sees betrayal even where it isn't there (whether romantic or professional), and punishes Macy unfairly for it. I don't think I would have spotted this at all if it hadn't been for the end of the Anthony Armando storyline, where Macy is cast as Desdemona in a much more apparent, non-metaphorical, way (and Thorne is "cleared" of his Othello characteristics by Anthony absorbing them instead). And now finally there's Ophelia, the woman driven to insanity and self-destruction by her lover Hamlet's inexplicable rejection and mistreatment. Of course, while Ophelia literally drowns herself, Macy ends up drowning herself in alcohol. (Although there is an occasion years later when Macy actually does try to drown herself in the ocean as well, out of grief after losing both her father and the man she loves - incidentally the exact same reason that Ophelia goes mad and drowns.) Throughout her character history, Macy alternates between these three "character models". She is not exactly like Juliet, Desdemona, or Ophelia, but contains elements from all three. Sometimes she is more one, sometimes more another. But she always works best as a character when she stays close to at least one of them. And they are all quite similar in that they are ultimately victims of love.
@@donkeygospel6 the funny thing is, even now I keep finding new parallels to support this when thinking back to our recent chats. For instance, Thorne's unstable side that we discussed the other day. We actually know that like Othello, he is capable of committing murder in a jealous rage (although Thorne tends to turn his _physical_ aggression towards the man, while punishing Macy with rejection rather than violence), and that he has an inner unreliable narrator (an internal Iago as it were, feeding into his doubts and insecurities). Anthony's exit storyline even has a "handkerchief" in the shape of a tape recorder (there's the ominous tape recorder once again!). Thorne accusing Macy of dating lots of guys is basically him saying to her, "get thee to a nunnery". And I just realized that Ophelia's madness is shown in the play through her *singing* , and that Macy's alcoholism coincides _exactly_ with her officially becoming a singer on the show (and she is shown singing drunk about being abandoned by a lover, which is also the topic of one of Ophelia's mad songs). With Desdemona also there is (quasi prophetic) singing as her destruction draws near, although she doesn't know it - a pattern repeated both before Macy's arrest and before both her deaths.
@@donkeygospel6 you are right! And Macy's role as the loyal daughter fits, too. Her starting her downward spiral because of Thorne, but not actually hitting rock bottom until she *also* feels that she has lost Sally, also fits with the Sally as Polonius narrative.
@@Esi528 Whatever you believe she was going thru as a baby unable to comprehend any of that parents not living together or Brooke wanting to be a family is not traumatic in my view. She was receiving love no matter who was under what roof at night, she was safe and well nourished. She wasn't being physically hurt or yelled at. Her father figure was somewhat around and that is somehow a thing that affects kids positively in the very first stages of life. Later it was found out that Eric was the father and somehow after all that Ridge managed to develop romantic feelings for Bridget later in life, no one even mentions how unsettling that is. If you want to talk about trauma there are a lot of babies that actually have lived thu things that really were traumatic so feeling sorry for Bridget at this point in her life seems over the top, especially since she was well taken care of and loved. If you want to make her traumatized by Brooke wanting to be with Ridge at this time when he was married to Taylor, then that seems just a matter of opinion and not a fact especially since their were things that she later experienced that were hurtful but didn't hold her back or destroy her life either in fact she is a very good doctor and living a good life with a good relationship with her mother and the rest of her family and not throwing herself a lifetime pity party. So all's well that ends well.
@@Esi528 I think that word better describes Thomas today, I don't see how it applies to Brooke tho. I guess you are referring to her relationships with the men she has been involved with if so does that same term refer to those men or are they excluded from that name calling? I'm not saying Brooke has been a goody 2 shoes but it seems no one ever gives credit to her cohorts for their more than willing participation.
@@pjmoneybags2780At times Bridget has had horrible relationships with Brooke. She slapped Brooke after finding out she knew Thomas was Ridge's and kept it from him when they married and then ran away from home. When Brooke was pregnant with her stepdaughter and sister. Whatever issue they had with Nick. I have no idea how Bridgette got pregnant by Jackie's husband. When Steffi was shot, Brooke didn't know she was even it town. This show never lets logic or common sense get in the way of its plots.
Yes this is the perfect setting for a family dinner right with candles and the rest... just left the lingerie and yet its still bridget she puts infront to justify this charade... i don't know if we should call it NAIVE or STUPID but i just don't understand Ridge's reactions to Brooke's tricks
The whole hiding in the bedroom while Macy is passed out drunk is so overly dramatic. Just come out and let Sally and Jack know that you brought Macy home for obvious reasons. A stranger hiding in a room with a girl who is passed out on the bed just looks straight up suspicious. There was no need for him to hide like that. I hope this doesn't turn into something bad because it surely looks bad when all he needed to do from the jump was come out and explain what he was doing there.
The lost tape story reminds me of "the lost letter story". Not very believable as Thorne could very well have worked out that the person who was in his office had stolen the tape. Belk, think of another storyline to convince your audience.
Carolines diary ...whats it doing there? Oh Taylor caroline was his first wifeee whos dying wish was that he marry brooke. And imagine brooke has his first baby ....or so we are made to believe. Either way ure not any of ridges firsts.
I really like Sally and Jack together ❤ Ridge is a jerk going to a dinner at Brookes without Taylor Taylor is gorgeous 😍 It's gross how Brooke uses her child to get to Ridge 😒
So Brookeho’s logic is that Bridgette must have her parents be together but Eric jr never deserved the same. I feel better knowing the child is actually not Ridges. Lmao
Ridge is giving Brooke the benfit of the doubt when he should not the woman is crazy and should never be trusted she is just too self obsessed Taylor is right about her she is nothing but trouble i guess Ridge should experiance for himself to believe
Nice touch adding Player's 'Baby Come Back' song as Brooke waits for Ridge. How extremely fitting.
Taylor finding the diary is like those stories where someone finds a book, starts reading it, and realizes they are reading about their own life.
"My main concern tonight is Bridget", says Brooke as her nose starts growing.
@@donkeygospel6 🤣😂🤣
@@donkeygospel6 😂😂😂 How do you always have the right quip?
😂😂😂
@@donkeygospel6 🤣
@@sharonstewart4882 I always ask myself the same question too😂😂😂
LOL Brooke put in a Player CD. Those who don't know, Player is the rock band that Ronn Moss (Ridge) was a member of.
Brooke puts in the CD and it is Player's biggest hit Baby Come Back.
I bet they laughed about that.
😂😂I LOVE that song! ❤️❤️
That’s what I said! 😂
@@tfgh521 Me too. I always thought that having been a real rock star gave Moss the playboy energy needed to play Ridge. He had women fighting over him in real life and had to play in front of large crowds of screaming women. Being Ridge was natural. Made him believable as a designer. New Euro Ridge is not believable as a designer.
@@blackblake3658 New Ridge is too sharp, too serious. Just like Daniel Craig as a Bond. Sean Connery is only one, just like Ronn Moss.
I also laughed out loud as soon as I heard it lmao
Karen is not a person that Brooke should listen to. She is not a good friend. She doesn’t have a problem destroying Macy and Thorne’s marriage and now she helping and encouraging Brooke to do the same thing to Taylor and Ridge. What a shame!
yes although i love joanna johnson this charecter is not good and not worthy of Joanna
Brooke schemed against a rape victim, her mother/siblings and broke up Eric & Steph's marriage.
Karen and Brooke were fast friends because they're two of a kind. Caroline's cancer meds fried her brain and that is why she thought Ridge should reunite with Brooke, the woman pregnant by his married father.
Lol, loved how the used Ronn Moss song with Player 😂
I love that KKL & Joanna Johnson are sharing the screen again. They called each other twins.
@@Esi528 that’s awesome!
Cool
They look alike so much
Ridge is really loving and understanding husband. He tries he's best here , considering the situation..
Does Brooke remember she has another child? When was the last time we saw little Eric??
We never see him but she does.. She's his mother
Brendan, ask the writers!
@@bonniek5331 THANK YOU FINALLY A SANE PERSON ...LOL
Drunk Macy is EXACTLY like an overtired four year old.
@@donkeygospel6 yes, that's right. Anthony comes on the show in the fall of 1993 and stays on the show a little less than two years. But in my opinion, Anthony doesn't go bad - he is bad from the start and there is a ton of foreshadowing to be found if you are watching for the second time and know how his story ends. Anthony's character arc has a very nice shape at the beginning and the end, but kind of goes into a holding pattern in the middle.
And Macy will be drunk when she meets Anthony because Sheila pours vodka in her orange juice.
@@donkeygospel6 yes. It takes a very long time before they are actually back together, which is why I always felt that their original story ended with their wedding in 1995. That was the payoff of *years* of complications and a natural end point for their story. Their storylines after that point didn't have the same clear sense of direction towards a goal.
@@donkeygospel6 Sheila did the same thing to Brooke this year on the current episodes. Switched the labels on the champagne bottles so Brooke thought she was drinking non-alcoholic booze. Shelia is horrible.
@@trinit2108 I think Anthony worked the best as a bad guy. The part in the middle where he doesn't do much of anything feels just like the writers are treading water with him. But the beginning and the end of his story fit very well together. I feel that him going psycho was always latent in his character, he always had that "look" in his eyes, it was the nice guy part that didn't quite fit.
...wait
Was that "Baby Come Back" playing in the background at the end?! 😂😂😂😂
The thing about home wrecker friendships is they eventually turn on each other. Case in point: Karen will betray Brooke and steal Connor Davis from her. 😂
@@donkeygospel6 my words exactly. I liked Karen best with Connor. Too bad they wasted JJ's talent
You could always watch without reading the comments Karen 🙄
Ok Karen
@@ministryofwrongthink9847 why am I a Karen? It’s a show. I love all of the actors playing these characters. We all have trouble with the writing. The women are always shamed for being whores, yet nothing about the men’s behavior. Maybe we should stop putting women down. Brooke & Taylor slept with practically all of the same men. Maybe we should just say that Ridge is a selfish man who really doesn’t deserve either of these beautiful women.
@@PeaceLoveHappiness7719 k Karen
Starting to really detest this Fakeroline. 🙄
@@Esi528 I couldn't agree more.
I've always thought that Macy becoming an alcoholic was a PERFECT fit for the character - it just somehow seemed _right_ - but it isn't until now that I've finally realized why.
It is because Macy's character type, or at least the character's "natural habitat", is the realm of the "Shakespearean tragic female" (I don't want to say "tragic heroine" because that implies a level of control over the plot that these women don't have).
First, of course, there was Juliet. The parallels between Romeo/Juliet and Thorne/Macy caught between their rivaling families are hard to miss (and even explicitly referred to on the actual show). However, another interesting point is that the downfall or Romeo and Juliet was a case of miscommunication turned fatal - lack of simple communication is also the root cause of many of Thorne and Macy's problems.
Then there was Desdemona. At first, this is not immediately obvious because it is less literal. But the dynamic between Thorne and Macy often takes on an Othello/Desdemona vibe, with Thorne being insecure of Macy's loyalties to the point where he sees betrayal even where it isn't there (whether romantic or professional), and punishes Macy unfairly for it. I don't think I would have spotted this at all if it hadn't been for the end of the Anthony Armando storyline, where Macy is cast as Desdemona in a much more apparent, non-metaphorical, way (and Thorne is "cleared" of his Othello characteristics by Anthony absorbing them instead).
And now finally there's Ophelia, the woman driven to insanity and self-destruction by her lover Hamlet's inexplicable rejection and mistreatment. Of course, while Ophelia literally drowns herself, Macy ends up drowning herself in alcohol. (Although there is an occasion years later when Macy actually does try to drown herself in the ocean as well, out of grief after losing both her father and the man she loves - incidentally the exact same reason that Ophelia goes mad and drowns.)
Throughout her character history, Macy alternates between these three "character models". She is not exactly like Juliet, Desdemona, or Ophelia, but contains elements from all three. Sometimes she is more one, sometimes more another. But she always works best as a character when she stays close to at least one of them. And they are all quite similar in that they are ultimately victims of love.
@@donkeygospel6 thank you... I think! 😂
@@donkeygospel6 the funny thing is, even now I keep finding new parallels to support this when thinking back to our recent chats.
For instance, Thorne's unstable side that we discussed the other day. We actually know that like Othello, he is capable of committing murder in a jealous rage (although Thorne tends to turn his _physical_ aggression towards the man, while punishing Macy with rejection rather than violence), and that he has an inner unreliable narrator (an internal Iago as it were, feeding into his doubts and insecurities).
Anthony's exit storyline even has a "handkerchief" in the shape of a tape recorder (there's the ominous tape recorder once again!).
Thorne accusing Macy of dating lots of guys is basically him saying to her, "get thee to a nunnery".
And I just realized that Ophelia's madness is shown in the play through her *singing* , and that Macy's alcoholism coincides _exactly_ with her officially becoming a singer on the show (and she is shown singing drunk about being abandoned by a lover, which is also the topic of one of Ophelia's mad songs).
With Desdemona also there is (quasi prophetic) singing as her destruction draws near, although she doesn't know it - a pattern repeated both before Macy's arrest and before both her deaths.
@@donkeygospel6 you are right! And Macy's role as the loyal daughter fits, too. Her starting her downward spiral because of Thorne, but not actually hitting rock bottom until she *also* feels that she has lost Sally, also fits with the Sally as Polonius narrative.
You guys are taking me back to my awkward days at high school 🤣
Wow Annie you are really making me miss my college English courses. ☺Love this!
Poor Bridget at this time of her life all shes interested in is being fed having an empty diaper and sleeping 🙄
Exactly what she should have been doing and she was fine doing just that.
Bridget is also fine today being a great doctor.
@@Esi528 Whatever you believe she was going thru as a baby unable to comprehend any of that parents not living together or Brooke wanting to be a family is not traumatic in my view. She was receiving love no matter who was under what roof at night, she was safe and well nourished. She wasn't being physically hurt or yelled at. Her father figure was somewhat around and that is somehow a thing that affects kids positively in the very first stages of life. Later it was found out that Eric was the father and somehow after all that Ridge managed to develop romantic feelings for Bridget later in life, no one even mentions how unsettling that is. If you want to talk about trauma there are a lot of babies that actually have lived thu things that really were traumatic so feeling sorry for Bridget at this point in her life seems over the top, especially since she was well taken care of and loved. If you want to make her traumatized by Brooke wanting to be with Ridge at this time when he was married to Taylor, then that seems just a matter of opinion and not a fact especially since their were things that she later experienced that were hurtful but didn't hold her back or destroy her life either in fact she is a very good doctor and living a good life with a good relationship with her mother and the rest of her family and not throwing herself a lifetime pity party. So all's well that ends well.
@@Esi528 I think that word better describes Thomas today, I don't see how it applies to Brooke tho. I guess you are referring to her relationships with the men she has been involved with if so does that same term refer to those men or are they excluded from that name calling? I'm not saying Brooke has been a goody 2 shoes but it seems no one ever gives credit to her cohorts for their more than willing participation.
@@pjmoneybags2780 No, Bridget developed romantic feelings toward Ridge -- she kissed him!
@@pjmoneybags2780At times Bridget has had horrible relationships with Brooke. She slapped Brooke after finding out she knew Thomas was Ridge's and kept it from him when they married and then ran away from home. When Brooke was pregnant with her stepdaughter and sister. Whatever issue they had with Nick. I have no idea how Bridgette got pregnant by Jackie's husband. When Steffi was shot, Brooke didn't know she was even it town.
This show never lets logic or common sense get in the way of its plots.
I would have done Ridge before he goes to the dinner 😅😂😂😂😂
Did Ridge want Taylor to find the diary? The sht was on the bookshelf with the pages marked.🤣😂
Of course not he just forgot to hide it, I hope she slaps it in his face when he gets home
Lol...wasn't Taylor aware of Caroline wishes...I can't remember
@@semoneg2826 Yes but she fell in love with him and of course he went chase her down
Yes this is the perfect setting for a family dinner right with candles and the rest... just left the lingerie and yet its still bridget she puts infront to justify this charade... i don't know if we should call it NAIVE or STUPID but i just don't understand Ridge's reactions to Brooke's tricks
He loves to play with Brooke and Taylor, he’s the child that who gets tired of one toy and goes to the other, over and over again
@@kchellkat1847 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@kchellkat1847 yup
The whole hiding in the bedroom while Macy is passed out drunk is so overly dramatic. Just come out and let Sally and Jack know that you brought Macy home for obvious reasons. A stranger hiding in a room with a girl who is passed out on the bed just looks straight up suspicious. There was no need for him to hide like that. I hope this doesn't turn into something bad because it surely looks bad when all he needed to do from the jump was come out and explain what he was doing there.
How convenient to put on baby come back by playa 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😉 nice move Brooke
The lost tape story reminds me of "the lost letter story".
Not very believable as Thorne could very well have worked out that the person who was in his office had stolen the tape.
Belk, think of another storyline to convince your audience.
Brooke and Karen are missing their cauldron 🧙♀️🧹
Really? music from Player? 🙂
Good thing we have smartphones and Bluetooth speakers now.😃
Thanks for the upload !!
0:03 thanks 🙏👍.
All blaming Brooke.. but sounds like Karen is the one pushing Brooke into Ridge and encouraging her , not Brooke being the bad influence
Brooke isn't a 3 years old. Karen is pushing but she has her own mind too
Why is he going to dinner with Brooke. He seem his daughter earlier that day. She will be sleeping in the evening.🙄
It was a wonderful touch that they played the song Baby Come Back add player and ridge was a member of the move back in the seventies
Welcome Ken LaRon (Keith) to the contract players
The first black male actor to be signed to a contract
Omg! That song playing at the end is performed by Ron Moss
Here comes TIPSY MACY
TRIPLE SHOTS 😉🤮🤮🤮😅
Sally little drunk too!
Taylor & Brooke deserve better! Beautiful ladies!
There are ladies, then gemmperrhs, then there's a ho.
True
Yes they are
Taylor is so pretty’s
19:55 Ridge realizes that Taylor has won the bet😂
Brooke dresses so frumpy!😂
How brooke can use little bridget to seduce Ridge. Since her birth, we haven't seen little Eric. It seems like she only has one daughter.
Bridget will have no idea what is going on or why. She could care less She is thinking a i hungry or wet
@@trinit2108 big mistake with the writers. Little Eric is not with his dad. What we should see is little Eric interrupting the dinner
@@trinit2108 I would have thought the crazy would have had a background check Stupid Forresters. Eric should have learned by now.
“I just think that’s not where he head is” says ridge after she constantly tried to guilt him into being with her and “their” baby
WOW THIS WILL BE WILD HOW WILL KEVEN GET OUT OF MACEYS ROOM MAYBE HE WILL CLIMB OUT THE WINDOW 😉👌
Why did Kevin take Macy home, not sly
Keith is his name. His brother Kevin comes on later
Brooke: I don’t want to come in too strong. 😂😂😂😂 that’s exactly what’s she’s doing and she knows it. I can’t tolerate her. SFTV
My daughter has a life sized poster of Ridge that she pieced together.
Ridge is a liar. He knows perfectly well that Brooke comes on to his every time she’s alone with him.
Carolines diary ...whats it doing there? Oh Taylor caroline was his first wifeee whos dying wish was that he marry brooke. And imagine brooke has his first baby ....or so we are made to believe. Either way ure not any of ridges firsts.
Fabulous 1993 episode!!
Two snakes plotting together
I really like Sally and Jack together ❤
Ridge is a jerk going to a dinner at Brookes without Taylor
Taylor is gorgeous 😍
It's gross how Brooke uses her child to get to Ridge 😒
Love Brooke's dress she changed into, the color perfect!
Brooke, KKL, one of the beautiful women in BB!
I live her natural CA girl look!
What is Brooke trying to prove by giving this "family" party?
Brooke looks the youngest from all of B&B girls here
It’s like Eric jr just vanished.
Love the end
Why Karen coaching Brooke, Thorne wants Macy
So Brookeho’s logic is that Bridgette must have her parents be together but Eric jr never deserved the same. I feel better knowing the child is actually not Ridges. Lmao
Jack has no chemistry with Sally or Stephanie and he isn’t even handsome. Why are they fighting for him? Write him off with his son.
Were Sally and Jack also at Bikini bar?
Ridge is giving Brooke the benfit of the doubt when he should not the woman is crazy and should never be trusted she is just too self obsessed Taylor is right about her she is nothing but trouble i guess Ridge should experiance for himself to believe
My favorite character was Caroline now my least favorite is Karen