@Jefro Manuel This video was showing arena's and you're talking about BGs. Question mark. Also, in this video you see him kill plenty of them. But go off.
correct me if I'm wrong, but to play on endless and get involved in competitive arena, I would need to buy the instant 70 and then probably farm arena 3-5 months for the arena pvp set? I'd love to play on the server but if that's the time frame, tbc classic should be out by then lol.
Friendly advice vs mage it's better to keep your sac until you see him casting sheep, then pop it at the end of his cast - if well timed he'll insta break the sheep for you.
My question exactly lol , I’ve seen a lot of builds around reckoning proc and seal twisting without even using crusader strike , is it worth giving up crusader strike and just seal twisting (while praying to the RNG gods) or use both?
@@biggiesmalls7939 well obviously he doesn't here and I want to see his opinion on the topic. You can't seal twist without attack swing timer animation.
Not to bash any people who love Ret and want to play that in TBC pvp (arena or bgs), play what is most fun for *you!* Me personally, if I would think of making Ret as main for pvp I'd rather wait for classic wotlk, but hey that's ME. I'm planning going SP myself and not the "you must play X race or delete game" so 😜 Thanks for the upload. Good content as always +1
how long does it take to level up on endless? also why would u level up in endless when you could lvl up in classic and later transfer character to TBC server?
Just go and watch the TBC GOD SPEANK !Ret / Rshaman is considered of tbc pro players the 0 tier or god comp at the moment as it has 0 counters in the game . The main reason is as that comp outburts and can outlast more comps due to mana management. On top of that Rshaman uses mostly rank 1 spells that cost 70 mana and the ret pala will go with rank 1 seals ,+ a ret pala will use the stop attack ,cast seal attack macro to sealtwist as blizzard updated it to be just like endless tbc server ( by that you prevent human error of incorrectly twisting as you can mistake weapon range or the 0.5). I would recommend you to follow Speank as he is the tbc god at the moment and the creator of the Cactus Retri. It is not a popular comp as it is extremely hard for a retri player to do the twisting on a movement target , especially when you have to hoj , heal sometimes and do other stuff. You can also check the " speank retri school video or the speank rank 1 retri video session where he explains how to play Retri vs every comp in the game as retri /rshaman is probably the strongest tag team at the moment that compliments each others weakness to the fullest.
@@Leadstar1212 This is all true but also Reckoning is not scripted correctly on Endless so major part of the burst is still not gonna be the same on Classic TBC
@@ExecutusGaming hey man, awesome videos dude, absolutely love your stuff and have been watching it for 2 years now. Great player, great commentary. I have a question - I am so annoyed by the realities of ret in TBC Classic arena. I know I’m all pumped up for ret, my absolute favorite class ever, don’t want to play anything else, but as it happened before in original TBC and Classic, you get to max level and you just see that even though it’s fun, you are screwed compared to other classes. You can do ok, but to do well, you gotta be as good as you are, which is rare. Honest question - how far in rating do you think you could go on ret/+x 2s if you did your best vs an average player? If I wanna go gladiator, does it even make sense to roll ret, cause I was pumped and disappointed before, and I’ d say I am a solid player since I did not play that much, but would plan to put in the time this time around... thanks dude, congrats on such great content.
@@andunar Thanks! It really depends, if you have a really good shaman and you become very good on ret, you can push high rating. I'm not sure how good the comp is in Season 1, but it ret is def viable in pve. It's a hard call, but I think, with any class in TBC, if played with perfection you can push high rating!
I was about to ask which pc u got and monitor. I also like the sound of the kbd. Then I saw that you listed your spec and I must say that I can't afford that lol. the game looks like it runs so smooth.
How viable are ret actually for arena in tbc ? I mean if you just want high enough rating to buy gear/weapons. Can an average player do that or no you need to be like super skilled / lucky ? Same goes for solo world pvp, how are they doing there on tbc ? And how hard / easy is it to find heroic groups as ret in general ?
i think in classic tbc , you will have to be skilled no matter what class you play ( not insane , but still some good skill) because so many players are gonna come to arena from pservers, classic, shadowlands....
@@craserx6267 so you're saying me as a noob on wow, I can pretty much kill everyone since they're to busy doing pve stuff and forget how to practise arenas
Everyone and their mom telling me that Ret Pala sucks in Arena and that I should just go Prot and PvE. Here to motivate myself to keep leveling and not re-roll haha
I’ve been leveling my ret paladin, this comp looks so fun. Especially seeing you beat rogue mage .. can never beat that comp as my warrior rDruid comp if they’re good. Only worried i won’t find a good shaman without a team
Always love uploads from you man. Where can I find that song you play in the background. Such a chill pvp playing tune. Also wanna see you make an ele shaman sing for the pvp
@@jimmyhopkins4095 well you can while you have CCed the class that can dispel you and always have a cancelaura macro for wings against mages but yes is a pain in the ass
A small advice from a fellow ret : don't overestimate the power of judgment. When you burst a target in a hoj first use CS + let the auto hit accure to proc the SoC, then, when ur auto is recharging - judge. You lose lots of procs in your vid buddy ). Also judgment of crusader is not worth wasting time most of the games. When you offheal equip healing mace + shield and, if you have time, try buffing blessing of light - it boosts your healing by decent amount. The judgment mana return talent isn't worth speccing into - go for eye for an eye instead + 1 extra point to melee crit reduction. Otherwise - smart build btw (cool thing about abusing stoicism + 66% seal dispel protection to make it total 96% instead of 100 so it can be targeted by dispells/purges and annoy these classes 8) )
Bro THIS is what I’ve been looking for. I can’t find any tbc pvp videos that aren’t just fucking MLG montages with death metal blasting in my ears. Need more. Also, what’s the strongest class in tbc in your opinion?
Executus do you ever heal? Ever thought about going Holy and letting your mate go Enhance? It seems like your Shaman friend is unsure of himself and just following your orders.
@@Dan-Martin Hes resto in at least the hunter / rogue clip at the end, not sure if any of the others, but agreed hpal enhance sham is not going to find much success.
This is what I remember arena being like. Thought out, tactical and a good ebb and flow. Not this insta burst non-sense we have in retail. Never quit an expac so fast. Takes zero thought, mash 1 shot macro and pray.
Ah yeah the typical 1400 players with probably 100 games played complaining about getting 1 shotted because they cant keep up with the pace of retail arena and press a defensive.
Pretty simple: when executus uploads you like and comment and THEN watch and enjoy.
oh my bad i did it the other way around
Do u have a video with builds and guide for pvp ret pala in tbc ?
would you do GMA with Kargoz in the future, talk about warrior tbc and stuff?
Ofc!
@@ExecutusGaming that's a collab i really want to see! Can't wait for more incoming videos for tbc/classic :D
Windfury totem.. and no seal twists? So many white hits without a seal up.
Thought the same.. How to play with out swing timer...
any chance at a guide for the class? would love to learn more about this class in other comps if possible
Pally looks very fun, might have to give this a shot.
You should check it out! Get yourself a shaman and an on-use trinket, you'll be set!
@Jefro Manuel This video was showing arena's and you're talking about BGs. Question mark. Also, in this video you see him kill plenty of them. But go off.
Definitely against a mage that understands the game it is not fun, they will steal all your buffs and against shammies they purge everything you have.
@@findorbed if u know ur class they wont.
Its such a weak class compared to so many classes in tbc. This gameplay is countered by any good strong classes in the game
so you mostly use blessing of might on you, when kings?
are you going to try out the Shockadin aswell ?
awsome video btw !
No ear wrecking music,no shouting, soothing voice, 💯 % big damage
I like that you're actually positive with each other over the coms. Feels fun. Gga
-"full hoj full hoj!!1!!"
-"he trinketed it ("
Enough said
Can you post a video about the spec? It would really be helpful to get a breakdown of what talents you use and maybe potential macros. Thanks!
correct me if I'm wrong, but to play on endless and get involved in competitive arena, I would need to buy the instant 70 and then probably farm arena 3-5 months for the arena pvp set? I'd love to play on the server but if that's the time frame, tbc classic should be out by then lol.
How are you playing without a swing timer?
did you play a reckoning build in this video?
imagine if he had wf up only 10% of the time lol
Friendly advice vs mage it's better to keep your sac until you see him casting sheep, then pop it at the end of his cast - if well timed he'll insta break the sheep for you.
did you sealtwist here or ? was this dmg without twisting ?
What's the addon for enemy nameplates and buffs?
Nice video! What addons are you using next to gladdius to show offensive cooldowns?
Been watching you forever. So glad you’re doing tbc now cause it’s been a minute since I watched
Is crusader strike fine to cast whenever? I haven't tested if it reset auto-attack timer or not.
Yes always use on CD
love the old graphics mannnn. didnt freedom break stuns at one point? loved this patch.
So, no twisting of SoC and SoB in arena?
My question exactly lol , I’ve seen a lot of builds around reckoning proc and seal twisting without even using crusader strike , is it worth giving up crusader strike and just seal twisting (while praying to the RNG gods) or use both?
Will be playable with a discipline priest instead of shaman?
nope
Dude I honestly was just looking for a decent tbc pally pvp spec and your video popped out of nowhere! Thanks a bunch, really appreciate the gameplay.
you should subscribe, dude does the best pvp commentary
yo i feel like sac can get you out of a lot of cc. you sac healer and dmg you take breaks blind poly ext?
Do you use Seal Twisting at all? Maybe when wings are up and you try to push for a kill?
If a ret isn't seal twisting , he's a garbage ret
@@biggiesmalls7939 well obviously he doesn't here and I want to see his opinion on the topic. You can't seal twist without attack swing timer animation.
Not to bash any people who love Ret and want to play that in TBC pvp (arena or bgs), play what is most fun for *you!*
Me personally, if I would think of making Ret as main for pvp I'd rather wait for classic wotlk, but hey that's ME.
I'm planning going SP myself and not the "you must play X race or delete game" so 😜
Thanks for the upload. Good content as always +1
agree with this. ret was under performing in tbc outside of top tier raid gear and even then you'd be better off getting a dps class and main holy
Why only 2/3 into the talent that gives you 1% crit per point? Isnt 1% crit worth 1 more point?
It`s strange that despite you guys relay on burst shaman didn`t put windfury totem.
Bro, can you tell me where can Ifind your talent build, macros and skill rotation ? PRETTY PLEASE !
I just made a guide, check it out! ua-cam.com/video/lXchAT0zfvA/v-deo.html
Is ret pala only with shaman good ?
hello guys its possible link your maccros ret arena plz for me ?
Great video! What do you think about enhancement shaman arena performance and combos?
www.twitch.tv/videos/916645018 good with a druid
how long does it take to level up on endless? also why would u level up in endless when you could lvl up in classic and later transfer character to TBC server?
Its instant 70 and all free gear..
@@Mixwell1983 how. i made a priest and he was lvl 1
@@GamingDualities you were on the wrong realm , change region to the arena realm
@@Leadstar1212 will try thx for the info
@@GamingDualities np dude
interesting choice since i want to try main ret for tbc! have you tried alliance ret paladin since it got a different seal and compared them?
for pvp its seal of command for both factions
Not having the belf silence will probably hurt in pvp though. Its such a strong addition to a pallys tool kit.
they are giving both factions the same seals. horde still better but you can still do well on alliance ret
Can't wait for tbc.
Thanks for the video, great as always 👍 cheers
Is ret really viable in tbc pvp?
Just go and watch the TBC GOD SPEANK !Ret / Rshaman is considered of tbc pro players the 0 tier or god comp at the moment as it has 0 counters in the game . The main reason is as that comp outburts and can outlast more comps due to mana management. On top of that Rshaman uses mostly rank 1 spells that cost 70 mana and the ret pala will go with rank 1 seals ,+ a ret pala will use the stop attack ,cast seal attack macro to sealtwist as blizzard updated it to be just like endless tbc server ( by that you prevent human error of incorrectly twisting as you can mistake weapon range or the 0.5). I would recommend you to follow Speank as he is the tbc god at the moment and the creator of the Cactus Retri. It is not a popular comp as it is extremely hard for a retri player to do the twisting on a movement target , especially when you have to hoj , heal sometimes and do other stuff. You can also check the " speank retri school video or the speank rank 1 retri video session where he explains how to play Retri vs every comp in the game as retri /rshaman is probably the strongest tag team at the moment that compliments each others weakness to the fullest.
@@Leadstar1212 This is all true but also Reckoning is not scripted correctly on Endless so major part of the burst is still not gonna be the same on Classic TBC
Is this the tournament sever? Cant seem to make a char
it is but you must change region when you log in
Why put 3 points in Precision? PvP needs hit rating?
lets goooo
Are you gonna do any ele sham play?
Hello Executus! As someone who have played tbc alot, would you suggest rogue or hunter for pvp this coming tbc? :)
Depends on what you want to play, a ranged or melee class? Stealth CC class or ranged kite outplay class
@@ExecutusGaming hey man, awesome videos dude, absolutely love your stuff and have been watching it for 2 years now. Great player, great commentary. I have a question - I am so annoyed by the realities of ret in TBC Classic arena. I know I’m all pumped up for ret, my absolute favorite class ever, don’t want to play anything else, but as it happened before in original TBC and Classic, you get to max level and you just see that even though it’s fun, you are screwed compared to other classes. You can do ok, but to do well, you gotta be as good as you are, which is rare. Honest question - how far in rating do you think you could go on ret/+x 2s if you did your best vs an average player? If I wanna go gladiator, does it even make sense to roll ret, cause I was pumped and disappointed before, and I’ d say I am a solid player since I did not play that much, but would plan to put in the time this time around... thanks dude, congrats on such great content.
@@andunar Thanks! It really depends, if you have a really good shaman and you become very good on ret, you can push high rating. I'm not sure how good the comp is in Season 1, but it ret is def viable in pve. It's a hard call, but I think, with any class in TBC, if played with perfection you can push high rating!
No windfury?
What spec is the shaman?
Hey man, is enh/ret any good in 2s?
yes!!
Coool Video,
is seal of blood not better overall ?
It is, I just didn't use it very often. Still getting used to it, as it's better for judgement damage but not as a seal to use during auto attacks.
Unfortunately this is not what can be expected cause Endless is scripted wrong.. Is your shaman mate Ele btw?
He has earthshield
@@Trebor595 woops didn't pay enough attention
I was about to ask which pc u got and monitor. I also like the sound of the kbd. Then I saw that you listed your spec and I must say that I can't afford that lol. the game looks like it runs so smooth.
Is ret/rogue any good? My partner is 100% going rogue and I really want to try ret pally but not sure if we are gonna get destroyed every arena
It's super strong!
So sick! Do you think it’s a waste of time to play ally Ret bc or seal of blood?
ally is getting Seal of the Martyr its confirmed
what server is dat
How viable are ret actually for arena in tbc ? I mean if you just want high enough rating to buy gear/weapons. Can an average player do that or no you need to be like super skilled / lucky ? Same goes for solo world pvp, how are they doing there on tbc ? And how hard / easy is it to find heroic groups as ret in general ?
i think in classic tbc , you will have to be skilled no matter what class you play ( not insane , but still some good skill) because so many players are gonna come to arena from pservers, classic, shadowlands....
@@craserx6267 so you're saying me as a noob on wow, I can pretty much kill everyone since they're to busy doing pve stuff and forget how to practise arenas
@@makemwet2488 what? no, im saying that classic tbc arena might be the hardest arena ever in wow
@@craserx6267 So what you're saying is any newbie in the game can go to arena in classic and reach top 10 easily? Nice man!
:)
How’s ret in 1v1 in BC?
Is seal of command better than seal of blood in pvp?
Judgement of Command does more damage on stunned targets, best to sealtwist
Just search speank retri pala on youtube you get all information you need about retri pala. To answer your question you seal twist them
This brings back so many memories.
legend.
how about some tbc warrior action?
oh you already did...
what is the song this track is hella relaxing
wonder what the win ratio was
That voice, that gameplay, oh boy! hah Thanks man
Ya, made me come out the closet
Will shockadin be viable?
Nice vid man, is ret a solid choice in tbc for pvp?
Only with good gear and skill. Holy pally is what most pally high rankers play.
Always stoked on your new videos, bud.
Everyone and their mom telling me that Ret Pala sucks in Arena and that I should just go Prot and PvE. Here to motivate myself to keep leveling and not re-roll haha
Ya man do what's fun. I main ret and also with practice, gear and finding a decent partner we all can get geared eventually :).
Это оффа что ли? или....? чет не понял,как они на бк играют?
Been waitin for some tbc stuff. Cheers!
Wait is this private server ? I am confused when was TBC released???
it's a private serv.
Why hardly any WINDFURY and you don't even seal twist?....Can I ask why? I'm actually curious
hes just bad lol
wasnt bloodlust banned in arena back then?! :D
no
Man i miss cbt classic. This was the time i had most fun ever in wow. 😢
I’ve been leveling my ret paladin, this comp looks so fun. Especially seeing you beat rogue mage .. can never beat that comp as my warrior rDruid comp if they’re good.
Only worried i won’t find a good shaman without a team
why'd he never put down wf totem
Come on man, you have everything in the description but the song in the background. Please insert it there.
Direct - Lark [Monstercat Release]
@@khalidald5704 Thaks a lot
Which private server is this?
Endless
Dude you're killin it. Hey is ret raid viable too?
Yep! Should probably see 1 per raid
Always love uploads from you man.
Where can I find that song you play in the background. Such a chill pvp playing tune.
Also wanna see you make an ele shaman sing for the pvp
Thanks! Song: Direct - Lark
Thanks for the quality uploades
Nice games ! Would have love to see some disci/mage or rogue/SP tho.
damn i miss having all them auras
can you give a talent setup please !
Is this a private server?
ye
Coming at you with a live.. awesome video!
So wait, rog/mage open your sham and he's not dead in one global?? I like that
In tbc s3 not rly
post gear and spec
what talents
good video but you play against people that never purge/spellsteal your wings...
If you play against these classes that can do that you dont use wings, case closed
@@jimmyhopkins4095 well you can while you have CCed the class that can dispel you and always have a cancelaura macro for wings against mages but yes is a pain in the ass
@@Midgardwow againt this classes its better to just use buble imo
A ret guide for tbc would be awesome 🙂
ua-cam.com/video/lXchAT0zfvA/v-deo.html
@@ExecutusGaming thanks!
Would love to see some Ele shaman
Man i miss the bubbles around Paladins hands
talents ?
shown in the first 30 seconds of the video lol
@@ExecutusGaming XD
Awesome gameplay and tactics. That BELF racial is so good.
A small advice from a fellow ret : don't overestimate the power of judgment. When you burst a target in a hoj first use CS + let the auto hit accure to proc the SoC, then, when ur auto is recharging - judge. You lose lots of procs in your vid buddy ). Also judgment of crusader is not worth wasting time most of the games. When you offheal equip healing mace + shield and, if you have time, try buffing blessing of light - it boosts your healing by decent amount. The judgment mana return talent isn't worth speccing into - go for eye for an eye instead + 1 extra point to melee crit reduction.
Otherwise - smart build btw (cool thing about abusing stoicism + 66% seal dispel protection to make it total 96% instead of 100 so it can be targeted by dispells/purges and annoy these classes 8) )
Dude you look like you having so much fun. I am kinda tempted to play😄😄😄😅😅
The dream still alive
I think you could not improve the ability of damage output by tapping the keyboard faster. especially without any Seal :)
Bro THIS is what I’ve been looking for. I can’t find any tbc pvp videos that aren’t just fucking MLG montages with death metal blasting in my ears. Need more. Also, what’s the strongest class in tbc in your opinion?
Pls link me to any wow videos with death metal soundtracks because I’m so sick of hearing EDM
Executus do you ever heal? Ever thought about going Holy and letting your mate go Enhance? It seems like your Shaman friend is unsure of himself and just following your orders.
Awful comp
The shaman is Ele in this vid
@@Dan-Martin Hes resto in at least the hunter / rogue clip at the end, not sure if any of the others, but agreed hpal enhance sham is not going to find much success.
@@dg5059 yes you are right at the end he’s resto. The rest of the vid he’s ele, you can tell by the weapon enchant and no earthshield.
@@CheyTacHD An awful comp playing at a high level is more interesting than your cookie cutter bullshit.
This is what I remember arena being like. Thought out, tactical and a good ebb and flow. Not this insta burst non-sense we have in retail. Never quit an expac so fast. Takes zero thought, mash 1 shot macro and pray.
1:08 Does exactly that, mash burst in stun xD I don't see the difference :D
sure one shot macros works in retail till you hit 1800.... but to reach gladiator you need skill.
Ah yeah the typical 1400 players with probably 100 games played complaining about getting 1 shotted because they cant keep up with the pace of retail arena and press a defensive.
I liked your last ret video more.
can you please do a holy paladin game play?