According to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (every volume) Nova was never made an official member of the team. She was Johnny Storm’s friend / romantic interest and an ally of the team briefly, but she never joined.
WE NEED A "MR. FIX-IT" MOVIE! The Gray Hulk, at night, in a suit! It fits perfectly into the blip years. When attempting to fix his arm, Banner unknowingly creates the Gray Hulk, "Joe FIX-IT." He thinks he heals and cures himself. Except, at night, he turns into Mr. FIX-IT. Have Banner fight The Leader, (to close the loop) while having to deal with Joe. Who leaves Banner cryptic messages on the mirror. To win, he must meld Banner, Green Hulk and Gray Hulk into the Hulk he is now. It writes itself! GIVE US "MR. FIX-IT!" It can lead to another side movie, "The New Fantastic Four." The original FF are believed dead. So, Mr. FIX-IT, Wolverine, Ghost Rider and Spider-Man are called to fill in. It's a great story and it involves the skrulls. It can even show how She-Hulk joins the FF and have Deadpool for the wildcard. Pass it on, please and thank you!
There was an issue recently where Reed summoned all previous ff members, they were in that group. At least hulk certainly was as he was focused on in the story as not wanting to be seen by the others. Just double checked, it was issue 2&3 of the current Dan slott run. They're all there. Along with herbie lol.
@@andrewbeecroft6509 It was stated in that story that it was the extended family. HERBIE was there, too, and he was never a member. Feel free to argue, but it’s not me making that call - it’s Marvel. The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe has ruled they were not official members. My phrasing was taken directly from the Fantastic Four profiles.
@@andrewbeecroft6509 They are family, yes… but not immediate family. The four characters duped into serving on the faux F4 are “cousins” to the team, yes, but they were not ever given official membership of the Fantastic Four (the “immediate family.”)
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
Well in the marvel adventures comics witch are different universe than earth 616 blackbolt and medusa are crystal parents their for maximus is her uncle
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
Spider-Man was never a member of the Fantastic Four, which was disbanded following Johnny Storm’s death. He joined the Future Foundation. He left before the Fantastic Four was reinstated. He was a member of the unofficial replacement Fantastic Four with Wolverine, Hulk, and Ghost Rider, but those four were not given official F4 membership since their team was brought together by a Skrull. Either way, he was never a member of the Fantastic Four.
Copy and paste. Thumbs up for addressing (replying) to those individuals who cited this instance. I made sure to look through the comments in the event someone already said what I had planned to say.
@@TornaitSuperBird Are you referring to when Spider-Man had to use an F4 uniform and paper bag to get home after separating from the symbiote? If so, he was not granted membership because he had to borrow clothes…
Nice! Fantastic Four #63 was one of my first FF comics. Reading F. F. again due to The Bride of Doom arc (Johnny Storm more than Deserves his fate, given his actions). Better the Frankie Ray Nova than Rich Rider for me.
Doom never joined the Fantastic Four, he joined the Future Foundation. Hulk, Ghost Rider, Wolverine, and Spider-Man were tricked into joining a faux Fantastic Four and never served on the official team. Spider-Man was on the Future Foundation roster and shouldn’t be in this video.
Because Spider-Man wasn't a member of the Fantastic Four at that time. He just borrowed one of their costumes so he didn't have to swing home naked. This video only covers the time period where he was an actual member
Nothing about Fantasty Four #348 and 349; which brought together Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk, and Ghost Rider to replace the team for 2 episode; as a Skrull villainess, De'lila pretending to be Sue claimed her family was dead, and asked the New Four to find and Avenger her family. All the while; holding the team hostage, and forcing Reed to work for her. But Richard's was a few steps ahead, and was working on his own plans to free the team. For a brief moment in team; we all got a brand new Fantasty Four; made up of the most unlikely of characters.
Because they were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull, they were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
Nova was never a member - she never accepted. Spider-Man was a member of the Future Foundation, not the Fantastic Four. Those two need to be removed from the list and Iceman added.
WE NEED A "MR. FIX-IT" MOVIE! The Gray Hulk, at night, in a suit! It fits perfectly into the blip years. When attempting to fix his arm, Banner unknowingly creates the Gray Hulk, "Joe FIX-IT." He thinks he heals and cures himself. Except, at night, he turns into Mr. FIX-IT. Have Banner fight The Leader, (to close the loop) while having to deal with Joe. Who leaves Banner cryptic messages on the mirror. To win, he must meld Banner, Green Hulk and Gray Hulk into the Hulk he is now. It writes itself! GIVE US "MR. FIX-IT!" It can lead to another side movie, "The New Fantastic Four." The original FF are believed dead. So, Mr. FIX-IT, Wolverine, Ghost Rider and Spider-Man are called to fill in. It's a great story and it involves the skrulls. It can even show how She-Hulk joins the FF and have Deadpool for the wildcard. Pass it on, please and thank you!
He forget the older Version of Franklin Richards woh joined the Team and also Lyja the Skrull was also a part of the Team. And I also Think Namor was also as the Rooster for a small period of time.And I also not sure, but was Reed Richards Father from the Future also a member of the Team?
Haven't started the video yet. They seriosly forgot Lyja? She was a member for like almost a decade! NAthenial Richards was never a member but he was a big supporting character in the 90s.
None of the characters you mention were ever official members of the team. They were longtime allies, but never official roster position holders. That’s straight from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.
Scott Lang was nowhere near the goob he's portrayed as in the movies and erego more modern comics. He's a brilliant Scientist ckind of filled that role fror the team during Reed's "death"
@@kevinlam9437 Apparently, Marvel disagrees. Their opinion is the only one that matters, unfortunately. P. S. - Uh oh. Squirrel Girl beat Doom, too. :)
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
@@andrewbeecroft6509 Extended family includes cousins, aunts, uncles, etc… they are family, but not the immediate family. Those four are linked to them, but they never served on official rosters. This was confirmed in the Empyre Handbook Fantastic Four entry last year.
Old School Dune music !!!!!and you left out Wolverine Hulk and ghost rider you can’t be trusted as an accurate Marvel info source!!! But you still did a good video and we appreciate your efforts.make mine Marvel true believers!!!!
@@mikeosullivan101 Mailman was just his cover. He had an extraordinary ability to wiggle his ears. Now let's be honest: how often haven't we all found ourselves in a position where a strong ear wiggle would totes save the day/world/universe/multiverse? Personally never, but your mileage may vary.
Wolverine/Ghost Rider/Hulk were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times). Powerhouse & Brainstorm are their children and net on the official roster. They were members of the Future Foundation, though. Sleepwalker has never joined the team. Ally, yes. Member, no.
Never knew Nova was actually the daughter of the android version of the human torch/ Vision . For some reason I feel the High Evolutionary belongs in this story.
Spider-Man's Future Foundation outfit was one of the best he has ever had.
Wolverine, Ghost Rider and Hulk were on a FF team with Spidey, how do you forget something like that?
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team.
Yeah... How could he forget Wolvie and Ghosty?
@@caliken10 He didn’t. They were never official members of the Fantastic Four.
@@mikeosullivan101 ahhh guess I should have read that story
Issues 347-349. I agree, he missed them!
According to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (every volume) Nova was never made an official member of the team. She was Johnny Storm’s friend / romantic interest and an ally of the team briefly, but she never joined.
RR is the kind of OP that's usually reserved for anime self-inserts.
The guy can just build a new Thing!
Love the John Byrne covers and artwork.
GOAT
storm and t’challa joining the f4 was good
Yeah yeah interracial equality 🥱
@@whitefangs5539 the hell's that supposed to mean
@@apollomcdonald I have no idea
How do you not mention when Ghost Rider, the Hulk, Wolverine and Spiderman were the Fantasic Four?
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team.
That was the most powerful line up of the fantastic four spider sense, healing factor, gamma power house, hell fire powers pretty self explanatory.
WE NEED A "MR. FIX-IT" MOVIE! The Gray Hulk, at night, in a suit! It fits perfectly into the blip years. When attempting to fix his arm, Banner unknowingly creates the Gray Hulk, "Joe FIX-IT." He thinks he heals and cures himself. Except, at night, he turns into Mr. FIX-IT. Have Banner fight The Leader, (to close the loop) while having to deal with Joe. Who leaves Banner cryptic messages on the mirror. To win, he must meld Banner, Green Hulk and Gray Hulk into the Hulk he is now. It writes itself! GIVE US "MR. FIX-IT!"
It can lead to another side movie, "The New Fantastic Four." The original FF are believed dead. So, Mr. FIX-IT, Wolverine, Ghost Rider and Spider-Man are called to fill in. It's a great story and it involves the skrulls. It can even show how She-Hulk joins the FF and have Deadpool for the wildcard. Pass it on, please and thank you!
Did you miss that killer arc with Mr Fixit, Ghost Rider, Wolverine and Spidey drawn by Art Adam's???
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team.
There was an issue recently where Reed summoned all previous ff members, they were in that group. At least hulk certainly was as he was focused on in the story as not wanting to be seen by the others.
Just double checked, it was issue 2&3 of the current Dan slott run. They're all there. Along with herbie lol.
@@andrewbeecroft6509 It was stated in that story that it was the extended family. HERBIE was there, too, and he was never a member.
Feel free to argue, but it’s not me making that call - it’s Marvel. The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe has ruled they were not official members. My phrasing was taken directly from the Fantastic Four profiles.
The extended family is comprised of all fantastic four members. It's how Reed tricked griever into letting him summon them all.
@@andrewbeecroft6509 They are family, yes… but not immediate family.
The four characters duped into serving on the faux F4 are “cousins” to the team, yes, but they were not ever given official membership of the Fantastic Four (the “immediate family.”)
I remember seeing She Hulk in the Fantastic Four World's Greatest Heroes cartoon. She looks good in the Fantastic Four costume.
When does she not?
Yall forgot about the "New Fantastic Four" that included Ghost Rider, Hulk, Wolverine and Spider-Man. Short lived, but awesome roster.
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
Bro really deported Black Panther back to Wakanda 💀
What happened to The Fantastic Four? "ON AN OUTERSPACE ADVENTURE! THEY GOT HIT BY COSMIC RAYS!"
Crystal rejoined the FF for a short period in the mid 1980s.
I loved this video! Can you guys do an X-Men one next?
That video would go for hours
Maximus is Crystal’s second cousin, not her uncle.
Damn, talk about family feuds
Well in the marvel adventures comics witch are different universe than earth 616 blackbolt and medusa are crystal parents their for maximus is her uncle
You forgot Ghost Rider, Wolverine, and Hulk!
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
Spider-Man was never a member of the Fantastic Four, which was disbanded following Johnny Storm’s death. He joined the Future Foundation. He left before the Fantastic Four was reinstated.
He was a member of the unofficial replacement Fantastic Four with Wolverine, Hulk, and Ghost Rider, but those four were not given official F4 membership since their team was brought together by a Skrull.
Either way, he was never a member of the Fantastic Four.
Copy and paste. Thumbs up for addressing (replying) to those individuals who cited this instance. I made sure to look through the comments in the event someone already said what I had planned to say.
What about Baxter Baghead, though?
@@TornaitSuperBird Are you referring to when Spider-Man had to use an F4 uniform and paper bag to get home after separating from the symbiote? If so, he was not granted membership because he had to borrow clothes…
Flux was one of the best things to ever happened in fantastic four just wow
Probably should change the title of this one, you missed a lot of team members, most notably Captain America (when he was just The Captain).
EXCUSE ME?
Steve Rogers never joined the Fantastic Four. When he was the Captain, Reed & Susan joined the Avengers, not the other way around.
@@mikeosullivan101 You are correct, I just remembered Reed and Steve butting heads a lot and for some reason took it to mean he joined the FF.
The Thing just loves to fight.
Nice! Fantastic Four #63 was one of my first FF comics.
Reading F. F. again due to The Bride of Doom arc (Johnny Storm more than Deserves his fate, given his actions).
Better the Frankie Ray Nova than Rich Rider for me.
But Maximus is her cousin and not Uncle though. Crystal, and Medusa are sisters while Black Bolt and Maximus are brothers.
Spider-Man fantastic four custom looks awesome 😎
How can you forget Dr. Doom, Hulk, Ghost Rider, and Wolverine???? SMH
Doom never joined the Fantastic Four, he joined the Future Foundation.
Hulk, Ghost Rider, Wolverine, and Spider-Man were tricked into joining a faux Fantastic Four and never served on the official team. Spider-Man was on the Future Foundation roster and shouldn’t be in this video.
You Forgot Doctor Doom In Issue #116 Where He Fought With The Team Against The Over Mind!!!!!!
That was an ally situation, not an official joining of the team.
Thanks for the video.
x update: the more he uses his powers, the more powerful he gets, and the only whay he can be defeated is if he uses his powers to much.
Namora/ita was just basically someone thought Namora his cousin was "too old" so they creepily made her give birth too herself so she could be younger
Oh sure, no love for the amazing bag-man here. One of marvels most unsung heroes.
Because Spider-Man wasn't a member of the Fantastic Four at that time. He just borrowed one of their costumes so he didn't have to swing home naked. This video only covers the time period where he was an actual member
Nothing about Fantasty Four #348 and 349; which brought together Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk, and Ghost Rider to replace the team for 2 episode; as a Skrull villainess, De'lila pretending to be Sue claimed her family was dead, and asked the New Four to find and Avenger her family. All the while; holding the team hostage, and forcing Reed to work for her. But Richard's was a few steps ahead, and was working on his own plans to free the team. For a brief moment in team; we all got a brand new Fantasty Four; made up of the most unlikely of characters.
Because they were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull, they were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
So Johnny's Skrull wife Lyja didn't count as "joining" for this video?
😡 MS.THING!!! Ice at Least heard of she thing BUT WHO’S MS. THING
There are other members! Part 2?
:D
So... Black people just didn't get to stay on the team for nearly as long...
I wonder if Namorita was considered a mutant like Namor.
Awesome vid mate'eh 😅✌️🤍
I did not know some of these. Neat.
Namorita is alive again. Pulled out of time before her death and back on Earth.
You forgot Wolverine,Hulk, and Ghost Rider
Wow you forgot the new Fantastic Four that was Spiderman, Ghost Rider, Wolverine and the Hulk
Crystal, Medusa, Luke Cage, Nova, She-Hulk, Ant-Man, Ms. Thing, Sharon Ventura, Namorita, Black Panther, Storm, Flux & Spider-Man
Nova was never a member - she never accepted. Spider-Man was a member of the Future Foundation, not the Fantastic Four. Those two need to be removed from the list and Iceman added.
@@mikeosullivan101 Iceman wasn’t in the video. Nova & Spiderman were.
WE NEED A "MR. FIX-IT" MOVIE! The Gray Hulk, at night, in a suit! It fits perfectly into the blip years. When attempting to fix his arm, Banner unknowingly creates the Gray Hulk, "Joe FIX-IT." He thinks he heals and cures himself. Except, at night, he turns into Mr. FIX-IT. Have Banner fight The Leader, (to close the loop) while having to deal with Joe. Who leaves Banner cryptic messages on the mirror. To win, he must meld Banner, Green Hulk and Gray Hulk into the Hulk he is now. It writes itself! GIVE US "MR. FIX-IT!"
It can lead to another side movie, "The New Fantastic Four." The original FF are believed dead. So, Mr. FIX-IT, Wolverine, Ghost Rider and Spider-Man are called to fill in. It's a great story and it involves the skrulls. It can even show how She-Hulk joins the FF and have Deadpool for the wildcard. Pass it on, please and thank you!
You forgot about spiderman, wolverine, hulk and ghost rider
3:52 - her father lmfaoo
He forget the older Version of Franklin Richards woh joined the Team and also Lyja the Skrull was also a part of the Team. And I also Think Namor was also as the Rooster for a small period of time.And I also not sure, but was Reed Richards Father from the Future also a member of the Team?
Haven't started the video yet. They seriosly forgot Lyja? She was a member for like almost a decade! NAthenial Richards was never a member but he was a big supporting character in the 90s.
None of the characters you mention were ever official members of the team. They were longtime allies, but never official roster position holders. That’s straight from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.
what about that one time doom joined the ff.
He joined the Future Foundation, not the Fantastic Four. His membership would be reflected in that group’s membership.
@@mikeosullivan101 Oh I didn't know that.
Definitely not the Nova I was expecting.
You forgot a bunch of people who joined them.....
I find this content very interesting, could ya just tell me some of them, please?
One love
@@boyankovachev7982 sure, wolverine is an obvious one they skipped (unless i missed them saying it)
@@nekochristmas I can't imagine anyone but wolverine joining the FF
Iceman was also a member
I just looked ans they literally used Wikipedia for this list, it's one for one...
Missing moon girl and devil dinosaur, but that's understandable^^
Can we get a "Worst things Reverse Flash has ever done"?
I would love to see a top list of all the reverse flashes my fave zoom
Future Foundation is cool
You’re missing Iceman. See Fantastic Four (2018) #3 and #24.
ant man stood no chance against doom. How he beat doom is by using his plot powers.
Scott Lang was nowhere near the goob he's portrayed as in the movies and erego more modern comics. He's a brilliant Scientist ckind of filled that role fror the team during Reed's "death"
@@AllPwrflSteve He still stands no chance against dr doom, who is in the top 3 smartest in the marvel universe.
@@kevinlam9437 Except that, well, he did beat him.
@@mikeosullivan101 but he shouldn't have.
@@kevinlam9437 Apparently, Marvel disagrees. Their opinion is the only one that matters, unfortunately.
P. S. - Uh oh. Squirrel Girl beat Doom, too. :)
So we're just going to forget about the time the entire Fantastic Four were replaced by Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine & Ghost Rider then, yeah?
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
4:19 That don't sound like no helmet donning space cop to me
you missed hulk and ghost rider
Is there a reason the wolverine/hulk/ghost rider/spider-man combo was ignored? They were the fantastic four when the ogs were believed to be dead.
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
@@mikeosullivan101
The were among the extended ff in Daniel slotts run. So evidently some people inside marvel count them 🤷🏻♂️
@@andrewbeecroft6509 Extended family includes cousins, aunts, uncles, etc… they are family, but not the immediate family.
Those four are linked to them, but they never served on official rosters. This was confirmed in the Empyre Handbook Fantastic Four entry last year.
Old School Dune music !!!!!and you left out Wolverine Hulk and ghost rider you can’t be trusted as an accurate Marvel info source!!! But you still did a good video and we appreciate your efforts.make mine Marvel true believers!!!!
Looks like most of the Heroes added to the FF were just an excuse for Torch to get laid again..
Well I’m pissed at Alicia AND Johnny now
What about Wolverine, Hulk, and Ghost Rider?
They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team.
Deadpool you’re not Rafiki
Awesome
The Future Foundation!
Please ignore how many of us look like Nazis, I promise it's just nepotism.
Holy shit, I just noticed.
What about Willie Lumpkin??
He was the mailman for the Baxter Building, not a member of the team.
@@mikeosullivan101 Mailman was just his cover. He had an extraordinary ability to wiggle his ears. Now let's be honest: how often haven't we all found ourselves in a position where a strong ear wiggle would totes save the day/world/universe/multiverse? Personally never, but your mileage may vary.
@@jimschleich8753 Valid points! I stand corrected! :)
No mention of the ghost riders, the hulk or wolverine?
They were never members - they were hoaxed by a Skrull into joining a faux Fantastic Four.
You totally forgot the new Fantastic Four
Hulk,Wolverine, Ghost Rider, and Spider-Man.
@@strydorman They were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team.
The art in the new FF series is straight up horrible
Where are Namor and Franklin Richards?
Marvel Spider-Man form 2018 has Spider-Man'fantastic 4 Suit. But it makes Spider-Man wear a bag on his head lmao 😂
Did I miss the Ghost Rider entry?
He was never a member - a Skrull tricked him into joining a faux Fantastic Four, not the real one.
So, was anybody keeping count . . . ?
Part of the first thousand views. I'll take it
No devil dinosaur or moon girl?
They’ve never joined the Fantastic Four.
So basically… Tony Stark told Black Panther to go back to Africa
What about herbie
Whatever happened to she thing? Did they just leave her like that?
I can shorten this video just say this is from the comics and not the movies so kinda canon but also kinda not
Why can I see wolverine there
What about wolverine the hulk Ghost Rider powerhouse brainstorm and sleepwalker
Wolverine/Ghost Rider/Hulk were hoaxed into joining a fake Fantastic Four roster by a Skrull. They were never given membership of the true team. Marvel passed that ruling in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (multiple times).
Powerhouse & Brainstorm are their children and net on the official roster. They were members of the Future Foundation, though.
Sleepwalker has never joined the team. Ally, yes. Member, no.
Fantastic Four > Avengers
5:20
Hello
Never knew Nova was actually the daughter of the android version of the human torch/ Vision . For some reason I feel the High Evolutionary belongs in this story.
She isn’t. She’s the daughter of the *creator* of the android Human Torch, making Nova and Jim Hammond “siblings.”
They all either killed themselves or went into hiding after fan4stic. There, i just saved you 14 minutes of shame.
There Marvel’s top family.
Awesome