to any georgian native speaker here, what is the etymology of the word “gadauli” / “gadavlia” …what is in Georgian called the hot iron (often called poker) that has an “L” shape?
I had a professor try on me a Ko Uchi Makikomi from a Georgian grip. Abolutely brutal, if you guys do the Georgian grip often you should give it a try!
Thats awasome video right here.thanks to the author.many people thinks that Georgian system is based on raw power and strength :)) but thats definitely isnt true.you also need to have high level skill set and timing,without this two i think its just impossible,you will be counter attacked so so badly:)))).
fantastic video! Thank you so much for the video! It’s a pity that other nations have forgotten their national styles of wrestling with or without clothes (English, German, French). Judo is a phenomenal sport.. it’s a pity that they removed the colors for the legs.!
I'm a very tall lanky player so both the Georgian A and over-the-back belt-grip are easily accessible for me. I do get countered a lot in this position by experienced players, and I think it has to do with a lack of posture control. Any tips on how to break posture, and how to form a line of defense against B's counter attacks in this position?
fantastic video! Thank you so much for the video! It’s a pity that other nations have forgotten their national styles of wrestling with or without clothes (English, German, French). Judo is a phenomenal sport.. it’s a pity that they removed the throw teknik for the legs.!Oss!
The throw originated from Chidaoba which is a Georgian folk wrestling style. It made it's way into SAMBO and it was called Gadavlia. It was popularized by Georgian Judokas in the 1980's most notably by Shota Khabareli. The Judo world called it the Khabareli until the Japanese name Obi Tori Gaeshi was assigned to it. One note; it is pronounced Habareli as the K is silent.
@@gregghumphreys6320 Hikikomi gaeshi and obi otoshi were included in the Kyu go Kyo around 1895. Nobody's doing something new, it's just a variation. All the throws, in every art can be found in Judo before those arts were established. (Except for some chinese arts.)
@@KingOfSwords720Georgian Chidaoba was established over thousand years before Judo though, all its current techniques were present in it before Judo became international.
Yup yup yup, great stuff, no doubt. Amoung the japanese youngsters I train with, I'm the only one going georgian. I can pretty much pull off sumi gaeshi with anybody. They're just not prepared for it. I'm having fun while they haven't figured out an answer. Yeah !
Yeah but it's necessary to spend some time in the Georgian position, while in the training room, so as to develop an awareness of the position. Putting in quality hours with that grip, and in that position, will make you faster on-the-draw with it in competition.
I recently started using Georgian grip in my BJJ class and it's been great. No one really knows what to do against it. Most people try for a single leg take down but that's easy enough to handle. I hope we get more videos on throws from Georgian grip!
@@matthewblackwelder6487 Also they panic and try to posture up quickly without establishing the tricep control - that's a great opening for an O Soto Gari. they're pretty much leaning themselves back for you
In this position i really struggle with my training partner making his way around the corner and fully getting behind me. Is this mostly prevented by posture control with the elbow?
I don’t think it’s as popular as it is in BJJ mainly because in judo they usually only get into ground work or ne-waza if a person doesn’t land onto their back and into a turtle in which you will see people do chokes or arm bars. But that’s just my theory.
Inside leg tomoe nage 😅 Grab his back too (with your strong hand). Easily accesible since your opponent is near. Grab the sleeve. Then one foot between his legs and just roll backwards with your whole body. He then has to roll over you. If you follow up the roll, you'll end up in full mount. Best counter i know to many deep grib judo technics❤
It's so funny that in an effort to subjugate Eastern European Judo they Unleashed a monster... by banning leg attacks the IJF/IOC made it harder for Eastern European wrestlers to win in Judo however the "Georgian grip" is only possible in its present form because you're not allowed to touch the legs anymore😂
Most of the folkstyles of wrestling found throughout the world (including Georgian Chidaoba) banned leg attacks long before judo did. The modern IJF rules actually made adapting to Judo easier for athletes from places like Georgia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc.....who have experience in those styles.
@@milanojudo folk wrestling has far too low a participation rate and performance bar, ijf and ioc we're worried about talented International wrestlers being forced to convert to Judo because they knew wrestling was on the Olympic chopping block and very likely to get cut after the next cycle as it was in 2013
Wtf are you huffing cuz. Khabarelli won the Olympics in 1980 with this grip well before the leg ban. You are acting like the Georgian grip is some modern innovation.
Why would the IJF want to bar talented athletes from competing in the sport you dummy lol. Also you're acting like the UWW would cease to exist overnight and there wouldn't be a freestyle world championship anymore. None of this makes sense lol you must be trolling and/or a BJJ guy
georgian judoka here♥️🇬🇪
same here🇬🇪💪
to any georgian native speaker here, what is the etymology of the word “gadauli” / “gadavlia” …what is in Georgian called the hot iron (often called poker) that has an “L” shape?
Same here❤️🇬🇪
@@weltanschauung It means extending over, as in extending your arm over your opponent
@@Caucasian_Shepherd Thank you for your reply!
I had a professor try on me a Ko Uchi Makikomi from a Georgian grip. Abolutely brutal, if you guys do the Georgian grip often you should give it a try!
"sensei that was beautiful" got me 😂
Danke!
Great job. This is a position very powerful.
Thats awasome video right here.thanks to the author.many people thinks that Georgian system is based on raw power and strength :)) but thats definitely isnt true.you also need to have high level skill set and timing,without this two i think its just impossible,you will be counter attacked so so badly:)))).
fantastic video! Thank you so much for the video! It’s a pity that other nations have forgotten their national styles of wrestling with or without clothes (English, German, French). Judo is a phenomenal sport.. it’s a pity that they removed the colors for the legs.!
Thanks from Georgia❤
This was fascinating and helpful.
Great video! Thank you for this excellent breakdown
I'm a very tall lanky player so both the Georgian A and over-the-back belt-grip are easily accessible for me. I do get countered a lot in this position by experienced players, and I think it has to do with a lack of posture control. Any tips on how to break posture, and how to form a line of defense against B's counter attacks in this position?
You camera guy does great work
fantastic video! Thank you so much for the video! It’s a pity that other nations have forgotten their national styles of wrestling with or without clothes (English, German, French). Judo is a phenomenal sport.. it’s a pity that they removed the throw teknik for the legs.!Oss!
What’s the UA-cam channel of the professor in blue please?
Brian Glick
The throw originated from Chidaoba which is a Georgian folk wrestling style. It made it's way into SAMBO and it was called Gadavlia. It was popularized by Georgian Judokas in the 1980's most notably by Shota Khabareli. The Judo world called it the Khabareli until the Japanese name Obi Tori Gaeshi was assigned to it. One note; it is pronounced Habareli as the K is silent.
It's actually kh sound together
Sooo, what was obi tori gaeshi called in 1900, in the Kodokan?
It received it's own classification back in 2017. Prior to that it was regarded as a variant of Hikikomi Gaeshi.
@@gregghumphreys6320 Hikikomi gaeshi and obi otoshi were included in the Kyu go Kyo around 1895. Nobody's doing something new, it's just a variation. All the throws, in every art can be found in Judo before those arts were established. (Except for some chinese arts.)
@@KingOfSwords720Georgian Chidaoba was established over thousand years before Judo though, all its current techniques were present in it before Judo became international.
Yup yup yup, great stuff, no doubt. Amoung the japanese youngsters I train with, I'm the only one going georgian. I can pretty much pull off sumi gaeshi with anybody. They're just not prepared for it. I'm having fun while they haven't figured out an answer. Yeah !
If we stay too much time in this position, even without the belt grip, isn't there a risk of getting a shido ?
Yeah but it's necessary to spend some time in the Georgian position, while in the training room, so as to develop an awareness of the position. Putting in quality hours with that grip, and in that position, will make you faster on-the-draw with it in competition.
This is my go-to versus jujitsu players
I recently started using Georgian grip in my BJJ class and it's been great. No one really knows what to do against it. Most people try for a single leg take down but that's easy enough to handle.
I hope we get more videos on throws from Georgian grip!
@@matthewblackwelder6487 the single leg attempt falls right into my sasae tsuri komi ashi
@@matthewblackwelder6487 Also they panic and try to posture up quickly without establishing the tricep control - that's a great opening for an O Soto Gari. they're pretty much leaning themselves back for you
In this position i really struggle with my training partner making his way around the corner and fully getting behind me. Is this mostly prevented by posture control with the elbow?
Hey coach how popular is the crucifix position or jigoku jime in judo. I use it all the time in jiu jitsu how common is it in judo
I don’t think it’s as popular as it is in BJJ mainly because in judo they usually only get into ground work or ne-waza if a person doesn’t land onto their back and into a turtle in which you will see people do chokes or arm bars. But that’s just my theory.
Is this a good gripping system if you are shorter than your opponent?
If your better than them at it but length can help with the acquisition of the georgian as a long georgian player
that's how they roll in ATL
Someone is gonna get blasted😅
How would someone defend an opponent who loves this grip
Inside leg tomoe nage 😅 Grab his back too (with your strong hand). Easily accesible since your opponent is near. Grab the sleeve. Then one foot between his legs and just roll backwards with your whole body. He then has to roll over you. If you follow up the roll, you'll end up in full mount. Best counter i know to many deep grib judo technics❤
My error then. One of my Russian coaches told me that the K was silent.
It's so funny that in an effort to subjugate Eastern European Judo they Unleashed a monster... by banning leg attacks the IJF/IOC made it harder for Eastern European wrestlers to win in Judo however the "Georgian grip" is only possible in its present form because you're not allowed to touch the legs anymore😂
Most of the folkstyles of wrestling found throughout the world (including Georgian Chidaoba) banned leg attacks long before judo did. The modern IJF rules actually made adapting to Judo easier for athletes from places like Georgia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc.....who have experience in those styles.
@@milanojudo folk wrestling has far too low a participation rate and performance bar, ijf and ioc we're worried about talented International wrestlers being forced to convert to Judo because they knew wrestling was on the Olympic chopping block and very likely to get cut after the next cycle as it was in 2013
Wtf are you huffing cuz. Khabarelli won the Olympics in 1980 with this grip well before the leg ban. You are acting like the Georgian grip is some modern innovation.
Why would the IJF want to bar talented athletes from competing in the sport you dummy lol. Also you're acting like the UWW would cease to exist overnight and there wouldn't be a freestyle world championship anymore. None of this makes sense lol you must be trolling and/or a BJJ guy
Just stop. They banned leg grabs to differentiate from wrestling. Just stop.
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