The Most Overpowered Skill in Nest of Thorns Echelon 7 - Dota 2 Crownfall
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Today I'll show you how broken the best build in Dota 2 Crownfall's mini game called Nest of Thorns. In this video you'll see how broken the Knife throw skill is and how it's easily the best magic build to beat Echelon 7 or difficulty 7 with high scores.
Don't get confused when I said that items are not important in this game. What I meant was it's not as important as getting the correct skills when using re-rolls. Save your re-rolls for skills and not items. Having random items (hopefully with some form of damage) is better than having random skills. This game relies somewhat on luck and skill. The best thing to do is get the first 2 chests and rosh at the start and try to get phalactery, specialist array or crystalys. If you get any of those damage items, the game is likely to let you upgrade it on the next rosh drops and game would be easier, otherwise, it's better to restart. Make sure to level up knives whenever you can and if you have no choice, level up your lowest cd skills as evenly as possible. It's not an auto-win build but it will lead you to the right direction in completing this level.
This Minigame has a huge potential i hope Valve implement this game in Dota 2 permanent with new heros and update :D
I'm hoping it stays but knowing valve, idk really
they won't as they removed both aghanim's labyrinths
such a shame
also the Bomber Man, I really enjoyed it. Except the minesweeper which I used automation to reach high score and the Angry Birds which is frustrating
@@SulitGadgetsPH bro, how?
copied from vampire survivors game
this is the best guide that i have seen in this mini game the most important thing that you have mentioned was to level the other skills evenly so they will become useful I always try to max out 1 skill first thank you so much man with minimal upgrades too you're actually a goat
now i dont have to grind for the tokens I can just enjoy normal games thank you again man you really helped a lot
I'm really glad I was able to help you out ✌
@@alkentv awesome guide thanks
Man, thank you so much. After 1 week of being stuck at Echelon 7, I finally managed to finish it. The Ringmaster Dagger skill, leveling up skills equally, and Track's Aghanim are extremely game changing.
Glad I could help!
Cool guide . For those who still trying use 100% magic here's my summary
Skill : magic missile as 2nd skill and try to max it out . 3rd skill laguna level 3 . Spirit > Chain frost . Priority agha Spirit > Magic Missile > Chain frost.
Item : Specialist array reroll till u get it and max it straight away . Phalactery > Chrystalis > Khanda , Octarine > Timeless Relic > Kaya
Echolon 7 Final Score 1.3 Million . 14:08 Mins . Level 46 . 3,152k gold .
Im gonna be honest. I was gonna make a post on this video after trying to do this build for 2 hours, that you got extremely lucky with your RNG skills and items, since all of my runs had some absurd choices that "soft locked" me out of either items to boost my dmg, either the skills i needed to make it work, although i have maxed the rerolls in the main menu, runs which were ending on horrible and hopeless fails. But before becoming the bad guy, i said, "let's try one more time, i HAVE to be just a bit more lucky". And so i did, ended up with your exact skill build and an almost similar item build (i just fitted a heart of tarasque in there), and it was a piece of cake. Just brilliant.
A million thanks mate! honestly i dont like these type of minigames, but i wanted that voiceline for the past 2 weeks and i was grinding tokens only to upgrade myself in order to get it. Btw, i strongly believe that i would have made it on my own if they didn't nerf the OP af IO's spirits, i managed the first 5 levels with them, and the next morning when i started to play the 6/7 echelon, they were nerfed to death :D So yeah, you kinda saved the day since i wasn't going to play this again. Have a nice day
That's great to hear! The game heavily relies on luck, I should have said to take the first 2 chests and first rosh and try to get a damage item to make the game easier and if you didn't get it at the start, it's best to restart.
Snotty the bat is very good utility skill to keep at lvl 1 he will massively help with picking up gold items and exp
Cool use of the knives! Also very nice how you actually explain your thought process, i wasn´t aware that the Rosh would spawn more based on wether you killed it or not. I will say that I still think the spirits are also a decent choice, got pretty much the same score with the same skillbuild but spirits instead of knives
Thanks so much this build really made it easy for me to complete nest of thorns I've been struggling to finish it for ages!! BIG THUMBS UP!
Thank you. Literally stuck for a week and so sick of grinding tokens with heroes i dont play (i have a small hero pool). This guide actually works with minimal upgrades. Good stuff
bro how to get aghs?
Thank you for this!! Was able to finish in the final hour of the event 😁
Yer angel dude, im almost 1 week trying doing it, almost crying on shower of anger and frustration. 3 tries after looking your guide got it right, thank you so much
Track is so amazing! I leave all the chests on the ground until I beat the first boss and get the track upgrade to get double items! Lets you max out items and then when your maxed out you get bonus levels! When you max out your levels you start getting bonus gold! I use Arcane Bolt, Magic Missile, Chain Frost, Track, Knife Throw. I like magic missile upgraded the most for me. I use Dragonus just beat level 6 will try the last level soon! 930k score on level 6
tysm, i spent hours trying to beat this and youve helped a ton!
I just found out that if you don't pick up any items drops at all until you get aghanims on track from the first roshan, you could get two items on those dropped items. Just skill it once prioritize your rerolls on picking tracking as your first agha. It was the first time I maxed out all items and 6 skills at lvl 24.
thank you so much!! one of the best guides out there
Thanks for sharing. These minigames are not my thing but I'm glad Valved went out of their way creating something different. Since im not used to these types of minigames I wasn't making much progress but your video helped me a ton.
wow this guide is amazing thank you. i looked up bunch of different ways to beat it and this is the best way
Gotta hand it to you, that Knife Throw with the other skills worked like a charm. Though i failed bunch of times at mobs, i did complete it. Appreciate it for sharing, good sire. Cheers!
Man you you aint lying. The daggers were a game changer. thanks!
Thanks man. Just started doing nest of thorn .hopefully i get all the rewards
best i can say is get skills with knockbacks, it helps a lot
1 is a built in on skywrath and 2 is the knives after that, u either get a 1 save option like the stampede or just get every damage you can
Good guide.
I did eventually go for the Throwing Knife Aghanim's instead of Chain Frost because I found that in the final 30 seconds I needed to be able to turn on a whim and still be able to create a path forward (because of meteors/archers), but otherwise I used pretty much this exact build.
@@filipwolffs knifes Aghanim is good?
@@amazing8400 It gives infinite penetration, which is redundant for most of the run if you've been levelling the skill properly, but I think it's extremely useful at the end, because you might need to quickly clear a path forward through dozens of enemies.
thanks man i got it on first try :D this is the best guide
you helped me win this game, thank you very much!
One thing I would like to add is building reaver + ring for heart. It makes the game even easier since sky is so squishy
I go for that as well if rng gives it to me. It's luck based though cause I don't roll for items. Just skills since I only have 2 rerolls.
I usually cant win if I dont have heart and blaidmail because I dont want to rely on finding cheese its too risky. I probably wouldve died multiple times in this tutorial.
Thank you SO much! I was stuck with default full-mage skywrath strategy having trouble with windows of vulnerability when Spirits are on CD. Switching to Throwing Knives is such a game changer! Closed 7th difficulty on 2nd attempt even without Chain Frost. And lost 1st just because first boss encounter randomed the Soul so I wasted too much time kiting it instead of getting exp (really wanted Track ahgs asap and restart otherwise). This strat is the smoothest one I've tried on Echelon 7.
That's awesome! Great work!
Man found this at the last day before event end, and manage to clear lvl7 for the very first time after trying like forever =)
I spend 6 hours trying to beat the first difficulty with kez yesterday because I’m so stubborn and thought the magic users were weaker. Thanks for the video.
fr, i let my league player friend try it cause he said there was a similar game mode there, and he did it first try lmao with magic build
this is good stuff, completed my quest with this solid built
I was able to win thanks to your guide! You're awesome!
Good build! I have very similar build I get 1.5million points with. Differences from yours are skipping XP Tome for Yasha so I can get kaya and yasha, then later sange to combine for Trident. For skill I skipped knife throw for snotty the bat because it picks up things off the ground which brings me more XP and gold
i made 1.3mil score with sky full magic build with track aghs so i can run khanda and tripod (sange+kaya+yasha) no knives no phys skills. You really need the track with khanda so you can kill last wave monsters which gives the most EXP/Score
Thanks man, I've been searching for a magic build and just cant seem to find the right ones. All other videos uses Kez.
Glad I could help
The best guide I’ve seen, gl with the channel
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Dude the boss just spinning..hahahah that damage really high
Looks like my bro finally remembered his youtube password 😅
Very happy to see you back making videos. ❤
Btw why did you get rid of the membership? I was on more than 3 years 😂
Thanks bro! I didn't get rid of it. I was taken out of the partner program due to inactivity.
I just want to finish crownfall and I'm having trouble with Echelon 1 :(
Best walkthrough so far!! I used similar strat for the projectile, the diff is my main skills are throwing dagger, magic missile, arcane bolt, and frostbite. My main items anything that increases the damage, like khanda, anything related to kaya, or daedalous
Bro, here u got my sub, like and commend since u did amazing job with everything!
thank you for your video and skill choice....thanks to you i can finally beat the final boss without using knockback skills
That's awesome!
damn bro tried soo many builds but only this one helped me pass 7, thanks great video
That's awesome!
I spent weeks struggling with all kinds of builds (all of them including IO spirits-I thought they were 100% essential) without any success. Then I came across your guide and thought to myself... knife throw in a magic build? There's no way that would work. I almost closed your video and moved on, but then I decided... why not give it just a try?
Long story short: on my first attempt with your build, I managed to beat level 7 effortlessly-after weeks of frustration. This build is absolutely broken. There's nothing else that even comes close!
Thank you very much, mate! Guide 100% recommended
That's really awesome! Time to spam that imperia voice line in game!
you max everything mate?
Thanks first time win with your guide ❤
this is the best guide that i have seen
Overpowered skills are, axe skill (to repel enemies), techies bombs (Obliterate area), kez skills (sideways hit -repels enemy + aghanims, becomes 4 sides), stampede (saves you when you are cornered + aghanims, it makes your damage to 400+ per hit), the rest is up to you.
For the item: get demon edge + critical, can be combined to become buriza, cool down item, you can choose (yasha + sange) or (ring of tarrasque + reaver) to combine into a much powerful item.
Max (axe, kez skill, then techies bomb)
Get the skill cool down item first
thanks man cleared level 7 bcz of ur video!
Nice work!
Did you know that bosses have very bad turn rate? They are fast but you could dodge them by moving to their side when they are near you.
Great tip! I actually tried it, went full circle around evershade and it couldn't catch me lol
The problem is on Echelon 7 void zones block your way behind the boss's back every now and then. So I don't think this is a reliable way to cheese them, just a good option if you have an opportunity to do so.
having 20% in the damage stat is very underrated I also think the range stat is a trap as you kill things far away at the start and don't want to move for the xp runes. Also it seems the pink runes reduce cooldowns a bit but I don't know what the red ones do they don't heal but I'll have to check another run I think they may give you a slight regen like they are tangos. (or they are a bigger amount of xp like from big mobs)
I don't know about the pink ones but red gives huge amount of xp. Pink is higher xp than the blue stones, but I'm not sure if they have hidden properties other than the xp amount it gives.
Damn this is your most popular vid so far. Congrats!!
After about 100 tries, I finally got the button where a lady says "pathetic".
bro thank you, most awesome nest of thorn guide, you just earned my follow to your channel
Glad it helped! 😁
Great guide, but I think you undersell the importance of getting a maxed out specialist array and kaya as your first items.
Good point! My best advice is to take the first 2 chests and rosh, and if you don't get specialist array,phalactery or crystalys, it's better to reset if you don't have rerolls leveled up like me.
Thats probably coolest minigame on dota 2 hope they add more rewards for playing it :) as for now im happy after I completed it with kez
This minigame should be permanent in the game , also i completed 7 difficulty with this build , Thanks to you boss!
Nice work! I hope it does stay permanently too!
7 echelon is broken itself , I love that skill ,it did help me pass 4 echelon that I was trying to pass for a whole week ,then in a day I completed 5 and 6. But as I said 7 is just too much ,need to max out EVERYTHING in order to have a chance vs boss that insta kills u by running at u with some nitro speed
As long as you put your lowest cd skills like magic missle and arcane bolt along with knives at level 3 or 4 you'd be fine when the higher mobs come. Then you can prioritize maxing out the knives then magic missile so you won't have a hard time against bosses like evershade and wailing mass.
@@neoniccortessjrsmith9223 naaa I Passed it only with 1 extra life. Didnt max anything, just skill gap
then you should try the beyblade build with shen. I find Kez very hard to play with in this mini game
Do you have guide for Shen? Cant even get past Echelon 1😂
So if u have 2 items no matter the lvl u can combine thems into an upgrade.Ex: Khanda.
O thought they both need to be at max lvl to combine
So the purple stones and money doesn't fade away after some time? They stay for the entire game?
Yes, i don't think they disappear
Snotty the bat is god tier for maxxing your exp gains, it's like having a free magnet at all times. Anahilation is kind of a meme, but every time you level it up, it resets the cooldown, so at the end of the game you're basically spamming it to murder enemies.
*Definitely need Projectiles and Cooldown reduction leveled up in your skills to make life easier.
I really liked the Skywrath Magic build from e2-e6 with the pre-patch Spirits, the ones that would stay on constantly like Ana Io in TI9 lol, but since my range upgrades got too high on e7 it was less effective because they would revolve farther away from my hero so they weren't hitting as often and dps was down. and the small mobs could pass between them easily.
So I opted instead for the physical build, with Kez with Swash, Helix, Mines, and Annihilation and for items I just had Octarine, Bloodstone, Crystalis and unfinished Heart. I did manage to get over 1million but not 1.1million like your build had, I think I wasn't farming the Roshans fast enough off cd. Unfortunately my score did not save but I still have another run with about 900k saved, the bug is quite annoying haha
I encountered this bug multiple times, I had a 1.2m win but it didn't register. Sad times
Thank you! I got 1m3+ score with this build
1.392k points. Used track with ags, chainfrost ags and arcane bolts. Kaya&yasha, khanda, octarine, specialist array and timeless relic. Other skills, magic missile, spirits and frostbite
What do you think of waiting to pick up items until after you have track? I have done that trick a few times and you can get trident, khanda, heart and 3 more level 3 items that way... though I don't know if it works on the higher difficulties to skip the items early on
It sometimes works but it depends on the rng. If my knives are high level enough and I feel strong, I leave it on the ground until I get track. If not, I pick it up for some form of boost to get through the waves.
Thanks for the tips. I will try this next time. May I ask why you didn't get the dart aghs?
You're welcome! The arcane bolt has knockback and it doubles the amount of bolts with aghs. Really good keep out tool and damage. The dart aghs is infinite pierce but no knockback. I can plow through any mobs anyway so it's useless.
ALKENNNN bro I miss all of those days on lockdown with you streaming
Good old days!
Is it useful to upgrade your track? I seem to only leave it to level 1 track and Aghs for track only.
No need, it helps get more points but if you just want to finish the game, prioritize other skills. Just take the aghs on track and don't level it.
One question.. u got aghanim on track early.. then it makes treasure from Roshan drop double items.. but it looks like there is maximum items limit that we can get.. after that, I notice that treasure u picked will grant skill instead.. is that true? Or just im imagining things
Yes Apex grants an additional skill slot. I recommend getting it if you have xp tome cause you'll be able to max out all levels before games ends
I never thought I’d last beyond 12 minutes, let alone defeat Queen Imperia (Level 1). But then I stumbled across your video and decided to give it a shot. Your detailed explanation was a game-changer! Maxing all the skills equally, using low-cooldown abilities, and hiding behind the pillar to dodge Imperia’s projectiles-every tip worked like magic.
Yesterday, I finally completed Echelon 1 (yay!). I couldn’t have done it without you.
P.S. I’ve shared your video with my friends. Us noobs do have a chance, thanks to you!
Congrats! The guide also works for higher echelons, but you might need to get some character upgrades.
@oh cool! Thanks again :D Also just subscribed to your channel. Would love to see more content from you!
I won echelon 7 with this build without maxing a single upgrade. I only upgraded the skills outside of the game twice each at most. Some I only managed to upgrade once, like hp, and hp regen.
Edit: Of course, it would've been nowhere near possible to pull off if I hadn't gotten khanda and specialist's array early, followed by octa, trident then timeless relic for max slow and stun. Then for my last slot I had to pick reaver because 1) I was already out of rerolls and 2) I couldn't let a tiny mistake be my demise given Sky's low max hp, and I actually did lose more than half my hp near the end which would've ended my game had I not gone for reaver over demon edge for max dagger phys dmg. For aghs upgrades, I picked track first obviously, then infinite piercing for dagger and finally magic missile's dmg boost. I entered the battle with Imperia with a pathetic level 34-35 and half hp so I immediately rushed towards the cheese. I tried many different builds, and I came to the conclusion that it's impossible to win without maxed upgrades if you don't max daggers first then missile.
I'm also a dagger main and thank you for providing the additional tips.. hopefully I can beat the game this time around xd
You can do it! Goodluck!
man, you defeated the first roshan so fast. I cant do it till like 115 130min... with your build
Try cd and damage upgrades, it could help a lot.
Would this build work better with Shen cuz of his innate? You hit everyone with magic damage which amps the knife spell?
This is better on sky since his innate has extra projectiles. For shen, Magic missile, knife, track, mines, rot/swash, annihilation(if you got apex). This build has enough physical dmg that works with her innate.
Most of upgrades are level 3. Damage, CD Reduction, Aegis & Projectile Count already max but i'm getting killed by the spider with this exact build and also Evershade now so fast. :(
this really helped mate tnx
No problem 👍
What is your opinion on delaying to get the free chest until you got Track aghs? Sometimes Im torn to get those free chest and just lure the Boss on those area
If you got lucky with the RNG and your damage feels like you can clear waves easy, hold off on getting the chests until you get track. But if you feel like you're easily overwhelmed by mobs, I'd say take the chest to get a chance to get damage items.
tried this build and it works very well, thank you
No problem 👍
I hope they dont delete this minigames, its just fun to play sometimes and u can even play with gamepad which u can be more relaxed didnt have to get close to the monitor
If we finish the 7 levels of this mini game will we get the sky and venge skins ?
No you'll get different items per echelons, you'll get a juggernaut skin and 2 imperia voicelines, I can't remember the others.
4 weeks later, and the knife is still broken. My CD redux and projectile skills are just Lv1 and I was able to pass stage 6 easily. Gonna need to get the 1st ags for track though and khanda is also broken.
Bro's "TOUGHEST" part of the game (golem boss) looks like my easiest part. I just struggle all the way through but watching this gave me renewed confidence. Thanks!
You can do it!
Bruh even that rolling flash ball is op ,just runs at u and game over
Great minds think alike! I got curious about the other aghs upgrade and sure enough, discovering track was a game changer.
The only difference with my gameplay was I hold off on the free treasures until I get track aghs. Thank you for this video man
You got tips for maximum gold so I can upgrades more often?
Get track each game as I believe it gives more gold.
Thanks lmao was able to complete it easily and now the highest score as well 1.35M 😊😊
I'm glad I was able to help ✌
I tried the same build & same items but i still get overrun. Guess cooldown and damage upgrades are really essential for the early game. Cant seem to clear mobs fast enough. End up getting chased no matter what i do.
thanks... you are true gamer
bro i tried to copy but never got knife and it still somehow worked with just max arcane bolt and max sange. no other knockback xD. just bc of track. never considered upgrading track. ty bro
Track is really important to max out all skills in the game, once you max out your item slots, rosh will start giving skill points. It's awesome!
the nest survival mini game is lit hope valve dont remove it and will provide us more content
I hope so too
i found it interesting you chose chain frost *and* arcane bolt aghs over knifes or magic missile aghs? can you explain your thought process
lol because they are OP lmao
arcana bolt basically double the projectile and its push any enemy
chain forst basically the best DPS arcana because its keep splitting at 50% chance
Knives before can double the amount when standing still. Now it's just a piercing effect. Like the other guy said, arcane cause it has a knockback and doubles the amount so if you have 10 bolts per attack, with aghs you have 20. Then the chain frost will keep splitting with a 50% chance so you'll just see unending chain frost in your screen. I tried the aghs knives build but it felt weak and had a lower score overall when I finished the game.
i was playing around, and i chanced upon knife throws also after running out of rerolls. Man these knives are insane. The same night i chanced upon techie mines too and found out that shit is broken af XD
Typically, if you have knives throw + mines and throw in axe spin, you can clear easily. item wise just go hearts and blademail.
That's my build for venge, very fun build!
Thanks for the tip!
No problem!
Finally a good guide!
I finally completed echelon 7 after watching this
Awesome! This is great to hear 👍👍
i finished ech 6 with only the basic upgrades[that doesnt require tokens] like hp, move speed and damage leveled once. Now i'm in a rut cuz i cant upgrade anything else lmao. Ech7 is bs without any upgrades
I tried this build without maxing the damage upgrades like you did and the knives did not work as well as in your guide even when prioritized to be leveled first, since they did not always clear a path in front during the tanky hordes. I was able to clear echelon 7 with spirits aghs because they were really good at horde clear.
This game relies heavily on luck when getting skills and items. If you get any form of damage item early game, especially specialist array or phalactery then game would be easier. Once your low cd skills is at 3 or 4, prioritize knives and make sure it's high enough level before the spiders come.
i just finished echelon 7 with those knives. they are so good on skywrath
It's so broken
nice build bro I used it and it was way easier..also I think I got lucky I built kaya & sange + later on just got yash and was surprised it built into a trident :)
Nice work!
how do you deal with the spiders that slow you without an aoe like spirits or rot? edit. watched the video and damn it works!
Get the piercing shot once you upgrade the arcane bolt atleast lvl 4 is enough to take on the spiders
“Items don’t matter” proceeds to get bounty aghs 😂😂😂
Should have still gotten the Yasha early on to build Kaya and Yasha for additional magical damage…missed amplification
You need to spam 2 heroes to max out the mentioned upgrades
BB(Wrath/City/Tundra) and SKY(Sky/Wrath/Love)
That's correct!
Great video but regarding items... if u get Khanda it really really helps :)
It does, it deals a ton of damage which definitely helps if you get lucky with the item rolls.