It was brilliant! Learnt loads from Gordon and Roy (Sorry about the Dance Roy). Some very useful techniques, obviously couldn't put everything in the video but it was invaluable advice. Some people have asked what we need to do to get a licence in the UK. First you need to do a Compulsory Basic Training, then you do a Mod 1 which is all slow maneuvering (figure of 8, U-turns, emergency braking etc) then you do your Mod 2 which is assessed riding in the real world where you follow instructions with an assessor and then do 10 mins of independent riding. The advanced rider training takes what you learnt and further develops those skills. Well worth it
Great video guys You also have the different type of licenses ? I started riding in 2018 with the A2 license at age 22 I changed to A this year Here u can start directly on A at 24 or after 2 years of A2 U could also get the A1 at 16 but with that you can only ride 125cc bikes I started on a Yamaha Virago 250 then had the Dragstar 650 which is perfect for the A2 license Now that I switched to A I have a VN 800 although it's not that I initially wanted to get(Intruder 1400) gotta see what I get next :)
Push left to go left, push right to go right. Unless you have a sidecar, then you steer like a car. That is until the wind lifts your sidecar up , then you're back to counter steering, until the wind let's your hack drop back down. Actually though once you get used to push left go left and push right go right (counter steering), you'll be amazed how much smoother your turns become. And you'll be able to spot the choppyness of those who don't have that skill. Another awesome video!
Thanks Joe, yes we learnt counter steering with the pushing of the bars which is what we do mainly when riding now, it comes naturally after a while. Would love to try a side car, we actually would love to tour Europe with a friend in the side car and visit the WW2 sites that he knows.
@@justsomeoneinthecommentsse5249 Yeah you're right, and it ridin it becomes second nature very quick. I think my mind just goes back to a 4 or 5 hour ride home from w.va. . Probably been 40 years ago in a serious wind storm. Pretty rare occurrence, but man I know I wishin I had some weight in her that time.
@@joecrone9862 I used to do some crazy amateur sidecar racing with a buddy many years ago, on grass, using an old army bike my buddy found in some old ladies chicken coop covered in poop and feathers. Can't remember the make but it had plunger rear suspension. Also put a Steib on my Bonneville for a short while around that time too.
@@justsomeoneinthecommentsse5249 That's so cool. My first hack was on an old Harley kR 750. Basically a sportster but they still ran flatheads. It was a retired flat track racer that they raced with another fella ridin in the hack. Man I sure wished I'd kept that one. It was crazy fast.
I am constantly amazed by how beautiful the scenery is. No I’m envious of where you ride. West Virginia has some amazing scenery but I hate to admit that you have us beat. Keep the videos coming I look forward to seeing them. Thanks!!!
I agree, Tim. I'm in MD, just south of PA. I always try to find nice routes, north and west of here, and there are plenty. But Carolyne and Brian seem to always be on the most gorgeous roads in the world. I don't think they could find a bad route if they tried.
Thanks Tim, The roads are fun to ride and they keep you busy all the time, always something to look at or be aware of. As Carolyne says though, we can't wait to ride in the US
Another great video! Motorcycle riding is a continuous learning experience. I think I learn something new every time I swing a leg over. Great job guys! Fun to watch. Beautiful scenery!
Brian Carolyne, hats off to you both your vlogs are getting even better and this one's so funny, see naming someone a baby hippo they never forget it hmmmm hahaha, counter steering is a fantastic tool to have great job and again amazing roads. I bet Roy is crying watching him self dancing on the side of the road hahaha. 🤘🤘🏴🏴🏴
I'm confused, doesn't everyone always do this, ?, how else are you supposed to steer, learn to ride a push bike first, I'm using the knowledge, basic knowledge for a powered bike,😁
@@philiproyffe8022 I've known about counter steering for 20+ years why are you confused ?, if no one has discussed it with them or demonstrated it then how are they to no.
So now I can officially say, “I rode my bike with the BunnyKings!” Well, I rode my bike while they rode their bikes on the screen of my phone attached to my handle bars with their voices coming through the speakers in my helmet! And I pulled off to a side street and watched the video while sitting on my Street Glide for the next 20minutes.
@@BunnyKingHogs I was pulled over by the time I typed “1st”….of coarse I pulled over… what’s that word Carolyne uses (insert one of a dozen here), well I’m not that! LOL I’m pretty cautious and safe… mostly! Haha
Another very good video guys. It is interesting watching your riding development, as we have all been there and experienced the same sorts of things you have. What I especially like is the honesty of your videos as many of us like to think we do things right in our riding all of the time, but of course we don't. What you two do is to talk about it and try to improve and that comes over as very genuine. Learning tips from more experienced riders like Gordon and Roy really helps. We all take in a different amount when we first learn to ride and counter-steering and lane positioning are things I see many many riders not truly understanding until someone reminds them again way after they passed their test. It wasn't until I rode behind a married couple who both ride and I watched them moving from one side of the lane to another as they approached left and right bends that I truly got to understand what correct lane positioning was all about - all of a sudden I got it and now many years later, that is an everyday part of my riding, as is counter-steering. When people come on our tours, they often leave as better riders because they have been able to follow other riders for a week or two and learn from them. Anyway, well done again to both of you for putting out such an entertaining and honest video.
Great video again Carolyne and Brian. The photography was stunning. Makes you wonder why people want to go abroad to lie on a beach and burn all day when we have countryside like this.
Great video!! Fun stuff! Your training is much the same as Canada! Apex in the corners was something I had to learn, I was much like you would question like why you over there? Makes sense now when I am in the curves!!! Fun video!!!
Thanks Harley Gurl! Definitely makes you ride quicker, it makes sense and not a problem when there are road markings, gets a little bit tricker when the road is no wider than a car and has no white lines
I've been riding for a long time and have and have done a lot of practicing. It's always makes me laugh watching people learn new skills and makes me remember when I first started. Great video can't wait for the next one 😀 👍
Another great video I have all that to look forward to as I collected my first ever bike on Saturday morning I got a Vulcan s 650 because I'm kind of vertically challenged lol
I’m so proud of my BunnyKing Buddies for hitting 10,000 subscribers on this video! You guys do such a great job and you have put many smiles on my face and I assume many others over this last year… thank you!!!!
@@BunnyKingHogs the the craziness of the 2020 and 2021, you both have provided entertainment and friendship. Prior to the pandemic I very rarely watched UA-cam and I have no other social media other than LinkedIn, so you have also educated me. You put out great content and both Bonnie and I respect the work and creativeness you put into entertaining us. We also respect that you are putting yourselves out to the world… you’ve made long distance friends with us! Luv you 2!
Another amazing tour of the country side. As far as your fear of switchbacks, remember that courage isn’t the absence of fear, it is being afraid, but pushing through it and overcoming it, or some shit like that, I butchered it badly. Keep the videos coming, it’s been roughly 30 years since I’ve been to GB, just wish I could have had the chance to see the parts you all were in when I was there. Gerry
Good effort Gerry!! I get what you mean. She is more than capable, and the fact she does switch backs every time we ride without a problem, it is a silly fear. Thanks for watching, maybe we get to travel again soon.
Great video, 👍. These ones are my favourites, you two riding around, having a chat , a flirt and a laugh. Brilliant. Try and watch A Twist Of The Wrist, it's an in depth explanation of riding the right lines around bends and countersteering, I found it really interesting when I was doing my advanced riders course.
Great to see you picking up skills. It gets way easier the more you do it, trust me. Counter steer is key to twisty riding. You're going to love it even more.
Congrats on a great class! You've always been counter steering you just didn't know it. I was taught it as push steering. Push on the right hand grip and the bike leans right. That is how bikes turn at speed. Getting used to the technique just takes practice. Also I struggled with turning my head with the turn, but it really works. Where you turn your head is where that bike will go. I rode mini / dirt bikes as a kid which is completely different from street bikes. I didnt get my first street bike till I was a lot older. Dont worry about speed, the better your technique / confidence, the speed will come. Ride your ride I was always told. Great job guys. Be safe.
Thanks Ryan, yeah we learnt to push left to go left, the difference with the pulling on the bar makes the bike jump across which is useful to get out of the way of some nutter drivers, although take some getting used to as its not intuitive. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
Great scenery as usual. Loved the impromptu dance routine. I’ve practiced counter steering one handed since I have a bike with cruise control now and ride with one hand on the bars fairly often. I want it to be second nature like doing it with two hands.
I had a bad crash almost 20 years ago. It still affects my riding and confidence. But I’m so so much better than I was right after. In the States we have some wild roads like the Tail of the Dragon in Tennessee and North Carolina. We have the Pig Trail in Arkansas. They are twisty roads with switchbacks. I ride them fine. Maybe not as fast as some, but still faster than other. Ride your ride and enjoy this great hobby we all share a passion for.
I find it incredible that these two guys are telling you these things about riding, quite a long time after you taking your test, that you would have had to learn in 🇨🇭 *before* taking your driving test, in order to pass it.... wow! Makes me wanna come to 🏴 to take my test there and see what is actually involved to successfully pass!!
It's one of the toughest in the World, or it used to be. It's basically 3 practical tests and one theory test on a PC. You can't even throw a leg over a 125cc without completing a CBT test.
Uk motorcycle tests: First you have to complete a compulsory basic training course. Then: Module 1 You'll take the module 1 test in an off-road motorcycle manoeuvring area. The test normally takes about 20 minutes and includes: wheeling the moped or motorcycle and using the stand riding a slalom and figure of 8 a slow ride a U-turn cornering and a controlled stop cornering and an emergency stop cornering and hazard avoidance For the hazard avoidance and emergency stop exercises you must ride at a minimum speed of: 19 mph on a moped 31 mph on a motorcycle Theory test needs to be taken before module 2. This is completed in an examination centre Module 2: The module 2 test normally takes about 40 minutes and includes: an eyesight check ‘show me, tell me’ vehicle safety questions road riding independent riding You must bring your module 1 pass certificate to the module 2 test, plus all the documents you had to bring to the module 1 test. Eyesight check You’ll have to read a number plate from a distance of: 20 metres for vehicles with a new-style number plate 20.5 metres for vehicles with an old-style number plate New-style number plates start with 2 letters followed by 2 numbers, for example AB51 ABC. You’ll fail your riding test if you fail the eyesight check. ‘Show me, tell me’ questions You’ll be asked 2 vehicle safety questions known as the ‘show me, tell me’ questions. These test that you know how to carry out basic safety checks. Road riding You’ll drive in various road and traffic conditions, but not on motorways. You’ll be asked to carry out: normal stops an angle start (pulling out from behind a parked vehicle) a hill start (where possible) The examiner will give you directions using a radio. They’ll normally follow you on a motorcycle. Driving test routes are not published, so you can not check them before your test. Independent riding You’ll have about 10 minutes of independent riding. This is designed to assess your ability to ride safely while making your own decisions. You can ask the examiner to repeat the directions if you forget them - you will not fail the test if you go off the route. You can not use sat nav.
@@carolynemoolenschot2907 A very comprehensive driving test procedure, but what you learned in this video does not give us the impression that the cornering and counter press techniques were a part of this test itinery you have kindly given in reply to my comment. Once again a good and entertaining, plus for some, an informative video. Thanks. Beautiful scenery up there, a good tip for my next biking hol in '22. Greets from 🇨🇭, Steve.
Thanks Steve :) They did touch on it but it’s all so overwhelming when learning. The advanced course just picks on things that you may have forgotten or fixed bad habits Love Switzerland!! Xxx
Good on you both! Bravo Zulu! Your doing great, and as always I love your vlogs. Very down to earth and normal in your own way. Which is actually most entertaining and enjoyable. I always feel like I'm out for a putt with you two. 🤠
Your rides are so beautiful, different from what we have in the states. The scenery is spectacular. Your roads are incredibly tight with the hedges along side of them. I get nervous watching y’all ride waiting for a car to be on the wrong side of the road. We are taught to push when we counter steer. The guys had a lot of good advice, not sure I would be straying in the other lane on blind turns though. Carolyne stop being so hard on yourself, the more switch backs you ride your confidence will improve. Be safe out there.
HAHA Roy was Brilliant. It is actually far better when I scrub it in edit, I just don't know how to do it and make it a video, something to learn I guess
I think you guys would enjoy Jerry paladino videos,he's a riding instructor here in the states that's pretty popular and has loads of great advice,I'm a 62 year old that's been riding since I was around 15,and I've learned lots from his videos, mostly about cornering and U-turns at slow speeds, loving your channel.
Uk motorcycle tests: First you have to complete a compulsory basic training course. Then: Module 1 You'll take the module 1 test in an off-road motorcycle manoeuvring area. The test normally takes about 20 minutes and includes: wheeling the moped or motorcycle and using the stand riding a slalom and figure of 8 a slow ride a U-turn cornering and a controlled stop cornering and an emergency stop cornering and hazard avoidance For the hazard avoidance and emergency stop exercises you must ride at a minimum speed of: 19 mph on a moped 31 mph on a motorcycle Theory test needs to be taken before module 2. This is completed in an examination centre Module 2: The module 2 test normally takes about 40 minutes and includes: an eyesight check ‘show me, tell me’ vehicle safety questions road riding independent riding You must bring your module 1 pass certificate to the module 2 test, plus all the documents you had to bring to the module 1 test. Eyesight check You’ll have to read a number plate from a distance of: 20 metres for vehicles with a new-style number plate 20.5 metres for vehicles with an old-style number plate New-style number plates start with 2 letters followed by 2 numbers, for example AB51 ABC. You’ll fail your riding test if you fail the eyesight check. ‘Show me, tell me’ questions You’ll be asked 2 vehicle safety questions known as the ‘show me, tell me’ questions. These test that you know how to carry out basic safety checks. Road riding You’ll drive in various road and traffic conditions, but not on motorways. You’ll be asked to carry out: normal stops an angle start (pulling out from behind a parked vehicle) a hill start (where possible) The examiner will give you directions using a radio. They’ll normally follow you on a motorcycle. Driving test routes are not published, so you can not check them before your test. Independent riding You’ll have about 10 minutes of independent riding. This is designed to assess your ability to ride safely while making your own decisions. You can ask the examiner to repeat the directions if you forget them - you will not fail the test if you go off the route. You can not use sat nav.
Hi Ronald, completely agree. We learnt the counter steering with our test. That was the pushing left to go left etc. Pulling right to jump left was something that was new. We were on the road for 10 hours, I created a vlog, maybe I should have done a more instructional video with more of Gordon and Roys teachings... What you think?
I've watched quite of your videos now and I must say your seemed to be enjoying the moment more on this one and the kiss at the beginning confirms that despite a learning experience the joy of riding was back Glad to see
Great job on learning counter skills it almost look like Roy was trying to dance 🕺when he was showing you how 🤣. But great video, keep up the learning skills and be safe.
@@BunnyKingHogs it was great. You two always keep us entertained. We definitely get honesty, humor, education and never a dull moment. Thus us why you two are AWESOME.
Superb yet again 🙌 great content, great editing and most importantly, great fun 🤩 some of the music you pick is so haunting and relaxing 😌 it just soothes your mind. Please don’t feel any pressure either on the bikes or when creating content, it stops being fun for you and if it stops being fun then why bother. Thanks again and I can’t wait for the next episode. 🙌👍🏍
thought counter steering was taught at every motorcycle course.learned that in my safety course back in 1974 in montreal.great vid as always.my gawd your roads are narrow.had to google the highest bar in canada.at 7700 feet its up a ways.ive been in the area but never rode up the mountain to the restaurant/bar/motel at the top.bet the view is awesome.on my list to do next summer now.
We did learn counter steering during our tests, the push left to go left etc. The pulling on the bar to jump the bike across the road to avoid any numptys on the road was something new. We should go visit that pub
Great video as normal. Did a advanced training years ago and it stays with you but counter steering does take time to sink in. Lovely place to ride very jealous.
It may seem odd but it is safer to ride how he is riding 👍if your out in the middle you get to see the numptys a lot sooner giving you more time to react👍👍
@@BunnyKingHogs very true I'll never understand why we are not taught the safer way to ride from the beginning 👍but it really does not only make it safer but the flow you ride at will make the ride much easier on you and your confidence 👍tell Brian top editing as always👏👏x
In the opening song it mentioned Appalachians I only mention it myself because I live in the Appalachian mountains myself, I got kicked out of riding school so I’m totally self taught nice video
Are familiar with Abington. It is about 40 miles from London. It would make a nice day trip. When you get there ask for directions to “The Brewry Tap”. After getting to the tap, ask for JD or Matt and you’ll enjoy what most people don’t expect. A B/F extronaque. See ya.
Another Great ride through some beautiful scenery. 👍👍 You two are full of surprises.😁 So far, with the exception of the Pan Am drop I've loved all of them. 😁 I can't say that I've ever seen instructors use those methods of teaching basic MC riding skills. 🤔😊 At this point I'm reasonably sure that I've seen most if not all of your videos including the Swiss series. You haven't been using Counter Steering!!!?😨 I have to ask. 🤷♂️ Are you familiar with the principles of Counter Balancing? If not then you should check into it. Respect & Best Wishes 🙋♂️
🤓 another great vid you two! Just love the countryside there. Counter steering can save your ass. It’s essential to know and do. Thanks for sharing 🤓😊😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
Doing advanced training is great fun and transforms the whole motorcycle riding experience. Another fab and funny film…well done both. Love the drone footage too. Question Caroline- your stickered helmet… is that the same one you wore when you had the spill and hit your head on the tarmac or a new helmet? I hope it is! Take care both.
You might also want to think about taking it one step further and doing ROSPA or IAM. Which is similar to what you have just done just more in depth/more systematic and over a longer period of time. (ROSPA requires recertification every couple of years as well)
Hmm I found it strange that the instructors were teaching a pull of the opposite grip rather than a push of the inside turn grip. In a pull motion you need fingers engaged on the grip, which prevents you from feathering your brake or pulling on your clutch lever if you need to. In the California Motorcycle Safety Course the Counter Steering taught is always a slight push on the inside grip, thus "Counter Steering". Your pushing hand has much more control being closer to your body. The whole concept is centered around the Camber of the wheel. If you've ever stood next to a really heavy bike that you were going put on a center stand you always turn the wheel slightly away from you so that the bike will want to fall toward you (you don't want to be in the position of a 900 lb bike falling away from you cause trust me you won't pull it back after it hits the tipping point). Anyway . . .Geez thats probably too much right? Oh well good stuff all around.
Thanks Cameron, appreciate the comment. We were taught counter steering in our test but pulling on the bar to avoid some numpty really does jump the bike out of the way. Surprisingly quite effective. Thanks for watching
@@kassiedreaneai7459 Hi kassie, sorry only just seen this response. Thank you for all the info. I know the left leg in the UK is recommended as it keeps your leg away from incoming traffic, however I prefer the right as the road cambers off to the left and it leans the bike more. Brian tends to follow when we ride , we just make it work and as we are constantly chatting with one another we kind of have an idea of what each other is doing. Appreciate all the tips and advice, thank you!
@@samuraidarryl I guess in context, we do push right to go right when riding and taking bends, what Gordon was saying is if you needed to "jump" the bike quickly in the opposite direction a pull on the bar is really responsive. That is why we tried it cause we didn't believe him
Carolyn there are two types of riders those who just ride and those who ride safe. Riding safe is riding within your trained zone. I never tell my son, be careful. I always tell him be safe. He has a risky job as a police officer. Being careful will get him killed. Being safe keeps him within his trained zone. The more training the more safe you'll be. The more careful you are the more you think and try in yourself not to get hurt. That always leads to mistakes. So ride safe. The safer you are the more trained you are. I hope that has made sense. You're doing great. You were right its like your getting your exam all over again. We love you guys and we don't want a tragedy. So ride safe dear. (OK I will never mention this again.) Always ride your ride. You're a big girl now. You live with your consequences. ❤
Thanks NBT, appreciate you taking the time to comment. We learnt loads from the few days we were there, really useful. Does he ride bikes as a Police officer?
@@BunnyKingHogs Yes. He is in a city so they have zeros (electric enduros). Brian (Bryan, if your momma looked down and said "why?" when you were born. lol inside joke...) you guys are so awesome.
LOL..........I am in Wisconsin and last time I rode my bike was middle of November and we were at -2 C 🥶 I am just dreaming with warmer weather LOL. Keep posting your videos !!!
A group bike ride is fun sometimes 🏍️. Yep nothing wrong with looking around while yr riding. I do it all the time. Yeah counter steering is weird. I prefer leaning into the corner off the bike slightly as I think it's much easier & safer especially on tight corners. Great winding roads near the end of the vid. Hawes looks like a cool town. Ps you'll get your confidence back soon. Just keep on riding 🏍️👍
I just passed my basic motorcycle safety coarse yesterday. I been riding for 3 and a half years. May look into an advanced class after I practice the basic stuff til it is second nature and natural.
Finally I understood what I want, a touring (road king) on evo, with carburetor. Other engines, TC 88 and higher are acceptable as an exception, as TC is little bit cheaper then evo, also a softail acceptable in good combination condition and cost. Have you ever seen 88TC electra glide standard without music?
I agree with millinutz. You would not have passed your riding test and gotten your license in the US if you had not already learned these techniques. I am glad however that you took my advice and started getting some proper training. What you really need though is to learn how to do U-turns and figure 8's. comfortable. You do this by practicing in a parking lot and not on the road. You know you are really weak in this area. Please get someone good to teach you these skills. Best Of Luck!!!
Uk motorcycle tests: First you have to complete a compulsory basic training course. Then: Module 1 You'll take the module 1 test in an off-road motorcycle manoeuvring area. The test normally takes about 20 minutes and includes: wheeling the moped or motorcycle and using the stand riding a slalom and figure of 8 a slow ride a U-turn cornering and a controlled stop cornering and an emergency stop cornering and hazard avoidance For the hazard avoidance and emergency stop exercises you must ride at a minimum speed of: 19 mph on a moped 31 mph on a motorcycle Theory test needs to be taken before module 2. This is completed in an examination centre Module 2: The module 2 test normally takes about 40 minutes and includes: an eyesight check ‘show me, tell me’ vehicle safety questions road riding independent riding You must bring your module 1 pass certificate to the module 2 test, plus all the documents you had to bring to the module 1 test. Eyesight check You’ll have to read a number plate from a distance of: 20 metres for vehicles with a new-style number plate 20.5 metres for vehicles with an old-style number plate New-style number plates start with 2 letters followed by 2 numbers, for example AB51 ABC. You’ll fail your riding test if you fail the eyesight check. ‘Show me, tell me’ questions You’ll be asked 2 vehicle safety questions known as the ‘show me, tell me’ questions. These test that you know how to carry out basic safety checks. Road riding You’ll drive in various road and traffic conditions, but not on motorways. You’ll be asked to carry out: normal stops an angle start (pulling out from behind a parked vehicle) a hill start (where possible) The examiner will give you directions using a radio. They’ll normally follow you on a motorcycle. Driving test routes are not published, so you can not check them before your test. Independent riding You’ll have about 10 minutes of independent riding. This is designed to assess your ability to ride safely while making your own decisions. You can ask the examiner to repeat the directions if you forget them - you will not fail the test if you go off the route. You can not use sat nav.
Thanks Stony, appreciate the comment. Obviously I can't put all 13 hours of video into 26 mins of a youtube, there was alot more to the day - I just selected the bits that fitted. The advanced rider training adds something extra to what was already an extensive test and helps to eliminate any bad habits you may have picked up whilst riding. It was very useful. We did do slow maneuvers and we did some tight turns and switch backs which was very useful. Carolyne can do it, just lacks the confidence sometimes. She actually passed her bike test with a higher score /less errors than me. Thanks for watching
Counter steering is how a bike turns. At anything over maybe 10mph, it's the only way to turn. You did great. I should take some additional training myself. You can never learn enough.
Great vid both. I used to counter steer all the time on my fatboy due to its size was easier to ride that way. I still do it on my sports tourer but not as much but find it helps a lot for avoidance. Ride safe 👍👍
Thanks for sharing! The pushing left to go left and push right to go right we learnt during our test, the pulling right to jump left was useful for numpty avoidance. Thanks for watching
Counter steering is something all motorcyclists (and cyclists) do subconsciously, because that is the only way to get around a corner above walking speed, but when you do it consciously, you have more control.
I lived in England for 2 years in '91 - "93 at RAF Upper Heyford. This Really makes me want to come visit!!! Who you suggest For HD rentals, and about how much would it usually cost to do that? Also, is the US Motorcycle license recognized, or would you have to do something to be allowed to ride?
Isn’t counter steering fun but also a mystery? It eventually becomes natural to you but you were doing great. Don’t get down on yourself about the switchback turns. You took a tough fall and you have to build your confidence up to learn how to do them. You’ll get there I’m sure. Just keep having fun!
It was greta fun. We know the counter steering when you push on the bar, but the pulling was very useful to jump out of the way of Numpty drivers. Thanks for watching Ken
Finally you start to get it. You find that now you know so much more about looking thru corners, positioning yourself upon approach to a bend and counter steering etc that you are now focusing on the road and what you are doing that you find commentary hard. When you are on the road on a motorbike you need to concentrate on riding to stay alive. As you get more experienced you can commentate more. Do you wonder about what you had been doing and getting away with now that you have more of an understanding of riding? One important thing they haven’t mentioned (maybe they will as I haven’t got to the end yet) but look where you want to go and you go there. Look where you don’t want to go and you will sadly go there instead. And with counter steering you will find the push forward is even more responsive if you lean forward with it. Go watch a GP on tv.
@@BunnyKingHogs thoroughly enjoy your vids and the scenery is to die for. Australia is vast and very beautiful. It truely is amazing. However there is nothing that I have found that resembles what you guys have there. It’s a desire to one day get to England and ride thru the midlands and Wales etc. That won’t be anytime soon but it will happen. Enjoy your riding and your wonderful country.
@@samuraidarryl Yeah, having had the bikes have made us appreciate what we have surrounding us. We have a real desire to ride in Australia, maybe we swap one day HAHA
Great video guys I don't a lot of people that needs to watch that lol I never heard of call it counter staring before but yeah work I learned when I was riding dirt bikes... lol apparently a lot of people has never heard in riding in a staggered formation I rode in a Memorial Day ride there was over 1000 bikes there and it would really piss me off when somebody tried to pass me if you have one lane to ride in you are not supposed to try to pass the bike in front of you LOL I had a trike one single Lane to ride in he didn't leave me no room they just about pushed me into the oncoming traffic
It was brilliant! Learnt loads from Gordon and Roy (Sorry about the Dance Roy). Some very useful techniques, obviously couldn't put everything in the video but it was invaluable advice. Some people have asked what we need to do to get a licence in the UK. First you need to do a Compulsory Basic Training, then you do a Mod 1 which is all slow maneuvering (figure of 8, U-turns, emergency braking etc) then you do your Mod 2 which is assessed riding in the real world where you follow instructions with an assessor and then do 10 mins of independent riding. The advanced rider training takes what you learnt and further develops those skills. Well worth it
Great video guys
You also have the different type of licenses ?
I started riding in 2018 with the A2 license at age 22
I changed to A this year
Here u can start directly on A at 24 or after 2 years of A2
U could also get the A1 at 16 but with that you can only ride 125cc bikes
I started on a Yamaha Virago 250 then had the Dragstar 650 which is perfect for the A2 license
Now that I switched to A I have a VN 800 although it's not that I initially wanted to get(Intruder 1400) gotta see what I get next :)
Glad you are getting additional instruction and sharing. Triple benefit. You, others on the road, and folks you may influence through these videos.
Thanks JC, we learnt loads and if it encourages others to try then great. Thanks for watching
Push left to go left, push right to go right. Unless you have a sidecar, then you steer like a car. That is until the wind lifts your sidecar up , then you're back to counter steering, until the wind let's your hack drop back down. Actually though once you get used to push left go left and push right go right (counter steering), you'll be amazed how much smoother your turns become. And you'll be able to spot the choppyness of those who don't have that skill. Another awesome video!
Thanks Joe, yes we learnt counter steering with the pushing of the bars which is what we do mainly when riding now, it comes naturally after a while. Would love to try a side car, we actually would love to tour Europe with a friend in the side car and visit the WW2 sites that he knows.
An empty sidecar will always lift if you're turning in towards it too fast, wind or no wind.
@@justsomeoneinthecommentsse5249 Yeah you're right, and it ridin it becomes second nature very quick. I think my mind just goes back to a 4 or 5 hour ride home from w.va. . Probably been 40 years ago in a serious wind storm. Pretty rare occurrence, but man I know I wishin I had some weight in her that time.
@@joecrone9862 I used to do some crazy amateur sidecar racing with a buddy many years ago, on grass, using an old army bike my buddy found in some old ladies chicken coop covered in poop and feathers. Can't remember the make but it had plunger rear suspension. Also put a Steib on my Bonneville for a short while around that time too.
@@justsomeoneinthecommentsse5249 That's so cool. My first hack was on an old Harley kR 750. Basically a sportster but they still ran flatheads. It was a retired flat track racer that they raced with another fella ridin in the hack. Man I sure wished I'd kept that one. It was crazy fast.
Again WOW , what a beautiful country side ! You're doing great !
Thank you so much 😀. When the weather is good everything looks great
I am constantly amazed by how beautiful the scenery is. No I’m envious of where you ride. West Virginia has some amazing scenery but I hate to admit that you have us beat. Keep the videos coming I look forward to seeing them. Thanks!!!
Thank you so much, Tim! We can wait to ride in America at some point xxx
I agree, Tim. I'm in MD, just south of PA. I always try to find nice routes, north and west of here, and there are plenty. But Carolyne and Brian seem to always be on the most gorgeous roads in the world. I don't think they could find a bad route if they tried.
Thanks Tim, The roads are fun to ride and they keep you busy all the time, always something to look at or be aware of. As Carolyne says though, we can't wait to ride in the US
Another great video! Motorcycle riding is a continuous learning experience. I think I learn something new every time I swing a leg over. Great job guys! Fun to watch. Beautiful scenery!
Absolutely! Thanks for watching Mitch. Always learn something every day, like not to give carolyne chocolate coated coffee beans before riding!
Brian Carolyne, hats off to you both your vlogs are getting even better and this one's so funny, see naming someone a baby hippo they never forget it hmmmm hahaha, counter steering is a fantastic tool to have great job and again amazing roads. I bet Roy is crying watching him self dancing on the side of the road hahaha. 🤘🤘🏴🏴🏴
Thanks so much Alan, you have to be nice though! HAHA
Appreciate the compliments and the continued support. I really hope Roy doesn't ind the dancing!
I'm confused, doesn't everyone always do this, ?, how else are you supposed to steer, learn to ride a push bike first, I'm using the knowledge, basic knowledge for a powered bike,😁
@@philiproyffe8022 I've known about counter steering for 20+ years why are you confused ?, if no one has discussed it with them or demonstrated it then how are they to no.
So now I can officially say, “I rode my bike with the BunnyKings!”
Well, I rode my bike while they rode their bikes on the screen of my phone attached to my handle bars with their voices coming through the speakers in my helmet!
And I pulled off to a side street and watched the video while sitting on my Street Glide for the next 20minutes.
Awesome, although very unsafe! Glad you pulled over. Naughty Naughty Pete
@@BunnyKingHogs I was pulled over by the time I typed “1st”….of coarse I pulled over… what’s that word Carolyne uses (insert one of a dozen here), well I’m not that! LOL I’m pretty cautious and safe… mostly! Haha
Brilliant! Commentary very entertaining. 👍😂
Glad you think so! I had 13 hours of that to go through from 1 day of riding
Awesome video! You all are doing great!!
Thanks Kenny, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching. Hope you are well
Another very good video guys. It is interesting watching your riding development, as we have all been there and experienced the same sorts of things you have. What I especially like is the honesty of your videos as many of us like to think we do things right in our riding all of the time, but of course we don't. What you two do is to talk about it and try to improve and that comes over as very genuine. Learning tips from more experienced riders like Gordon and Roy really helps. We all take in a different amount when we first learn to ride and counter-steering and lane positioning are things I see many many riders not truly understanding until someone reminds them again way after they passed their test. It wasn't until I rode behind a married couple who both ride and I watched them moving from one side of the lane to another as they approached left and right bends that I truly got to understand what correct lane positioning was all about - all of a sudden I got it and now many years later, that is an everyday part of my riding, as is counter-steering. When people come on our tours, they often leave as better riders because they have been able to follow other riders for a week or two and learn from them. Anyway, well done again to both of you for putting out such an entertaining and honest video.
thanks so much Gary!! ❤️
Great video again Carolyne and Brian. The photography was stunning. Makes you wonder why people want to go abroad to lie on a beach and burn all day when we have countryside like this.
We are very lucky! Have to have the flexibility to go with sunshine though :) xx
Thanks Graham, agree to a point. Weather is the main issue. But when its nice, its beautiiful
I just love you guys. Fabulous content, stunning scenery and lots of humour. My favourite UA-cam channel.
Thanks so much 😊 Rowdy Rod, really appreciate that. Need a few more to get 10k subs...know anyone HAHA
Advance riding skills are great once you get the hang of counter steering it makes riding so safe . Love you guys great entertainment 👍😎
Great video!! Fun stuff!
Your training is much the same as Canada!
Apex in the corners was something I had to learn, I was much like you would question like why you over there? Makes sense now when I am in the curves!!!
Fun video!!!
Thanks Harley Gurl! Definitely makes you ride quicker, it makes sense and not a problem when there are road markings, gets a little bit tricker when the road is no wider than a car and has no white lines
Naughty words? Perfect!
Great stuff doing the rider training. No matter what your experience and years of riding are, it’s always good doing training.
Thanks BBB! We had great fun and the riding was spectacular!
@@BunnyKingHogs the scenery was stunning. Thank you for sharing your adventures
I've been riding for a long time and have and have done a lot of practicing. It's always makes me laugh watching people learn new skills and makes me remember when I first started. Great video can't wait for the next one 😀 👍
Can always learn new skills, and she needed the confidence boost after the Pan America fall. It was awesome riding
Another great video I have all that to look forward to as I collected my first ever bike on Saturday morning I got a Vulcan s 650 because I'm kind of vertically challenged lol
Have fun! Ride safe and congratulations. Googled the vulcan, nice bike. What colour?
@@BunnyKingHogs I can try send photo on Instagram lol its all black
I’m so proud of my BunnyKing Buddies for hitting 10,000 subscribers on this video!
You guys do such a great job and you have put many smiles on my face and I assume many others over this last year… thank you!!!!
Thank You Pete. Really appreciate your continued support!
@@BunnyKingHogs the the craziness of the 2020 and 2021, you both have provided entertainment and friendship. Prior to the pandemic I very rarely watched UA-cam and I have no other social media other than LinkedIn, so you have also educated me. You put out great content and both Bonnie and I respect the work and creativeness you put into entertaining us. We also respect that you are putting yourselves out to the world… you’ve made long distance friends with us!
Luv you 2!
Another amazing tour of the country side.
As far as your fear of switchbacks, remember that courage isn’t the absence of fear, it is being afraid, but pushing through it and overcoming it, or some shit like that, I butchered it badly.
Keep the videos coming, it’s been roughly 30 years since I’ve been to GB, just wish I could have had the chance to see the parts you all were in when I was there.
Gerry
Good effort Gerry!! I get what you mean. She is more than capable, and the fact she does switch backs every time we ride without a problem, it is a silly fear. Thanks for watching, maybe we get to travel again soon.
Wow! The scenery is just breathtaking.
Thanks Mike, fantastic place to ride
As always, very entertaining. Well done learning new skills!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Great video, 👍.
These ones are my favourites, you two riding around, having a chat , a flirt and a laugh. Brilliant.
Try and watch A Twist Of The Wrist, it's an in depth explanation of riding the right lines around bends and countersteering, I found it really interesting when I was doing my advanced riders course.
We will! Thanks for the suggestion!
Great to see you picking up skills. It gets way easier the more you do it, trust me. Counter steer is key to twisty riding. You're going to love it even more.
Very true! Always good to brush up on new skills and to lose bad habits. Thanks for watching
Congrats on a great class! You've always been counter steering you just didn't know it. I was taught it as push steering. Push on the right hand grip and the bike leans right. That is how bikes turn at speed. Getting used to the technique just takes practice. Also I struggled with turning my head with the turn, but it really works. Where you turn your head is where that bike will go. I rode mini / dirt bikes as a kid which is completely different from street bikes. I didnt get my first street bike till I was a lot older. Dont worry about speed, the better your technique / confidence, the speed will come. Ride your ride I was always told. Great job guys. Be safe.
Thanks Ryan, yeah we learnt to push left to go left, the difference with the pulling on the bar makes the bike jump across which is useful to get out of the way of some nutter drivers, although take some getting used to as its not intuitive. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
A fantastic video, great scenery great ride and you look as beautiful as ever. Carolyne and Brian I look forward to you next video ride .
Thanks 👍 Bushey, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching
Great scenery as usual. Loved the impromptu dance routine. I’ve practiced counter steering one handed since I have a bike with cruise control now and ride with one hand on the bars fairly often. I want it to be second nature like doing it with two hands.
The amount of time she spends pointing at things, she rides one handed most of the time. The pulling is a really good way of evading on coming traffic
I had a bad crash almost 20 years ago. It still affects my riding and confidence. But I’m so so much better than I was right after.
In the States we have some wild roads like the Tail of the Dragon in Tennessee and North Carolina. We have the Pig Trail in Arkansas. They are twisty roads with switchbacks. I ride them fine. Maybe not as fast as some, but still faster than other. Ride your ride and enjoy this great hobby we all share a passion for.
Doesn't sound good! Glad you were ok! Heard of those roads and have seen loads of pictures of people coming off their bikes on those roads
I find it incredible that these two guys are telling you these things about riding, quite a long time after you taking your test, that you would have had to learn in 🇨🇭 *before* taking your driving test, in order to pass it.... wow!
Makes me wanna come to 🏴 to take my test there and see what is actually involved to successfully pass!!
It's one of the toughest in the World, or it used to be. It's basically 3 practical tests and one theory test on a PC. You can't even throw a leg over a 125cc without completing a CBT test.
Uk motorcycle tests:
First you have to complete a compulsory basic training course.
Then:
Module 1
You'll take the module 1 test in an off-road motorcycle manoeuvring area.
The test normally takes about 20 minutes and includes:
wheeling the moped or motorcycle and using the stand
riding a slalom and figure of 8
a slow ride
a U-turn
cornering and a controlled stop
cornering and an emergency stop
cornering and hazard avoidance
For the hazard avoidance and emergency stop exercises you must ride at a minimum speed of:
19 mph on a moped
31 mph on a motorcycle
Theory test needs to be taken before module 2. This is completed in an examination centre
Module 2:
The module 2 test normally takes about 40 minutes and includes:
an eyesight check
‘show me, tell me’ vehicle safety questions
road riding
independent riding
You must bring your module 1 pass certificate to the module 2 test, plus all the documents you had to bring to the module 1 test.
Eyesight check
You’ll have to read a number plate from a distance of:
20 metres for vehicles with a new-style number plate
20.5 metres for vehicles with an old-style number plate
New-style number plates start with 2 letters followed by 2 numbers, for example AB51 ABC.
You’ll fail your riding test if you fail the eyesight check.
‘Show me, tell me’ questions
You’ll be asked 2 vehicle safety questions known as the ‘show me, tell me’ questions. These test that you know how to carry out basic safety checks.
Road riding
You’ll drive in various road and traffic conditions, but not on motorways. You’ll be asked to carry out:
normal stops
an angle start (pulling out from behind a parked vehicle)
a hill start (where possible)
The examiner will give you directions using a radio. They’ll normally follow you on a motorcycle.
Driving test routes are not published, so you can not check them before your test.
Independent riding
You’ll have about 10 minutes of independent riding. This is designed to assess your ability to ride safely while making your own decisions.
You can ask the examiner to repeat the directions if you forget them - you will not fail the test if you go off the route. You can not use sat nav.
@@carolynemoolenschot2907 A very comprehensive driving test procedure, but what you learned in this video does not give us the impression that the cornering and counter press techniques were a part of this test itinery you have kindly given in reply to my comment.
Once again a good and entertaining, plus for some, an informative video. Thanks.
Beautiful scenery up there, a good tip for my next biking hol in '22.
Greets from 🇨🇭, Steve.
Thanks Steve :) They did touch on it but it’s all so overwhelming when learning. The advanced course just picks on things that you may have forgotten or fixed bad habits
Love Switzerland!! Xxx
Loved the video, such a great ride 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching
Good on you both! Bravo Zulu! Your doing great, and as always I love your vlogs. Very down to earth and normal in your own way. Which is actually most entertaining and enjoyable. I always feel like I'm out for a putt with you two. 🤠
Thank you so much Michael, creative editing!! HAHA Most of the madness is left on the editing floor
Awesome guys. So good to see you two grow together as riders. It’s one more facet, you both share.
Thanks Todd, definitely need to get out and ride more. Miss not touring this year
Your rides are so beautiful, different from what we have in the states. The scenery is spectacular. Your roads are incredibly tight with the hedges along side of them. I get nervous watching y’all ride waiting for a car to be on the wrong side of the road. We are taught to push when we counter steer. The guys had a lot of good advice, not sure I would be straying in the other lane on blind turns though. Carolyne stop being so hard on yourself, the more switch backs you ride your confidence will improve. Be safe out there.
not just hedges, mainly walls! I’ll always be hard on myself! I need to be perfect 🤣
LMAO, Brian! The Cockney Roy bit is hysterical! Beautiful editing job! :D :D But you have to admit, Roy's got the moves!
HAHA Roy was Brilliant. It is actually far better when I scrub it in edit, I just don't know how to do it and make it a video, something to learn I guess
you obviously learned plenty and made many of us watchers laugh at the same time
Cheers Andy. It was a brilliant experience and made even better with the roads we could ride. Thanks for watching
Good roads and great footage ,nice to watch .
Thanks Ian xxx
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching
I think you guys would enjoy Jerry paladino videos,he's a riding instructor here in the states that's pretty popular and has loads of great advice,I'm a 62 year old that's been riding since I was around 15,and I've learned lots from his videos, mostly about cornering and U-turns at slow speeds, loving your channel.
Uk motorcycle tests:
First you have to complete a compulsory basic training course.
Then:
Module 1
You'll take the module 1 test in an off-road motorcycle manoeuvring area.
The test normally takes about 20 minutes and includes:
wheeling the moped or motorcycle and using the stand
riding a slalom and figure of 8
a slow ride
a U-turn
cornering and a controlled stop
cornering and an emergency stop
cornering and hazard avoidance
For the hazard avoidance and emergency stop exercises you must ride at a minimum speed of:
19 mph on a moped
31 mph on a motorcycle
Theory test needs to be taken before module 2. This is completed in an examination centre
Module 2:
The module 2 test normally takes about 40 minutes and includes:
an eyesight check
‘show me, tell me’ vehicle safety questions
road riding
independent riding
You must bring your module 1 pass certificate to the module 2 test, plus all the documents you had to bring to the module 1 test.
Eyesight check
You’ll have to read a number plate from a distance of:
20 metres for vehicles with a new-style number plate
20.5 metres for vehicles with an old-style number plate
New-style number plates start with 2 letters followed by 2 numbers, for example AB51 ABC.
You’ll fail your riding test if you fail the eyesight check.
‘Show me, tell me’ questions
You’ll be asked 2 vehicle safety questions known as the ‘show me, tell me’ questions. These test that you know how to carry out basic safety checks.
Road riding
You’ll drive in various road and traffic conditions, but not on motorways. You’ll be asked to carry out:
normal stops
an angle start (pulling out from behind a parked vehicle)
a hill start (where possible)
The examiner will give you directions using a radio. They’ll normally follow you on a motorcycle.
Driving test routes are not published, so you can not check them before your test.
Independent riding
You’ll have about 10 minutes of independent riding. This is designed to assess your ability to ride safely while making your own decisions.
You can ask the examiner to repeat the directions if you forget them - you will not fail the test if you go off the route. You can not use sat nav.
The advanced course is to check that we haven’t picked up bad habit and teach us more options in terms of riding positions
Thanks Wifey!
Hmm I lot of this stuff we did in our basic class. I learned how to counter steer when I first started riding.
Hi Ronald, completely agree. We learnt the counter steering with our test. That was the pushing left to go left etc. Pulling right to jump left was something that was new. We were on the road for 10 hours, I created a vlog, maybe I should have done a more instructional video with more of Gordon and Roys teachings... What you think?
Pushing your limits! What a Blast! Counter steering would be fun with your wide bar’s Caroline! Thanks for sharing your experience, beautiful ride!
Thanks Bonnie. The beach bars are awesome for counter steering, very responsive, not great for tight turns though
I've watched quite of your videos now and I must say your seemed to be enjoying the moment more on this one and the kiss at the beginning confirms that despite a learning experience the joy of riding was back Glad to see
Thanks Peter, we had a great time riding through the Dales and Lake District. The smile may have been the fact that we hadn't ridden for 5 weeks
My god....What an incredibly beautiful country and I live in Canada. Makes me want to move to the Yorkshire Dales
Yes, some stunning rides there.
Great job on learning counter skills it almost look like Roy was trying to dance 🕺when he was showing you how 🤣. But great video, keep up the learning skills and be safe.
Thanks 👍I hope he doesn't mind. I only wish I could have done his dance moves justice! Thanks for watching
@@BunnyKingHogs it was great. You two always keep us entertained. We definitely get honesty, humor, education and never a dull moment. Thus us why you two are AWESOME.
@@jamesslusher3209 Thanks James, appreciate the support
Superb yet again 🙌 great content, great editing and most importantly, great fun 🤩 some of the music you pick is so haunting and relaxing 😌 it just soothes your mind. Please don’t feel any pressure either on the bikes or when creating content, it stops being fun for you and if it stops being fun then why bother. Thanks again and I can’t wait for the next episode. 🙌👍🏍
Thank you so much 😁 that’s so kind of you ❤️
thought counter steering was taught at every motorcycle course.learned that in my safety course back in 1974 in montreal.great vid as always.my gawd your roads are narrow.had to google the highest bar in canada.at 7700 feet its up a ways.ive been in the area but never rode up the mountain to the restaurant/bar/motel at the top.bet the view is awesome.on my list to do next summer now.
We did learn counter steering during our tests, the push left to go left etc. The pulling on the bar to jump the bike across the road to avoid any numptys on the road was something new. We should go visit that pub
Top tips! Every day is a school day.
HA! "Naughty word warning". We expect no less when Carolyne is narrating! :D
😂😂😂😂😂
I actually deleted quote a few scenes, like she says she swears more whilst riding and we rode for 10 hours that day.
Great video as normal. Did a advanced training years ago and it stays with you but counter steering does take time to sink in. Lovely place to ride very jealous.
Thanks Michael! Yeah, it was so much fun :) It was a great confidence boost after my fall xxx
Thanks Michael, appreciate the support. We had a great time, fabulous riding!
Beautiful scenery made me want to on my bike and drive over the pond lol
Do it! You would love it!
please make more cow drone footage it is wonderful!
Sheep...
The sheep were unimpressed with the drone! But I am sure I can find some more
Another excellent riding adventure. Your landscape there reminds me of Wyoming
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching
Loved that, some useful info there. Ride safe
Glad it was helpful!
It may seem odd but it is safer to ride how he is riding 👍if your out in the middle you get to see the numptys a lot sooner giving you more time to react👍👍
Yup! But you have to change your mindset, because you try and stay out the numpty driver way
@@BunnyKingHogs very true I'll never understand why we are not taught the safer way to ride from the beginning 👍but it really does not only make it safer but the flow you ride at will make the ride much easier on you and your confidence 👍tell Brian top editing as always👏👏x
In the opening song it mentioned Appalachians I only mention it myself because I live in the Appalachian mountains myself, I got kicked out of riding school so I’m totally self taught nice video
Oh wow! Very cool, Love Mountains! How do you get kicked out of riding school?
@@BunnyKingHogs dropped the dealership’s bike too hard they said damaged it & got kicked out
She is so funny. Love the accent! Awesome ride!
You are so kind Thanks
Yeah simply greatful Roadride and Places ... Thanks you lot 😊
Most welcome 😊
Are familiar with Abington. It is about 40 miles from London. It would make a nice day trip. When you get there ask for directions to “The Brewry Tap”. After getting to the tap, ask for JD or Matt and you’ll enjoy what most people don’t expect. A B/F extronaque. See ya.
Im intrigued - what is a B/F extronaque? Never been to Abington/Abingdon but we do need to go the south at some point
😂 Love the Cockney Roy mix!, but more importantly what is humbolt mint cake ?
Kendal mint cake! It’s a hard mint sugar block, great for energy
Good question! HAHA Roy was awesome
Another Great ride through some beautiful scenery. 👍👍
You two are full of surprises.😁 So far, with the exception of the Pan Am drop I've loved all of them. 😁
I can't say that I've ever seen instructors use those methods of teaching basic MC riding skills. 🤔😊
At this point I'm reasonably sure that I've seen most if not all of your videos including the Swiss series. You haven't been using Counter Steering!!!?😨
I have to ask. 🤷♂️ Are you familiar with the principles of Counter Balancing? If not then you should check into it.
Respect & Best Wishes 🙋♂️
you didn’t enjoy my face plant? lol I had been counter steering but fighting it …now I’m curving all over the road 🤪
@@BunnyKingHogs ROFL, I loved the face plant about as much as you did. I just got over it a bit faster. 😁
Did Gordon do the great relay on the pan American ?
Think I met him in Waterford southern Ireland,
Nice guy
Possibly, I know he had to go collect the PA from Belgium I think it was after we had our training
Very important to relax when riding. That’s what I told my first wife!
riding bikes right ???
@@BunnyKingHogs of course.
Another interesting blog, from a beautiful place. What’s not to love?
Glad you enjoyed it Thanks Ricoh
You resist everything but temptation.
Don't either of you ever change.
Thank you Alan, that is very kind of you
What com system do you use it sounds superb, loved the silent stalkers. Great vlog thanks Steve
Hi Steve, we use mics plugged into external recording devices and then Brian Syncs them in Editing
But we do use the Sena 20s
The sound is so much better than anything else I've heard even when you are a good distance apart, and so close to 10k happy riding. Steve
🤓 another great vid you two! Just love the countryside there. Counter steering can save your ass. It’s essential to know and do. Thanks for sharing 🤓😊😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
that is is true but it still feels unnatural to pull towards the oncoming obstacle
Doing advanced training is great fun and transforms the whole motorcycle riding experience. Another fab and funny film…well done both. Love the drone footage too. Question Caroline- your stickered helmet… is that the same one you wore when you had the spill and hit your head on the tarmac or a new helmet? I hope it is! Take care both.
ummm it was the same one from the crash…but it was a while ago because of Brian’s slow editing
You might also want to think about taking it one step further and doing ROSPA or IAM. Which is similar to what you have just done just more in depth/more systematic and over a longer period of time. (ROSPA requires recertification every couple of years as well)
I think that is what Carolynes Uncle did and was encouraging us to do. Will look into it, thanks for watching
thoroughly enjoyed!!
much luv u 2!
🤘😘
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks Bender
@@BunnyKingHogs
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Hmm I found it strange that the instructors were teaching a pull of the opposite grip rather than a push of the inside turn grip. In a pull motion you need fingers engaged on the grip, which prevents you from feathering your brake or pulling on your clutch lever if you need to. In the California Motorcycle Safety Course the Counter Steering taught is always a slight push on the inside grip, thus "Counter Steering". Your pushing hand has much more control being closer to your body. The whole concept is centered around the Camber of the wheel. If you've ever stood next to a really heavy bike that you were going put on a center stand you always turn the wheel slightly away from you so that the bike will want to fall toward you (you don't want to be in the position of a 900 lb bike falling away from you cause trust me you won't pull it back after it hits the tipping point). Anyway . . .Geez thats probably too much right? Oh well good stuff all around.
Thanks Cameron, appreciate the comment. We were taught counter steering in our test but pulling on the bar to avoid some numpty really does jump the bike out of the way. Surprisingly quite effective. Thanks for watching
Always push, never pull. First I had ever heard of it and my jaw kinda dropped
@@kassiedreaneai7459 Hi kassie, sorry only just seen this response. Thank you for all the info. I know the left leg in the UK is recommended as it keeps your leg away from incoming traffic, however I prefer the right as the road cambers off to the left and it leans the bike more. Brian tends to follow when we ride , we just make it work and as we are constantly chatting with one another we kind of have an idea of what each other is doing. Appreciate all the tips and advice, thank you!
@@samuraidarryl I guess in context, we do push right to go right when riding and taking bends, what Gordon was saying is if you needed to "jump" the bike quickly in the opposite direction a pull on the bar is really responsive. That is why we tried it cause we didn't believe him
@@BunnyKingHogs ah I did not realise he said it like that. Very interesting
Carolyn there are two types of riders those who just ride and those who ride safe. Riding safe is riding within your trained zone. I never tell my son, be careful. I always tell him be safe. He has a risky job as a police officer. Being careful will get him killed. Being safe keeps him within his trained zone. The more training the more safe you'll be. The more careful you are the more you think and try in yourself not to get hurt. That always leads to mistakes. So ride safe. The safer you are the more trained you are. I hope that has made sense. You're doing great. You were right its like your getting your exam all over again. We love you guys and we don't want a tragedy. So ride safe dear. (OK I will never mention this again.) Always ride your ride. You're a big girl now. You live with your consequences. ❤
Thanks NBT, appreciate you taking the time to comment. We learnt loads from the few days we were there, really useful. Does he ride bikes as a Police officer?
@@BunnyKingHogs Yes. He is in a city so they have zeros (electric enduros). Brian (Bryan, if your momma looked down and said "why?" when you were born. lol inside joke...) you guys are so awesome.
Excited for this!! Lets get the show started!
Thanks Michael, hope you enjoyed it!
You guys are a good team
Very good video and safety always first !!
Always! Although when riding in 40c weather the jackets came off
LOL..........I am in Wisconsin and last time I rode my bike was middle of November and we were at -2 C 🥶 I am just dreaming with warmer weather LOL. Keep posting your videos !!!
A group bike ride is fun sometimes 🏍️. Yep nothing wrong with looking around while yr riding. I do it all the time. Yeah counter steering is weird. I prefer leaning into the corner off the bike slightly as I think it's much easier & safer especially on tight corners. Great winding roads near the end of the vid. Hawes looks like a cool town. Ps you'll get your confidence back soon. Just keep on riding 🏍️👍
thank you! our 1st group ride
I just passed my basic motorcycle safety coarse yesterday. I been riding for 3 and a half years. May look into an advanced class after I practice the basic stuff til it is second nature and natural.
Congrats Ronald. Would highly recommend the Advanced Training, well worth it. Thanks for watching
Finally I understood what I want, a touring (road king) on evo, with carburetor. Other engines, TC 88 and higher are acceptable as an exception, as TC is little bit cheaper then evo, also a softail acceptable in good combination condition and cost.
Have you ever seen 88TC electra glide standard without music?
Cant say I have to be honest, even if I did I probably wouldn't have known. Sorry. Sounds like you know what you want, good luck in finding it
I agree with millinutz. You would not have passed your riding test and gotten your license in the US if you had not already learned these techniques. I am glad however that you took my advice and started getting some proper training. What you really need though is to learn how to do U-turns and figure 8's. comfortable. You do this by practicing in a parking lot and not on the road. You know you are really weak in this area. Please get someone good to teach you these skills. Best Of Luck!!!
Uk motorcycle tests:
First you have to complete a compulsory basic training course.
Then:
Module 1
You'll take the module 1 test in an off-road motorcycle manoeuvring area.
The test normally takes about 20 minutes and includes:
wheeling the moped or motorcycle and using the stand
riding a slalom and figure of 8
a slow ride
a U-turn
cornering and a controlled stop
cornering and an emergency stop
cornering and hazard avoidance
For the hazard avoidance and emergency stop exercises you must ride at a minimum speed of:
19 mph on a moped
31 mph on a motorcycle
Theory test needs to be taken before module 2. This is completed in an examination centre
Module 2:
The module 2 test normally takes about 40 minutes and includes:
an eyesight check
‘show me, tell me’ vehicle safety questions
road riding
independent riding
You must bring your module 1 pass certificate to the module 2 test, plus all the documents you had to bring to the module 1 test.
Eyesight check
You’ll have to read a number plate from a distance of:
20 metres for vehicles with a new-style number plate
20.5 metres for vehicles with an old-style number plate
New-style number plates start with 2 letters followed by 2 numbers, for example AB51 ABC.
You’ll fail your riding test if you fail the eyesight check.
‘Show me, tell me’ questions
You’ll be asked 2 vehicle safety questions known as the ‘show me, tell me’ questions. These test that you know how to carry out basic safety checks.
Road riding
You’ll drive in various road and traffic conditions, but not on motorways. You’ll be asked to carry out:
normal stops
an angle start (pulling out from behind a parked vehicle)
a hill start (where possible)
The examiner will give you directions using a radio. They’ll normally follow you on a motorcycle.
Driving test routes are not published, so you can not check them before your test.
Independent riding
You’ll have about 10 minutes of independent riding. This is designed to assess your ability to ride safely while making your own decisions.
You can ask the examiner to repeat the directions if you forget them - you will not fail the test if you go off the route. You can not use sat nav.
Thanks Stony, appreciate the comment. Obviously I can't put all 13 hours of video into 26 mins of a youtube, there was alot more to the day - I just selected the bits that fitted. The advanced rider training adds something extra to what was already an extensive test and helps to eliminate any bad habits you may have picked up whilst riding. It was very useful. We did do slow maneuvers and we did some tight turns and switch backs which was very useful. Carolyne can do it, just lacks the confidence sometimes. She actually passed her bike test with a higher score /less errors than me. Thanks for watching
@@BunnyKingHogs Thanks for the information. Best of luck to you both
Counter steering is how a bike turns. At anything over maybe 10mph, it's the only way to turn. You did great. I should take some additional training myself. You can never learn enough.
Always good to get training on how to ride safely! It's funny that Carolyne has problems with authority! Always the bad girl! 😂👍🍻
HAHA Always the naughty School girl HAHA. Thanks for watching
Great vid both. I used to counter steer all the time on my fatboy due to its size was easier to ride that way.
I still do it on my sports tourer but not as much but find it helps a lot for avoidance. Ride safe 👍👍
Thanks for sharing! The pushing left to go left and push right to go right we learnt during our test, the pulling right to jump left was useful for numpty avoidance.
Thanks for watching
Yay a longer video 😁 part 2 ✌🏻
Hope you feeling better Paul
finally, I missed the country side for so long...I wanna hold the camera for you, with my love....💞😍🌷
Could always use another camera man to catch my mistakes..
@@BunnyKingHogs I guess as many as you please😍 show me 1 who would refuse it. not the mistakes, the perfection ...🌷
You have to get over to the Isle of Man if you like scenery and bikes!
We were contemplating it but just couldn't make it work this year. Would like to ride the IOMTT route
Counter steering is something all motorcyclists (and cyclists) do subconsciously, because that is the only way to get around a corner above walking speed, but when you do it consciously, you have more control.
you are so right! I feel like I’m fighting the steering bars less now
Three lucky guy.............I wish I was beyond you😉😁🌹💖
We ride too slowly for normal riders to be stuck behind us!
2:52 Ten out of Ten Carolyn, because as Brian can testify, you can be very entertaining.
Thanks Michael. I had 13 hours of footage for one day of entertaining ramblings
@@BunnyKingHogs That's quite a severe cut - 13 hours down to 30 min. I'm glad you're not a hairdresser. Lol.
I lived in England for 2 years in '91 - "93 at RAF Upper Heyford. This Really makes me want to come visit!!! Who you suggest For HD rentals, and about how much would it usually cost to do that? Also, is the US Motorcycle license recognized, or would you have to do something to be allowed to ride?
another very nice video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching Kevin
Love your vlogs guys. Brian did it work?
Not yet! HAHA
I hate switchbacks too. Especially going down hill. It's funny though. I ride a Harley Davidson Dyna Switchback. Lol
Then your bike should be perfect for the switchbacks!!
Yeyyyyy nearly 30 minutes of my favourite UA-cam couple 💑. Brilliant video as always 👏 😀 👌 #cockneyroy 🤣🤣
Yay! Thank you! Cockney Roy was great, he was very funny.
Awesome 👌 I didn't understand was you Swerving or Swearing?
Both! Swerving with the counter steering and swearing because of the counter steering!
Now lane position in England? Well that paints a whole new picture on CAREFUL!!
With no white lines and roads as narrow as a single car, its a challenge
You know what's sad? You can't do the "2 down biker wave" in England, cause a bike on the opposite side won't see it!
It's a nod of the helmet.
We get by, nodding, waving or sticking a leg out
@@BunnyKingHogs Ok thats funny! Throw a leg out!
Isn’t counter steering fun but also a mystery? It eventually becomes natural to you but you were doing great. Don’t get down on yourself about the switchback turns. You took a tough fall and you have to build your confidence up to learn how to do them. You’ll get there I’m sure. Just keep having fun!
It was greta fun. We know the counter steering when you push on the bar, but the pulling was very useful to jump out of the way of Numpty drivers. Thanks for watching Ken
Let’s hear it for Cockney Roy!
Finally you start to get it. You find that now you know so much more about looking thru corners, positioning yourself upon approach to a bend and counter steering etc that you are now focusing on the road and what you are doing that you find commentary hard.
When you are on the road on a motorbike you need to concentrate on riding to stay alive. As you get more experienced you can commentate more.
Do you wonder about what you had been doing and getting away with now that you have more of an understanding of riding?
One important thing they haven’t mentioned (maybe they will as I haven’t got to the end yet) but look where you want to go and you go there. Look where you don’t want to go and you will sadly go there instead.
And with counter steering you will find the push forward is even more responsive if you lean forward with it.
Go watch a GP on tv.
Thanks Daryl, appreciate the support Nd suggestions. Most of the teaching we didnt show. we did 200 miles in one day with plenty of stops and advice.
@@BunnyKingHogs thoroughly enjoy your vids and the scenery is to die for. Australia is vast and very beautiful. It truely is amazing. However there is nothing that I have found that resembles what you guys have there. It’s a desire to one day get to England and ride thru the midlands and Wales etc. That won’t be anytime soon but it will happen.
Enjoy your riding and your wonderful country.
@@samuraidarryl Yeah, having had the bikes have made us appreciate what we have surrounding us. We have a real desire to ride in Australia, maybe we swap one day HAHA
Great video guys I don't a lot of people that needs to watch that lol I never heard of call it counter staring before but yeah work I learned when I was riding dirt bikes... lol apparently a lot of people has never heard in riding in a staggered formation I rode in a Memorial Day ride there was over 1000 bikes there and it would really piss me off when somebody tried to pass me if you have one lane to ride in you are not supposed to try to pass the bike in front of you LOL I had a trike one single Lane to ride in he didn't leave me no room they just about pushed me into the oncoming traffic
Glad you were ok Sidney, can't imagine riding with a 100's of other bikers, 4 has been the most so far. Thanks for watching
I’ll wait for the naughty school girl video!
You will be waiting a long time. Better luck getting the last Europe video out
Might be a tie!!!!
Kinda surprised they didn't holler at ya for ridin on the wrong side of the road.
😂😂😂😂
Riding on the left is right, riding on the right is wrong! So says the Queen! LOL
@@BunnyKingHogs 😂😂😂😂