Actually, the constructor's name (and surname) was Teofil Tarnowski, so TARN are the first 4 letter of his surname. And, Ian, the constructor was not Zygmunt de Lubicz-Bakanowski, but in many (even books) esteemed sources the mistake is replicated. The TARN no 100 was sold (5000 EURO) in A83 Hermann Historica auction in 4th of November 2020.
@@filiofbs Interestingly, the article (in Polish) points out that 3 units had bottomed up over the years - serial no 103, 105 and 107. Seems Ian has shown something out of this lot (108) ;)
@@krockpotbroccoli65 There is an interview video on Forgotten Weapons with some awesome weapon restoration expert and the exact same background. But, I think there is some reason Ian doesn't announce the gun owner name in every fireplace video he makes.
@@ScottKenny1978 www.magnum-x.pl/artykul/ktokolwiekwidzialktokolwiekwie In this Polish article they are saying that only 3 are known to exist, no. 103, 105 and 107 and here in the video he have number 108... and other gun in this article is TE. TAR N. 11 made by st. ogn. Teofil Tarnowski(older artilery sergeant) this submachine pistol came to Poland from London so most likely this N. 11 was this guy next gun after that 10 "TARN" pistols.
@@AndrewAMartin that would actually contain a “novel method of production” Which is tricky to do when the other production facility is already up and running and still beat their production costs... this on the other hand is something you can see on the cover of every gun magazine -the same shit from 30 years ago- maybe in a new color... if you’re lucky We have 7 billion people someone somewhere is in all likelihood inventing something actually new atleast once a decade (though i feel that that level of creativity is currently being focused on getting around regulation with tricks like the binary trigger system or simple bumpstocks... which of course fit the same old stuff that’s been on the market for “30 years” already. Yes i know this gun is old... i’m just offended by it’s absurd lack of creativity
Haha, that was my first thought too !!! Reminds of me after I got my Ruger Mk3 back together the first time: I'm NEVER doing that again !!! It's no biggie now and I've done it lots...but never in a dusty barn using a scarf I pulled off a clothesline somewhere or when I had to break it down in a hurry to see why it misfired...again.
I don't know who this private collector is, but man am I grateful that he lets Ian put his mitts on every cool/rare/obscure/goofy item and present it to us! :D
With that kind of spring compression on the recoil spring I can imagine Ian taking out that dovetailed block and the slide shooting across the room. I laugh, Ian laughs, and the curators grumble loudly.
Gotta love straight blowback guns in standard, “full-power” calibers, eh? Tbf, the Tarn is a bad concept, as a blowback 9x19mm will have: a.) exceptionally *heavy* slide/bolt AND/OR recoil spring that is uncomfortably powerful; & b.) be disproportionately heavy. That refers to “well designed” instances, as well... this adds quite a few drawbacks that are independent of the limitations of the Operating System, lol... not ‘Zip-22 Bad’ but certainly belongs in the same playlist as that chunk’o’shit.
According to the english author Richard Adams "Tharn" is the name of the catatonic state of paralysis that rabbit may enter when very frighten. I am pretty sure this have very little to do with this sorry pistol. ;-)
I've heard the term " going tharn " when an animal is paralyzed by bright lights or an incoming threat . Poachers use bright lights to paralyze animals.
@@greycatturtle7132a UA-cam Channel with Videos about various topics including history whos host has a bias towards anything British. He himself is British of course.
I love these older "large caliber" blowback handguns. I'm amazed that it seemed so difficult for major gun manufacturers to get a reasonable balance of performance out of large blowback pistols. Fast forward a few decades and Hi-points are so common that many "gun people" dismiss them without taking a moment to appreciate the difficulty of making a good blowback pistol in anything more powerful than 9mm Makarov. And to think that Hi-Point does so with very little steel in their design... the mind boggles. Great content regardless, I had never heard of this pistol until today.
What in Tarnation? I just saw that screw slot as part of the sight groove and immediately went "Oh hell no." This is going to be one of THOSE designs, with boneheaded design decisions throughout.
I like that even the unsuccessful designs get a chance here. Even if they are not the cream of the crop, one get some insight on what the designers ideas were. Not with this one specifically, but I think you get the idea. Go, Ian!
I'm guessing the design process started in the dark days of we need anything that is easy to produce and can be made now phase of the war, and was completely too late to take advantage of that phase.
@@gnaskar It may also be a case of the designer fixating on his "wonderful" design, failing to see just how flawed it is. It's quite easy to get stuck in the idea that "I can make this work!" and it can be hard to snap someone out of this delusion. Having the design tested and rejected so soundly was probably a very good thing for the designer even if it hurt so see his dream crushed.
When Ian inserted the image at 6:01 and said it's a Te-Tar it felt so random like was actually watching a YTP remix. Oh man, that would be fun for April fool's day this year!
I remember checking out the copy of "Handguns of the World" at my local library as a kid. It's a great book, has a lot of photos and diagrams, and provides a pretty encyclopedic history of handguns from the most common to really obscure.
Looking at the part lines in the slide and block, I'll bet that the reason they don't want you disassembling it is because the slide doesn't need to be moved at all to remove it... you take the block out, and the spring does three things: 1 - rips the slide out of your grasp 2 - launches the slide off the front of the frame, into the next county 3 - causes the frame to recoil in such a manner that the breech block goes skywards, freed from it's constraints to the slide, and distributes Tarn bits with great vigor.
In polish language "tarn" has no meaning. Maybe those polish gunsmiths were from Tarnów? If you could check it out, that might lay some light on the origins of the name ;)
you are probably right! but the word Tarn is a Viking derived word used in Cumbria for a small lake formed during the Ice age by a Glacier, so the designer may have named his guns after lakes or rivers
This gun looks more in place back in the late 1890s or early 1900s. But not towards the end of a war that created some of the most influential firearms designs.
@@thefez-cat painful to watch, he looked like a total noob, not even Goofy in the old cartoons was *that* terrible. He seems a decent enough chap and he has abilities, so it really drove me mad seeing that absolute flustercuck.
The name is probably from the town Tarnow or the last name Tarnowski(I personally had some family ancestors who had this last name before they settled on something much more American in the 20's)
I don't know why I have such a fascination with old, cheap pistols. Not cheap, modern pistols. Not unsuccesful, but passionately made pistols. I specifically love pistols with unrecognizable names which vaguely resemble 1911s.
A Tarn is a pond or lake situated in hilly country, as in the Peak District (Yorkshire) or the Lake District (Cumbria). Think of a pond in the bowl of a weathered hill top.
Good eye! I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought it was a Browning but I couldn't quite place it. Too bad this one didn't work out, I like the lines.
@@Ni999 I agree, its a shame. But it also makes sense why the Poles would have went for the Browning-esk design. The pistols were very popular in Poland since 1910s, and into the 1930s.
After the Browning 9mm pistol manufactured in Canada during the war this clearly is no competition at all. The Browning P35 worked perfectly, had thirteen rounds, and was used for decades - probably used to this day in places.
The "bolt thrust" of even a catridge as weak as 9x19mm is over 3000 pounds so even an absurdly powerful spring of 50lbs would have negligiable effect on keeping the action closed, the main benefit of a stronger spring is the literal mass of the steel in the spring. Only the inertia of the mass of a slide will keep the action closed, though a shorter barrel can also help as you don't need to keep the action closed as long.
Would love to see a research centre not only replicate these old guns to test out but also make well executed examples just to see if the design itself was any good
Fun fact, there's a prototype Polish SMG in 7.62 Tokarev, that was basically a simplified PPS-43, named the 'AJ-56', meaning 'Automat Jurka 1956', which is really weird considering the classification for Polish SMGs is 'PM', and Automatic rifles weren't really given a designation as such, mainly just being called 'AK', or 'Kałach'.
Actually, the constructor's name (and surname) was Teofil Tarnowski, so TARN are the first 4 letter of his surname. And, Ian, the constructor was not Zygmunt de Lubicz-Bakanowski, but in many (even books) esteemed sources the mistake is replicated. The TARN no 100 was sold (5000 EURO) in A83 Hermann Historica auction in 4th of November 2020.
Idk if this was the gun to put your name on...
@@termitreter6545 maybe that's why he only did the first 4 letters?
@@termitreter6545I wonder how many time Browning got things wrong before he got it right on all of his designs?
Yeah, www.magnum-x.pl/artykul/ktokolwiekwidzialktokolwiekwie there's also the Te. Tar. N. 11---> Teofil Tarnowski No.11
@@filiofbs Interestingly, the article (in Polish) points out that 3 units had bottomed up over the years - serial no 103, 105 and 107. Seems Ian has shown something out of this lot (108) ;)
Ian: “They only made about 10 of these.”
Me: *sees fireplace in background* … “yeah, that checks out”
fireplaceguy certainly have an impressive collection of absurdly rare pistols
Fireplace guy probably has 8 of them, too...
@@krockpotbroccoli65 There is an interview video on Forgotten Weapons with some awesome weapon restoration expert and the exact same background. But, I think there is some reason Ian doesn't announce the gun owner name in every fireplace video he makes.
@@ScottKenny1978 www.magnum-x.pl/artykul/ktokolwiekwidzialktokolwiekwie
In this Polish article they are saying that only 3 are known to exist, no. 103, 105 and 107 and here in the video he have number 108... and other gun in this article is TE. TAR N. 11 made by st. ogn. Teofil Tarnowski(older artilery sergeant) this submachine pistol came to Poland from London so most likely this N. 11 was this guy next gun after that 10 "TARN" pistols.
“It’s not about functionality, it’s about sending the message”
And the message is "fall into water with this sumo wrestler, it'll drag you to the bottom and drown you"
...it's about ..."tarnation".....
It’s about NO NOVEL FEATURES IN THE DESIGN 4:31
I.e. it’s about some turd too stupid to invent something trying to invent something
@@jerkfudgewater147 Sometimes, it's not about novel new features, sometimes it's about making it cheaper and/or faster...
@@AndrewAMartin that would actually contain a “novel method of production”
Which is tricky to do when the other production facility is already up and running and still beat their production costs... this on the other hand is something you can see on the cover of every gun magazine -the same shit from 30 years ago- maybe in a new color... if you’re lucky
We have 7 billion people someone somewhere is in all likelihood inventing something actually new atleast once a decade (though i feel that that level of creativity is currently being focused on getting around regulation with tricks like the binary trigger system or simple bumpstocks... which of course fit the same old stuff that’s been on the market for “30 years” already. Yes i know this gun is old... i’m just offended by it’s absurd lack of creativity
It stands for “Tarnation.” As in, “what in Tarnation made you think we’d be interested in adopting this piece of junk?”
you beat me to it! Tarn it!
Nice to know I'm not the only one who thought this.
I say , I say, I say .....
I read that in the voice of *Foghorn Leghorn.* 😊
It comes from designers surname, Teofil Tarnowski, Ian's source mixed up him with another guy
A "tarn" is a type of glacial lake, way up in the mountains. You know, kinda like where you want to throw the darn thing.
More like a mixed Colt 1911 and Astra 600 (which is also straight blowback)
Or they were suggesting that a watery maid would be handing them out.
@@longdarkrideatnight Did you mean perhaps "...some soggy bint..."? I thought that was limited to future autocrats... ;-)
That's clever. On par with Carl's observation of that Pico pistol belonging in dirt!
In this more enlightened age watery tarts can feel free to share their arms with soldiers and kings alike.
"The whole gun is really quite dense..." Yup, in both senses of the word.
The side-by-side makes it look like someone tried to re-create the 1911 for a Nintendo 64 game.
"Roughly doubles as a safety.." one of Gun Jesus's greatest understatements.
When Gun Jesus refuses to take down a firearm you know it is blasphemous
When Gun Jesus..... rotflmao 😎
Haha, that was my first thought too !!!
Reminds of me after I got my Ruger Mk3 back together the first time: I'm NEVER doing that again !!!
It's no biggie now and I've done it lots...but never in a dusty barn using a scarf I pulled off a clothesline somewhere or when I had to break it down in a hurry to see why it misfired...again.
That pistol looks like it was designed for a video game by someone who knew nothing about pistols.
@@peterresetz1960 or a company that made practice guns...
I don't know who this private collector is, but man am I grateful that he lets Ian put his mitts on every cool/rare/obscure/goofy item and present it to us! :D
"This is a straight blowback and has a heavy slide."
So essentially a WW2 Hi-Point?
That's what I thought, its a steel hi point, single stack, heavy, blowback, striker fired, shit disassembly, shit handling.
But sadly still better....
Its pretty much a copy of the Astra 400
Hi-Points are shit on for no reason. They are cheap, reliable, and good shots.
1940’s-era Yeet Cannon!
“Nambu 1911 isn’t real, it can’t hurt you”
Nambu 1911:
The name "Nambu-Eleven" kinda rolls off the tongue.
🤣🤣🤣
✓ Difficult to disassemble
✓ Blowback operation using disadvantageously powerful cartridge
✓ Not much to look at
Yep it's a 1940's Hi-Point
With that kind of spring compression on the recoil spring I can imagine Ian taking out that dovetailed block and the slide shooting across the room.
I laugh, Ian laughs, and the curators grumble loudly.
They'd grumble only if they keep out of the trajectory though.
Gotta love straight blowback guns in standard, “full-power” calibers, eh?
Tbf, the Tarn is a bad concept, as a blowback 9x19mm will have: a.) exceptionally *heavy* slide/bolt AND/OR recoil spring that is uncomfortably powerful; & b.) be disproportionately heavy. That refers to “well designed” instances, as well... this adds quite a few drawbacks that are independent of the limitations of the Operating System, lol... not ‘Zip-22 Bad’ but certainly belongs in the same playlist as that chunk’o’shit.
“Darn it, we made a bad weapon...but in the future, a long hair hippie will talk about it...”
That is blasphemy, dont you ever insult gun jesus like that. I sincerely hope somebody slaps you with a dueling glove good sir.
That...
*Loads Lebel*
Sounds...
*Mounts bayonet*
Like...
*Shoulders weapon*
BLASPHEMY!!!
*OPENS FIRE*
@@tannercrooks3100 im not sure i think id rather cop 4x 8mm lebel centremass than a tri bayonet to the guts.
At 2:53, Tarn next to a nice 1911, you see what my old man meant by “big American.” Stunning visual, Ian. Thanks for including it!
I like how the British report is roasting the gun politely
It's like a Ruby pistol and a M1911 had a one night stand
1911: You suck and you're tiny.
Ruby: You're ugly and you suck!
*5 drinks later*
1911: you *hic* wanna get outta here?
Ruby: *giggles* sure.
You could say the gun, after its unsuccessful test it was...
forgottarn
9.5 9.8 9.4 9.9
@@jameschristiansson3137 i tried number pad but still can't tell what your saying.
@@DAI.H4RD I'm picturing a table of judges holding up numbers.
@@SoWhat1221 That's it.
Ian's "The bad" playlist: this will make a fine addition to my collection
According to the english author Richard Adams "Tharn" is the name of the catatonic state of paralysis that rabbit may enter when very frighten. I am pretty sure this have very little to do with this sorry pistol. ;-)
An allegory for 2020 ?
I've heard the term " going tharn " when an animal is paralyzed by bright lights or an incoming threat . Poachers use bright lights to paralyze animals.
Man, can't wait to see Lindybeige desperately try to defend this for being british.
Most if not all of the best weapons made in Britain had a foreign influence.
Who is lindybeige
@greycatturtle7132 hahaha funny guy!
@@roryhennessey1983 ???
@@greycatturtle7132a UA-cam Channel with Videos about various topics including history whos host has a bias towards anything British. He himself is British of course.
Looks like the Elbonian SpecOps just got a new Offensive pistol!
The unholy combination of Glock and Nambu...
I was thinking Nambu and 1911 but who cares. It looks like a unholy offspring anyway
Glambull
I personally think that it's more like Hi-Point x 1911.
Looks a lot like a FN 1922
@@awittyusernamepleaselaugh7481 Glombu
It looks like a Tokarev got a 1911 drunk and stumbled out behind the pub...
My first thought was it's resemblance to a Tokarev.
@@VosperCDN Except the Tokarev is an actually good gun.
More like Stechkin
Thats an insult to both the 1911 and the tt-33
This is what happen if Tokarev doesn't drink Vodka. 😀😀😀
I love these older "large caliber" blowback handguns. I'm amazed that it seemed so difficult for major gun manufacturers to get a reasonable balance of performance out of large blowback pistols.
Fast forward a few decades and Hi-points are so common that many "gun people" dismiss them without taking a moment to appreciate the difficulty of making a good blowback pistol in anything more powerful than 9mm Makarov. And to think that Hi-Point does so with very little steel in their design... the mind boggles.
Great content regardless, I had never heard of this pistol until today.
somewhere around the world...
"dad, can we get Remington 51?"
"no, we have Remington 51 at home"
Remington 51 at home:
What in Tarnation? I just saw that screw slot as part of the sight groove and immediately went "Oh hell no." This is going to be one of THOSE designs, with boneheaded design decisions throughout.
Agree
Love your work Ian! Thanks for taking the obscure to light.
Yes, and some times dispell the demons!!
I like that even the unsuccessful designs get a chance here. Even if they are not the cream of the crop, one get some insight on what the designers ideas were. Not with this one specifically, but I think you get the idea. Go, Ian!
This really Tarnished the reputation of British arms production...
Ooooh I see what you did there....
The design needed more Polish.
You can let yourself out for that one...
Take my up-vote, you monster!
Especially with that atroughcious sight
While I love learning about obscure, rare, and especially unusual designs; with this one, I’m left wondering, “Why?”, tbh
I'm guessing the design process started in the dark days of we need anything that is easy to produce and can be made now phase of the war, and was completely too late to take advantage of that phase.
@@gnaskar It may also be a case of the designer fixating on his "wonderful" design, failing to see just how flawed it is. It's quite easy to get stuck in the idea that "I can make this work!" and it can be hard to snap someone out of this delusion. Having the design tested and rejected so soundly was probably a very good thing for the designer even if it hurt so see his dream crushed.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 I think you’re close to the mark, this one has quite a few hallmarks of an obsessed designer. Or a ‘Committee Design’, perhaps
9mm P, heavy spring, heavy slide, single stack mag, don't want to dismantle it: It's the prototype Hi-Point!!
Magazines don't drop freely .
Official motion to change the word "darn" to "tarn" as in GOSH TARN IT
Every time you see the magic fireplace in the background, you know you're in for a treat.
Some respect to JMB and Colt for making such an aesthetically pleasing pistol, especially next to this thing.
The magic fireplace keeps delivering ;)
@@nuclearmedicineman6270 he certainly delivers all the weird and wacky prototypes there!
"Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it."
I like your thinking.
In Northern England a tarn is another name for a lake, often in mountainous terrain
Ha,id forgotten that..
Been away from home too long :/
When Ian inserted the image at 6:01 and said it's a Te-Tar it felt so random like was actually watching a YTP remix. Oh man, that would be fun for April fool's day this year!
This looks like somebody tried to copy the 1911 design but only using their memory.
..while drunk
Look at the fn1922 and then you’ll know where tarn was copied from
And had no foreknowledge of *how* a 1911 functions, mechanically speaking.
Somebody described a 1911 over the phone
Errr...get back, in, there...BONG...
TARN IT my recoil spring is stuck to the ceiling again!
It’s called a “Tarn” because the best thing to do with it if you’re issued one, is to drop it into a lake. 😶
I remember checking out the copy of "Handguns of the World" at my local library as a kid. It's a great book, has a lot of photos and diagrams, and provides a pretty encyclopedic history of handguns from the most common to really obscure.
I saw Tarn and thought that there was a Dwarf Fortress update, instead I got a Forgotten Weapons video!
Gun Jesus cancels Review Gun: Horrified.
Looking at the part lines in the slide and block, I'll bet that the reason they don't want you disassembling it is because the slide doesn't need to be moved at all to remove it... you take the block out, and the spring does three things:
1 - rips the slide out of your grasp
2 - launches the slide off the front of the frame, into the next county
3 - causes the frame to recoil in such a manner that the breech block goes skywards, freed from it's constraints to the slide, and distributes Tarn bits with great vigor.
Is this secretly the origin of "what in tarnation?" ? :P
In polish language "tarn" has no meaning. Maybe those polish gunsmiths were from Tarnów? If you could check it out, that might lay some light on the origins of the name ;)
Yeah i think it might be "Tarnów", at 1:46 you can see dot at the end of the "Tarn" which could mean it's short for "Tarnów"
As an Englishman
Thank you!
you are probably right! but the word Tarn is a Viking derived word used in Cumbria for a small lake formed during the Ice age by a Glacier, so the designer may have named his guns after lakes or rivers
in german, tarn means something like "conceal" or "hide/hidden"
@@andreww2098 ngl, tarns aren’t particularly inspiring
TARN:
Terrible
Autoloading
Rooty tooty point
'N shooty
And there Flys the slide of
"Damn, this gun is terrible, it's surely going to tarnish our brand name, what shall we call it?"
I wouldn't call the former British Empire a "brand" lol
"So, I think you can see why the British gave up on this pistol..."
Ian - have you learnt *nothing* about British Defence Procurement? :D
You referring to the L-85? Because the L-85 is good.
I heard Cobray tried to license the design...
How did they manage to make a blowback operated pistol hard to disassemble?
That's a feat in itself, in 1945 no less.
When making guns stupidly cheap backfires
Not literally I hope
@@TheHacknor it probably did
*Zip 22 flashbacks*
This gun looks more in place back in the late 1890s or early 1900s. But not towards the end of a war that created some of the most influential firearms designs.
I and my son always appreciate your content. At almost 20, he is a bit old school firearm buff. He would rather shoot my SKS over my AR15.
He has good taste!
Having never heard of this, my first thought was "What in tarnation is that?"
What in *Tarn* ation
Sorry had to say it
>walks into the pitch room
"Look, I get it, you're tired of the 1911..."
Looks like a badly drawn 1911
The side by side comparison to the 1911 had serious 'You vs the service pistol she tell you not to worry about' vibes.
How did they find their way to America? "It's a gun, an American will want it."
You know it's bad when Ian won't take it apart...
If it was the 8 bit guy he would have dremelled the heck out of it to disassemble.
"I have no idea what this thing is and it may be unique." ~promptly blows it up with a paperclip~
@@thefez-cat it seemed appropriate at the time.
@@den2k885 One of the most frustrating videos I think I've ever watched!
@@thefez-cat painful to watch, he looked like a total noob, not even Goofy in the old cartoons was *that* terrible. He seems a decent enough chap and he has abilities, so it really drove me mad seeing that absolute flustercuck.
Indeed, haha, and that one was also kida prototype. Looks like we're subscribed to the same channels ;)
Love seeing stuff like this. More please.
A tarn is a small lake formed by a glacier- it's a common northern English word. Dunno if that's where the gun got its name though
Full explanation, for the curious:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarn_(lake)
Ah yes the legendary chimney. We want a tour of the owner's collection.
The name is probably from the town Tarnow or the last name Tarnowski(I personally had some family ancestors who had this last name before they settled on something much more American in the 20's)
I promise you the first draft of the testing report was a single line:
"It's a just a bit crap all round."
I don't know why I have such a fascination with old, cheap pistols. Not cheap, modern pistols. Not unsuccesful, but passionately made pistols. I specifically love pistols with unrecognizable names which vaguely resemble 1911s.
You do you, no kink shaming here :D
Jed Clampett said it best. "What in tarnation"
Looks like Astra, and FN Browning or Mauser had an illegitimate love child.
Bakanowsky: Hey adopt my new pistol!
British army: Thanks, but no thanks.
Bakanowsky: Aw tarn...
Omega lol 🤣🤣🤣
As a Frenchman coming from the great southern France department of Tarn (Occitanie), I am slightly offended.
You could say your reputation was tarnished
That's OK, you're offended by something (partly) British, which is normal. 😁
As a German coming from Germany, i'm offended that you referred to France as France and not Reichsprotektorat Frankreich.
@@klutz1907 just wait until you get to Lorraine
I'm offended that GJ keeps referring to that thing as British, just because it was made , but rightfully rejected, here.🙄
Ian gets the Tarn pistol "tarn" apart. That is "tarn" cool!
The front has a very familiar look to it.
A Tarn is a pond or lake situated in hilly country, as in the Peak District (Yorkshire) or the Lake District (Cumbria). Think of a pond in the bowl of a weathered hill top.
I did a project on Malam Tarn as part of one of my degrees
So, basically like a caldera but smaller and on a hill in terms of appearance?
@@Saturnus_Ouranos similar in appearance but not formed by volcanic activity
@@neilmorrison7356 this is what I meant
it looks like a 1940s hi point.
You know its bad when Ian doesn't disassemble it.
I would like to point out that I looks a lot like a Browning M1922
Good eye! I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought it was a Browning but I couldn't quite place it.
Too bad this one didn't work out, I like the lines.
@@Ni999 I agree, its a shame. But it also makes sense why the Poles would have went for the Browning-esk design. The pistols were very popular in Poland since 1910s, and into the 1930s.
@@lordDenis16 With the popularity of the FN 1910, I'd have made the same decision, or would have been easily influenced by it, same result either way.
After the Browning 9mm pistol manufactured in Canada during the war this clearly is no competition at all. The Browning P35 worked perfectly, had thirteen rounds, and was used for decades - probably used to this day in places.
1:50 there's a river called "Tarn" in France but I doubt it has any link to it but who knows maybe it's related
they probably meant something more of "what in tarnation"
Insurgent gun. The thinness for concealment.
Im surprised i can see the "Tarn" pistol
It's both a visibly terrible and a terribly visible pistol!
The "bolt thrust" of even a catridge as weak as 9x19mm is over 3000 pounds so even an absurdly powerful spring of 50lbs would have negligiable effect on keeping the action closed, the main benefit of a stronger spring is the literal mass of the steel in the spring.
Only the inertia of the mass of a slide will keep the action closed, though a shorter barrel can also help as you don't need to keep the action closed as long.
Guess that gun was tarnished fresh off the line eh?
You beat me to it.
I hate you for making laugh at that pun.
Would love to see a research centre not only replicate these old guns to test out but also make well executed examples just to see if the design itself was any good
You could say the manufacturer's image was TARNished by this model...😏
Another great video from Forgotten Fireplaces -- I mean Weapons!
What in Tarnation?
Most prominent household items on the internet.
1) Fireplace Guys fireplace
2) Rick's black couch
The full-size pistol "Tarn". Along with the smaller "Flecktarn" and the slim version "Strichtarn".
Also, the "Tarnnetz" Version, wich leaves out every bit of material which isn't needed for function.
Love your videos! Very educational theirs nothing out their quite like your channel
Why the Elbonians never issued these is beyond me.
Didn't meet their QA!
Tarn sounds like what the most pious person would say to avoid the word darn
"I'm calling it the Tarn"
"Why?"
"Because it sounds neat!"
Yarn short for tarnish which is what it does too my name
Therapist: Glock Makarov 1911 thing isn't real it can't hurt you.
Glock Makarov 1911 thing:
Did these guys go on to work at Hi-Point?
Tarn stands for "What in Tarnation am I shooting?!“
When you can't afford M1911 so you make one for low budget
Fun fact, there's a prototype Polish SMG in 7.62 Tokarev, that was basically a simplified PPS-43, named the 'AJ-56', meaning 'Automat Jurka 1956', which is really weird considering the classification for Polish SMGs is 'PM', and Automatic rifles weren't really given a designation as such, mainly just being called 'AK', or 'Kałach'.