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  • Ukraine's SBU security service and police raided a 1,000-year-old Orthodox Christian monastery in Kyiv early on Tuesday as part of operations to counter suspected "subversive activities by Russian special services", the SBU said.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 533

  • @tomtommyl805
    @tomtommyl805 Рік тому +147

    I'm surprised they didn't do that earlier. It was obvious.

    • @oleksander
      @oleksander Рік тому +10

      The Russian Church had a huge impact on the MPs and the oligarchs.

    • @Serendip98
      @Serendip98 Рік тому +2

      In France, we are so smart that we allowed Putler to build a brand new "Orthodox Church" in the middle of Paris. Everybody knows it is a nest of spies, just like the so-called Russian Cultural Center.

    • @bryandimery6509
      @bryandimery6509 Рік тому

      Its great! Western values of oppression and religious persecution! Yay freedumb

    • @terintiaflavius3349
      @terintiaflavius3349 Рік тому +1

      Those songs have been sung for centuries!

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ Рік тому +121

    The Russian Orthodox Church couldn't have gotten through a century of Soviet atheism without being 'captured', so to speak, by the state.

    • @timmurphy5541
      @timmurphy5541 Рік тому +18

      Of course it's an instrument of power - people like Putin don't leave such things alone.

    • @carlosdesousa6712
      @carlosdesousa6712 Рік тому +3

      Well said 👏

    • @brucemcnee4818
      @brucemcnee4818 Рік тому +6

      Not captured, more like purged and refined

    • @sophk8457
      @sophk8457 Рік тому +1

      Hmmm that’s not true. The services haven’t changed and that’s what really matters.

    • @bellbookcandle3051
      @bellbookcandle3051 Рік тому +3

      Well, Kyrill has been a willing ally. Can only imagine what that guy's worth!?

  • @AB1Vampire
    @AB1Vampire Рік тому +192

    Would not be the first time a church betrayed the People for power & money.

    • @elpantheon4309
      @elpantheon4309 Рік тому +1

      not really the prayer in question is a classic of both russian and ukrainian orthodox church

    • @III-bo6zr
      @III-bo6zr Рік тому +6

      Or maybe the Orthodox chuch knowns who is in the wrong due to Orthodoxy having many saints and monks prophecising about WW3 =).

    • @fichtellukas5572
      @fichtellukas5572 Рік тому +3

      @@III-bo6zr Self fulfilling prophecy, ez.

    • @johnbox271
      @johnbox271 Рік тому +9

      "Would not be the first time a church betrayed the People for power & money." Too true.

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому

      Classic comment. Yes, power and wealth have been the DOMINATING traits of that organization, and the church of pagan Rome ( the RICHEST establishment in the world) ; masquerading as Christians. Sick, very sick.

  • @smartguy360
    @smartguy360 Рік тому +73

    A den of spies, this was the right move

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому

      Very kind comment, Bradley, I would add 'den of vipers' ; a quote from Jesus. Consider this, in Jesus' three-year ministry he NEVER reviled anyone, except the priests. Like the immensely wealthy church of pagan Rome, power and wealth are the dominating traits, disguised by what they wear and say to fool billions of people. Very sad, actually.

    • @micixduda
      @micixduda Рік тому

      @@geraldhagen2989 church of pagan Rome? Do you even know why they killed him?
      He was rioting and disturbing temple's economy!
      Learn and obey your masters or die, is a clear message for all of us.
      PS: Do i need to tell you it wasn't Roman temple?

    • @samuelcrozier3661
      @samuelcrozier3661 Рік тому +1

      Do you even read church history?

    • @xAzureXHazex
      @xAzureXHazex Рік тому +1

      ​@@samuelcrozier3661 probably not 😂

  • @snapdragon6601
    @snapdragon6601 Рік тому +149

    The Russian Orthodox Church has also been making suspicious land purchases in Norway lately near NATO bases. The same bases where they've recently arrested people linked to Russia flying drones.

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n Рік тому +34

      Pretty much, Russia is playing a hybrid warfare, just not solely via cyberwars.

    • @ehisgeorge414
      @ehisgeorge414 Рік тому +9

      Is that enough reasons to harass and threaten priests and worshippers in Ukraine??

    • @user-tm4js4zz9m
      @user-tm4js4zz9m Рік тому +1

      and Putin also wants to take over the whole world, you have to believe in it. in the end, all the false news is talking about this, oh, I meant reliable news. Putin told us, the Russians, in confidence. But I'm asking you not to tell anyone. I wrote classified information.

    • @OryxAU
      @OryxAU Рік тому +3

      @@ehisgeorge414 When Russia weaponizes every cultural tool it has at its disposal, yes. This isn't a fictional scenario, the war is very real and the Orthodox church has made no secret of its intent, they proudly announce it.

    • @mr.meatsoup5639
      @mr.meatsoup5639 Рік тому +31

      @@ehisgeorge414 no one said priests were harrassed and threatened, you just made it up. It was just a raid on the location to see if there was any collaboration evidence. I understand if ruskies think raid = threatening, in russia everyone there would prolly be sent to the gulag simply for being at the premises.

  • @geoffsimpkins7650
    @geoffsimpkins7650 Рік тому +107

    I have been to the Lavra three times. One of the times was during the split from the Russian Orthodox Church. Some of the Ukrainians, friends of mine, didn’t take the Ukrainian Orthodox Church seriously at the time, thought the split was dumb. Their views have changed 180 degrees since, and now even try to not speak Russian, which was their at home native language. Imagine that giant shift, to no longer worship in the same sect or speak your language solely because you now despise the country of control.

    • @jimmygray4072
      @jimmygray4072 Рік тому +2

      A bit like the World you live in Today No?

    • @mimisor66
      @mimisor66 Рік тому +17

      One cannot gain full independence from Moscow if their church is still subordinate to Russian Patriarchate. This is how Orthodoxy works.

    • @lcplapiata5501
      @lcplapiata5501 Рік тому +1

      That's like the Anglican Jews in yankland.

    • @asicdathens
      @asicdathens Рік тому +1

      @@mimisor66 Not any more. Besides who wants a Patriarch who was KGB/FSB spy? The ruZZian priests are "blessing" the cannons that are sent to kill Ukrainians and you seriously believe that the Ukrainians want to have any relationship with these monsters? If I were Ukrainian I would have blown that place. It is a nest for spies and covert rushist subversionists. I am from Greece and I know the unholy affection the Greek church shows to the russkie satanlovers

    • @angies.7689
      @angies.7689 Рік тому +10

      Guess what? For most of them it WAS NOT their native language, they had it imposed on them because Ukrainian language was forbidden in school and in the workplace. Many had their names Russified so to destroy their actual native culture. This happened for generations during USSR and the effect carried on after. Sometimes you need to look deeper into these things before drawing conclusions.

  • @markclift2952
    @markclift2952 Рік тому +62

    It’s not the seat of Ukrainian orthodoxy it’s actually Russian orthodoxy and patriarch of moscow

    • @bierbauch529
      @bierbauch529 Рік тому +11

      The Monasteries of Ukraine are older than Moscow

    • @milansavic2803
      @milansavic2803 Рік тому +3

      @@bierbauch529 Jerusaleme is older then Rome, but that doesn't mean Rome is not a christian.

    • @milansavic2803
      @milansavic2803 Рік тому +1

      @@bierbauch529 It started there, then spread out to the east

    • @far_centrist
      @far_centrist Рік тому +5

      @@milansavic2803 rome is a city, it is older than the time the roman captured Jerusalem. Your analogy makes no sense.

    • @far_centrist
      @far_centrist Рік тому +7

      @@bierbauch529 true, the orthodoxy has been there since the day of byzantine collapse. Back then the seat of power of the kingdom of Rus was still in Kiev. Dude had no idea what he was talking about

  • @oldfartjohnson6354
    @oldfartjohnson6354 Рік тому +69

    Religion and politics are never a good combination.

    • @SainyaHokage
      @SainyaHokage Рік тому +4

      Kirill patriarch : "I beg to differ..."

    • @Edzhjus
      @Edzhjus Рік тому

      Actual Allmighty would not use forcetrickery. 🤣😂

  • @georgedanilov8898
    @georgedanilov8898 Рік тому +15

    Long time center of FSB run activities in Kyiv
    It’s incomprehensible WHY did this take so long to have them raided
    8 years too late

  • @icorcka76
    @icorcka76 Рік тому +98

    That's not about freedom of religion when
    A) there are multiple espionage evidence and the organization has a lot of undercover agents
    B) no one is oppressing the religious group. There are many orthodox organization that live peacefully with others
    So I think Moscow patriarchy can follow russian warship

    • @RokSzczura
      @RokSzczura Рік тому +3

      Evidence such as:

    • @icorcka76
      @icorcka76 Рік тому +1

      @@RokSzczura I've been attending russian churches in Ukraine and heard a lot of priests preaching about "holly mother russia"(not the Rus there is a different word in russian), even after the war broke out. Plus there were cases of priests taking pictures of critical infrastructure and military outposts in cities and than sending them into russian agencies. Moreover during this SBU "raid" they found a lot of propaganda materials about "Novorossia" and how Ukraine should be a part of Russia.
      Oh, and btw thanks for asking. It's important not to accuse someone for no reason.

    • @rschiwal
      @rschiwal Рік тому +1

      They oppress their Russian minority. It's understandable, considering the tens of millions of deaths Russia has caused them, but it's still oppression.

    • @RokSzczura
      @RokSzczura Рік тому +1

      @@rschiwal Source for these tens of millions?

    • @dchappy6985
      @dchappy6985 Рік тому

      @@RokSzczura Bots can show evidence. Lol

  • @johnpryce2011
    @johnpryce2011 Рік тому +41

    One has to follow up on these Intel reports right or wrong .

    • @kiithkadeshi1576
      @kiithkadeshi1576 Рік тому

      Hunter biden laptop. Follow up on that. Zelensky is hitler 2.0

    • @dannyt1705
      @dannyt1705 Рік тому

      You would be a good Gestapo soldier

    • @dominushydra
      @dominushydra Рік тому +2

      @@dannyt1705 if there is nothing to hide then why worry? 😏

    • @sayitasitis100
      @sayitasitis100 Рік тому +1

      They are Ukrainians not Russians, even more alienation

    • @dragani2330
      @dragani2330 Рік тому +2

      @@dannyt1705 FSB, Gestapo, all the same these days.

  • @melmatos5338
    @melmatos5338 Рік тому +11

    Send to Russia

  • @SerhiyVoytenko
    @SerhiyVoytenko Рік тому +3

    Correction. It's not Ukrainian Orthodox Church. It's Moscow Orthodox Church in Ukraine. Feel the difference.

  • @timmanning5357
    @timmanning5357 Рік тому +5

    The leader of the Russian Orthodox Church is an ex KGB agent so it wouldn't surprise me if some dirty work is going on.

  • @marysavinova9311
    @marysavinova9311 Рік тому +19

    Well done!

  • @andrewign5806
    @andrewign5806 Рік тому +31

    ❤❤❤ great work

  • @oleksander
    @oleksander Рік тому +84

    It's not a Ukrainian church, it's part of the Russian orthodox church. We have a canonical orthodox church and it's not this one.

    • @aeye9772
      @aeye9772 Рік тому +8

      Except you don't.

    • @louisriverin2295
      @louisriverin2295 Рік тому +3

      They split in may: The Council of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church said that it disagreed with the position that Patriarch Kirill I, the leader of the Moscow Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church, had taken on the war, according to a statement posted on the council's Facebook page on Friday.

    • @johnkrieg9368
      @johnkrieg9368 Рік тому +6

      @@aeye9772 Their so called "church" is not even recognized by the overwhelming majority of the Orthodox world

    • @slavaukraini3260
      @slavaukraini3260 Рік тому +2

      Ukraine needs to cleanse itself of the ROC.

    • @aeye9772
      @aeye9772 Рік тому +2

      @@johnkrieg9368 I know and never heard of its canonization.

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 Рік тому +5

    I can believe this. A leopard doesn't change its spots when they have been the same colour for the best part of a thousand years.

  • @kimeagling8324
    @kimeagling8324 Рік тому +7

    It’s a bit hard to ignore the video

    • @Celticowl4136
      @Celticowl4136 Рік тому +2

      Isn't this what church goers do in churches all over the world? Singing hymns is very suspicious 😂

    • @lcfflc3887
      @lcfflc3887 Рік тому

      @@Celticowl4136 yes this is pure paranoia

  • @carlosdesousa6712
    @carlosdesousa6712 Рік тому +4

    Clergy should steer clear if politics OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of being partisan and worse even, by committing treason

    • @lcfflc3887
      @lcfflc3887 Рік тому

      and how do you know those accusations are real? are you a member of that church?

  • @bcluett1697
    @bcluett1697 Рік тому +13

    I'm inclined to believe that lady who said it's a song of old. You can have traitors in all places even churches, France saw that in WW2 but I hope it's just a precaution and a false alarm.

    • @LilyFisher4
      @LilyFisher4 Рік тому

      I would to see some evidence and perhaps due process ( a fair trial) before anyone is evicted and their assets stolen. Does not seem very democratic to me.
      I grew up in Northern Ireland during some of the most violent times in its history. The British government, British Army and police committed numerous horrific crimes against the Irish Catholic community. As well as laws to oppress and blatant religious discrimination in the work force. Despite the oppression and brutal violence . Our churches were never targeted for persecuted and all their assets stolen and definitely not without due process .

  • @ksmith2852
    @ksmith2852 Рік тому +9

    Churches should stay out of politics. The head of the Church has already said they support Russia. They were fair game.

  • @amardave84
    @amardave84 Рік тому +6

    I thought Ukraine was a democracy, what happened?

    • @defence3355
      @defence3355 Рік тому +1

      2014 coup de tat by cia/nato.

  • @David-fj5lz
    @David-fj5lz Рік тому +7

    That’s where all the information is being leaked!

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому +1

      Yes, centuries ago the teachings of Jesus leaked out, to be replaced by the obsession for power, prestige, and wealth.

  • @alanmcmillan6969
    @alanmcmillan6969 Рік тому +13

    The russians would blame Ukraine for actions against the monastery. They were caught.

    • @vi.mo.3113
      @vi.mo.3113 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, singing a Russian song about Russia is a crime. That's exactly the type of "democracy" that's is imposed by the West. I bet mind control is the next logical step.

    • @lewispeaks1518
      @lewispeaks1518 Рік тому +1

      You make no sense

    • @slowbunny
      @slowbunny Рік тому +1

      I don’t care about what russia will tell. Neither should you.

  • @MarijnvdSterre
    @MarijnvdSterre Рік тому +17

    Well, duh! I am sure there are people supporting Russia in the Russian church... Probably not everyone (I mean, hence the video), but if they aren't promoting Russia, there is no need to worry about it being checked out.

    • @kibervatniki7552
      @kibervatniki7552 Рік тому +5

      In Ukraine, the court is not obliged to prove the guilt of a citizen, because during repressions people may not be tried, but liquidated for political views. The repression in Ukraine is even stronger now than in Stalin's time.

    • @skooptchefen1779
      @skooptchefen1779 Рік тому +7

      Where is the so called democracy in Kiev? I would spect this things to happen in Rusia or North Korea or Cuba but not in heavenly democratic Kiev.

    • @III-bo6zr
      @III-bo6zr Рік тому +4

      You're right. I'm pro-Russia, but if there was support, it definitely is a reason for the security services to check it out.

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому

      @Мишель Поппинс ☂️ ;Sorry to contradict you ; God is NOT the highest authority in that super wealthy, neo political, worldly organization masquerading as Christians. Power and wealth are the RULERS; same as the church of pagan Rome.

    • @carolekjellander8917
      @carolekjellander8917 Рік тому

      @@kibervatniki7552 Evidence?...

  • @dfguko
    @dfguko Рік тому

    And?

  • @JemHadar422
    @JemHadar422 Рік тому

    This can’t be good

  • @user-yk7jj1lu6b
    @user-yk7jj1lu6b Рік тому +13

    Ya and they say they don't discrimination against Russian speakers.

    • @antoniussamuelson3748
      @antoniussamuelson3748 Рік тому +2

      They just investigated dude. Just like that. Not forbidding people there to pray. So why you are so spicy?😂😂😂

  • @jetv1471
    @jetv1471 Рік тому +3

    Didn’t I read someplace that the head of todays Russian Orthodox Church is an old KGB buddy of Pootin’s ? For real …
    “Hey ! My phone automatically fills in “Pootin” for Putin!😂. It only took 8 mos for it to figure it out “

  • @privatepie
    @privatepie Рік тому +22

    They are not real Christians if it's true. Real Christians want Peace😥😥

    • @III-bo6zr
      @III-bo6zr Рік тому

      Then you dont know much about Christianity, if you think it's all about peace and love. Like a Greek nun from the monastery in Attica once told: 'Whoever prays for peace now is wasting his time. The world will no longer be."

    • @RokSzczura
      @RokSzczura Рік тому +2

      Russians proposed loads of peace agreements, and all were denied or broken by Ukraine.

    • @colinvanderross5825
      @colinvanderross5825 Рік тому

      @@RokSzczura none of Russian's proposed peace aggreement makes any sence, most based on their terms and conditions,they must just surrender as they were in the wrong and pay whats due to the rebuilding to Ukraine and further more, face the INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURTS, PERIOD.

    • @sonyagoldshtein9160
      @sonyagoldshtein9160 Рік тому +1

      You are not human. Real human can logically think

    • @artemkalinchuk
      @artemkalinchuk Рік тому +3

      @@RokSzczura “peace agreements” The only real peace is when Russia completely withdraws. “Peace agreements” are nothing but extortions.

  • @WaltervonKurzgesagt
    @WaltervonKurzgesagt Рік тому +2

    so apparently prayer is now a sabotage? another win for western values.

  • @thejking
    @thejking Рік тому +16

    Is it me or do organized religions always steer to the most dominating and oppressive regimes?

    • @celiaowen2444
      @celiaowen2444 Рік тому +2

      I think you’re right

    • @timmanning5357
      @timmanning5357 Рік тому +1

      Yes you are correct. Russia is not alone with this. The Republican Party under Trump uses the evangelical churches to great effect.

    • @asmirann3636
      @asmirann3636 Рік тому +1

      Organized religions work like mafia. They always side with the stronger power. In WW2, Rome was supportive of Germany, even when it knew that Germany was mass m*rdering people.

    • @onestarabove7027
      @onestarabove7027 Рік тому

      Ask Henry VIII

  • @DOI_ARTS
    @DOI_ARTS Рік тому +1

    What I learned from Delta Force movie is that the priest is always iffy 😁

  • @hanahudcova891
    @hanahudcova891 Рік тому +10

    Songs...prohibited...reminds me good old days in socialism. That time it was Beatles and Rolling Stones who were "dangerous propaganda" now it is old church songs, haha.. just sides changed...

  • @murielkerr-bell8007
    @murielkerr-bell8007 Рік тому +1

    About time

  • @KPZivot
    @KPZivot Рік тому

    I got a chance in feb 2022 to visit this amazing church

  • @deecee1522
    @deecee1522 Рік тому +10

    If they like Russia so much they should move there

    • @sayitasitis100
      @sayitasitis100 Рік тому +3

      Does that mean that those who follow the Church of Rome should move to Italy ?

    • @mrsalmon1960
      @mrsalmon1960 Рік тому +1

      Just as Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Lugansk, Crimea and Kherson did? Along with their territory? 😅

    • @jeckjeck3119
      @jeckjeck3119 Рік тому

      @@sayitasitis100
      Yes:/

    • @lani6647
      @lani6647 Рік тому

      All those who follow Judaism should move to Judaea?

  • @kashmirha
    @kashmirha Рік тому +1

    Kiril patriarch in Russia is/was a KGB agent. He was a leader among ortodox priests fron the 70-s. Has a disgiusting wealth too. So lets not be naive. Also: people know very well which song is suppoting Russia and which supports Ukraine. It is war, so again, lets not play naive.

  • @cristo6007
    @cristo6007 Рік тому +34

    The fact that it hasn't been hit by Russian missiles is suspect in itself.

    • @TheDisinformationProjectNz
      @TheDisinformationProjectNz Рік тому +8

      🤡

    • @Sidicas
      @Sidicas Рік тому

      Exactly and also proof that Putin has control over exactly where those missiles hit. They hit the maternity ward of a hospital today and killed a newborn baby. The childrens schools and playgrounds have also been targeed and destroyed. Same for the electrical infrasstrucutre relay stations also precisely targeted and destroyed cutting power right before winter for millions.

    • @kibervatniki7552
      @kibervatniki7552 Рік тому +1

      If a Ukrainian missile hits a peaceful building, it is called a Russian missile. It's like gender.

    • @normalusername5223
      @normalusername5223 Рік тому

      Evil Putler isn't targeting chruches like my cartoonish view of him suggests. Surely that means they're undercover agents of his!
      Do you people even listen to yourselves...

    • @skooptchefen1779
      @skooptchefen1779 Рік тому +3

      I thought Zelensky's air defence is pumping all missiles and drones.

  • @brawurst_not_sausages
    @brawurst_not_sausages Рік тому

    Inside they shock all the statue changes to russian orthodocs 😂

  • @easygamingwwiigamingchanne729

    This is whoke major underground complex with hidden rooms, facilities and long tunnneks. Ancient.

  • @denisavdeev8148
    @denisavdeev8148 Рік тому +1

    Where is the condonation for religious persecution?
    When they came for Jews I said nothing because I was not a Jew. When they came for union workers I said nothing because I was not part of the union.when they came for Catholics I said nothing because I was not Catholic. When they came for me there was no one left to speak up.

  • @Akama0927
    @Akama0927 Рік тому +6

    Russia has bombed churches everywhere BUT NOT THIS ONE. Something is not right here. This is the only building also not bombed in that region, that makes the suspicion even more legitimate

    • @RokSzczura
      @RokSzczura Рік тому +4

      Name one church Russia bombed.

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому

      @@RokSzczura ;The JW's one, maybe ?

    • @RokSzczura
      @RokSzczura Рік тому

      @@geraldhagen2989 I'm asking for a name of the church, where is it.

    • @dakedakinson64
      @dakedakinson64 Рік тому

      @@RokSzczura there is none.

  • @rxonmymind8362
    @rxonmymind8362 Рік тому +6

    You have to tread lightly when you act on this information. You don't want to inflame the religious Russians who are NOT for Russia in this war. I am glad that Ukrainian intelligence agency carry this out with respect. You don't want this to become a religious war.

  • @byde6673
    @byde6673 Рік тому +1

    It was SO OBVIOUS! Russian clergymen openly supplied information about Ukrainian army and infrastructure!

  • @ssir5927
    @ssir5927 Рік тому +1

    Not a good look for Ukraine. Shame.

  • @boomdelted
    @boomdelted Рік тому +10

    Catholic church of Russia is part of the kgb or fsb and are openly funded before (stating kgb for less confusion)

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому +1

      Yes, plus the church of pagan Rome (the wealthiest organization in the world) has, well disguised, power and wealth as their pillars; not Christianity.

  • @MR-intel
    @MR-intel Рік тому

    A leader of the Russian Orthodox church, with which this place is linked, called the attack on Ukraine a "holy war".

  • @techytrendysolutions6063
    @techytrendysolutions6063 Рік тому +4

    Confirmed it is supporter. Make it a supply storage of weapons.

  • @nimaramon6340
    @nimaramon6340 Рік тому

    Free people

  • @edmundprice5276
    @edmundprice5276 Рік тому +3

    I just hope no one got hurt

  • @mrjoykak
    @mrjoykak Рік тому

    They got caught alting

  • @andrew-hd8do
    @andrew-hd8do Рік тому +4

    After Ukraine wins this war I hope they hunt down all colaberaters and deal with them harshly. Also When the country gets back to normal and the refugees return to their homes the men who left who where of fighting age should be publicly shamed. Other men and women are dying while men of fighting age have fled and hope to return when war is over.

    • @Celticowl4136
      @Celticowl4136 Рік тому +1

      Lol this will end well

    • @kathev9050
      @kathev9050 Рік тому +2

      I'm curious to see how this will age. 🍷

    • @andrew-hd8do
      @andrew-hd8do Рік тому

      @@kathev9050 I'm living in Ireland, we got 50k Ukraines refugees. A lot of women and children but also a lot of men from 18 to 40. Gangs of them around. Should they now of stead and fought alongside their fellow country men and women of that age.?

    • @ollymark11651
      @ollymark11651 Рік тому

      If you really believe Ukraine is going to win this war, I have a bridge over the Thames I want to sell you!

    • @driftinvideo7347
      @driftinvideo7347 Рік тому

      So far you are still mostly fighting your own people.

  • @michaelholt7994
    @michaelholt7994 Рік тому +1

    The nazis knew no bounds,similarities.

    • @Loreless
      @Loreless Рік тому

      The westerners you mean

  • @prsimoibn2710
    @prsimoibn2710 Рік тому

    Wait until you discover what's going on in the polish churches

  • @mariathunberg4743
    @mariathunberg4743 Рік тому +7

    ❤️Ukraine!

  • @anthonymorford8804
    @anthonymorford8804 Рік тому

    It is time for me to put an end to all the suffering everywhere. It is time for me to put an end to the nonsense abuse. It is time for everyone to do the right thing at all times and make sure that everyone else is doing the right thing at all times. It will happen, and I will see to it if no one else is able or willing.

    • @Pete9Tails
      @Pete9Tails Рік тому

      😂 😂 😂 😂
      It's time for you to take your meds

    • @anthonymorford8804
      @anthonymorford8804 Рік тому

      @@Pete9Tails unfortunately you haven't been listening or following along well enough. You will be sure that all that nonsense has ended.

  • @123buraikake4
    @123buraikake4 Рік тому

    that is a good move. the place where the traitors would be least suspected is the church. they feel safe in the church, so it is a good move!

  • @user-cf2ou3jd9d
    @user-cf2ou3jd9d Рік тому +9

    If there wasn't moscow church world would be more peaceful place!

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 Рік тому +2

      if there was no persecution of russians in their own historical lands non of this would be happening today bandera lover

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому

      Please include the church of pagan Rome ; thanks.

  • @pynn1000
    @pynn1000 Рік тому +2

    Volodymyr became a "Byzantine" brand Christian. He'd got people to check out the biggies. He liked alcohol, so rejected Islam. Jerusalem had fallen so Judaism was out. Latin churches were dull, Byzantine ones livelier. So Constantinople is the choice he made. Who are those Russian clerics who argue with a Saint? (St with 100s of concubine, btw)

    • @anastasios8252
      @anastasios8252 Рік тому +1

      Your knowledge of history based on some stand up comedy. Stop embarrassing yourself.

    • @pynn1000
      @pynn1000 Рік тому

      @@anastasios8252 It's my best short summary of Nestor's account. Is it not factual?

    • @anastasios8252
      @anastasios8252 Рік тому

      @@pynn1000 Yeah. That what I said. You took 800-years old joke out of context and add some irrelevant connotation. That how stand up comedy works.

  • @ianchandley
    @ianchandley Рік тому

    It won’t be the first time religious organizations have played politics to gain power and advantage, and it won’t be the last….

  • @anp901
    @anp901 Рік тому +12

    Paranoia is showing

  • @carlosk8103
    @carlosk8103 Рік тому

    The fact that Russia immediately condemned the move mean Ukraine was right...

  • @derektomlinson6514
    @derektomlinson6514 Рік тому +3

    The Germans with the dreaded name done the same thing in WW2

  • @claudemaggard7162
    @claudemaggard7162 Рік тому +1

    Everything. Thst has ties to Moscow.

  • @dominushydra
    @dominushydra Рік тому +2

    Woman: "This church has nothing to do with Russia."
    SBU: "Then you won't mind if we investigate it."
    Woman: "...Blyat!"

  • @claudemaggard7162
    @claudemaggard7162 Рік тому +1

    Clean house Ukraine. Of everything Russian.

  • @hamzakri1099
    @hamzakri1099 Рік тому +12

    Gloria ukrania from morrocco

  • @user-sw8nm8yj6k
    @user-sw8nm8yj6k Рік тому +2

    “Democratic” Ukraine

  • @skooptchefen1779
    @skooptchefen1779 Рік тому +23

    Oh wait I thought Zelensky's Kiev was a heaven of democracy but now people can't even pray or sing according to thier belief?

    • @hb-ol9oc
      @hb-ol9oc Рік тому +8

      Yes they can but can´t help the invaders, is a matter of common sense.

    • @auser748
      @auser748 Рік тому +1

      WHAT

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 Рік тому

      @@hb-ol9oc kiev was russian just remember that

    • @Celticowl4136
      @Celticowl4136 Рік тому +2

      Did you not see how dangerous and savage they were on the video 😂

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому +1

      ;You hardly know any facts and jump to a dumb conclusion ; the Press' ideal customer.

  • @mandelmon
    @mandelmon Рік тому

    Ask the churches why are they doing that or is it because religion should be against fascism..

  • @SerhiyVoytenko
    @SerhiyVoytenko Рік тому

    If ruzzian peskov accusing Ukraine in something then Ukraine doing something right.

  • @kaseimir
    @kaseimir Рік тому

    Sorry but did you say "Offishny"? If you are going to speak English properly, especially since you are "English", the word is "Officially"

  • @nevashgabber8683
    @nevashgabber8683 Рік тому +5

    I have seen historical chronicles of how Hitler's SS detachments did the same thing

  • @bigwheelsturning
    @bigwheelsturning Рік тому

    The priests were probably the "locators" for the missiles that took out the power grid.

  • @truthplease4868
    @truthplease4868 Рік тому

    Poor Jesus + Mary -
    More people died in there name than
    They ever saved

  • @raymondchircop686
    @raymondchircop686 Рік тому +7

    Copycat as the nazi done in WW2

  • @profefabianaaguero8464
    @profefabianaaguero8464 Рік тому +3

    Chau rusos, a Rusia

  • @ennediend2865
    @ennediend2865 Рік тому +4

    Well done Ukraine 🇺🇦👍God bless you and your martyr people❤
    True Christians🙏cannot support dictatorship, violence and murder.

  • @joelopez5292
    @joelopez5292 Рік тому

    They want Russian dad? I think 🦁

  • @qwertykeyboard7640
    @qwertykeyboard7640 Рік тому

    Sounds like orthodox prodestants. The reformation in happening again history repeats

  • @jayw9879
    @jayw9879 Рік тому +3

    Well Well Well.... The church yet again!!! FFS.

  • @allanvinluan3017
    @allanvinluan3017 Рік тому

    hahahaha!!!! like in Philippines 🇵🇭 Church hides more skeleton 🩻 in there cabinet.....

  • @kathismatastic
    @kathismatastic Рік тому +1

    Ukraine is a Soviet state.

  • @benjaminabsuelo5698
    @benjaminabsuelo5698 Рік тому +8

    The west will never cried foul here

    • @stewartc4558
      @stewartc4558 Рік тому +3

      head of ROC is a former KGB agent and is funding a new group to help with the invasion

    • @ionnanskilliorus6877
      @ionnanskilliorus6877 Рік тому

      Why would they? It's a war and spies are dangerous. Even if they do dress up in funny clothes and hide behind religion.

    • @crocket1338
      @crocket1338 Рік тому

      Because it's obvious there are suspicious activities there regarding the war. The only problem was Ukraine didn't crack it down sooner

    • @paidwitness797
      @paidwitness797 Рік тому +1

      Yep, this story will never be covered by western news agencies, it will be ignored and pushed out of sight....wait a minute, its here in full view and being shown to the world and commented on, what the hell is going on, moscow told me this would be hidden....?

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому

      Why should they? That organization, very wealthy, is deeply involved in power, politics and business ; 'Christianity' is their cover up. This does not apply to many of its members.

  • @dreamadventure8220
    @dreamadventure8220 Рік тому +1

    honest feeling of public, no amount of staged drama can dilute it

  • @user-tm4js4zz9m
    @user-tm4js4zz9m Рік тому +14

    The fact is that the pastor of the monastery said. that historically Crimea is Russian. And immediately the searches began.

    • @milansavic2803
      @milansavic2803 Рік тому +6

      And he was right. So, now, everybody must tell just a fake history, Zelensky said it is democratic thingh to do

    • @ThePonster64
      @ThePonster64 Рік тому +9

      Historically Crimea is Turkish and before that it was part of the Mongolian Empire. How far back do you want to go?

    • @alexteo6148
      @alexteo6148 Рік тому

      Fake

    • @RokSzczura
      @RokSzczura Рік тому +2

      @@ThePonster64 It's not the case of history. Jews "historically" owned Palestine, but they have no rights to it now. Crimea is majority Russian, and less than 15% are Ukrainians. It's not a secret knowledge you can see it on Wikipedia.

    • @far_centrist
      @far_centrist Рік тому +2

      @@ThePonster64 it is irrelevant who owns the region in a certain period of history, he was saying that the search is a result of the statement by church officials. People seem to forget that many ukranians respect its historic ties to russia due to its cultural and lineage bond. But the last time someone held a protest over the coup they were brutally murdered. Look up the protest in odesa, look up the protest in donbas. People were gunned down in the street for not accepting the rule of banderite nationalist. To this day, at least half of the citizens of the eastern and southern part of ukrane are pro-russian. Look up also AP reports on kiev catching any pro-russian citizen in kiev and lvov for showing support for russia in social media. Remember that many russian had relatives in ukr, so does ukranian had relatives in russia. It's not as black and white as you people think.

  • @comrade9374
    @comrade9374 Рік тому +4

    Winter will freeze them🤣

  • @nivek5031
    @nivek5031 Рік тому +1

    Also beware of churches (Priests & Choirs) with origins or connections to the old Communist East Germany, with names like, Євангелічно-лютеранська церква Десь 😑

    • @Celticowl4136
      @Celticowl4136 Рік тому

      Yeah yeah beware of Rabbi's and all that 🙄😑

    • @nivek5031
      @nivek5031 Рік тому

      @@Celticowl4136 Dumb @ss 0wl has never been out of his tree. 😏

    • @Celticowl4136
      @Celticowl4136 Рік тому

      @@nivek5031 talk crap get wrecked

  • @mexesrexes4495
    @mexesrexes4495 Рік тому +6

    Wow, so singing is a crime now. Who would have thought.

    • @Celticowl4136
      @Celticowl4136 Рік тому +1

      They will be at the Eurovision next 😂

    • @barbarahesford5061
      @barbarahesford5061 Рік тому

      I suspect there was more going on than just singing

    • @Celticowl4136
      @Celticowl4136 Рік тому

      @@barbarahesford5061 did they light candles too 😂

  • @asscandy9082
    @asscandy9082 Рік тому +12

    Looks like a system deavouring itself. Concratulations!

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому +2

      Classic summary. Sadly it, like the church of pagan Rome, has too much power over too many people, for far too long, and it, sadly, will survive. Plus, its wealth is staggering, and deadly tentacles reach into many corridors of power in many countries. Yes, it is masquerading as a Christian establishment, but, like the church of pagan Rome, shows very little evidence of practicing the teachings of Jesus.

  • @nasseemmuttur778
    @nasseemmuttur778 Рік тому +13

    Welcome to democracy, the Ukrainian way.

    • @tetyanas4026
      @tetyanas4026 Рік тому

      What do you know about democracy,? What to you know about Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Moscow Patriarchy (aka Russian Church in Ukraine) and their activities in Ukraine?

  • @harveypost1841
    @harveypost1841 Рік тому

    Jesus has one religion not a jigsaw religion..

  • @aadilansari5997
    @aadilansari5997 Рік тому +2

    Jew Zelensky showing his true colors.

  • @Peace-ok7xo
    @Peace-ok7xo Рік тому

    😂😂😂😂

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 Рік тому +2

    When lost and suspicious everyone around the fast drowning leader appears to be a threat. When this happens it is the most dangerous of times to be near him.

  • @antongavutti4376
    @antongavutti4376 Рік тому +3

    Long live Russia & Ukraine Frienship!!!

  • @gerardoflores9894
    @gerardoflores9894 Рік тому

    its not a churck it is a , because it is idolatrous . so run for your life .

  • @JoaoMariaNunes
    @JoaoMariaNunes Рік тому

    after all there is only on major difference, one side belives the holy spirit descends from the father, while says it descends from both the father and the son....

    • @geraldhagen2989
      @geraldhagen2989 Рік тому

      ;Sadly it had more to do with POWER than the Gospel.