0.24Ω Wickless Coil Tutorial on a IGO-W
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Wickless Coil???!!?!?!? Yea I said wickless coil build. A man by the name of Kent Hill from "The Builder Bar" group on FB posted this build the other day and I didn't believe him so I do what all good builders do...I made one myself to test it. It works flawlessly!!!
So here ya go the tutorial on what i consider a game changing build "The Wickless Coil"
If you have any questions please let me know and i'll get to them as soon as I see them.
If you like these video tutorials please subscribe to my channel to see many more i'll be doing every week along with some juice and device reviews. Thanks for watching and VAPE ON!
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PS: This is an advanced build that uses a very low sub ohm coil!!! Only use batteries that are rated for 30amps or above and have a way to test your build resistance before you fire it! PLEASE BE SAFE!
I watched this video last night and then made my own this morning on my trident v2 and man do I love it!! Thanks for the tutorial, keep them coming.
Right on, it's a pretty awesome coil. No worries about the videos...i'm not stopping anytime soon :p
Your the kind of person this world doesn't need.
"You're"
If you're too stupid to know the difference of something so simple, you're what this world doesn't need...
Just built one...wrapped 28awg, over a twisted 28awg piece...i got .7ohms...really nice to not have to worry about burning my wick. Thanks Ray. Really cool build.
Just made one with twisted 26g and a 28g wrap to test diy flavors and mixes. Had my doubts but managed to squeeze it into my Derringer clone. Came out to .34 ohm and works great. Gets hella hot on a mech so I'll be using it on my iStick 50w. Thanks Ray.
isticks use glue on the 510, no? don't let it get too hot
Dude your quickly becoming my favorite builder
Awesome thanks's for that huge compliment. Glad you are liking the videos. :)
Hey Ray, hope all is well! I drilled my post holes and mounted my coil. It came in @.25 ohms. Glows hotter than the sun. I'm afraid I'm going to melt my o-rings
Awesome!!! I'm gonna try to get some more builds going soon. Been really busy recently so I gotta find some time to sit back and think of some builds.
didn't have the same size wire as you so i used 4 strands of 28 twisted and wrapped 1 strand 28 gauge around the twisted. 4 wraps micro coil .24 Ohm
Game changer right here.
So I finally got around to trying this. I don't like to go as low as 0.24 ohms, so I used twisted 24 gauge wire wrapped with 30 gauge wire. Everything else was exactly the same as in this video -- coil diameter, number of wraps, and the same spacing for the wrap wire. It ended up measuring out to 0.45 ohms, and worked pretty well on my TOBH 2.5, but was nothing amazing.
Overall, it's an interesting concept. I will definitely try it again. Next time I will wrap the outside wire a bit tighter (closer together), as that will increase surface area and will help wick just even more easily. Maybe next time will work better, but for now, I am sticking with my usual "boring" 2 mm, 0.7 ohm single coil built with 26 gauge wire. I've tried dozens of different builds, but keep coming back to that because it always works great.
Mate. The drill and hook was an engineering next level idea. Cheers.
Thanks, I was getting pissed at the wire slipping off my allen wrenches and had that hook laying on my table.
This reminded me a lot of the first 510 drip tip. It was the size of a cig butt. Inside was wire woven mesh. 3 drops in and vape till you almost get burnt or do get burnt. So on a small scale this idea has been around for a long time. Just not put on a deck. The old pencil ego battery with that on top. It had flavor that beat the atts of that time period. I'm not suggesting someone copied a design. The theory and idea was the start of dripping. I still have my old 510. I tried it recently and was choked by burnt.
Great. Thank you so much. I made the wick less coil today. However I have to wait til tomorrow to drill the posts out to handle the bad boy. Thanks again
No problem hope you like it.
Thanks for the tutorial man. Just made this on a trident clone and it hits like a beast! Props to you!
No problem glad you like it.
this is a good way to test juices, but i have a question the flavor is good, can you taste all the flavors of the juice?
Thanks for this vid Ray. I made this coil and it's great, like you said, for testing juices. I make my own juices and this way I don't have to change wicks now. I'll keep this IGO-W with this coil in it in case I want to try a friends juice or something like that.
Hell yeah thanks for sharing that coil I work in a Vape shop where I sell liquid and I'm always rewicking my tiny cotton wicks cuz they always carry over different liquids this is going to be a game changer for me I'm so excited to go to work tomorrow now lol
Hell yea that is a perfect coil for you then! Just be careful and don't spill the hot liquid on yourself like I did hahaha.
Just pulled the wick from my coil. bent the coil down. Juiced and started vaping. Im hooked. you don't need a .24 ohm coil for sure though. overkill. Thanks man. I am hooked on wickless dripping. taste clean does not glow the coil. I'm just using one 2 ohm coil from my duel 1 ohm build.
When you finish stranding the 24 simply lace the 28 through the loop that the hook leaves. Makes it much easier to put into the drill. About to install.
thank you kent and ray, brilliant idea and execution !
You are very welcome.
Good ASS IDEA! I JUST DID THE SAME THING FOR MY IGO-W AND BROOOOOO I DID IT ON THE NANO COIL I HAVE MAD VAPE MAD FLAVOR! 30G WIRE 10 WRAPS 22G NEEDLE AND MAN!!! I'M IN THE CAR GETTING MAD VAPES! LIFESAVER!
Right on enjoy that coil!!!
now to buy the needed Kantho I only have 26 guage now but I am definitely going to try this one out. new to building my coils but better is just better thanks for sharing Ray
Just be sure you test the resistance and use the 30+ amp batteries. Battery safety is so important when building this type of coil. If you ever have any questions ask me and i'll try my best to help ya out.
if you bend the ends of the wire into a T putting them into the drill its self and then use a screwdriver on the looped end it works out easier without shooting around the world i love a 28 twisted 8 wrap personalty i cant wait to try this loved the video
OMG...I just tried your twisting method and it has got to be the best, cleanest, easiest way to twist out there! Rip Trippers, PBusardo take note. Thanks Chase.
That is one of the coolest builds I've seen
Thanks, I thought so as well.
I made quite a few of these all of them read 0.30 but there still awesome!
This is so cool! I will try and hopefully succeed at building one!
Thank you so much for getting back to me. I'm going to build that bad boy. I'd rather get 5 or6 blasts than 15 and a cotton hit. Horrible! Thanks soooooo much for sharing this buil with us capers. I know I'm going to love itCan you tell me what camera and mic models you use. I want to do some videos.
I use a Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920 & a Samson C01U - USB Studio Condenser Microphone
Really cool man, loving the build vids. Keep it up!
I am doing this coil as I watch. Game changer is right.
Great video, awesome looking coil and great for testing juices, can I ask tho, What size have you drilled the air holes to? or what would you recommend as I want to drill mine out but don't want to go to big....Thanks in advance
Great vid. I've got some 28g & 32g wire. Whats your thoughts on using this & maybe getting the ohms up to .6 - .8 ??
It should work just fine, give it a go and let me know,
I really like the idea of this coil. Ill assume the vapor is really hot though right?
Hell yeah! Thanks man! Keep the good videos coming! Cheers mate
Hey nice vids ! Are you putting all 3 strands into the posts or just the 28 ? Thanks in advance .John
HighVoltageProjects All three go into the post holes
Also known as a bridgeless atomizer, or bridgeless dripping atomizer, or a BDA. Very Nice build. What Mechanical Mod are you using?
nvr mind, Nemesis mod.
Didn't really like the idea of this coil at first, but when you brought of the part about dripping it at vape shops that kind of changed my mind on it. The vape shop I go to, all i do is drip to test out their flavors.
I was there today and I only tried a few, but there was a couple where I couldnt even taste them whatsoever although they smelled really good, most likely because I had a cinnamon toast type flavor in there before and these were fruity flavors.
Maybe I'll try one of these just for when I go to the shop
+Serrated Frost That's where a build like this works the best. I used to use this coil for my juice testing, and now the company I work for both the retail shops also use wickless coils for testers.
Ray Lo Vapes I wish my shop used those. But they only use shitty carto's for like over half of their lower quality flavors, and then mediocre RTA's that are usually flooded and just gargle like a son of a bitch and give you no good vape. So it sucks when they don't have a tester bottle left in a flavor i wanna try and just those things.
But i feel like they wouldn't use that because RDA's typically give you a lot of bang for ur buck, and people would just cough like crazy, specially newbies. Unless they somehow made like high resistance wickless at a low watt so people dont die who arent used to it haha
that is amazing will definitely use this very soon, another good use is at a convention! if you make enough when you go you can seel them out the wazzoo!
Some threads on that cap with O rings. Maybe that would help reduce boiling juice spills. Baffled drip tip to deflect boiling splash.
Hey mate @ 5:30 If you will pass the smaller wire through 2 of the grooves. then insert your twisted wire in & tighten it down. the twisted wire will hold the other one in place.
I never knew that until now nice
Should totally do this build on the omega
I have a question. I'm a newbie but I'm hooked on vaping. I love it. Got a Hana mod and a stingray. My question is when you unstranded the 28 off of the 2 legs , where exactly did you put the four wire? Did you put them into two posts? If so, why didn't you leave the 28 wrapped since it's going to the same post? Please clarify the connecting part. I love love love the video and of course the coil is insanely awesome. Your explanations are clear and concise. I believe there was a cut in the video. You were just about to make connections and next thing you were pulling them tight. I missed how to connect it. Please explain. Thanks. Big Fan Big Frank
I was having trouble pulling the twisted wire through the post holes so by unwrapping the legs it made it a bit smoother and easy to pull through. I unwrapped them to the start of the coil.
Beautiful looking build! The problem with this kind of build is eventually it cooks the juice till it turns into a black sugar. At that point if you dont clean out your well often youre just wasting good juice. Just my experience building for people. Even a genesis will do the same over time. Great idea though!
Slammin vid bro! Gonna try that tomorrow. See you on OCD!
Thanks
Ray Lo you Dork.(21:19)
But I Still Watch your vids Anyway.
You are the man that got me started winding coils. With 29 Gauge! When first searching for newbee build info I weeded thru the "stuff" till I found Your Stuff. Bookmarked!
I have not sub-ohmed.(Yet!) Stay above 1.0. Have 28g 29g 30g and 32g. BuT, 29 gets burnt up the Most Still to This Day!(Ray Lo Knows) 32g? Hang pictures, fix the fence, clothesline, piano wire substitute for strangulati . . . . . . uh . . never mind . . Just those First Three Things. That is it's 3 uses For Me. Uh-Hu . . . .
And Now you have Shown me yet Another very important aspect of coils.
The Wickless Hybrid
And it Definitely has it's place/purpose, just as you explained. But in the "Design Fits The Application" aspect, what Other coil type is more Appropriate for an ELickwid Sampling Buffet type situation?!? Why the One that Ray Lo Showed us how to build Rite Here, of course! ["Why excuse me Ma'am. May I Taste Your Juice?!?"(snobbish British accentish intendedish)] "Huh?"
Thx for another instructional video in a long line of great tutorials, but Most of All, Thx for the inspiration, RLV.
Right on Randall Scott. Thank you, I really appreciate getting comments like yours. Always awesome to know my videos reach out and help people out there.
this is pretty cool. Oddly enough though when I built another build in my dark horse there was some juice left over and it mixed with my other juice and the two flavors combined was amazing
Some of the best tasting juice I have tried was the result of accidental mixing. Then again, so was some of the worst.
good video editing. where did you go to school for editing? very professionally done.
I think you are the first person to say that. I think my editing is dismal at best lol.
Cool coil man, got yourself a sub from it. How is this coil different performance wise from a clapton or an abyss? :D
Compared to the clapton this uses a twisted wire inside allowing for the liquid to wick up the twisted wire and the spaced out wire (similar to the clapton) hold the juice in the small pockets. Not sure if i've seen the abyss coil.
Love it, now to get it to work in a kayfun style tank, brain storm, go..
Pretty sure it's not possible due to the vacuum you need to make to draw enough juice to the wick. In this build it sits in the liquid.
Finally got tired of tasting other ways and found the wicking on this method does help over normal twisted or tiger wire.
The 24 ga was too hot for my throat. Made with twisted 26 ga and a 28 wrapper. Seated in a Tugboat deck. Hard to position, but deep well and less splash burn (got a nice one on my arm) potential than most IGO. Air flow being open in the deck works well enough. Much faster than re-wick on macro coil for tasting.
Only thing I noticed was a need for a fair amount of juice. Not nearly as much as saturated a wick and all that rot ofc.
And to everyone: Safety Glasses really do work.
Remarkable stuff, thanks.
I thought so.
Scratch that last post except the great guy part. I see from you other videos that your from Vegas and I'm watching reviews you did of some ejuices. Vape on brother
Oh I'm not from Vegas but I was pretty close a few months ago living in the middle of nowhere (Helendale CA) But I'm back In good ol' Los Angeles now, home of the traffic and the smog!!!! Wooooo :P
You seem like a great guy. Where are you located? Do you sell ejuice?
I have that same problem when making coils m8 its so bad I always plan on making two coils every time! I can drop one where I'm sitting and some how it will end up in the next room..
Weird how they grow legs and run away lol
I must have missed something (even though I watched it twice). I understand the unwinding of the 28g wire on the leads to make the leads fit in the hole. But you seem to make quite a point of straightening the wire out after unwinding it. But then as far as I can tell, you just cut it off after installing the coil in the atomizer. Does straightening the wire serve a purpose? If my holes are large enough, can I just trim it as is? Or must I unwind it?
This video was made a few years ago when all RDA's had tiny post holes. But if you have post holes that are wide enough to fit (Most should now a days) you can skip that step.
Rayray, you craycray! Nicely done! :D
Technically any coil build can be used wickless. I do it with dual 24ga super nano coils. They're tiny, so I can push them lower to really get into the juice. Started out as a dumb idea, but ended up being great
well, i wanted to make a clapton coil with a twisted 28 Ga core becouse i couldnt find anything about it. this is quite suprising i use wicks, and the vapor looks the same can vape 12-15 hits without having to redrip.
NIce vid, appreciate the effort. Ultimately it's the same principle as a bridgeless 306/510. Seems like the creator of this recipe was in a bit of overkill-mode. 73-57 Watt vapes aren't for everyone, this should do better at a higher res? No?
What's great about seeing other people's builds is feeding the inspiration to try your own new recipe. This one gives me some ideas.
hey, i did expect the heat in mod, and or atomizer, but i got my throat Fried. I would love to be able to do as you suggested taste testing.i made it on the patriot clone and i know it needs more work for a better build, but is there a same tester Wickless version with out burning my throat so bad i need milk to coat the fire? thanks in advance.
Super Cool Man!!!
Thanks :)
I guess you don't wanna try vaping this build laying on the couch huh? Mouthful o'hot juice might not be too fun! Thanks for the video.
Yea you wanna keep this one straight up and down
wickless, sir u hav my subscription.
Awesome thanks weirdodude550 glad to have it!
how is it working out for you? Any updates on it?
I still use it from time to time as a taste tester. Also have seen some cool wickless wire designs where they place the 28g in the grooves of the twisted 24. Looks real nice and wicks even better.
Couldn't you do the same thing without have to twist the wire together? I'm guessing you can just build a nano coil ,leave long legs, and place them as close to the bottom as possible and do the same as a massive coil?
The reason the wire is twisted is to make a area for the juice to wick up on to it. It's similar to the SS wicks used in a Genesis style RBA. The 28g wrapped around it gives the juice a stopper to hold juice in the sections better. A basic nano in a pocket of juice wont get juice to the top of the coil nor will it hold juice like this does so you'll get hot spots much quicker.
amazing idea thanks for idea and video
You are very welcome.
Put some eye protection on when running the drill. You're lucky that wire didn't hurt you when it flew off
Dude, this would be awesome with a 3D. That's for the tut.
what battery are you using mate?
I was either using the red efest 1600 mah 30 amp or the Purple efest 35 amp batteries. Can't remember exactly. But now I have Sony VTC5's
im using a e fest red also and a samsung SDI ICR 18650-26H WAS THAT OK TO USE FOR MOD RDA?
Tell you the truth i'm not sure what the amp limit is one those batteries. Most important thing to know about a battery is the amp limit. If you exceed the amp limit on the battery you can vent and discharge the battery and ruin the device and possibly your hand.
mr nice guy Your Samsung battery has an amp limit of 5.2 amps. I have the same one and it took me about an hour to finally find any info on it other than its a 2600 mAh 18650. I would not build any kind of sub ohm on it considering at .8 ohm it is already over its max discharge capacity. Get a VTC4 or 5 by Sony. Stay safe and vape on.
i got already my vtc4 and im using a parallel stack bat. on my diy box mod and it works pecfectly than my mechmod...
tnx mate for the reply
If they don't have the hook for the drill, simply modify a paperclip.
Is that the nemesis mod...?
Yes it is.
Awesome
Hey, see that wire break and fly? If you don't have safety glasses, at least use some wrap around sunglasses. You only get one set of eyes. Nice video!
FUCKING AWESOME IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
building mine now ;D thank you
I thought so! Hope it worked out for ya.
i cant see this being good for your rda...the coils are constantly glowing due to the lack of a wet wick, but neat regardless.
Is a derelin drip tip the same as a delrin drip tip?
Yea same thing i'm a dumbass and was saying it wrong.
Ray Lopez Oh ok, I thought there was a different type that held the heat of better. Cool videos man. I love trying and experimenting with new builds.
what's the purpose of this...is it just to look cool
+Jonathan Wright its for the time when you don't have cotton but you have coils genius
*WARNING*
twisting AND clipping wire people should be aware of potential eye injury.
get a small piece of wire fly into your eye from clipping or as this vid shows, a snapping twist and its the rest of your life with 1 eye.
peeps wear eye protection or if you have glasses, put em.
Turk very very great advice! 👍🏼 thank you
kent hill is twisted messes for those who dont know
Yup this was before he became the myth, the man, the legend. Lol
+Ray Lo Vapes almost thought Kent hill was a pseudonym for kanthal or something lol
got it to .24 but it won't fire...what am i doing wrong?
Ryan Chase Not sure man, can't really tell ya without seeing it.
On a mechanical mod? You will not get that to fire on a regulated mod unless its one of the new 100+watt mods, as the amp draw will be too high for the device.
If the wire is not getting hot, you are probably shorted against the body of your atty, or your screws came lose. Sometimes a loose connection can arch and deposit a layer of oxide meaning tightening down the screws may not help, in that case, back the screw out wiggle the leg in the post hole, then tighten the screw down really snug, and it should make good connection again.
Awsome
Good vid, but it broke off from too much tension. Use less tension but just enough to keep wires straight.
Forgot to mention but the read is 2.0 oms
"and it flew away" hahahahahaha!
Super deep drip well
That would be perfect.
Yeah I almost ordered one but I'm new to building and the said the high drip well makes it a pain to build on so I got the igo w instead
whats with the black box? FAIL
Doing wickless coils are generally a bad idea instead of vaporising the juice you are boiling it and when you boil the juice you get different chemical compounds then you do when you vaporise the juice with a cotton wick.
+nick clattenburg You do realize that boiling is what creates the vapor right? >.
Edit this and add that maybe its a good idea to wear eye protection when twisting wire
If that is the case then you should wear eye protection when cutting the wire as well....or when firing any coil due to splatter. Or wear non puncture gloves since the wire is sharp. It's really up to the builder if they want to wear safety gear when building coils. I personally never do.
looks scary, I smoke to much weed to be responsible enough to not drip juice out the air holes onto my hand")
+Behren Valiukas i can relate to dat
+Behren Valiukas true... true...
Why not built a RTA with no wick, in that way this idea would be more appropriate and convenient. Just sayin
I feel like this was much longer than it needed to be..
Derlin.
"and it flew away"
looks like a tiger coil n90
Who likes a gargling juice lol
Nice but I like my wicks
Just because it works doesn't mean you should do it.
bloody thumbs LOL
But why
The real question is "Why not?" This allows for full flavor and instant flavor changing when testing out multiple flavors. But with all trick builds it's not necessary but this is for builders who like to try out new cool builds.
kent hills a scrhub
he stole two of my designs
Which ones?
Looks so beefy.
It is beefy as all hell
I did a .9 .9 22 tiger coil. Sandwich the 22 gauge between the two pieces of .9 then stick her in the ol drill. Twist pretty slow. I performs very well.
Big forehead. Big flavor