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I was watching the age of samurai on Netflix. And it hit me like a ton of bricks black clover does have a lot of Japanese parallels. For one asta has a 5 leaf Clover grimoire. You know who else had a 5 leaf clover as their symbol? Oba Nobunaga. Also he was betrayed by one of his top generals before he could unify Japan. The wizard king was betrayed and killed before he could unify the clover Kingdom. By one of his top captains nonetheless. That was just a few of the things. I really can't recommend enough you watching black clover enough.
I swear between Gaijin Goombah and Lockstin, we'll learn all about the culture orgins of everything in Legends arceus... Thoes two really need to do a colab.
Watching this after having only seen Lockstin's video, and hearing Goomba's rant, I have to wonder how many of the theory videos are spouting the ninja idea for you to make this big a deal about it.
Well, it does seem like Lockstin is outnumbered by the folks who are saying they're Ninja, especially since the trailer showed the player characters crouching and sneaking in game. So maybe that's it?
@@cameronbaines3149 Yes, that's true, others like Gaijin, with greater knowledge of Japan, would know more, but all things considered, Lockstin was really close!
Same. But that's partially cause other Poketubers have kinda gotten click-baity, and there content isn't nearly as fun/interesting or accurate as Gnoggin.
Pokémon Legends is honestly the most hyped I've been for Pokémon in years. There's going to be so much to explore and honestly a lot of real-life parallels to examine, more than we've seen already for sure.
The frontier was what I got from legends, don't forget that in Japan there was a time before Hokkaido was settled and it was in retaliation of the Russian czar, the feudal period was less medieval and more psudeo steam age. After the samurai got gunpowder they made guns in the late sengoku period
GG subtley acknowledged Lockstin regarding the time period. But, the stuff about the starters in lockstin's second video are not very relevant to the time period or the location involved.
@@nicodalusong149 I’d say they still have relevance. Yes, historically both the samurai and shogunate were well on their way out by this point in time, but culturally both are still HEAVILY romanticized in Japanese pop-culture. Add that to the fact that your getting them from what looks like an embassy, as he points out, and the theory that the starters both represent the military government of Japan at the time (heavily romanticized, though of note there were plenty of Samurai who sided WITH the Meiji government and served as commanders and officers in the imperial army) and the major powers at play in the area (Kingdom of Hawaii, the US, and Southern Japan) fits pretty well.
@@darkflame9410 I agree with them being romanticized. Rurouni Kenshin and other shows (anime, movies, J-drama and so on) go over this topic quite a bit.
@@darkflame9410 Besides Legends Arceus could have more than one inspiration, like the Kalos Legendary trio were inspired both by Norse and Hindu mythologies.
@@zerokura I'm guessing the general appearance of the PC's, plus the common association of Scarves and Ninja and the fact that you can perform "stealth captures" (as I like to call them), are what led to this conclusion. But yeah, if you think about it, they're more like hunters or trappers than anything else, just saying.
@@Altarahhn i wonder if black belts force catch pokemon like they throw the ball catch it and run right to the ball than hold it down in their hands so it wont pop open lol
And here, I thought the starters were good examples of Sky, Sea, and Land, while keeping the standard fire/water/grass trinity that pokemon will probably use until the series dies.
Unfortunately, to a lot of people, there's only "ancient japan" (basically everything before WW2) and "modern japan" (basically everything _after_ WW2). A real shame, since there's a really rich and well-documented history that a lot of people miss out on.
Otters have an interesting place in different mythologies. While the Otter in Japan, and more likely the cultural tales of the Ainu (Probably why the Otter is called Ainu in the Element Encyclopedia of Magical Creatures by John and Caitlin Matthews), the Otter is classified as a trickster when it's not being a goofball or disguised to be something more horrific but the Otter is classified very differently in Irish lore, there it is a nearly indestructible warrior that has a single weak point located just beneath one of its arms. At least, that's what my research has yielded, and I think Gaijin Goombah should absolutely pick up that book (if he already hasn't), not only will it have some mythological Japanese creatures and statements about animals and their placement in Japanese lore (which he may or may not know), it also has sections on monsters and creatures from various other cultures, which includes beliefs about certain animals.
Keep in mind when it comes to creative liberties, they're not strictly bound to be accurate at all. The connections can be obscure, surface level, or just none at all.
The trailer never said that, but a lot of the fanbase are insisting as much. From what I can find, mostly fueled by Lockstin's theory and them taking it as fact, though I doubt he's the only popular UA-camr with that sort of theory. Edit: Turns out I might have been wrong? Looking at other comments, Lockstin never mentioned ninjas. So I'm even more confused, because aside from hearing people claim his theory is fact, the only bad theory I've heard about the "timing" is that its Cyrus' new world or time travel based, still no mention of ninjas...
@@Kahadi Lockstin did say they look like ninja, he even mentioned how Greninja’s tongue is used as a scarf like the scarfs the trainers have in their designs.
I always thought Cynthia was of *Ainu descent* or the Pokemon equivalent. It would even explain her blonde hair and her love for history. Just my personal take.
I'm so happy that we're talking about the Ainu influences; it's exciting to see that Ainu heritage isn't being forgotten in the shadow of Japan's colonialism. Hopefully this will raise some awareness for the indigenous people of Hokkaido.
@@robertgronewold3326 Even if GG was familiar, Lockstin's first video was mostly about when the game takes place. His second video does the whole inital thing everyone else has caught on to regarding the starters. He promised an Ainu-centric video but, from what I know, he hasn't put that one out yet. So if anything GG's out in front regarding that aspect of the game's lore.
Man, Lockstin got to basically the same conclusion almost immediately after the trailer dropped, and from basically a different angle. It's cool to see how much went into this game culturally and historically!
Fun fact: I was already familiar with the mythical role of owls in Ainu culture. Another Fun Fact: the most common owl species in Finland also live in Japan. I was very surprised when I learned that.
I'm really happy that series such as Golden Kamuy and the Pokemon franchise are bringing Ainu culture and folklore to a wider audience. It's really a cool and beautiful culture and history and I'm excited to learn more about it!
@@prexp9026 what is going to happen in future chapter of Golden Kamuy Saichi sees a woman in the distance and she has long dark hair, dark blue eyes and pale skin and wears traditional Ainu clothing. He can't recognise her after 10 years have passed, but she is the same woman that saved his butt from a bear, but 10 years older. Saichi recognise Asirpa right away and runs happily towards her. He notices she is developed and grown up: beautiful, seductive, flirty, alluring, moderatelly voluptuous slim Ainu lady with D cup breasts. Asirpa seductevelly calls Saichi 'snow hunk' because of his broad muscular athletic physique and kisses him into cheek. Then his j*nk hardens upon Asirpa winking seductevelly at him ❄☃️⛄🌨🐰🦌🍒🍓🍫🍷💋🌹
I honestly think that it comes down to ninja being more widely recognized and selling better than Ainu. I’ll be honest, until golden kamui I wasn’t even aware of the Ainu people and culture at all. On the other hand, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn’t know what a (pop culture) ninja is. Even if the labeling is wrong, the effort that went into researching and portraying the traditions of the Ainu is worth giving credit to. Marketing teams aside, I am really excited to see a game that does go the extra distance in terms of cultural inspirations.
I doubt GG saw his video, but I'm glad to see they agree. Two independent researchers coming to the same conclusion is very likely when they both put in so much effort.
I mean, he cited the person who he got a wealth of knowledge from on this topic. The cross examination of what the inspirations could be, along with learning about all these countries is the best thing about these channels.😊
Your insight into Ainu history and culture turned this video into a homerun. Most of your speculation is more or less on-point. The only one that's maybe not quite there is how Pokeballs are made from Apricorns and Tumblestones, but other than that you're absolutely right. It does seem that the game takes place closer to late Meiji or Taisho era, but Pokemon is always a little vague and flexible as far as exact year goes.
So I just looked up the Ainu and they were assimilated into the Japanese people during the Meiji Restoration much like how many western civilizations did to other indigenous peoples. Guess western imperialism really impacted Japanese culture in all of the wrong ways.
One thing I would like to note is that people are saying that making the first Pokedex is a retcon because "Oak made the first Pokedex in Red/Green/Blue/Yellow" But this isn't the case: he made the first ELECTRONIC Pokedex: as stated when he gives it to you. Before then, everyone had to manually write everything down. Same thing with Pokeballs: the modern Pokeball as we see it in games is something that only came into being within the last 50 years, with many older Pokemon trainers such as Dreydan of the Unova region and Kurt of the Johto region stating that before then people either had to use apriballs (which would take an entire day to make a handful of balls using modern techniques and technology, and only one at a time if that artisan didnt have an assistant to help them, so just imagine how long it would take before people had all the modern gizmos of modern-era Pokemon) or they had to literally duke it out, Human v Pokemon, to win that Pokemon's trust and have it willing follow them in a sort of Student-Sensei martial artist relationship. Dreydan only put his Pokemon in Pokeballs a few years prior to the events of Black and white, implying that Unova didnt even have access to modern Pokeballs until fairly recently as they did not have a company that produces them like they do in Kanto, Hoenn, and Kalos until the Battle Company was founded in Castellia to produce them and other battle items for trainer consumption. As someone who absolutely adores finding all the hidden lore and history of the Pokemon world, I am _VERY_ excited for Legends.
The thing that annoyed me about Legends was people crying how the trailers are awesome and how SWSH was not this. And I always remind them about trailers with this little name: Watch_Dogs.
And I keep reminding people about how many handhelds it took for GameFreak to master sprites and put out Black and White. They will get to that point eventually with 3D.
I believe SWSH were the prototype for this. The wild area is basically a miniature version of an open-world Pokémon game, and the DLCs doubled down on that. The main complaint I've seen about that concept was that it felt too small and cramped - which is exactly the issue you want to have if you plan to go bigger. I'm cautiously optimistic about it. The only things they could really screw up with this concept is to make it too linear or too boring/empty. Despite the many jokes about the similar look, I think they can't go wrong by leaning heavily on Breath of the Wild - it's "play your way" gameplay style is a great way to set up an open world game (and BotW's success shows it). Allow the player to choose how and at what pace they explore the main story you lay out, and allow them to either focus it down or explore the corners of the world first, with bits of worldbuilding all around, until they finally come back to it.
Lockstin came to the same late-1800s age of exploration conclusion too...though his video was hastily put together to release later the same day Legends was announced. I appreciate all the additional history and context That Gaijin added here.
I wasn't thinking they were ninjas ever. I thought this video was going to, say, debunk Lockstin's video on it being late 19th century Japan rather than Feudal Japan. Not about something I've never heard about before. The mistake that they're being called ninja.
Don’t forget the analysis lockstin & Gnoggin did where he explained what specific time period the game legends takes place based on the architecture, clothing, and imported Pokémon. It’s definitely something you can look into and provide further analysis
I can't be the first person to notice, but I just recently finished the main story, and (spoilers?) the story you told about Typhlosion (13:47) rings very similar to the main story's final conflict. A steadily growing storm (the time-space rift present throughout the whole game) coming from the top of a volcano (Mt. Coronet,) which consumed the region (the whole red sky deal) until the benevolent gods (the deity of whichever village's leader you choose to travel with) defeat the angered evil ones. (when the legendary in your possession agrees to "help" you defeat the other one, despite them not actually doing anything) and I can't help being a little sus of the shape of that lake at 13:57, considering where we find Uxie, Azelf, and the pink one.
First of all, when I saw the design of the two protagonist, I didn't think of an outfit of a ninja, I thinking about the style like Tanjiro Of Kimetsu no Yaiba :T
A good thing to keep in mind: The pokemon timeline doesn't match one-to-one with ours. It's directly proven that with Unova alone, not to mention the fact they had advanced civilization with tech, castles, kingdoms, and so on, 5000 years ago in the pokemon world. Yes. it may be based on all this. but it's incredibly likely that it doesn't take place at that exact time. The anime and manga are also different canons, just as a side note, which is shown by various parts of the games- even Legends- often contradicting them.
Pokémon legends seems like story’s of old or as the title says Legends, probably based around different legendaries, maybe a game based on the tapus, Magerna maybe, heck probably zacian and zamazenta, that one makes the most sense
Seeing all of the gaps on that map of Japan just reminds me how much I want a region based on Chugoku and Shikoku. Come on, Gen IX! It’s been over a decade since we’ve seen a new one based on Japan.
This kind of cultural attention and level of worldbuilding is great part of the reason why I still love these games, performance or missing features be dammed.
That was a super interesting video, It was such a wide spectrum of information that you base your research on and it all seemed very plausible. And your speculation on why the starters were chosen was super fascinating. I can tell you worked very hard on this and I very much enjoyed and appreciated this video! Thank you for your dedicated work
Omg, as soon as the utsuro-bune popped up on screen I squeed. For years I've thought about writing a story about it in which it's not so much a UFO as a time machine.
Little Gaijin testing us to make sure we don't immediately focus on the "Which Ninja" videos. Love the talk about how this lines up with the Hokkaido expansion and references one of my favorite anime in Golden Kamuy.
To be fair, lockstin from Gnoggin made a way better theory about it being during the industrial revolution. There are quite a lot of clues along the lines of two of the starters not being local to ingame Japan
this is an awesome video. between this and golden kamuy its nice the ainu are getting more exposure in media. the last appearance i can think of is from princess mononoke and botw link to an extent
Seeing as all the starters inspirations have stories about them associated with gods I say you're most likely correct to why they were selected. I mean this is Pokemon Legends ARCEUS the GOD of the Pokemon world.
*Lillie takes out her journal / dairy and write down a few things and wear a future waifu / Cnythia past look* I’m ready to explore this ancient region!!!
Honestly really looking forward to playing Pokemon Legends: Arceus, As someone who started playing Pokemon when diamond and pearl came out the fact that you get to explore sinnoh from the past is awesome!
"There are tales of monster otters who would shape shift into humans, go in the homes of beautiful maidens, and either kill them, or kidnap them for wives"... And that is why Touhou 17 has a yakuza clan of otters in Hell... Still don't know why their leader is a tortoise dragon.
Typhlosion's Japanese name バクフーン（Bakufuun) actually comes from 爆風（ばくふう（bakufuu)) which is the blast of air caused by explosions In fact they both basically use the same set of words put together Typhoon + Explosion = Typhlosion 爆風（bakufuu) + タイフーン（typhoon) = バクフーン
Everyone talking about how Lockstin was one of the other few poketubers who did research, and while yes I agree... only the first of his videos (taking about the time period of the game) matches the first half of Gaijin's. Gaijin brought up a lot of valid points, and debunked Lockstin's second video (the one about the starters)
I still find it funny that people thought Rowlet, Cyndaquil, and Oshawott were chosen to be the starters for Legends Arceus because they're 'Japanese Inspired' despite the fact that the promotional material literally says that Professor Laventon found these three Pokemon in other regions and brought them here.
Remember In gold and silver there was a person named Kurt who could make pokeballs from Apricorns? What if the balls from the video are the first Apricorn made pokeballs, could this game be where one of Kurt's Ancestors learned to craft pokeballs and passed the knowledge down through his/her family?
Thank you so much for covering this!! And yes, the Sinnoh region is canonically according to game freak, based on the Hokkaido region. 😊 Ah yes, 1860’s... time of the Shinsengumi and the last of the true samurai. 😭 oh my gosh, Hakuouki was so sad... not the most historically accurate but still enjoyable.
Never thought I’d see Little G have a psychotic break. Rants for sure, but this was a whole new level of white hot rage. Hang in there, little man. All this said, great video GG!
I think Bakufuun is from 爆風 (Bakufuu), which means the explosive/tremendous wind, not 幕府 (Bakufu). It is very clear it is in the relation of the name before the evolutions.
7:45 here's my theory on the pokemons there all different eras of pokemon Cyndaquil is a Gameboy era (red blue yellow gold, silver and crystal) Oshawott is the ds era (diamond pearl platinum, black and white and black 2 and white 2) Rowlet is the 3ds era (x ,y sun and moon ultra sun and moon)
I never looked at the trainers as ninjas, but now that's it was pointed out. Yeah I can see why people would think that but really I've never known ninja to wear boots like that unless it wasn't for winter and even then, they're likely at home not on mission. But anyway, it's nice to see more of the Ainu influences since they're not well known outside of mainstream Japan culture media.
I was hoping they bring back the arcon pokeballs and we see a young version of the pokeball maker maybe recruit him into are village. Would love more from that old man.
I've been a big fan of the Ainu people since the mid 90's when I learned that one of my favorite video game characters of all time, Nakoruru from Samurai Shodown, was an Ainu herself. I really do hope this game is based on the Ainu, but I don't really get that impression.
Hey Gaijin, there's this new anime Kemono Jihen that has a lot to do with yokai and other kinds of creatures. I've even noticed several connections to some of the things you've talked about in Yokai Hunters. If you haven't already, you really need to check it out.
I still think Legends will have some kind of Colonists VS Natives theme. Sinnoh, for those of you who don't remember I know it's been a while since Platinum, has ancient ruins (which could potentially pre-date when Legends takes place) and several Pokemon that would imply human involvement (as in Pokemon made by humans or that are byproducts of humans). For locations, there's the Solaceon Town (there's even been ideas that the town shown in the Legends trailer is Solaceon Town; as in DPP it's described as a town that started out as just a road) and the Solaceon Ruins, Celestic Town, the Lost Tower, Snowpoint Temple, Spear Pillar, etc. For Pokemon, there's Spiritomb, Bronzor and Bronzong, the Regis and Regigas, and Unown (I was conflicted about putting Pokemon like the Magnemite line, Rotom, and the Porygon line here; mostly because I'm not sure whether they've been I guess invented yet). Even the games' in-game lore says humans have lived in Sinnoh since its creation. I also think it's kind of odd that we've just seen the one town and nothing else other than the wilds, like maybe they're saving that kind of world or story reveal for later.
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I was watching the age of samurai on Netflix. And it hit me like a ton of bricks black clover does have a lot of Japanese parallels. For one asta has a 5 leaf Clover grimoire. You know who else had a 5 leaf clover as their symbol? Oba Nobunaga. Also he was betrayed by one of his top generals before he could unify Japan. The wizard king was betrayed and killed before he could unify the clover Kingdom. By one of his top captains nonetheless. That was just a few of the things. I really can't recommend enough you watching black clover enough.
Locksin/Gnoggin already did cultural inspirations
@@akumaking1 Hey bro or Sis I don't know which when you are please he already dealt with depression don't pile it on.
I swear between Gaijin Goombah and Lockstin, we'll learn all about the culture orgins of everything in Legends arceus... Thoes two really need to do a colab.
RIGHT!!!??
Totally
NOT GONNA LIKE THATS PRETTY GOOD
Agreed
Watching this after having only seen Lockstin's video, and hearing Goomba's rant, I have to wonder how many of the theory videos are spouting the ninja idea for you to make this big a deal about it.
Well, it does seem like Lockstin is outnumbered by the folks who are saying they're Ninja, especially since the trailer showed the player characters crouching and sneaking in game. So maybe that's it?
I would love to see a colab between the two.
@@Altarahhn yes but locksten scratched the surface and he is a "major" poketuber
@@Altarahhn I never bought that "crouching, sneaking, and dodge rolling equals ninja" BS.
@@cameronbaines3149 Yes, that's true, others like Gaijin, with greater knowledge of Japan, would know more, but all things considered, Lockstin was really close!
I really love how you've grown the Persona of real gaijin and little g to be so diametrically opposed so often it's very entertaining
Funny, the only Pokétuber that I watched a video about this subject was Lockstin and the word ninja was never used once.
But Birdkeepr Toby was all about them. So it's causing issues.
Same. But that's partially cause other Poketubers have kinda gotten click-baity, and there content isn't nearly as fun/interesting or accurate as Gnoggin.
Just because they AREN'T ninja doesn't mean they CAN'T be ninja, is what I say to THAT.
actually he did. At 6:43 - 7:30. I mean in lockstin' video.
Same ive seen two pokétubers and neither said ninja...in fact they said Ainu too. 🤔
His knowledge of ancient Japan's history is so broad
You, get
Oh, hey guy, I’m waiting for the inevitable “why do I see you everywhere” comment
@legion Angel why do i see this guy everywhere?
1860s
"Ancient"
Now all I'm waiting for is a video about the Matagi culture.
Pokémon Legends is honestly the most hyped I've been for Pokémon in years. There's going to be so much to explore and honestly a lot of real-life parallels to examine, more than we've seen already for sure.
Leave it to Gaijin Sensei to educate everyone who things they got it "right" on the "first try."
*Also props to Loggstin for getting it right-ish*
This is me interacting for the Almighty Algorithm-Sama.
The guy from space jam 2?
The UA-cam kami thank you
My japanese history isn't great, but I was confused when people were saying feudal Japan. Like those buildings just don't look that old
Especially the interior room where you get the starters. The Professor is totally a westerner!
The frontier was what I got from legends, don't forget that in Japan there was a time before Hokkaido was settled and it was in retaliation of the Russian czar, the feudal period was less medieval and more psudeo steam age. After the samurai got gunpowder they made guns in the late sengoku period
I would just like to say, Lockstin/Gnoggin did do a proper update video about this stuff so... not totally far off...?
GG subtley acknowledged Lockstin regarding the time period. But, the stuff about the starters in lockstin's second video are not very relevant to the time period or the location involved.
@@nicodalusong149 I’d say they still have relevance. Yes, historically both the samurai and shogunate were well on their way out by this point in time, but culturally both are still HEAVILY romanticized in Japanese pop-culture.
Add that to the fact that your getting them from what looks like an embassy, as he points out, and the theory that the starters both represent the military government of Japan at the time (heavily romanticized, though of note there were plenty of Samurai who sided WITH the Meiji government and served as commanders and officers in the imperial army) and the major powers at play in the area (Kingdom of Hawaii, the US, and Southern Japan) fits pretty well.
@@darkflame9410 I agree with them being romanticized. Rurouni Kenshin and other shows (anime, movies, J-drama and so on) go over this topic quite a bit.
@@darkflame9410 Besides Legends Arceus could have more than one inspiration, like the Kalos Legendary trio were inspired both by Norse and Hindu mythologies.
So far only Gaijin Goombah and Gnoggin have figured out the time frame of this game in a reasonable way.
"One guy has got it right" Yeah Lockstin
He got the time period and the fact they're not ninjas right. Not the rest though.
@@iamspotpanda true
"everyones wrong" including lockstin XP shame he gets lumped in that pile
@Tesla-Effect He was right and wrong, Witch is more that can be said than most people
I thought they were wearing winter clothes and that they are in the time. Right before the dustrial revolution caught up with Japan
How did people think they were Ninja? To me I just thought they were dressed like normal people, like in all of the Pokemon games!
Ya its my first i hear plus was it not mentioned your making the first pokedex i dont know where ninja pop up lol.
@@zerokura I'm guessing the general appearance of the PC's, plus the common association of Scarves and Ninja and the fact that you can perform "stealth captures" (as I like to call them), are what led to this conclusion. But yeah, if you think about it, they're more like hunters or trappers than anything else, just saying.
@@Altarahhn i wonder if black belts force catch pokemon like they throw the ball catch it and run right to the ball than hold it down in their hands so it wont pop open lol
@@zerokura Bro, what!? Now I *have* to see that in-game! 🤣🤣🤣 Make it happen, Game Freak!
Because a lot of the pokemon fan base is retarded.
And here, I thought the starters were good examples of Sky, Sea, and Land, while keeping the standard fire/water/grass trinity that pokemon will probably use until the series dies.
I know not everyone's a history buff, but it still mystifies me how people are mistaking Meiji era for feudal Japan.
Because weebs who only know Naruto
Unfortunately, to a lot of people, there's only "ancient japan" (basically everything before WW2) and "modern japan" (basically everything _after_ WW2).
A real shame, since there's a really rich and well-documented history that a lot of people miss out on.
@@ShermTank7272 By that logic, they must think the American Civil War's ancient history.
Otters have an interesting place in different mythologies. While the Otter in Japan, and more likely the cultural tales of the Ainu (Probably why the Otter is called Ainu in the Element Encyclopedia of Magical Creatures by John and Caitlin Matthews), the Otter is classified as a trickster when it's not being a goofball or disguised to be something more horrific but the Otter is classified very differently in Irish lore, there it is a nearly indestructible warrior that has a single weak point located just beneath one of its arms. At least, that's what my research has yielded, and I think Gaijin Goombah should absolutely pick up that book (if he already hasn't), not only will it have some mythological Japanese creatures and statements about animals and their placement in Japanese lore (which he may or may not know), it also has sections on monsters and creatures from various other cultures, which includes beliefs about certain animals.
Keep in mind when it comes to creative liberties, they're not strictly bound to be accurate at all. The connections can be obscure, surface level, or just none at all.
Technically the trailer never mentioned ninjas, so they are just early pokemon trainers.
The trailer never said that, but a lot of the fanbase are insisting as much. From what I can find, mostly fueled by Lockstin's theory and them taking it as fact, though I doubt he's the only popular UA-camr with that sort of theory.
Edit: Turns out I might have been wrong? Looking at other comments, Lockstin never mentioned ninjas. So I'm even more confused, because aside from hearing people claim his theory is fact, the only bad theory I've heard about the "timing" is that its Cyrus' new world or time travel based, still no mention of ninjas...
@@Kahadi Lockstin did say they look like ninja, he even mentioned how Greninja’s tongue is used as a scarf like the scarfs the trainers have in their designs.
early pokemon trainers with real good dex modifiers
I think it's because of that one jump/roll maneuver we saw, which made people automatically think "ninja," fairly or otherwise.
"kids back in my days would do barrel rolls and cartwheels in the fields. now you can't even jump a ridge without a _TM_ . heh"
Thanks Golden Kamuy for teaching people about Ainu, please have cross promotion so people learn about Hinna Hinna squirrel brain.
I always thought Cynthia was of *Ainu descent* or the Pokemon equivalent. It would even explain her blonde hair and her love for history. Just my personal take.
Don't Ainu people have dark hair?
That's a really I interesting take on Cynthia, I'm on the boat with you, ainu Cynthia sounds perfect
I jumped here for the thumbnail.
I knew someone would notice the similarities between Ainu pokemon protagonist and Asirpa.
I'm so happy that we're talking about the Ainu influences; it's exciting to see that Ainu heritage isn't being forgotten in the shadow of Japan's colonialism. Hopefully this will raise some awareness for the indigenous people of Hokkaido.
"no one is looking into the cultural aspect" umm what about Lockstin?
He is probably just not familiar with Gnoggin. I mean, there are a LOT of different channels on UA-cam.
Agreed. He did a great job with honing in on the time period and even mentioning the explorers and industrial revolution
@@robertgronewold3326 Even if GG was familiar, Lockstin's first video was mostly about when the game takes place. His second video does the whole inital thing everyone else has caught on to regarding the starters. He promised an Ainu-centric video but, from what I know, he hasn't put that one out yet. So if anything GG's out in front regarding that aspect of the game's lore.
Man, Lockstin got to basically the same conclusion almost immediately after the trailer dropped, and from basically a different angle. It's cool to see how much went into this game culturally and historically!
Fun fact: I was already familiar with the mythical role of owls in Ainu culture.
Another Fun Fact: the most common owl species in Finland also live in Japan. I was very surprised when I learned that.
I'm really happy that series such as Golden Kamuy and the Pokemon franchise are bringing Ainu culture and folklore to a wider audience. It's really a cool and beautiful culture and history and I'm excited to learn more about it!
Folklore that's gonna cloud y'all judgement to hide shitty game design.
It's great to seeing more Ainu representation in Japanese media. It's one of those facets of Japan that we never really touched upon that much.
@@prexp9026 what is going to happen in future chapter of Golden Kamuy
Saichi sees a woman in the distance and she has long dark hair, dark blue eyes and pale skin and wears traditional Ainu clothing. He can't recognise her after 10 years have passed, but she is the same woman that saved his butt from a bear, but 10 years older. Saichi recognise Asirpa right away and runs happily towards her. He notices she is developed and grown up: beautiful, seductive, flirty, alluring, moderatelly voluptuous slim Ainu lady with D cup breasts. Asirpa seductevelly calls Saichi 'snow hunk' because of his broad muscular athletic physique and kisses him into cheek. Then his j*nk hardens upon Asirpa winking seductevelly at him ❄☃️⛄🌨🐰🦌🍒🍓🍫🍷💋🌹
That thumbnail is godly lmao. Golden kamuy is such a underrated gem.
I honestly think that it comes down to ninja being more widely recognized and selling better than Ainu. I’ll be honest, until golden kamui I wasn’t even aware of the Ainu people and culture at all. On the other hand, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn’t know what a (pop culture) ninja is. Even if the labeling is wrong, the effort that went into researching and portraying the traditions of the Ainu is worth giving credit to. Marketing teams aside, I am really excited to see a game that does go the extra distance in terms of cultural inspirations.
Have you seen Lockstin and Gnoggins video of this subject? It's pretty great.
Just because it sorta look like a ninja and but the environment breath differently...
It’s doesn’t mean Japan / Ninja but Hokkaido.
''Scully I'm telling you these creatures came from space."
"Mulder those are Pokémon they aren't even real."
If pokémon aren't real, than give me the evidence that Space is real
You telling me Samurott got that BIG SWORD ENERGY!?!
I'm really surprised you've never talked about the Yakuza series yet it seems like you would love the series and it's ancient Japan spin-offs
Did you not see Lockstin’s video? He was spot on.
Ikr
Gnoggin should get done credit here
I doubt GG saw his video, but I'm glad to see they agree. Two independent researchers coming to the same conclusion is very likely when they both put in so much effort.
I mean, he cited the person who he got a wealth of knowledge from on this topic. The cross examination of what the inspirations could be, along with learning about all these countries is the best thing about these channels.😊
@@PlaneswalkerTARDIS
Oh, yes, there was no master mind behind the two.
Ah Golden Kamui, the anime that made everyone like ainu culture.
Your insight into Ainu history and culture turned this video into a homerun. Most of your speculation is more or less on-point. The only one that's maybe not quite there is how Pokeballs are made from Apricorns and Tumblestones, but other than that you're absolutely right. It does seem that the game takes place closer to late Meiji or Taisho era, but Pokemon is always a little vague and flexible as far as exact year goes.
So I just looked up the Ainu and they were assimilated into the Japanese people during the Meiji Restoration much like how many western civilizations did to other indigenous peoples. Guess western imperialism really impacted Japanese culture in all of the wrong ways.
I didn’t think ninja when I first saw Pokémon legends. The first thing that came to my mind was ancient medieval Japan.
Between this and Lockstin's video, I am now fully convinced that the game is set in the Pokémon world's equivalent of our mid-to-late 1800s.
One thing I would like to note is that people are saying that making the first Pokedex is a retcon because "Oak made the first Pokedex in Red/Green/Blue/Yellow"
But this isn't the case: he made the first ELECTRONIC Pokedex: as stated when he gives it to you. Before then, everyone had to manually write everything down. Same thing with Pokeballs: the modern Pokeball as we see it in games is something that only came into being within the last 50 years, with many older Pokemon trainers such as Dreydan of the Unova region and Kurt of the Johto region stating that before then people either had to use apriballs (which would take an entire day to make a handful of balls using modern techniques and technology, and only one at a time if that artisan didnt have an assistant to help them, so just imagine how long it would take before people had all the modern gizmos of modern-era Pokemon) or they had to literally duke it out, Human v Pokemon, to win that Pokemon's trust and have it willing follow them in a sort of Student-Sensei martial artist relationship. Dreydan only put his Pokemon in Pokeballs a few years prior to the events of Black and white, implying that Unova didnt even have access to modern Pokeballs until fairly recently as they did not have a company that produces them like they do in Kanto, Hoenn, and Kalos until the Battle Company was founded in Castellia to produce them and other battle items for trainer consumption. As someone who absolutely adores finding all the hidden lore and history of the Pokemon world, I am _VERY_ excited for Legends.
I’m really exited for this game, mostly because of the culture, but also I want to capture GOD
People: I seeing ninjas everywhere
Ninjas: just as planned
The thing that annoyed me about Legends was people crying how the trailers are awesome and how SWSH was not this.
And I always remind them about trailers with this little name: Watch_Dogs.
And I keep reminding people about how many handhelds it took for GameFreak to master sprites and put out Black and White. They will get to that point eventually with 3D.
@@nicodalusong149 Yes. It bothers me so much. I liked SWSH but apparently that is not good because its not this or Pokemon Snap.
I believe SWSH were the prototype for this. The wild area is basically a miniature version of an open-world Pokémon game, and the DLCs doubled down on that. The main complaint I've seen about that concept was that it felt too small and cramped - which is exactly the issue you want to have if you plan to go bigger.
I'm cautiously optimistic about it. The only things they could really screw up with this concept is to make it too linear or too boring/empty. Despite the many jokes about the similar look, I think they can't go wrong by leaning heavily on Breath of the Wild - it's "play your way" gameplay style is a great way to set up an open world game (and BotW's success shows it). Allow the player to choose how and at what pace they explore the main story you lay out, and allow them to either focus it down or explore the corners of the world first, with bits of worldbuilding all around, until they finally come back to it.
Lockstin came to the same late-1800s age of exploration conclusion too...though his video was hastily put together to release later the same day Legends was announced. I appreciate all the additional history and context That Gaijin added here.
Man, the starters discussion feels like the loudest "um, actually..." I may have ever heard.
I wasn't thinking they were ninjas ever. I thought this video was going to, say, debunk Lockstin's video on it being late 19th century Japan rather than Feudal Japan. Not about something I've never heard about before. The mistake that they're being called ninja.
Don’t forget the analysis lockstin & Gnoggin did where he explained what specific time period the game legends takes place based on the architecture, clothing, and imported Pokémon. It’s definitely something you can look into and provide further analysis
Yeah!
I can't be the first person to notice, but I just recently finished the main story, and (spoilers?) the story you told about Typhlosion (13:47) rings very similar to the main story's final conflict. A steadily growing storm (the time-space rift present throughout the whole game) coming from the top of a volcano (Mt. Coronet,) which consumed the region (the whole red sky deal) until the benevolent gods (the deity of whichever village's leader you choose to travel with) defeat the angered evil ones. (when the legendary in your possession agrees to "help" you defeat the other one, despite them not actually doing anything)
and I can't help being a little sus of the shape of that lake at 13:57, considering where we find Uxie, Azelf, and the pink one.
This game is gonna be fun.
Also, I was waiting for you to do this video once I saw it was going to take place in feudal Japan.
First of all, when I saw the design of the two protagonist, I didn't think of an outfit of a ninja, I thinking about the style like Tanjiro Of Kimetsu no Yaiba
:T
*Sees the thumbnail*
Gaijin do you want to talk about Golden Kamuy?
Because THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
A good thing to keep in mind: The pokemon timeline doesn't match one-to-one with ours. It's directly proven that with Unova alone, not to mention the fact they had advanced civilization with tech, castles, kingdoms, and so on, 5000 years ago in the pokemon world.
Yes. it may be based on all this. but it's incredibly likely that it doesn't take place at that exact time.
The anime and manga are also different canons, just as a side note, which is shown by various parts of the games- even Legends- often contradicting them.
Pokémon legends seems like story’s of old or as the title says Legends, probably based around different legendaries, maybe a game based on the tapus, Magerna maybe, heck probably zacian and zamazenta, that one makes the most sense
Seeing all of the gaps on that map of Japan just reminds me how much I want a region based on Chugoku and Shikoku. Come on, Gen IX! It’s been over a decade since we’ve seen a new one based on Japan.
This kind of cultural attention and level of worldbuilding is great part of the reason why I still love these games, performance or missing features be dammed.
I don't really hear about the Ainu too often. Really cool stuff!
That was a super interesting video, It was such a wide spectrum of information that you base your research on and it all seemed very plausible. And your speculation on why the starters were chosen was super fascinating. I can tell you worked very hard on this and I very much enjoyed and appreciated this video! Thank you for your dedicated work
Omg, as soon as the utsuro-bune popped up on screen I squeed. For years I've thought about writing a story about it in which it's not so much a UFO as a time machine.
Little Gaijin testing us to make sure we don't immediately focus on the "Which Ninja" videos. Love the talk about how this lines up with the Hokkaido expansion and references one of my favorite anime in Golden Kamuy.
To be fair, lockstin from Gnoggin made a way better theory about it being during the industrial revolution. There are quite a lot of clues along the lines of two of the starters not being local to ingame Japan
GG explains the possibke inspiration of the lore and culture of the game.
Me when he gets to the pokeball: heh.... Pokeballs have a chimney.
Im glad Goombah is still making content. Too many of the channels/creators i watched as a kid have fallen off..
I great to see more Ainu representation in Japanese media. They don't get talked alot that often.
this is an awesome video. between this and golden kamuy its nice the ainu are getting more exposure in media.
the last appearance i can think of is from princess mononoke and botw link to an extent
Watching this, I found out that one of my ancestors were the pioneers who explored Hokkaido during the Meiji restoration
Seeing as all the starters inspirations have stories about them associated with gods I say you're most likely correct to why they were selected. I mean this is Pokemon Legends ARCEUS the GOD of the Pokemon world.
*Lillie takes out her journal / dairy and write down a few things and wear a future waifu / Cnythia past look*
I’m ready to explore this ancient region!!!
Does Aether have a Time Machine?
@@matthewwilliams8267 Yes
@@WarmLillie then I'm using it to go back to BW release and anti-bomb the games release.
Honestly really looking forward to playing Pokemon Legends: Arceus, As someone who started playing Pokemon when diamond and pearl came out the fact that you get to explore sinnoh from the past is awesome!
Man this was a cool video. It makes me want the game even more. Especially since when we're gonna be pokemon Pioneers
"There are tales of monster otters who would shape shift into humans, go in the homes of beautiful maidens, and either kill them, or kidnap them for wives"...
And that is why Touhou 17 has a yakuza clan of otters in Hell... Still don't know why their leader is a tortoise dragon.
Typhlosion's Japanese name バクフーン（Bakufuun) actually comes from 爆風（ばくふう（bakufuu)) which is the blast of air caused by explosions
In fact they both basically use the same set of words put together
Typhoon + Explosion = Typhlosion
爆風（bakufuu) + タイフーン（typhoon) = バクフーン
Fun Fact: the japanese word for Typhoon is 台風（taifuu) which as you may be able to tell, comes from the word Typhoon
I mean, my first instinct was that the outfit looked more like Ashitaka's outfit from Princess Mononoke than a ninja outfit.
You know, i feel like Lockstin got it decently right on the timeline if you wanna check that out ;)
Everyone talking about how Lockstin was one of the other few poketubers who did research, and while yes I agree... only the first of his videos (taking about the time period of the game) matches the first half of Gaijin's. Gaijin brought up a lot of valid points, and debunked Lockstin's second video (the one about the starters)
I still find it funny that people thought Rowlet, Cyndaquil, and Oshawott were chosen to be the starters for Legends Arceus because they're 'Japanese Inspired' despite the fact that the promotional material literally says that Professor Laventon found these three Pokemon in other regions and brought them here.
Remember In gold and silver there was a person named Kurt who could make pokeballs from Apricorns? What if the balls from the video are the first Apricorn made pokeballs, could this game be where one of Kurt's Ancestors learned to craft pokeballs and passed the knowledge down through his/her family?
Thank you so much for covering this!! And yes, the Sinnoh region is canonically according to game freak, based on the Hokkaido region. 😊
Ah yes, 1860’s... time of the Shinsengumi and the last of the true samurai. 😭 oh my gosh, Hakuouki was so sad... not the most historically accurate but still enjoyable.
Never thought I’d see Little G have a psychotic break. Rants for sure, but this was a whole new level of white hot rage.
Hang in there, little man.
All this said, great video GG!
what if both is the insperation game freek love combining ideas and things in new and intresting ways
I think Bakufuun is from 爆風 (Bakufuu), which means the explosive/tremendous wind, not 幕府 (Bakufu). It is very clear it is in the relation of the name before the evolutions.
Now I wanna see a collab between Gaijin and Lockstin.😄
Goombah was being too history horni and got bonked
7:45 here's my theory on the pokemons there all different eras of pokemon
Cyndaquil is a Gameboy era (red blue yellow gold, silver and crystal)
Oshawott is the ds era (diamond pearl platinum, black and white and black 2 and white 2)
Rowlet is the 3ds era (x ,y sun and moon ultra sun and moon)
Thank God the moment I saw legends I instantly thought of the ainu glad I'm not the only one.
I never looked at the trainers as ninjas, but now that's it was pointed out. Yeah I can see why people would think that but really I've never known ninja to wear boots like that unless it wasn't for winter and even then, they're likely at home not on mission. But anyway, it's nice to see more of the Ainu influences since they're not well known outside of mainstream Japan culture media.
Seeing the Golden Kamuy faces make me happy.
Oh my god it's a Golden Kamuy reference!
I was hoping they bring back the arcon pokeballs and we see a young version of the pokeball maker maybe recruit him into are village. Would love more from that old man.
These might still be acorn balls. This being a more open game, we'll probably have to find the acorns to make more balls.
God bless this, I needed this video even though I didnt know I needed it
Golden Kamuy references in the thumbnails, I arrive.
14:49 The wood isn't really surprising. Kurt makes Balls out of Apricorns after all.
Im just now learning about this new pokemon entry, now Im hyped!
ive seen 1 poketuber get it right: lockstin & gnoggin
Indeed!
Goomba being mad in the start seemed like he had too much coffee XD
I've been a big fan of the Ainu people since the mid 90's when I learned that one of my favorite video game characters of all time, Nakoruru from Samurai Shodown, was an Ainu herself. I really do hope this game is based on the Ainu, but I don't really get that impression.
Hey Gaijin, there's this new anime Kemono Jihen that has a lot to do with yokai and other kinds of creatures. I've even noticed several connections to some of the things you've talked about in Yokai Hunters. If you haven't already, you really need to check it out.
Really went hard with Lil G in the intro for this one.
I still think Legends will have some kind of Colonists VS Natives theme. Sinnoh, for those of you who don't remember I know it's been a while since Platinum, has ancient ruins (which could potentially pre-date when Legends takes place) and several Pokemon that would imply human involvement (as in Pokemon made by humans or that are byproducts of humans). For locations, there's the Solaceon Town (there's even been ideas that the town shown in the Legends trailer is Solaceon Town; as in DPP it's described as a town that started out as just a road) and the Solaceon Ruins, Celestic Town, the Lost Tower, Snowpoint Temple, Spear Pillar, etc. For Pokemon, there's Spiritomb, Bronzor and Bronzong, the Regis and Regigas, and Unown (I was conflicted about putting Pokemon like the Magnemite line, Rotom, and the Porygon line here; mostly because I'm not sure whether they've been I guess invented yet). Even the games' in-game lore says humans have lived in Sinnoh since its creation. I also think it's kind of odd that we've just seen the one town and nothing else other than the wilds, like maybe they're saving that kind of world or story reveal for later.