The whole time I was talking to the salesman, I thought, this guy used to be a used car salesman. Used all the same tactics. Started out at $26k then dropped down to $23 with rebates. 10% off for paying cash upfront. He then asks, what number were you thinking... I threw $17k at him. He had to call his manager but was able to do it. Crazy... I felt violated when he left. They sent me a quote to replace the blower capacitor for $420. A $15 part. Thanks for the honest videos
Yeah you might as well go buy a car. I will only ever pay 5k at most for a small sized system to 10k for larger units. Anything else is highway robbery.
Buy it and install it yourself. Perfectly legal. You wont have to pay for contractors insurance, health insurance, auto insurance, fuel, tires, office help, shop rental, code compliance, training, uniforms, licensing, EPA compliance, equipment, 20 thousand dollars in tools, marketing, payroll, Federal taxes, state taxes, continuing education or a hundred other things. It will probably only last 5 years with your DYI install. Just try not burn down or flood your house, or electrocute yourself while doing so.
I recently had to replace my heating and AC unit. I needed a 2 ton 16 seer unit. I had 5 contractors come to my home and I got prices from 5700 to 14,000 dollars. Naturally people would go with the 5700 system but this contractor was hard to contact so I said if they are this hard to contact then if something is wrong with the system then I could not get in contact with them. Bottom line the cheapest price may not always be the best price.
I'd say the cheapest price is almost always NOT the best price and there are usually reasons for them being cheap. Low quality and substandard work, or they know they won't stand behind it, and/or they have a poor reputation and must low-ball a quote just to get any work at all.
Doesn't matter in my case. I couldn't afford either of them so I'd have to go with window units. They have literally priced themselves out of most people's budgets. 5k is the most I will ever spend on something like this. Anything more is either highway robbery or simply something that is no longer attainable or reasonable.
Great video. I swapped out a 3.5T/80k gas system in July 2018. My local small proprietor a/c guy did the job for $5,650 complete using Goodman equipment which was what I had previously. I live in the San Diego area so the equipment is drop shipped from Los Angeles to a local HVAC wearhouse . Two techs RNR’d the indoor and outdoor components in one day., and I have been pleased. I got a total of three quotes including Home Depot at $11,500, and Lowes at $19,000. Both Big Box stores sent out two sales people with fancy computer presentations. You see where this is going, right…high pressure sales. My recommendation to you followers is never go with big companies who advertise, it needs to be paid for somehow.
All of the HVAC guys do some sort of advertising. The little ones can be unreliable, inexperienced, understaffed, and gone the next day. I want someone I can go to to fix something they broke.
@@flexor212000then you most definitely don’t want to go through a big box store for hvac equipment or any trades work for that matter. Small family owned local reputable businesses would be your best bet.
A lot of times the sales person knows you are over a barrel with a down system. I went out and bought 2 spare units (1 window and 1 portable). This ensures I'm coming to the table and I'm not on fire hot, with a grumpy family. Allows me to take my time and make a good decision.
I did the same thing when mine went out 3 weeks ago. I tore out my unit and getting ready to put in an air handler in another month. Only concerned with heat coming up this winter for now. The best time to replace a system is when everyone thinks you don’t need one. The worst time is when you have to.
Mine got hit by a surge from lightning. I'm working with insurance, it's gonna take at least a month. I had one backup window unit and I went and bought another. I bought time for about $250. If more people did this so they made sure they got a good deal they'd be better off.
!00% spot on, I am a vetran and just quit a company because of alot of the things you just mentioned, I can do people right and make a good enough living myself. I dont need the big giant company focussed on sales. great video.
Upgraded to a Lennox heat pump 6 years ago. Thought it was top of the line. Already have paid over 20% of the original cost in repairs, that, of course, were not covered by the warranty.
Just received one quote today for two units in a 3,200 SF home with mid line quality Lennox. The first choice was $62,000 down to $39,000 for the basic two stage gas furnace and 16 SEER AC units, a 2 & 4 ton units. A bit obscene. Needless to say, will be taking more bids. I think that a lot of HVAC companies look at certain addresses and add the "millionaire" charge.
Man if I was in Texas I would go with you guys - thanks for the insights and willing ness to be open and post prices on your website. It helps to know what to expect when I go for quotes. Heroes don't always wear capes!
just got quoted roughly $17k for a seer 17 system. Sure wish I could pinpoint exactly what happened around 3 years ago when prices of EVERYTHING started to skyrocket.
I’m in Southern California, i gathered all information from the unit i want to replace, thought i would get a quote over the phone…sadly no one gave me any quotes. I scheduled a couple companies to come by. Good to know there are still good honest companies like yours.
Thank you so much for this video, I just had to purchase a new system and could not find any decent pricing info online after the fact and figured that I may have overpaid even though I was dealing with a very reputable company. When I used the Atlas build your system it showed that the price was very fair and that makes me feel good about the whole purchase.
I have worked on automotive a/c before so I understand how it works. I bought a house 3 years ago and I have watched a lot of hvac videos. I decided to install a $300 2 ton Rheem n-coil evaporator and a $1850 2 ton Goodman condenser. The a/c didn’t cool well because the Rheem txv flowed too much refrigerant. I had to install a smaller piston to restrict the flow.
You should always instaql a system designed for each other never a Goodman I’ve installed rheem set up and great value and works great Bugget heating and cooling on line could have sold you a complete set for 3000 and install you self
@@curtisendicott5989 I don't believe you have ever installed an a/c system in your life. Any brand condenser will work with any evaporator. Goodman units are good. I see them everywhere. I spent less than $3,000.
I think more and more people are considering installing hvac themselves. A gas furnace appears to be a pretty easy installation if you are reasonably handy. AC’s are doable with more skill and a willingness to buy about a grand worth of tools, from what I can tell. And if you’re a real estate investor (I’m looking at replacing up to 4 hvac systems in the next few years) it seems to be a no brainer to take the time to learn these skills.
Agreed, plus if you do it yourself it will be done with care. Some of the HVAC people out there today are straight up hacks. I have started doing my own repairs, it ain't that hard.
Great info, thanks. Checked your price list and saw it is from end of 2022, I expect things are a bit pricier now. Also, just had a strange experience with a sales rep. I signed with a digital signature onto his Ipad to order a split system. After a day or so, I had not received my copy of my order via email as promised. I contacted to get the info and was surprised to read it was for a different brand with less features that I thought I was getting. I cancelled under the three day rescission law in Florida but thought you may mention what "paperwork" customers should receive at time of ordering a system. Thank you.
In QC we have a $5500 grant to upgrade an A/C to heat pump for those with natural gas furnaces. They want to cut GHGs. Sounds good, right? I just got two quotes and the heat pump installed is $11,000. Just a heat pump seer 2 inverter energy rating 21. Basically everyone doubled their price since the grant was available
Found all your videos useful. I'm looking to replace a single stage unit that is leaking refrigerant and would like it to be able to start on my battery backup, if necessary. Would love to hear more about inrush/locked rotor amps, and experiences with startup on an inverter. Another idea for a topic would be matching to existing furnace. When do you need to match, or at least should match, a furnace when upgrading the AC from say a single stage to 2-stage or variable speed AC Unit? context: 5600 sq ft, three story home
Great informative video and timely for me actually! I just got a quote to replace my (Massachusetts) 32 year old AC system and I have another guy coming tomorrow for a 2nd quote. The 1st guy quoted me this: "Basic Goodman 3 ton 14 SEER AC unit with Basis ADP air handler, keep existing copper line set, New Zone panel (existing dampers stay, or, add $600 to replace the two dampers. $9,900." I'm thinking that's A LOT of money for a run of the mill budget AC system. I looked online at your pricing in TX and didn't notice the air handler listed in your pricing. I have a Buderus oil-fed furnace hydro air HVAC system. I'd be interested to hear your (or anyone's) thoughts on the pricing I was given. Thanks!
Hey man, I really like your vids and appreciate the info. I do have one criticism... Your sound is quite a bit low. I have my speakers set to high and it's still a challenge to hear you. The quality is great, but the sound is just low.
Wow! I just checked the price on the Goodman HVAC I purchased and installed two years ago for $2990. It's now $4700, a 56% increase! This is from HVAC Direct. That's way more than the inflation rate.
@@DSC800 I replaced ours last December including a new lineset and feel glad that I did. There were two price increases during 2021 and there has been four price increases for 2022. I'm waiting for all this new equipment that has been mandated to begin rolling out beginning January 1st. What the cost will be and the problems associated with it. Kind of like a new vehicle model; there will be recalls.
Inflation rate is a lie. Plain and simple. My American standard equipment has increased 50% in the last two years. You can thank your greedy CEOs in suit wearing executives in the USA for outsourcing America. They will never lower prices because they like living high on the hog.
It’s pricing like this that has driven me to doing so much DIY. But I’m fortunate. I learn things relatively easy and there is a lot of information and manufacturers training online (but read the comments - bad UA-cam videos get crucified). I always pull a permit so it’s inspected. And I’m retired, so I have the time.
Another great and informative video (I'm binge watching you). I've no plans on moving to Texas but if you decided to move to Ontario Canada I'd buy from your company. Cheers.
Best strategy is ask they to break down equipment and labor pricing. They will get u the equipment price and estimate hrs and hour rate for the jobs. That is how u can get best price.
You'll never find anyone that way. None of your business what somebody makes off a project. You want those figures so you can dissect and beat them down on price.
I live Northwest of Washington DC area and last week I had to replace my Goodman of 16 years my cost was 8 grand for a Carrier unit with a in wall air handler that also makes heat from my hot water tank the company I went with is presidential heating and air a carrier authorization dealer
I am in Los Angeles and been getting quotes for around 22K for new install (no current central air system) of the Daikin Fit (3 Ton) for 1200 sqft home. I am interested in the FIt mainly due to the side exhaust design and not having much yard space. It also seems to have good reviews on UA-cam. I am guessing some of the 22K is electrical work (no 240 circuits yet).. but looking at your prices I don't see any mention in the "New AC Unit Costs" about the price including any electrical work.. the list of "what is included" below the "How Much Does a new AC Unit Cost?" looks like it is for a replacement as I don't see any mention of electrical or running ducts (how many) etc etc. Do your prices include electrical work? Also If anyone knows of other makes\models of heat pumps with the same form factor (side exhaust) as the Fit I would be very interested to check them out.
God tips. Questions: What’s the best way to ensure that I have a senior tech (versus junior tech) on the install? Are new line sets typically included in replacement quotes? Thanks.
Boo. Senior vs Junior tech? You suck. As a teacher I constantly see senior techs with bad habits that'll reduce the life of your system- not flowing nitrogen while brazing, not taking the vacuum below 500 microns, throwing shit together and saying "good enough." It's the younger guys that had to learn the most current rules and regulations so it's easiest for them to install systems to code. Plus the ones I know are usually more gung-ho I hope you got a "senior" tech for your install
So what I want to know is how much an hour do these people charge to install a HVAC system?The cost is all added in with the price so how do we know if we are getting screwed?How can we know the true price of the system??I know they charge by where you live and the cost of the houses in your neighborhood..
Exactly. The last time I asked an HVAC company to break down the estimate into individual parts cost and labor hours all they could tell me was, "Well we go by the book" I don't have the book you dummies! That's why I'm asking for a complete breakdown! 🙄
It depends on the labor costs in the area and the brands of equipment available . It can vary wildly depending on where you live, even within the same state. Some older homes also pose challenges with regards to permits, existing electrical or plumbing and where the equipment is located. Attics, crawl spaces and homes with rooftop units can forget about saving money on replacement installations. With that said, Guaranteed than any of those less than 9k$ quotes are made up of RUUD, Goodman, Comfortmaker, Rheem, Payne or, at best, Bryant equipment. Ain’t no way anybody will sell non off-brands of Carrier, Trane or Lennox for cheaper. Not with how much it costs to maintain their “certifications” to be able to buy and sell said equipment. Not that you would want to purchase it either. There have been so many quality control issues with new equipment on damn-near every manufacturer out there, that you may as well just get the cheapest trash that you can find and have it installed as best it can. It will end up costing just as much in repairs and band-aids anyway.
I am so tired of dealing with dishonest ac techs ! I’m switching to window units in my rentals . They are now efficient and quiet lasting about ten years .
I have had 4 estimates in Phila. I have two 53 yr old furnaces. No AC. All 4 estimates were different, different equipment, different tonnage, price from 12,000 to 270000
I'm in Philadelphia myself I'm in the market for a new hvac system the highest price I've got was 15k 25k but I'm working with a co. Right now that's given me 3 quotes 10k 9400k 7500k can you lmk Ty
WIll this unit work on AC and heat or only AC? I need one that covers both and am curious about cost. My rental property is in Boston which is an extremely expensive city. The duct work is already there.
Needed to watch this got new house hvac is as old as me(30) Home Depot had a free quote they said 10k scared my brother off but I told him to check small businesses because I saw a short talking about it
In your linked prices for a new Air Conditioning system are you including both the condenser unit and the evaporator coil? What about the thermostat? For example, the average unit for 2.5 ton you list is $3,746. Which of the three is included?
California is so much higher than your company, so sad you are not in my area! Low end is $20,000 to $13,000, and high end was $30,000 - $16,000 out of four different company quotes.
What brand do you sell? We offer 3 different brands, and our lennox base system does come up to about 10-11k. Lennox prices have just gotten outrageous, hence why we're offering 2 lower end brands now.
I had an ac guy other day say the one stage was no longer allowed hmmm. Lennox is what I have now lower end model coils last 3 years at best for this one ugh
I work for an HVAC company and thanks for first pointing out the equipment price increases. As far as contractor pricing, there are some that will try to go the salesman, financing pricing route, but not most in my area (we don't). Quotes over the phone can't be trusted if given at all, especially if the company hasn't been to your house. They have zero idea of how well or how poorly your previous system was installed, if your ductwork is adequate or if you cheaped out before. Even if your current system was sized right. For pricing, just ask, if someone is cheap, why? Is it because they need the work because they don't have much because of a poor reputation? Are they super expensive because they are putting you in the front of the line ahead other installs that have been waiting? Also in my area there is a severe shortage of HVAC workers for most companies, meaning the workers in general have higher labor costs to retain them (and as a result you may have a backlog of installations). Those are just a few things to think about. Just be smart about your quotes, and remember thare are valid reasons for some prices and in other cases somewhat greedy ones.
My two family house was built in 1962. Took 9 years for the owner to get central air units in both floors. Both handlers are the original from 1971. Both condensers were changed in late 90's. All still function well today.
watch for old asbestosis, my Uncle owned a heating and AC company in the Dallas area and it killed him... Ralph E. Turner, 68, owner of Regional Heating and AC, passed away Sunday, Nov. 14, 2010, after a short illness with mesothelioma.
It's always the contractor trying to swindle the customer. The HVAC guy I brought today wanted to charge me 7k... For a less than 1000sf home. I have the ducts and a heating system with a fan and furnace installed etc The Goodman unit he wants to bring costs $1,500. So his labor alone is $5,500 for about 4 hours of work. Now I'm looking for an HVAC guy through a friend because I'm going to buy the unit by myself (through the licensed HVAC guy) then get my own electrician guy and that's it.
They will give you a load of shit why it cost so much to do their training and permits and vehicle cost I said I don’t want to buy your vehicle I just want to be comfortable
These are great videos, I was in a/c for 30 years, 20 years ago. I need a new system I’ve got some price’s on a 3 ton system (gas) would like to 14-16 seer. What about a contractor that charge’s for coming to give you a price but will take that charge off if they do the job? Thanks
I just had a 80k btu carrier two stage high efficiency furnace, 3 ton 14 seer ac and a humidifier installed for 7200. This included 700 off under the carrier heat exchanger program so felt pretty good about the package.
@@landcruiser7936 yeah, mutually beneficial. You got a decent price and he got an older 14 SEER out of inventory. For your shorter season I’d have done the same 👍🏽
1 man, 6-8 hrs with a profit of 1100.00. He can afford that. Problem is a company with trucks, workers and overhead cannot cone close to that, they would be doing it for free???
I am wanting to buy the carrier 24 Seer Infinity Series with matching air handler. This is the best heat pump carrier has at the moment the cheapest I can find is 14,571 I had three estimates. This is with new lines and a 5-inch filter. I live in Indiana. Thank you
I have gotten 6 quotes for a 2 ton 15.5 SEER HSP 8.2 single stage Heatpump from anywhere $7,500 to $12,000 (installed for 6 - 8hrs of labor) in the Orlando area despite the actual AC (Condenser/Air handler/ 50' copper line/10kw heat strip/programable themo) only costing $3,200 - 3,800. Toyota had that scam of 0% for 5yrs but they tack on an extra $2,500 - 3,000 on to the price (even with my 820 credit); I just went with my PenFed CU 1.49% for 3yrs...cost me an extra $550 over that time frame back in 2018.
the equipment may cost 3800.00 dollars but there are another 3-400 dollars in misc parts needed to install a system plus tax. then you have to pay the install crew they dont come cheap. then if you have an office with a staff to answer phones and do the books you have to pay them. the over head to run a company. some money to advertise. insurance gas ect. oh yea you might wanna make a profit too. so yea thats why systems cost so much now.
@@curtisendicott5989Technically yes but when it’s 30 degree in Tampa and your unit outside doesn’t come on for some reason? It’s called emergency heat and it’s works, the heater itself is 75-100 dollars at cost definitely worth putting in when replacing a system
I guess this prices are all over i got qute today to replace outside condenser unit for 1800 and if inside home coils needs to be replaced then it will all out the door cost ve $2700 thats not bad. Lowes selling 2ton unit for $1200 so it is reasonable to be under $2k (for outsidr unit)to charge from service company.
Mostly A/C content these videos... 15 below here in Wisconsin Thursday night. I would consider to your "opinion" if you could install and keep up with winter service calls in this region. Oh, by the way, they're building new homes here in Madison WI right now. Just the other day I saw guys on a pump jacks hanging siding - wind chills well below zero. The HVAC truck was parked outside. Doing duct work in a freeze and setting furnaces.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF BUYING AC EQUIPMENT off the internet or thru local ads ? ...... I notice several people selling AC equipment on the internet ....... some ads say they have several units that were rebuilt or for some other reason they how have units that were purchased in bulk for a contractor and didn't use
Depends what brand/ indoor unit they're proposing by overall yeah, heat pumps had some of the highest increases lately. For anything worth having in your home you plan to spend next 10 years in, 16-18 is generally correct.
Hey Kenneth! Can you start a Georgia based company? I am looking online at your prices and the best I can tell is that you are selling the same Lennox system I just got a quote for for several thousand dollars less.
I have a 30-year-old Rheem Furnace/air-conditioning split system, it is operational. I want to get it replaced while there is no urgency hopefully to save cost. Here is my dilemma. I want to buy my new hvac system thru Home Depot they will deliver the new unit to the store or to my home. However, when I contact a HVAC business, they seem uninterested in taking the installation work. Apparently not enough Windfall profit. I simply want a change out of the old unit for the new one. Everything is already in place. Your thoughts on what the problem might be? Btw, I would support a full inspection in case any unseen cost issues arise.
Will have to hire a small time guy/company. Reputable companies offer warranties on equipment and labor through them at no cost so they won't take that liability
my parents ac unit stopped working and they had a new one installed, and im worried that they were overcharged. i looked at the invoice and they were charged a little over $13,000 for a new ac unit and thermostat. were they overcharged and if so would they be able to file a lawsuit?
If it was $13,000 just for the condenser, they were badly overcharged. I suspect the vendors know that when a critical and timely replacement needs to be done, they will charge top dollar. By comparison, we're getting a top of the line, 20 SEER variable speed, 3 ton condensor, and 80,000 btu 2 stage furnace (80% efficiency) for $13,000.
A strategy i did was when i got a quote that was signigantly lower than what i was told over the phone i had the other companies paperwork on my tbsle when the guy came in. Prices right there to let him know he was already over 2k higher than the last guy. I was also open about getting quotes. I also told this company o had already got all the quotes i wanted when they called me from Angies list. And i made them convince me to come by. I did okay. Got a 2.5 ton 16 seer single stage goodman and a 80% furnace for 7500 after tax.
Just got a quote of $27,976 for a American Standard Gold 4 ton, 2 stage, 16 seer, 8.1 HSPF2 heat pump, with new evap coil, and 4 ton 80K BTU 2 stage propane furnace replacements... I.e. everything in... just replace the existing systems. Unreal!!
How many viewers think that businesses are using "inflation" as an excuse to raise prices when they really don't have to. I suspect, human nature being what it is, many, if not most do.
Maybe not small companies but big companies sure as hell are. If inflation was hurting them so bad they wouldn't be telling their shareholders that they're having record profits. Companies can't legally lie to shareholders
@@Pseudify That would mean they lost or made the same amount of money. We now know that they posted record profits. Them raising prices was just taking advantage of the situation
@@Jacob-yz5cb. What do you think keeps prices in check in the first place? If businesses are all greedy as you seem to be claiming, then why wouldn’t they just keep raising their prices? I think you know the answer to that. The fact of the matter is, a business has a right to charge any amount of money they want for their products and services. Period. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it!
I wish I could get any service person or estimator to show up within an HOUR of a given time, much less right on time. Most operate anywhere within a 3 or 4 hour window.
What manufacture you guys installing? More in likely, Goodman. Hopefully not York. And, if you guys are doing a lot of back to back installs, where you guy have good install crews, you guys can go a little lower and get some better pricing on equipment I'd like to see you guys put in Trane or Carrier for $7,500, nope.. not going to happen.
@Kathi Jordan trane equipment for 7500 doesnt exist anymore. i work for a top 10 trane dealer and we are consistantly one of the lower bids. and if you are selling it for that price you arent making any money and wont be in buisness long.
top of the line Trane equipment costs the dealer more then 7500 before you even add in labor or overhead. you simply dont understand how much costs have gone up in the last 3 years.
@@kevin-tk3qr Exactly! Pricing is through the roof! I'm losing installs left and right! It's crazy! It's sad, and I dont think it's going to get better. It could even get worse. My customers don't understand.
The whole time I was talking to the salesman, I thought, this guy used to be a used car salesman. Used all the same tactics. Started out at $26k then dropped down to $23 with rebates. 10% off for paying cash upfront. He then asks, what number were you thinking... I threw $17k at him. He had to call his manager but was able to do it. Crazy... I felt violated when he left. They sent me a quote to replace the blower capacitor for $420. A $15 part. Thanks for the honest videos
Yeah you might as well go buy a car. I will only ever pay 5k at most for a small sized system to 10k for larger units. Anything else is highway robbery.
@@yt-user03561 Good luck with that
@@eyeamserious Talked to many people already who had it done for that much.
Buy it and install it yourself. Perfectly legal. You wont have to pay for contractors insurance, health insurance, auto insurance, fuel, tires, office help, shop rental, code compliance, training, uniforms, licensing, EPA compliance, equipment, 20 thousand dollars in tools, marketing, payroll, Federal taxes, state taxes, continuing education or a hundred other things. It will probably only last 5 years with your DYI install. Just try not burn down or flood your house, or electrocute yourself while doing so.
I recently had to replace my heating and AC unit. I needed a 2 ton 16 seer unit. I had 5 contractors come to my home and I got prices from 5700 to 14,000 dollars. Naturally people would go with the 5700 system but this contractor was hard to contact so I said if they are this hard to contact then if something is wrong with the system then I could not get in contact with them. Bottom line the cheapest price may not always be the best price.
I'd say the cheapest price is almost always NOT the best price and there are usually reasons for them being cheap. Low quality and substandard work, or they know they won't stand behind it, and/or they have a poor reputation and must low-ball a quote just to get any work at all.
@@highlanderknight yep you are correct
That is my logic as well.
Doesn't matter in my case. I couldn't afford either of them so I'd have to go with window units. They have literally priced themselves out of most people's budgets. 5k is the most I will ever spend on something like this. Anything more is either highway robbery or simply something that is no longer attainable or reasonable.
Hahaha 15k?? They want double that one year later...
Great video. I swapped out a 3.5T/80k gas system in July 2018. My local small proprietor a/c guy did the job for $5,650 complete using Goodman equipment which was what I had previously. I live in the San Diego area so the equipment is drop shipped from Los Angeles to a local HVAC wearhouse . Two techs RNR’d the indoor and outdoor components in one day., and I have been pleased. I got a total of three quotes including Home Depot at $11,500, and Lowes at $19,000. Both Big Box stores sent out two sales people with fancy computer presentations. You see where this is going, right…high pressure sales. My recommendation to you followers is never go with big companies who advertise, it needs to be paid for somehow.
All of the HVAC guys do some sort of advertising. The little ones can be unreliable, inexperienced, understaffed, and gone the next day. I want someone I can go to to fix something they broke.
@@flexor212000then you most definitely don’t want to go through a big box store for hvac equipment or any trades work for that matter. Small family owned local reputable businesses would be your best bet.
i bought a new hvac system 6 years ago. i wish i had seen your videos first. you are providing a really great service.
A lot of times the sales person knows you are over a barrel with a down system. I went out and bought 2 spare units (1 window and 1 portable). This ensures I'm coming to the table and I'm not on fire hot, with a grumpy family. Allows me to take my time and make a good decision.
I did the same thing when mine went out 3 weeks ago. I tore out my unit and getting ready to put in an air handler in another month. Only concerned with heat coming up this winter for now. The best time to replace a system is when everyone thinks you don’t need one. The worst time is when you have to.
What I'm doing right now. I'm looking to buy locally for half their installed quotes 8k plus or 4k out the door hmmm.
Using window units for 5 years now
Mine got hit by a surge from lightning. I'm working with insurance, it's gonna take at least a month. I had one backup window unit and I went and bought another. I bought time for about $250. If more people did this so they made sure they got a good deal they'd be better off.
!00% spot on, I am a vetran and just quit a company because of alot of the things you just mentioned, I can do people right and make a good enough living myself. I dont need the big giant company focussed on sales. great video.
Thank you for pulling back the curtain on A/C products!
Your website and price transparency is amazing. I wish there were HVAC companies like yours in my area.
I wish you guys were in my town. Your transparency is refreshing.
Upgraded to a Lennox heat pump 6 years ago. Thought it was top of the line. Already have paid over 20% of the original cost in repairs, that, of course, were not covered by the warranty.
Class action lawsuit filed against Lenox
I have also had a lot of problems with the Lennox air conditioner installed thru Costco
Lennox broke in early summer for 3rd time in 4yrs, it's coming out. Shopping
Lennox is junk came with a new home...never will buy one of them.
Great video. Every industry should have companies like Atlas. The transparency is amazing and refreshing. Keep up the good work.
Just received one quote today for two units in a 3,200 SF home with mid line quality Lennox. The first choice was $62,000 down to $39,000 for the basic two stage gas furnace and 16 SEER AC units, a 2 & 4 ton units. A bit obscene. Needless to say, will be taking more bids. I think that a lot of HVAC companies look at certain addresses and add the "millionaire" charge.
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They are charging what they think they can get out of you. Duh.
Yup
I just got a quote for a new system in Philadelphia at 10k 9400k 7500k
Tell them to go kick rocks and find someone where you wont have to pay more than 10k for a system.
Man if I was in Texas I would go with you guys - thanks for the insights and willing ness to be open and post prices on your website. It helps to know what to expect when I go for quotes. Heroes don't always wear capes!
Thank you for that, just trying to keep our customers top priority, in a world where other companies take advantage of their customers!
This guy makes a good point... Make sure you get multiple quotes, before you make the decision... Good advice no matter what you buying...
just got quoted roughly $17k for a seer 17 system. Sure wish I could pinpoint exactly what happened around 3 years ago when prices of EVERYTHING started to skyrocket.
I’m in Southern California, i gathered all information from the unit i want to replace, thought i would get a quote over the phone…sadly no one gave me any quotes. I scheduled a couple companies to come by. Good to know there are still good honest companies like yours.
Thank you so much for this video, I just had to purchase a new system and could not find any decent pricing info online after the fact and figured that I may have overpaid even though I was dealing with a very reputable company. When I used the Atlas build your system it showed that the price was very fair and that makes me feel good about the whole purchase.
Most HVAC systems just don’t last anymore and the installation of the unit is as important as the brand you purchase
You’re lucky to get 20 years out of a system these days. This was a quote from an HVAC technician
My house is only 5 years old. Nothing but problems on 2 units. Ome leaked out the refrigerant. Just passed the 5 year warranty.
Your price transparency is refreshing. Thank you for this!
I have worked on automotive a/c before so I understand how it works. I bought a house 3 years ago and I have watched a lot of hvac videos. I decided to install a $300 2 ton Rheem n-coil evaporator and a $1850 2 ton Goodman condenser. The a/c didn’t cool well because the Rheem txv flowed too much refrigerant. I had to install a smaller piston to restrict the flow.
You should always instaql a system designed for each other never a Goodman I’ve installed rheem set up and great value and works great Bugget heating and cooling on line could have sold you a complete set for 3000 and install you self
@@curtisendicott5989 I don't believe you have ever installed an a/c system in your life. Any brand condenser will work with any evaporator. Goodman units are good. I see them everywhere. I spent less than $3,000.
@@blackericdenice belive what you want have s good day
@@curtisendicott5989 It's not what I believe. I have a video of my unit running.
Ok since you worked on cars and you know it all have a nice day
I think more and more people are considering installing hvac themselves. A gas furnace appears to be a pretty easy installation if you are reasonably handy. AC’s are doable with more skill and a willingness to buy about a grand worth of tools, from what I can tell. And if you’re a real estate investor (I’m looking at replacing up to 4 hvac systems in the next few years) it seems to be a no brainer to take the time to learn these skills.
Agreed, plus if you do it yourself it will be done with care. Some of the HVAC people out there today are straight up hacks. I have started doing my own repairs, it ain't that hard.
This videos are super helpful. Can you do a video on Remi Halo lights do they really work?
Great info, thanks. Checked your price list and saw it is from end of 2022, I expect things are a bit pricier now. Also, just had a strange experience with a sales rep. I signed with a digital signature onto his Ipad to order a split system. After a day or so, I had not received my copy of my order via email as promised. I contacted to get the info and was surprised to read it was for a different brand with less features that I thought I was getting. I cancelled under the three day rescission law in Florida but thought you may mention what "paperwork" customers should receive at time of ordering a system. Thank you.
In QC we have a $5500 grant to upgrade an A/C to heat pump for those with natural gas furnaces. They want to cut GHGs. Sounds good, right?
I just got two quotes and the heat pump installed is $11,000. Just a heat pump seer 2 inverter energy rating 21. Basically everyone doubled their price since the grant was available
Great video. As a single woman, I appreciate the guidance you give. Thanks
They are *all crooks
Found all your videos useful. I'm looking to replace a single stage unit that is leaking refrigerant and would like it to be able to start on my battery backup, if necessary. Would love to hear more about inrush/locked rotor amps, and experiences with startup on an inverter. Another idea for a topic would be matching to existing furnace. When do you need to match, or at least should match, a furnace when upgrading the AC from say a single stage to 2-stage or variable speed AC Unit?
context: 5600 sq ft, three story home
Great informative video and timely for me actually! I just got a quote to replace my (Massachusetts) 32 year old AC system and I have another guy coming tomorrow for a 2nd quote. The 1st guy quoted me this: "Basic Goodman 3 ton 14 SEER AC unit with Basis ADP air handler, keep existing copper line set, New Zone panel (existing dampers stay, or, add $600 to replace the two dampers. $9,900." I'm thinking that's A LOT of money for a run of the mill budget AC system. I looked online at your pricing in TX and didn't notice the air handler listed in your pricing. I have a Buderus oil-fed furnace hydro air HVAC system. I'd be interested to hear your (or anyone's) thoughts on the pricing I was given. Thanks!
Also, a lot of us are looking for info on a mini-split system. Do you work on those? Any info you can share? Thanks
Came for the pricing intel. Stayed for the "sponsor". Love it.
Hey man, I really like your vids and appreciate the info. I do have one criticism... Your sound is quite a bit low. I have my speakers set to high and it's still a challenge to hear you. The quality is great, but the sound is just low.
Must be on your end. His sound is ok and I have hearing loss.
I like your honesty!
How do you compare quotes that have different quality brands involved? Like a Tempstar versus a Trane?
Or find one by WOM. Totally replaced my system and was the best money I have ever spent. They did exactly what they said they would do. Great value.
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Wow! I just checked the price on the Goodman HVAC I purchased and installed two years ago for $2990. It's now $4700, a 56% increase! This is from HVAC Direct. That's way more than the inflation rate.
The cost of equipment in the past 2 years has risen by 65%.
@@michaelangelo6217 Yeah, no kidding. I wasn't happy when my old unit failed two years ago but looking back the timing was perfect.
@@DSC800 I replaced ours last December including a new lineset and feel glad that I did. There were two price increases during 2021 and there has been four price increases for 2022. I'm waiting for all this new equipment that has been mandated to begin rolling out beginning January 1st. What the cost will be and the problems associated with it. Kind of like a new vehicle model; there will be recalls.
Inflation rate is a lie. Plain and simple. My American standard equipment has increased 50% in the last two years. You can thank your greedy CEOs in suit wearing executives in the USA for outsourcing America. They will never lower prices because they like living high on the hog.
Trump strikes again.
It’s pricing like this that has driven me to doing so much DIY. But I’m fortunate. I learn things relatively easy and there is a lot of information and manufacturers training online (but read the comments - bad UA-cam videos get crucified). I always pull a permit so it’s inspected. And I’m retired, so I have the time.
Another great and informative video (I'm binge watching you). I've no plans on moving to Texas but if you decided to move to Ontario Canada I'd buy from your company. Cheers.
Best strategy is ask they to break down equipment and labor pricing. They will get u the equipment price and estimate hrs and hour rate for the jobs. That is how u can get best price.
You'll never find anyone that way. None of your business what somebody makes off a project. You want those figures so you can dissect and beat them down on price.
I live Northwest of Washington DC area and last week I had to replace my Goodman of 16 years my cost was 8 grand for a Carrier unit with a in wall air handler that also makes heat from my hot water tank the company I went with is presidential heating and air a carrier authorization dealer
The most I have gotten from a HVAC unit over the last 17yrs is 7 to 8 years before either the outside unit or inside unit had to be replaced
I am in Los Angeles and been getting quotes for around 22K for new install (no current central air system) of the Daikin Fit (3 Ton) for 1200 sqft home. I am interested in the FIt mainly due to the side exhaust design and not having much yard space. It also seems to have good reviews on UA-cam. I am guessing some of the 22K is electrical work (no 240 circuits yet).. but looking at your prices I don't see any mention in the "New AC Unit Costs" about the price including any electrical work.. the list of "what is included" below the "How Much Does a new AC Unit Cost?" looks like it is for a replacement as I don't see any mention of electrical or running ducts (how many) etc etc. Do your prices include electrical work? Also If anyone knows of other makes\models of heat pumps with the same form factor (side exhaust) as the Fit I would be very interested to check them out.
I can't move to Texas. I have another solution though. Would you consider expanding to North Carolina?
God tips. Questions: What’s the best way to ensure that I have a senior tech (versus junior tech) on the install? Are new line sets typically included in replacement quotes? Thanks.
Boo. Senior vs Junior tech? You suck. As a teacher I constantly see senior techs with bad habits that'll reduce the life of your system- not flowing nitrogen while brazing, not taking the vacuum below 500 microns, throwing shit together and saying "good enough." It's the younger guys that had to learn the most current rules and regulations so it's easiest for them to install systems to code. Plus the ones I know are usually more gung-ho
I hope you got a "senior" tech for your install
There is no need for a new lineset if the current one is in good working order. They can be cleaned out no problem.
So what I want to know is how much an hour do these people charge to install a HVAC system?The cost is all added in with the price so how do we know if we are getting screwed?How can we know the true price of the system??I know they charge by where you live and the cost of the houses in your neighborhood..
Exactly. The last time I asked an HVAC company to break down the estimate into individual parts cost and labor hours all they could tell me was, "Well we go by the book"
I don't have the book you dummies! That's why I'm asking for a complete breakdown! 🙄
It depends on the labor costs in the area and the brands of equipment available . It can vary wildly depending on where you live, even within the same state.
Some older homes also pose challenges with regards to permits, existing electrical or plumbing and where the equipment is located.
Attics, crawl spaces and homes with rooftop units can forget about saving money on replacement installations.
With that said,
Guaranteed than any of those less than 9k$ quotes are made up of RUUD, Goodman, Comfortmaker, Rheem, Payne or, at best, Bryant equipment.
Ain’t no way anybody will sell non off-brands of Carrier, Trane or Lennox for cheaper. Not with how much it costs to maintain their “certifications” to be able to buy and sell said equipment.
Not that you would want to purchase it either. There have been so many quality control issues with new equipment on damn-near every manufacturer out there, that you may as well just get the cheapest trash that you can find and have it installed as best it can.
It will end up costing just as much in repairs and band-aids anyway.
I am so tired of dealing with dishonest ac techs ! I’m switching to window units in my rentals . They are now efficient and quiet lasting about ten years .
I have had 4 estimates in Phila. I have two 53 yr old furnaces. No AC. All 4 estimates were different, different equipment, different tonnage, price from 12,000 to 270000
I'm in Philadelphia myself I'm in the market for a new hvac system the highest price I've got was 15k 25k but I'm working with a co. Right now that's given me 3 quotes 10k 9400k 7500k can you lmk Ty
Smh that’s tooo mich
Is the with having to install ductwork
thanks for just being honest and straight forward!!! 🤠
WIll this unit work on AC and heat or only AC? I need one that covers both and am curious about cost. My rental property is in Boston which is an extremely expensive city. The duct work is already there.
This happened right now 2 sales man and overpriced quotes.
This video is on point!!!!
Where I live (suburbs of Philly) every quote that I received for installing a HVAC was $13-15K. Crazy!!
It got to be cheaper than tht smh they over whooping
I'm in delaware and getting same estimate
This was a great video. You helped answer a lot of my questions and now I feel more confident about my hvac shopping experience and the price point.
Needed to watch this got new house hvac is as old as me(30) Home Depot had a free quote they said 10k scared my brother off but I told him to check small businesses because I saw a short talking about it
Have you heard anything about heat pumps that are coming out, that'll supposedly provide much better heating performance at low temperatures?
These units use modulating compressors like ductless systems. Gree Flexx is rated at 129° down to-22°!
Also most good heat pumps will go all the way down to 0 like rheem will
In your linked prices for a new Air Conditioning system are you including both the condenser unit and the evaporator coil? What about the thermostat? For example, the average unit for 2.5 ton you list is $3,746. Which of the three is included?
California is so much higher than your company, so sad you are not in my area! Low end is $20,000 to $13,000, and high end was $30,000 - $16,000 out of four different company quotes.
$30,000 is insane
Where are the links 😢?
How do you know if your ducts need to be replaced?
Thanks for sharing the information, i did not see the link to buyers guide and 2023 price list, do i need to go to your company Atlas AC web site ?
What brand do you sell? We offer 3 different brands, and our lennox base system does come up to about 10-11k. Lennox prices have just gotten outrageous, hence why we're offering 2 lower end brands now.
They probably charge so much since the evaporator coils leak every few years and need replacing.
VERY VERY HELPFUL ON A RANGE OF TOPICS THANKS
is there a seer's Guide video? also, can you cover the pros and cons of buying systems online? thanks
Good Luck finding someone to install a unit bought online.
Great series of videos Kenneth. Besides your company website, are there other resources a consumer can use to compare local installers?
I live in Dallas and just got a new Lennox 3-ton single stage AC and gas furnace for $6,300. Other companies bid the same system from $8-10k.
I had an ac guy other day say the one stage was no longer allowed hmmm. Lennox is what I have now lower end model coils last 3 years at best for this one ugh
Live in Dallas as well got a Lennox two stage 5 ton ac and gas furnance with a new return and supply vent change for 10.2k
I work for an HVAC company and thanks for first pointing out the equipment price increases.
As far as contractor pricing, there are some that will try to go the salesman, financing pricing route, but not most in my area (we don't).
Quotes over the phone can't be trusted if given at all, especially if the company hasn't been to your house. They have zero idea of how well or how poorly your previous system was installed, if your ductwork is adequate or if you cheaped out before. Even if your current system was sized right.
For pricing, just ask, if someone is cheap, why? Is it because they need the work because they don't have much because of a poor reputation? Are they super expensive because they are putting you in the front of the line ahead other installs that have been waiting? Also in my area there is a severe shortage of HVAC workers for most companies, meaning the workers in general have higher labor costs to retain them (and as a result you may have a backlog of installations).
Those are just a few things to think about. Just be smart about your quotes, and remember thare are valid reasons for some prices and in other cases somewhat greedy ones.
My two family house was built in 1962. Took 9 years for the owner to get central air units in both floors. Both handlers are the original from 1971. Both condensers were changed in late 90's. All still function well today.
watch for old asbestosis, my Uncle owned a heating and AC company in the Dallas area and it killed him...
Ralph E. Turner, 68, owner of Regional Heating and AC, passed away Sunday, Nov. 14, 2010, after a short illness with mesothelioma.
I'm very sorry about your loss. Was Mr. Turner using safety masks for the jobs?
@@bobboscarato1313 doubtful back in the 60's and 70's, 80's, but in the 90's yes, once they knew the risk...
@@freddyhollingsworth5945 Risks were known before ; kept quiet and ignored.!!!
It's always the contractor trying to swindle the customer.
The HVAC guy I brought today wanted to charge me 7k... For a less than 1000sf home.
I have the ducts and a heating system with a fan and furnace installed etc
The Goodman unit he wants to bring costs $1,500. So his labor alone is $5,500 for about 4 hours of work.
Now I'm looking for an HVAC guy through a friend because I'm going to buy the unit by myself (through the licensed HVAC guy) then get my own electrician guy and that's it.
They will give you a load of shit why it cost so much to do their training and permits and vehicle cost I said I don’t want to buy your vehicle I just want to be comfortable
These are great videos, I was in a/c for 30 years, 20 years ago. I need a new system I’ve got some price’s on a 3 ton system (gas) would like to 14-16 seer. What about a contractor that charge’s for coming to give you a price but will take that charge off if they do the job? Thanks
Tell those guys to kick rocks.
I just had a 80k btu carrier two stage high efficiency furnace, 3 ton 14 seer ac and a humidifier installed for 7200. This included 700 off under the carrier heat exchanger program so felt pretty good about the package.
That seems like an exceptionally good deal. Where do you live?
Assuming you live in Northern US, 14 seer was outdated as of 2023, need to have 16 minimum now.
Hmmm, 14 SEER
If you do the math you'll see SEER 16 is the way to go.
@@landcruiser7936 yeah, mutually beneficial. You got a decent price and he got an older 14 SEER out of inventory. For your shorter season I’d have done the same 👍🏽
Got a guy installing a new Amana 3 ton package unit for $4600. Best deal Ive found.
1 man, 6-8 hrs with a profit of 1100.00. He can afford that. Problem is a company with trucks, workers and overhead cannot cone close to that, they would be doing it for free???
Great videos. Do you guys install in Floresville, TX?
Thanks so much! We do, give us a call (210) 549-9550
I am wanting to buy the carrier 24 Seer Infinity Series with matching air handler. This is the best heat pump carrier has at the moment the cheapest I can find is 14,571 I had three estimates. This is with new lines and a 5-inch filter. I live in Indiana. Thank you
In my opinion, I would say that price, for that unit is actually a good find. Hope this helps!
@@atlasacrepair thank you!
Are you in out around Houston? If not, can you recommend a good company here?
Had a 2 ton Carrier installed for $6.5k, seemed like a decent deal from what I saw.
Contractor charged 16k. Parts were 4k . Guy and helper took 2 hours to replace system… so 6k per hour in labor
What system goes best w/ a 70% solar panel solution?
I have gotten 6 quotes for a 2 ton 15.5 SEER HSP 8.2 single stage Heatpump from anywhere $7,500 to $12,000 (installed for 6 - 8hrs of labor) in the Orlando area despite the actual AC (Condenser/Air handler/ 50' copper line/10kw heat strip/programable themo) only costing $3,200 - 3,800. Toyota had that scam of 0% for 5yrs but they tack on an extra $2,500 - 3,000 on to the price (even with my 820 credit); I just went with my PenFed CU 1.49% for 3yrs...cost me an extra $550 over that time frame back in 2018.
the equipment may cost 3800.00 dollars but there are another 3-400 dollars in misc parts needed to install a system plus tax. then you have to pay the install crew they dont come cheap. then if you have an office with a staff to answer phones and do the books you have to pay them. the over head to run a company. some money to advertise. insurance gas ect. oh yea you might wanna make a profit too. so yea thats why systems cost so much now.
@@kevin-tk3qr He sounds like the "but the solar panels are $300 each, why does my solar system cost $35,000 when the parts are only $12,000!!!!"
You should never need a heat strip in Florida heat pump installed right will do the job
@@curtisendicott5989Technically yes but when it’s 30 degree in Tampa and your unit outside doesn’t come on for some reason? It’s called emergency heat and it’s works, the heater itself is 75-100 dollars at cost definitely worth putting in when replacing a system
@@kevin-tk3qr How does "overhead" get to be 100% - 250%?
I guess this prices are all over i got qute today to replace outside condenser unit for 1800 and if inside home coils needs to be replaced then it will all out the door cost ve $2700 thats not bad. Lowes selling 2ton unit for $1200 so it is reasonable to be under $2k (for outsidr unit)to charge from service company.
Start early before your system breaks down, quotes are free, get 5-6 and then you have a running average of cost estimates.
Mostly A/C content these videos... 15 below here in Wisconsin Thursday night. I would consider to your "opinion" if you could install and keep up with winter service calls in this region. Oh, by the way, they're building new homes here in Madison WI right now. Just the other day I saw guys on a pump jacks hanging siding - wind chills well below zero. The HVAC truck was parked outside. Doing duct work in a freeze and setting furnaces.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF BUYING AC EQUIPMENT off the internet or thru local ads ? ...... I notice several people selling AC equipment on the internet ....... some ads say they have several units that were rebuilt or for some other reason they how have units that were purchased in bulk for a contractor and didn't use
Thank you. Great job.
I've contacted several dealers for a 3.5 ton ducted heat pump and getting quotes ~18,000. Is that typical for SE Pennsylvania?
Depends what brand/ indoor unit they're proposing by overall yeah, heat pumps had some of the highest increases lately. For anything worth having in your home you plan to spend next 10 years in, 16-18 is generally correct.
Hey Kenneth! Can you start a Georgia based company? I am looking online at your prices and the best I can tell is that you are selling the same Lennox system I just got a quote for for several thousand dollars less.
I have a 30-year-old Rheem Furnace/air-conditioning split system, it is operational. I want to get it replaced while there is no urgency hopefully to save cost. Here is my dilemma. I want to buy my new hvac system thru Home Depot they will deliver the new unit to the store or to my home. However, when I contact a HVAC business, they seem uninterested in taking the installation work. Apparently not enough Windfall profit. I simply want a change out of the old unit for the new one. Everything is already in place. Your thoughts on what the problem might be? Btw, I would support a full inspection in case any unseen cost issues arise.
Will have to hire a small time guy/company. Reputable companies offer warranties on equipment and labor through them at no cost so they won't take that liability
my parents ac unit stopped working and they had a new one installed, and im worried that they were overcharged. i looked at the invoice and they were charged a little over $13,000 for a new ac unit and thermostat. were they overcharged and if so would they be able to file a lawsuit?
If it was $13,000 just for the condenser, they were badly overcharged. I suspect the vendors know that when a critical and timely replacement needs to be done, they will charge top dollar. By comparison, we're getting a top of the line, 20 SEER variable speed, 3 ton condensor, and 80,000 btu 2 stage furnace (80% efficiency) for $13,000.
Is there a company like this in So Cal?
Be serious 😂
Which type of systems were installed that saved some of your customers $300 on their light bills? Was single, double or variable speed?
Is Katy TX in your service area? I'm replacing my two units.
A strategy i did was when i got a quote that was signigantly lower than what i was told over the phone i had the other companies paperwork on my tbsle when the guy came in. Prices right there to let him know he was already over 2k higher than the last guy. I was also open about getting quotes. I also told this company o had already got all the quotes i wanted when they called me from Angies list. And i made them convince me to come by. I did okay. Got a 2.5 ton 16 seer single stage goodman and a 80% furnace for 7500 after tax.
Just fyi, took a look at your web site and found an error in the repair section. Instead of Capacitor it says Compositor.
A 3.5 ton compressor/condenser only cost the contractor about 1500.00.
Just got a quote of $27,976 for a American Standard Gold 4 ton, 2 stage, 16 seer, 8.1 HSPF2 heat pump, with new evap coil, and 4 ton 80K BTU 2 stage propane furnace replacements... I.e. everything in... just replace the existing systems. Unreal!!
That's a lot. We're having a 20 SEER variable speed 3 ton unit and 80k 2 stage gas furnace installed for $13,000.
How many viewers think that businesses are using "inflation" as an excuse to raise prices when they really don't have to. I suspect, human nature being what it is, many, if not most do.
Maybe not small companies but big companies sure as hell are. If inflation was hurting them so bad they wouldn't be telling their shareholders that they're having record profits. Companies can't legally lie to shareholders
Time has shown this to be completely correct
I’m confused. Do you think businesses are somehow immune to inflation?
@@Pseudify That would mean they lost or made the same amount of money. We now know that they posted record profits. Them raising prices was just taking advantage of the situation
@@Jacob-yz5cb. What do you think keeps prices in check in the first place? If businesses are all greedy as you seem to be claiming, then why wouldn’t they just keep raising their prices? I think you know the answer to that. The fact of the matter is, a business has a right to charge any amount of money they want for their products and services. Period. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it!
What about companies that say, buy a new A/C and get a free furnace. Can you speak about this?
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I sure wish you lived near me. I'm in trouble and am trying to work around these crazies.
I wish I could get any service person or estimator to show up within an HOUR of a given time, much less right on time. Most operate anywhere within a 3 or 4 hour window.
I owned an AC company in Florida, and ex lennox customers where my best customers.
What manufacture you guys installing? More in likely, Goodman. Hopefully not York. And, if you guys are doing a lot of back to back installs, where you guy have good install crews, you guys can go a little lower and get some better pricing on equipment
I'd like to see you guys put in Trane or Carrier for $7,500, nope.. not going to happen.
@Kathi Jordan I'll stick with the 15k. Trane and Carriers are great equipment!
@Kathi Jordan trane equipment for 7500 doesnt exist anymore. i work for a top 10 trane dealer and we are consistantly one of the lower bids. and if you are selling it for that price you arent making any money and wont be in buisness long.
top of the line Trane equipment costs the dealer more then 7500 before you even add in labor or overhead. you simply dont understand how much costs have gone up in the last 3 years.
@@kevin-tk3qr Exactly! Pricing is through the roof! I'm losing installs left and right! It's crazy! It's sad, and I dont think it's going to get better. It could even get worse.
My customers don't understand.