Animated Atrocities 169 || Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy [The Simpsons]
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2020
- When you try to talk about social issues, it usually helps to not be the most tone deaf thing that I've ever seen.
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"Do I hear the sound of butting in? It's got to be little Lisa Simpson, Springfield's answer to a QUESTION NO ONE ASKED!"
-Ned Flanders, in "Hurricane Neddy" (s8e8, 1996) prophesying what would only be played up more in the ensuing years.
Was that the episode where Ned kept trying to be nice despite everything around him and he finally snaps?
Ned nailed it!
@@vampenga9277 and then at the end told people that from now on when people bothered him he'd just commit vehicular homicide
AW HELL DIDDLY DING DONG CRAP!
The Simpsons predict The Simpsons (2020) (colorized)
So... how long until they make an episode where Bart says “ok boomer” and Marge gets offended for being called a Karen?
Well it takes about 6 months to make an Episode of the Simpsons so I'm gonna say... 3 years
Honestly I would love to watch an episode where Marge gets called a Karen.
@@mrboerger1620 Also it would be ironic that a boomer like the Simpsons would say "ok boomer"
mmmm... okay boomer
@@bentheg9793 if only you understood the word you were using! "Boomer" refers to someone born in the baby boomer generation (late 1940's to late 1960's). The Simpsons is a Gen X show
As a woman and a longtime fan of all kinds of media, I absolutely HATE how everything with a female protagonist or cast these days MUST be a bastion of perfect feminism or else it's a failure and the media hates women. I know female roles have been limited and flawed as shit in the past, but when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s...okay, the whole Girls Can Do It Like The Boys thing was there, but it didn't feel as shoved down our throats. Gadget from Rescue Rangers was the only girl who happened to be a mechanic, but they let her be pretty, too, and she was awesome because she was smart and resourceful and the team could count on her. And she was allowed to make mistakes without fans going "welp, so much for a feminist role model" and all the crap people throw when a female character is less than perfect.
Also, why the fuck would Lisa do that to Bart when she's been bullied and knows how much it hurts? I know the show has amnesia, but this is just ridiculous. And they need to let Julie Kavner retire already, holy shit.
I always prefer telling an actual story with decent characters than cramming a message any day.
Because if you put more effort in spreading diversity than actual storytelling, you're only ruining your message because you don't have good enough writing to back it up.
If you want to see a woman who not only made it in a male dominated form of entertainment but became one of its most legendary and respected figures you should check out Doro Pesch (AKA: The Queen Of Heavy Metal).
Feminists don't actually like this episode. You know that, right? This was an episode that wanted to pander, but had literally no idea what they were talking about. It's pretty offensive to everyone, lol.
Paula Dudley that’s typically what happens to most things that try to pander, as it ends up offending the very people they are trying to pander too.
@@Dr.Oofers Agreed. It's honestly pretty pathetic.
I’m sure it’s been done before, but I can’t resist
Simpsons: How do you do, fellow kids?
You could easily make a Simpsons version of the meme with Mr. Burns dressed as a teen.
@@reasyrandom If a see a Mr Burns version of that meme, I'll let you know.
@Michael Hewitt-Clarke Totally In-your-face, dude!
Well that's why I just stick to the classic episodes.
@@Sgt-Wolf Same
When Marge says "noob" I can hear Julie Kavner die a little each time.
"Noob", "Pwned", "Giffed", etc. - it's hard to believe that this premiered in 2019 and not 2004.🤦♂️
Same 💀
Four times in an row
It hurts, it really hurts.
Also gif is not an insult. It a word that means something that people spam again again and again.
Every time I hear Marge's voice, I just feel a little saddened by it. Her age really shows in her raspy voice. I would hate it if the only thing that gets a show that is 20 seasons past its prime to end is one of the voice actors for the main cast to pass away.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were already secretly finding replacement voice actors at this point. All the voice actors on this show are in at least there 50s or 60s.
I doubt it'd end then.. Likely they'd either find someone who sounds similar enough or find a way to write her out if not just find none speaking roles for Marge .. Its been done in animation and live action at varies times in long running series so yeah
I wouldn't put it past Disney to digitally recreate Marge's voice.
I'm getting that vibe from Krusty, too. I know this show has been running for over 30 years now, and yeah I gave up on new episodes years ago, but it's still sad to think about.
Russi Taylor, the voice of Martin Prince and Sherri and Terri, passed away last year. Apparently, her roles have been recast with Grey Griffin taking over the roles.
I haven't seen the Simpsons in years but, wow, Marge's voice is horrible now going off these clips. Please let Julie Kavner retire. She's almost 70 and this must be hell on her vocal chords
Same. I haven't watched The Simpsons in *forever.* I haven't watched it in a long time because I honestly don't care for it anymore.
Rhoda's sister got a lot of money though! Lol
I think that's from smoking.
Milhouse sounds about as bad. Kinda reminds me of how Goku’s Japanese voice actor is an elderly woman.
@@PhoenixFireZero I think that's just standard Milhouse that's why he such a pathetic character
Ned Flanders called out Lisa 23 years ago in the Season 8 episode "Hurricane Neddy", with Flanders calling Lisa "Springfield's answer to a question NO ONE asked". That still holds true today more than ever.
henryca03 Chief Wiggum laughing at Ned afterward dissing Lisa
This is before watching a moment of this video, also I know not of the Simpsons besides they are the Simpsons but what you said in the quotes is just a response/answer. Everything is a response even If it's not specifically asked for. He primitively called out Lisa for acceptance but didn't have the response. It's what no one asked.
Ned called out everyone in that episode.
“And Homer, you are the worst human being I have ever met.” - Ned. “I got off pretty easy.” - Homer
This is why I prefer Huey Freeman.
Here's how you do this right: Bart meets rebel girls in detention. They become friends, and Bart starts to see girls can be cool. Skinner says something off hand, and Bart demands an apology. He refuses, and the girls and Bart start pranking Skinner non stop until he apologizes. Lisa is confused, as Bart's supporting women while doing 'bad'. She ends up in therapy to deal with her mind breaking. It ends with Skinner apologising because they called his mother on him, and Lisa scheduling five months of therapy.
you know what, I could actually see that working
Or Bart befriends someone online (or some way he doesn’t learn they’re a girl) who shares his interests and gets along with him. They meet face to face and he finds out they’re a girl. When people tease him Bart asks them why that’s a big deal, and that boy or girl there’s a lot more to a person.
@@jbcatz5 An online relationship as a too strong tendency to be seen as romantic. I think it is important to the point/message that Bart is interacting with a group of girl (or a mixed sex group). even in terms of teasing by others: If he denies romantic feelings for a girl he gets along with: That would be more of a reason to believe that he has romantic feelings. It is very hard to portray a deep, meaningful, platonic different sex relation ship in media, when all you have is one episode (without force full friend-zoning which is an other can of worms). By fitting him into a group, he can get along with the group dynamic, without being to attached to a specific girl.
Michael Frey I’m not talking about romantic, just a platonic friend. Even though he’s had one off love interests he’s a ten year old. His view of girls is that of a typical ten year old, he’s more averse time girly things than actual girls. The kind of plot I’m thinking of would have worked better in an earlier season, where it’s easier to pull off as Bart doing a pen pal project and he gets someone with a unisex name who doesn’t automatically click to him as a girl until they’ve become genuine friends. The show does one episode friends all the damn time, it’s remarkable when someone does stick around because blue moons are more common.
Jay Barry exactly
"this is someone else's war and you... you're just a mercenary"
Yeah, like the Englishmen that marched with Ghandi, and the white men standing shoulder with shoulder with Marthin Luther King. All those, horrible HORRIBLE people fighting for the rights of the opressed when they themselves aren't oppressed.
(and just a disclaimer because YT comments are stupid like that, this is sarcasm)
Yep. Charlton Heston gave a great speech about something similar. HOw he marched alongside Martin Luther King Jr and worked on screen with many talented black actors. But because he believed that a black man's rights should be the exact same as a white man's he's labeled a racist.
I'm actually happy to see someone on rye internet bring this up.
Also If you were in that minority you should just not participate in it if you don't like it. I am very intelligent.
I don't even know how that's meant to be insulting. Mercenary work is a job, no different from being a solider... Or more closely a bodyguard, I suppose. Really, it just makes Lisa look stupider.
@@Umbra_Ursus
Because most countries (USA not included) don't see being a soldier as a good thing in this day and age where WW2 is over.
So being a soldier JUST because you'd earn money from it is even lower than the low military itself already is
"Is this supposed to be a joke about Lisa being a moron?"
God, I hope so... If the idea they're trying to push is that Lisa is just as stupid as everyone else, that'd take of... I dunno, AT LEAST 90% of my gripes about The Simpsons after season 10.
Hi, Bobsheaux. Nice to see you here!
God, you're a breath of fresh air, Bobsheaux.
Sup bob, glad to see some people have common sense still
If for nothing else, Simpsons needs to end so Marge's voice actress can finally have a break because nowadays, my god, Marge sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
She has kinda always sounded like that imo but more so nowadays, I mean, her voice has been a laughing stock for years!
This is the same thing when it comes to me wanting Spongebob to end because the voice actors are getting older and if one of the major characters’ VAs passes away, they’re fucked. We already lost both VAs for Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy, so they cannot keep carrying through like this to the point where they can also end up like Fairly Odd Parents in terms of its fate.
That's what worries me about The Simpsons. It is inevitable that it is going to end one day but if it isn't done on its own terms that it'll be so underwhelming.
Maybe it will get cancelled when she retires.
@@samalass466 or they'll hire a new younger voice actor to replace her and keep the series going.
please don't put Fresh Prince of Bel-Air in the same box as Full House. That show talked about racial profiling, violence, class divide, parental abandonment, among other things, and how to treat them with dignity and seriousness. Fresh Prince was edgy back in the day. It was to live action sitcom's what the Simpsons was to animated sitcoms
Yeah Full House was more... white bread. As in plain and boring
No, that was married with children just without the dignity and seriousness.
I agree. Fresh Prince had heart to it while still being funny. Full house had a very artificial sweetener that left a very bad after taste in your mouth
Especially when you find what happened to most of the cast after it ended.
You got it, dude.
I actually used to like/relate to Lisa. This isn't ordinary character derailment, this is throwing Thomas all the way from Sodor onto the Puffing Billy. That's 17,178KM of pure derailed.
If you thought Lisa was bad in Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy, she is a lot worse at Flanders' Ladder. That episode is the worst I have ever seen Lisa act. There are no exceptions. It should be an Animated Atrocities immediately! Like when Mr. Enter discovered Uh-Oh, Canada and Pet Sitter Pat.
Same here. Although I still like like/relate to Lisa during my life. If you want to see character destruction, for those who haven't watched the two parter, spoilers, Lisa defended someone who burnt The Bible.
Never liked her, her voice sounds like Kermit the Frog got castrated, she was always a soapbox for Matt Groening to spew agitprop at the audience, though I give credit to the Vegetarian episode for at least having the moral that you shouldn't force your views on others, Lisa at damn near every turn is a smug self-righteous zealot who's said to be so smart & deep, yet she can't seem to grasp why no one likes her, & the show tries to justify her social isolation as the fault of everyone around her rather than her own obnoxiously sardonic attitude, & most episodes where she goes on a crusade tend to end with her being right because she's Lisa, to Hell with her.
@@loopyloon5401 Eesh, hearing about that makes me think back to the episode Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy. Remember when Marge and the rest of the family actually called her out for being overly proactive in that one? 'Cause the writers sure didn't.
People mock Lisa for being an obvious mouthpiece for the writers, but this was mostly a thing in the seasons where the writing was rock-solid so this wasn't really a negative, and even after that they started to humanize her a lot more and she became a pretty good character (a similar thing happened with Marge even later), but I see that's over now and Lisa is back to square one.
Gotta love how Bart and Lisa have gone from actual characters to a strawman and a mouthpiece, respectively. Because who wants to get invested in interesting characters when we can get the writers political beliefs crammed down our throats in the most obnoxious way possible?
For those wondering, this is what people are typically arguing against when they say that politics should be kept out of media. Half the time when they are in media, we get a series of mouthpieces and strawmen instead of actual characters.
Yup...
Interestingly enough, MrEnter himself also covered politics in media when he was giving Extra Credits the ripping that they deserve. Though in that case, he was talking more about people trying to shoehorn politics where it simply doesn't belong (citing the gaming news outlets for expecting Far Cry 5 to depict "Trump's America" in its conflict). But yes, I think it's safe to say that this is another issue people have with politics in media: when a work is political, it really should be handled a lot more delicately, something this episode and a lot of woke garbage in general absolutely fails at.
Really, I think the last decade of political media in general has just been too overrun by far leftist radicals who try to present their perspectives as the ONLY viable perspectives out there. They think everything's gonna get on track with Obama in office, and that a black man in office means there's no longer a place for even the most mild of transgressions against any group that isn't white, straight, biological male, or Christian (the groups listed, meanwhile, apparently deserve all the hate they get because history or some shit). Instead, they end up annoying the absolute fuck out of everyone, and they're seriously surprised when Trump takes office?
Finally! Someone gets it.
This review was painful to watch. Not because of Mr. Enter (his analysis was great), but because of the awful episode. How did _The Simpsons_ get this bad? This episode feels like it was written by people on Tumblr or Buzzfeed. Were the writers trying to create an episode that's promotes a toxic, stereotypical brand of feminism? Because they certainly suceeded. But the worst part of the episode is that *it's not funny.* It's just an episode long lecture on feminism and female representation. People watch _The Simpsons_ to laugh and be entertained--not to be lectured. This episode is no better than crap like "The Return of Slade" or "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven."
@@strawberryfieldswhenever biggest sin with the Simpsons and other things like film taking on this is what the medium stands for. It's distraction and escapism. If, say, a black person was having a shit time in life because of racism, they'd tune in to something like The Simpsons to forget about real life for half an hour and then be reminded of how shit a lot of it is. Dunno why I decided to go off on a tangent about racism, probably because of Floyd.
When I watched this episode for the first time I just shut off my TV when I heard Lisa tell Bart to "stop mansplaining"
Good to see someone has two brain cells to rub together.
Old Simpsons would have parodied the sh... out of moronic phrases like this, as would do South Park today. Nowadays the Simpsons use feminist propaganda crap like this without the slightest trace of irony, thus becoming a feminist propaganda show. The Simpsons have become bad, but with this they really hit a new low.
Man, Julie Kavner's voice is not holding up
She's getting up there. I'm not sure what they plan to do when someone within the main cast kicks the bucket.
Yeah, you guys aren't kidding there!
Because of her age? Is she a smoker?
@@jgallardo7344 She's almost 70 years old
@@coloneljak429 They could get a replacement actor like they did for Russi Taylor's roles.
Out of curiosity, is Grey DeLisle a good replacement for Russi's roles?
broke: "mmm homey" in marge's voice
woke: "how could i be such a noob" in marge's voice
Old folk: (Anything Season 30 Marge says)
"Battle ready armor" is that a KND reference there I detect? 8D
When the joke was done so much better.
Husky nice profile picture
That was one of my favorite episodes!
I remember how they translated it as Tuta Orco Protetta in Italian XD memories...
The only KND weapon acronym I remember is for T.A.G.G. (Totally Am Gonna Getcha) Missiles.
"I don't know what to be liberal about anymore."
Is it wrong that I laughed at that?
No because that's actually a good joke.
It's the dry humor this episode DESPERATELY needed more of.
They try so hard to dance around issues to get to a punchline, when just saying things like it is in an ironic context is all they need to do.
@@sir.hopper i was kinda hoping marge would try to get angry at the violence the show dipslays. only to realize "oh right. i tried and failed already".
at least that would imply there is continuity
Adam Hopper Your opinion, m8.
No
@@sir.hopper Yup, this is one of the few jokes in the episode that actually works because it's simple, dry, sarcastic, subversive and perfectly timed and not supposed to shove a message down the viewer's throat. It gives a glimpse of how good the Simpsons used to be and still could be. And it's very telling that this joke alone is better and more memorable than the whole rest of the episode.
" wElL BaRT, HoW DoES IT fEEl tO Be troLLED, MeMeD, gIfed, and DarE I saY, PWNED?"
This phrase is just so annoying it makes me want to flip a table into that face,
Ikr
She’s THAT out of touch.
I don't know who wrote that phrase, but I hate them already.
Why can’t this show just die?
It’s like that really old fish in the SpongeBob episode where they sell chocolate bars
“What are they selling?”
because it still makes money guys. It not gonna end because you tell them to
There are still enough people watching The Simpsons to justifying making new episodes.
You cant wait for me to die, can you?!?
You want to know what the difference is between modern Simpsons and the really old fish in "Chocolate with Nuts"?
The old fish from "Chocolate with Nuts" is funny.
You know this could have gone a *really* good direction.
With Lisa being a liberal poser in the past this could have challenged what she beleved and how she fights for those beliefs.
-She first could have looked up to the bossy riot
-Then after Bart joining them and calling Lisa her a poser essentially, Lisa looks back on how she has done things and realizes she doesn't get results like they do
-Then convience Bart to help her join the Bossy Riot only to see that their way causes more damage than change.
-And finally learns that fights for a cause in these superficial ways isn't the right way to do it and helps no one.
-Then work with the BRA and the Bossy Riot to change itchy and scratchy to satisfy all parties, by adding an original female character to the show who can eventually get her own spin-off.
- Making Lisa revaulate why and how she protest for things and making her a better activist.
And that being the same lesson the audience takes from this.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
@TheRapper10000 Nor will the writers allow Lisa to be "in the wrong", so anyone who challenges her is turned into a strawman.
@@TuesdaysArt maybe add a punchline of said spinoff character getting "Poochie'd" and Lisa while thinking sometimes the struggle is for naught, she can at least try to be a better person herself. as of bart? he is still doing his vandalism stuff. he just traded feminism for good well ol' fashioned anarchy.
(We all know they would get rebooted next episode back to status quo so at least let them do a good episode.)
Glad I'm not the only one who hated this dumpster fire of an episode.
Also Lisa claimed Bart was "giffed" but I'm pretty sure "giffing" is when you send gifs of flashing colors to epileptic people, like Kurt Eichenwald.
Still watching Enter? I bet he is going to find this awkward after your video on him.
Where have you been, my dude?
I only laughed at this episode cause I took it out of context
She meant people made gif out of the video
I hated it to! But if you hated Lisa in this episode, you are going to hate her even more in Flanders' Ladder. It almost makes Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy seem tolerable! October 5, 2020, 11:26pm
The worst part of Bart vs Itchy and Scratchy, Lisa pronouncing gif as “jif”
It might have been intentionally cringe. But that might be giving them to much credit.
You're not supposed to pronounce the g?
It's officially pronounced jif though, the creator of the gif format, Steve Wilhite said so.
Oof
@@mattwo7
It sounds stupid and no one does that, with some insignificant exceptions.
Man, something really jarring in these clips is hearing how different Marge sounds. Its been years since I've seen modern Simpsons and you can tell some of the voice actors are barely holding on
Really? It only sounds like Homer and Marge are struggling... just like their marriage! 🥁
Marge's voice actor, Julie Kavner, was born on September 7, 1950 if that tells you anything.
She has a bump on her vocal cords which is why she sounds so gravely. That combined with the fact she's 70 years old, and her voice is only going to get worse.
When Lisa said they were fighting against Misogyny, I actual ground my teeth.
Misogyny is a word that is starting to lose its actual meaning because it keeps getting used to label stuff that has NOTHING TO DO WITH MISOGYNY IN THE SLIGHTEST.
A huge example is dubs coming from Funimation, where a male character can simply say their friend looks cute in an outfit and she'll reply back with "you're such a misogynist".
HOW is complimenting your friend so she feels good about herself in ANY WAY misogynistic?!
Ikr
Every. Single. One. Of these "bad" words that feminists like to spam online have lost all their meaning.
You can call me a Nazi, you can call me a bigot, you can call me a racist, sexist, homophobe, race traitor, mysoginist whatever. And I simply won't give a shit at this point, if anything I'll gladly wear my Nazi label with PRIDE because at least I know that it means I'm a good person in my eyes.
Example of a dub doing that?
@@Klonoahedgehog ...okay, so, umm, you're making me wonder what you exactly *did* to get called all of that.
I'm not trying to shitstir--you might have genuinely been unfairly maligned for all I know, but...uhh...
"Nazi" and "race traitor" are pretty specific and weighty labels, and if they've lost all meaning to you because you've been...I'm guessing mischaracterized(?), then I'm really going to need some context here to understand how or why we've arrived at that point.
@@z1pperintheback657 Simple, the race traitor thing.
I'm a latino, who got a lot of hate online from the usual left crowd for not acting like how they think Latino's should act. Fitting into their simple minded world view.
As for the others? They simply called me those things over and over because I criticized the very thing this episode of the Simpson's is supposed to be making fun of lol
Lisa: This is someone else's war, and you're just a mercenary.
Me: Lisa, you're a Straight-A student. You should know mercs have been big players in every war from the crusades to the current war in the middle east, right? Wars aren't won without mercenaries.
As someone who plays Crusader Kings, I can agree with that
which according to Machiavelli has been a terrible idea, as mercs cannot be trusted.
@@azzzanadra Well look at Switzerland.
Assuming if Crusaders count as "Mercenaries", more of a "powerful military aristocrat with an army he raised from local domain" (people like Frederick Barbarossa) or "a warband of militaristic monastic figures" (Knight Templar, Teutonics, and Hospitallier)
Where you talking to a cartoon character?
Lisa: This is Lisa Simpson. Recording my reaction to this historic moment in Cartoon Women’s History.
Otto: You know Lisa anytime people bring attention to the breaking of Gender Roles, it actually undermines the concept of gender equality by stating THIS is an exception and NOT the status quo.
(Everyone looks at Otto in utter confusion)
Otto: What? Just because I’m a meth head doesn’t mean I’m not a feminist.
I love Sonic Boom
I always thought this sounded anti-femenist considering it's usually the femenists who point out the breaking of gender roles way too often
You mean Pot head
@@rsome977 Basically, the point Knuckles was trying to make was that the whole "Woman wants to do X which is traditionally seen as a men's activity" plot and the pieces of media that use it in their misguided attempts to prove that the genders are equal usually wind up demonstrating the exact opposite because the woman is treated as "special" for being able to do this activity just as good as the men rather than it being a case of "of course a woman can do this activity just as good as a man. Why wouldn't they be able to?"
Ah, Sonic Boom. You were gone too soon.
This episode feels like it was written by Tumblr and BuzzFeed.
Why do people still whine about Buzzfeed and Tumblr? That's 2015
@@Malkmusianful I dont know.Why do people still complain about GamerGate
@@Malkmusianful Buzzfeed’s manspreading video
@Smol Gal yeah, clickbait sucks too. I thought we all agreed on that.
@@Malkmusianful Because they continue to attack people who don't fall in line with their communist ideology. Tell anyone of these weirdos that 'The Last Jedi', or 'Ghostbusters 2016' sucked, and they'll dissent on you like a swarm of bees.
This show should just leave the social commentary to South Park.
Also, just let Julie Kavner retire or something. Her voice sounds like she's been gargling with razorblades.
Simpsons should had ended in 2007 after the movie.
South Park should have ended in 2001 or 2012. Depending what real world event took place.
@@dustinfreeman1451 I disagree. South Park is still decent.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 True but season 22 was lack luster for me (that's just my opinion). And season 20 was a huge let down leaving a lot of unanswered questions.....Such as why are there freaking member-berries.
The only one really being forced to stay is probably the voice of Mr. Burns.
Female reboots are bad because having a girl is clearly a crutch, which is an extension of how regular reboots are riding solely on the name of the movie instead of their own merit "Dragonball Evolution". Then there's the audacity to pretend they're breaking barriers by undermining successful female characters. Imagine trying to argue there isn't a successful female action movie and sweeping movies like "Aliens" and "Kill Bill" just so they (and their movie) can feel tall.
Also, Terminator and Terminator 2. And there's no end to strong female protagonists in video games. Lara Croft, Samus Aran, Bayonetta, Aqua from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, Maya from Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, Minako from Persona 3 Portable, Blaze the Cat from Sonic Rush.
It's the same simply with the argument of changing existing video games characters genders or race. Let's play as Zelda for example, don't make Link a chick.
@@HunterStiles651 I've been following GamerGate ever since it started. It really is fucking insulting how much those Sarkeesian-shilling journalists act as if ALL strong female characters in video games didn't exist, or worse, they did exist but they apparently "don't count" by their inane standards. And the sad thing is that their reason for doing this is far more cynical: they do it just to prop up their friends in the indie scene, making them look like some kind of trailblazer when they really didn't accomplish a thing with their shitty games.
@@HunterStiles651 Those characters are not valid. They're not smug patronizing bitches made to "educate" the stupid audience. And "MUH male gaze".
Please, just let The Simpsons die already.
But we've got to have money!
@marianne mccrank Come on, who's with me, huh?
*stop...stop ITS ALREADY DEAD!*
The Simpsons still attention and still gets viewership.
@@andykishore That doesn't mean it shouldn't die.
So you've done:
Simpsons Animated Atrocities (Lisa Goes Gaga)
Simpsons Admirable Animation (Homer Badman)
Simpsons Animated Atrocities
(Miracle On Evergreen Terrace)
Simpsons Admirable Animation (Stark Raving Dad)
Simpsons Animated Atrocities
(Bart VS Itchy & Scratchy)
So the next Simpsons episode Enter might do will be an Admirable Animation.
If that's the case then I reccomend thanksgiving of horror or todd todd why hast thou forsaken me?
@@fodv93 Maybe another classic episode like Cape Feare, or Lisa The Vegetarian.
You Only Move Twice or Itchy And Scratchy Land would be a great one
Maybe.
Last Exit to Springfield has to be the next one at this point
This episode feels as though it was written by a fence sitter: someone who's critical of both sides, while having an incredibly poor understanding of both, and as a result, this episode's "message" feels entirely non-existent. Neither Bart nor Lisa come off as being in the right, nor of being in the wrong: the message only seems to be that involving yourself in politics is a pointless endeavor, because everyone who does is severely under-informed.
It feels like they made they story around the jokes and that's why one of the sides can't be proven wrong or it would go in a different direction. It's not concerned with actually fleshing out the message with nuanced writing.
So like Nostalgia Critic's review of Ghostbusters 2016 where Doug (or most likely his piece of shit brother, Rob) claims that the outrage/people boycotting the movie was only because of the first trailer?
For me, this episode feels like it was written by people on Tumblr.
Yeah, the mansplaining & manspreading stuff comes off as jabs at feminism but the encouraged victimization of Bart & the other boys comes off as hatred of all males so nothing about this episode seems like it was done in earnest. Bizarre garbage.
Ironically, that's a fairly accurate message and generally good advice; especially for people like myself who know and care little about politics.
14:56 I legitimately wanted someone to tape Lisa's mouth shut after that line. She did *nothing* except whine and complain for that entire episode, and by that point, I was just so done with her.
Oh but the cringeworthy internet references are okay! 😂
Yeah. One of those episodes where I wish I could enter in it just to make her shut the bloody hell up! She's just so obnoxious!
Watching this again after watching the video on Star Giant Productions definitely sheds new light on some of the editing here.
Yep.
the homestuck music isnt. fitting.
Sorry about all those things you said you were called, I really hate it when people use autistic as an insult
So do I
I'm glad that I rarely encounter people like that. But if I do, just bet that they won't have all their teeth by the end of the day.
I loath it
I was "insulted" by a guy calling me mentally disabled and I just responded with "Yeah I am autistic" and he called me gay and I responded "Actually I am bi but okay"
10:02- Haven't watched Simpsons in ages, but something feels really...off about Julie Kavner's delivery as Marge there.
Yeah she suppose to be hollering at Homer from across the street, since you know Julie's voice she can't get that properly.
Sounds like vocal deterioration.
You do a voice like that long enough and you end up sounding like you got throat cancer. Even as a kid I never liked it (born 1991, out of interest),
Jfc I thought it was audio from a vine or something put over a Simpsons clip- jesus-
Voice crackathon lol
“Cartoon women’s history”, huh, Lisa?
So you’re just going to conveniently leave out Kim Possible, Eliza Thornberry, Jenny Wakeman, Juniper Lee, Korra, Penny Proud, Star Butterfly, Mabel Pines, Ginger Foutley, Creepie Creecher, Bessie Higgenbottom, and God knows how many others?
It always seemed a bit disingenuous to me that people would claim there’s “not enough female representation in the media” when I can think of tons of great female characters.
A lot of the people who make claims like that seem to know very little of said media
Miss Frizzle
@marianne mccrank Maybe the joke would have made more sense if they went with Tina instead of Louise since a lot of people seem to like her, but to even call her a "strong female character" is debatable. A character like Quagmire is rightfully disliked for having an unhealthy obsession with women, but for some reason when Tina has an unhealthy obsession with boys, people find her "likable" and "relatable". I never understood that.
@@ShadowWolfRising Oh yeah, forgot her. Not to mention her class seems to be relatively balanced gender wise.
Carmen Sandiego, Penny Gadget, Gadget Hackwrench, the various incarnations of April O'Neil, Rogue/Storm/Jean Gray from Xmen, Wonder Woman, Rei Ayanami/Asuka Langley from Evangelion, most Studio Ghibli films, Sailor Moon & the Sailor Senshi, PreCure, & many others. These were just the ones from the top of my head.
Am I the only one that finds Julie Kavner's age is starting to show in her voice?
She needs to rest.
All the voice actors are getting really old but I doubt they will replace them
Marge's voice actor, Julie Kavner, was born on September 7, 1950 if that tells you anything.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 or play a different character
This episode of The Simpsons was disgusting. Episodes like these only hurt women’s rights because they make people believe that all feminists are like this. It’s even more hurtful to men because it was outright sexist and condescending to its male characters.
Aaaa h They were mocking a specific kind of male fan.
Gola245 Have you consider your taking the episode a bit to seriously.
Jessica Buttgereit this guy has not actually listened to what they say be nice
Jessica Buttgereit Proof?
Gola245
That’s sadly more true than people realize.
You know what I just realize,Lisa is basically the Brian griffin of the show.Think about it.They both started out as smart pseudo intelligence people who are the straight men to an world of insanity,annoyed by the others stupidity.Now their both pretentious,egotistical people who force their beliefs onto other people.The only difference is that while Brian is portray in the wrong at times,Lisa is always portray in the right,no matter how wrong she is,is always in the right,and at times,is just sociopathic as Brian griffin
Lisa's worse in that regard if you ask me. It's one thing having a prick on the show but it's another to have said prick be "in the right."
@@lorddrayvon1426 In the good ol' early days Lisa used to be the smartest one and the voice of reason and really had actual ideals and beliefs she fought for. Now she's just the worst caricature of a hypoctirical, self-righteous sjw snowflake imaginable.
Plus Braun can get the snot beaten.out of him by Quagmire but Lisa cant ge beaten up giving shes a girl and to a lesser extent a kid
I can definitely see where Velma got their inspiration with this episode lol
Worst part about this is that old Simpsons would be making fun of this type of message instead of actively participating in it.
I want someone to make videos about the old simpsons reacting to the new simpsons.
Marge doesn't sound like Marge anymore. Julie Kavner's voice is so grating now she sounds like Marge's mum.
She sounds like Patty and Selma.
She is nearly in her 70's.
I wonder what's the secret to stay sounding the same.
I mean the Japanese voice actress for Goku and his male family members is around 80 and still sounds the same from the 1980s.
@@mahiru20ten The thing she does with her voice to make Marge and her family is not good for her vocal cords, which is a big part of why her voice sounds like that. If she wasn't doing that, she likely wouldn't have as big of a problem.
i like what this one person said about the simpsons: “at one point it stopped being an animated sitcom and became a cartoon”
At Least Bob's Burgers is still Grounded & Down-to-Earth
In 1996, Ned Flanders called Lisa Simpson the answer to a question no one asked. Now, in the recent years, it's pretty much true.
Marge’s voice sounds so hoarse I’m worried for her
Poor VA lady :C
It's a miracle Julie Kavner can speak at all.
given that more then a couple of the va's have died I worry for the show in general
Chronic use of vocal fry (that creaky sound someone makes with their voice) is _terrible_ for your vocal chords. It's the equivalent of rubbing your vocal chords with sandpaper. Julie Kavner's natural voice, as well as her voices for Marge Simpson, Patty, and Selma, use a lot of vocal fry. So it doesn't surprise me that her voice is deteriorating.
It's still possible to take care of your voice well into old age. Rob Paulsen, the voice actor of Yakko Warner from Animaniacs and Pinky from Pinky and the Brain, was diagnosed with throat cancer and underwent treatment for it in 2016. It severely limited his vocal range for several months. I saw him perform in an Animaniacs Live show (where the voice actors perform their songs with a piano/orchestra) in 2017, and he sang great. His singing voice for Yakko Warner was even _better_ than it was in the 2012 Animaniacs bumpers he recorded for The Hub Network.
Marge voice actor, Julie Kavner, is turning 70 this year.
“In hell they make you watch every episode in a row.”
2 things
1: I’m starting to think that they might be true.
And 2: how come that’s the ONLY FUNNY JOKE IN THE MODERN SEASONS?
They should've called this episode, "The Simps".
Good choice.
I gave up on The Simpsons when on The Great Gatsby episode when Lisa chose a rich boy with a pony over a sweet poor boy. That was a complete and utter betrayal of what was once the character on the show.
Wow, to say Lisa has suffered severe flanderization over the years would be the understatement of the century...
glad I stopped watching before that ep
I'd rather she choose Millhouse.
@@billybarnett9518 No you wouldn't.
Largo: Nobody likes Milhouse!
What... She... That's not even Lisa Simpson at that point
"Infamous Simpsons episode" Dude that covers a lot of episodes.
"Now it has just as much of a clue of reality as Full House did back in the 80s"
That pretty much sums up the Simpsons downfall.
Yup...
What used to be a subversive parody of a traditional, boring family sitcom ended up becoming one itself.
“The simpsons had the decency to stay quiet”
-Mr Enter, early 2020
Aged like milk
At least the Simpsons don't pull ''shocking'' stunts like killing of a character just to bring them back a few episodes later and bring attention to it against.
@@animationunlimited2958 True, honestly even the worst Simpsons episodes like this one can't compare to the sheer atrociousness of some of the absolute worst Family Guy episodes...
Animation unlimited agreed, I wasn’t implying that family guy is better than the simpsons, the simpsons is just being loud and annoying because they love using language that’s “relevant”
"I don't know what to be liberal about anymore."
Neither do I, Marge. Neither do I.
Liberal and conservative are stupid labels anyway.
Just be a good person. Treat people like you want to be treated and...live. Get money, get friends, learn something new everyday.
the thing is the simpsons DID social commentary back in it's golden age but the Simpsons has spiraled to this point. look at south park it manages to be topical and generally is more accepted than modern simpsons.
Simpsons was timeless think about episodes like Bart gets an F or Marge vs the monorail, heck even Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington. they might've had topical reference but at the end of the day they had a timeless message that was careful to tell it. Mr. lisa goes to washington deals with corruption in the government but was careful to not butcher it's message and turned out to be one of the series best
South Park also takes about a week to write, voice, and animate because they work hard as fuck and keep things simple. They have an A plot and B plot that tend to start and end around the same time. The Simpsons takes months to come out and seems to have an A plot that starts at the start and ends in the middle, and a B plot that starts after the A plot starts and ends after the A plot ends. They also have nothing to do with one another except by theme and don't cross sometimes. It's horrible...
"wHy aRe YoU RiDiNg a MoToRCyClE"
Dead Marge
Why is Betty Boop a hallmark in women’s cartoon history? You do know she was basically a sexualized cartoon pinup, right Lisa?
Lisa would be saying "YoUr PoiNT iS inValid yOU aRe a FacIst NaZI, RaCist, MisOgYnist, mEAt eAting, MAle, I Am BEtter tHan YOu, BEcAuse I aM a Wuhmen"
Did they even try to represent the *women* who don't like this kind of social commentary? Because this particular episode might ironically come across as sexist. And not just toward men.
Seriously, if you want to promote girl power, just put us on equal ground with the men, not above them!
It really feels like this episode was written with no women in the room, it's important to have a diverse group of writers to be able to portray the points of views of those groups you are trying to write. They failed by attempting to pander only to end up making fun of the movement they are trying to pander to
@@kheuzi6558 This episode was actually written by a woman ironically, so it shows that poor understanding of equality issues is something a person of any gender can be guilty of.
@@AlkisenSuper thus episode is not good either way, even if it's meant to be serious or satire, because it's that bad
@@kheuzi6558 Agree. It feels like the episode was written by men who were given instructions to write an episode that would appeal to radical feminists.
I feel your pain Enter, my wife and I got Disney+ recently and we've been checking out recent Simpsons, and hoooo boy, it's gotten bad. There were a few decent episodes, like the one where Grandpa relates the story of how after the war he became the model for Army Men toys, but mostly they're just unpleasant and unfunny. Lisa is a nag, Bart is a sociopath, Marges VA sounds like she's either half asleep or dead inside. There's an episode themed around To Kill a Mockingbird, and whole chunks of it are just the actual movie footage being played on their TV, not even animated or anything, it's literally the live action movie clips!!
I always wondered if people were exaggerating about how bad modern Simpsons are, but lemme tell ya, they really aren't.
I can't be the only one who noticed that Marge dosen't sound like herself in the past few seasons.
This comments section would like to have a word with you.
Poor Julie...
The voice actor is like 70 though so it makes sense
This kind of episode and especially it’s message is honestly very scary and sexist as all hell. I hate to say it but these kinds of beliefs that are a hair away from saying “all men are pigs” offends me on every level. Edit: the simpsons used to do damn good social commentary too look at Homer Badman. It’s an episode I honestly believe some people should be forced to watch because of how serious the situation is of making decisions that big before having all the pieces. Yet here they are reduced to this.
4:51
And Nathan Drake was inspired by Lara Croft. A good character always inspires another one., regardless of gender, which is something that Hollywood fails to understand because they are to busy browsing twitter to see the new trends.
ValdemarCristino Fontenele Andrade Which is a bad idea cause Twitter is nothing but a cesspool.
@@Ashkihyena Exactly LOL
The tragic irony of that inspiration that eventually led to The Last of Us Part II.
I miss MLP, Alien, Tomb Raider, and actually good characters
Your logo is the eye of Xana from Code Lyoko. We are now friends
It's a damn shame... Well at least there's always someone who breaks the mold.
And Hat Kid and Fioria
Hello fellow fan of Code Lyoko.
@@ShadowWolfRising unfortunately, it is never coming back. Code Lyoko is deas
Says a lot when none of the members of Bossy Riot are even given names
Wait what? Really? Holy crap, they really did submit the first draft of the script as the final product
Go figure...
That is embarrassing
The Simpsons is like a rock band that becomes famous for sounding a certain way, over time they start to develop as human beings but make a conscious effort to continue sounding the same to please their audience. This traps them in a vicious cycle where they sound like an imitation of their former selves, which convinces them that they're losing touch, which convinces them to sound even more like an imitation of their former selves, which convinces them even more that they're losing touch, and so on and so on, until they're just a group of old men playing their greatest hits for the few people who remember them.
So like how Green Day turned out.
So when will The Simpsons start using the word Simps or Social Justice Warrior?
I am betting they will use terms like Stacies,Incels,Simps,Chads and other modern terms by 2022
They used Simp in episode 5 - Season 2, "Dancin' Homer"
Season 44
Prob around 2025
In 2033. Can't believe that that would use the word 'pwned' in an episode released in 2019.
Oh. You're marathoning the entirety of season 30?
That right there is _really_ bordering on masochism.
I mean dang
He’s pretty much just become numb to all of this shit hasn’t he?
@@francisfatta I'm sure he has. Remember, Mr. Enter owns the _Family Guy_ Season 12 DVD set, reviewed "Ren Seeks Help," and watched _Where the Dead Go to Die._ _The Simpsons_ season 30 is probably nothing in comparison.
It feels like the root of these problems starts with Lisa.
One written as an actual child, she’s mostly used as a mini adult nagging device. Getting vexed whenever Bart changes his mind on an issue, usually being the “I’m always right” character, constantly harping on everything that moves, and a few other flaws.
Seriously, Modern Lisa is a lot like Modern Brian Griffin, they’re nothing like what they were in the past and are just a shell of their former glory.
Marge: I'm such a noob.
Noob from Mortal Kombat: Don't make me Fatality your ass!
"Girls' clothing has no pockets!" A number of my skirts and dresses have pockets and good-sized pockets at that. It's like they took some random complaint someone posted online without bothering to find if it were true or not and then acted like it was some deep commentary. It would even be stupid if it were meant to be satire.
Also, if we're going to stick on that argument (i.e. Women have to stick with feminine dress even if it's incredibly inconvenient), then doesn't it logically extend to it being more socially acceptable for women to have accessories like handbags that carry more things/more conveniently than pockets on clothing?
If you're gonna try to invoke functionality as an argument, you're omitting the part that makes the topic less cut and dry.
Women's jeans are more likely to have fake/pointlessly small pockets. It's a minor issue but a genuine complaint in terms of clothing design itself. Weird thing to put on the same level as societal sexism though.
This isn't a great argument when Lisa only wears & seems to enjoy wearing the same outfit every single day. There's also nothing that's particularly... stopping you from putting pockets on a dress or skirt...The patriarchy isn't "anti-pockets"
I'm wearing jeans with pockets.
Michael Sinister Irony- If the school still had Home Ec classes, Lisa could have learned how to sew pockets onto her outfit (Marge can't teach her because she's too busy bailing Homer out of jail).
The Simps would be a much more accurate title for the show.
“The lip service” as well
Bart Simp at your service!
Is Ned Flanders still Bart's current teacher in his classroom because these days it's hard to tell if Bart has any teachers because Ms Krabappel is dead.
They killed off Mrs. Krabappel?!
@@zzz43344 Yeah Marcia Wallace died since 2013 as well Mrs Krabappel. I know it's been a long time ago
M S they kind of had to. Her VA passed
Yeah he is
Flanders is the teacher? tf? (i stopped watching in 2010)
Man I'm glad I stopped watching this show years ago
Same...
I prefer the older seasons. Like Seasons 1 through 8. They were pretty funny.
@Radfarious Lol
@@seanboyle7391 Yeah
Should have been canned in 2007
1989 : Skinner is a weiner
2018 : The Patriarch is a weiner
😔
As they said, The Simpsons stopped being The Simpsons when they instead to mercilessly attack pop culture became; HEY THIS IS A POP CULTURE REFERENCE, PLEASE LAUGH!!!
To quote Phelous: LAUGH, DAMN YOU!
@@monstercombo007 To quote Krusty the Clown; *_" what the hell was that!"_*
And when they had to stuff their episodes with celebrity guest stars. Please tell me that I'm not the only one taken out of an episode whenever I hear a badly-casted celebrity voice in this show. Note that I'm not talking about creative usages of celebrities, like Michael Jackson's guest appearance in "Stark Raving Dad." I'm talking about episodes that either a) have a celebrity guest star as him/herself in an episode that's devoted to kissing said celebrity's ass or b) cast a celebrity as a character that could have been played by anyone (especially if the voice doesn't match the character at all).
For me it died when they stopped making audio commentaries. It's good to know what the writers were on when they made the episodes. So far the last 264 are without commentaries (AKA, the HD era).
Oh god, the episode numbers are actually gone.
As long as the episodes themselves are fine, we can't complain.
You noticed that too?
Yeah I noticed that, why’d he decide to do that? It’s not really a bad thing, but I don’t know why he did away with the numbers.
He's gone the way of avgn
7:51 I love that the chart Lisa has on her wall there pretty much proves the point against this episode. All these characters are good... because they are from their own shows and are just... good. None of these are remake characters from reboot shows where they just flipped the gender, they are just... characters. They couldn't even do their own stupid point without popping a truck sized hole in it.
They turned Bart Simpson into Bart Simp.
I'll see myself out.
Kek
The simps
WHY YOU LITTLE!
I actually appreciate the concept of Bart against Itchy and Scratchy
Anything can be good if you try hard enough
Thank you man!
The concept is not bad, the episode execution was the straw that broke the viewer's back.
South Park IMO did a better job with Cartman being against Family Guy.
“Violence against women will normalise acts of violence against women “
Other then sounding like a conservative mother, can Someone explain to me how being protective of fictional women from any form of violence isn’t hilariously condescending to women? Lmao
It is, but if you tell women on Twitter that they'll just say you're an X.
Enter isn’t much better at commentary then they accused the Simpsons of. He was probably just trying to think of something negative to say.
@@elizabeth5561 moviebob comes to mind when you say that.
Because women wish to pick and choose when they are strong and independent and weak and feeble, requiring unlimited aid in the latter and men to be ignored in the former
Remember when people got mad because of the cover that depicted The joker attacking Batgirl?
By the way, which season was the episode in which Lisa went on a weird, rambling rant about a bedtime story not being politically correct, and then she and Marge looked straight into the camera while a picture of Apu was clearly visible on the nightstand? I was just baffled that they thought the scene was some deep statement. Audiences aren't going to think a scene is deep when they're too busy rolling their eyes. Edit- I checked and it's season 29, meaning it was a sign of the darker times to come.
That was the episode, No Good Read goes Unpunished, and that scene in particular was a response to a documentary called The Problem with Apu.
Bart is just not... Bart anymore. I feel like in the very recent seasons, he's just the writers' punching bag. More whiny and weak, and less of a prankster with a heart. And this episode is yet another one in which his own sister humiliates him. We've already seen him getting less attention and even losing a fight horribly to his sister in that season's "Daddicus Finch", as well as his father destroying his e-Sports career with absolutely no apology given whatsoever.
He might as well be male meg griffin.
"We'll bart how does it feel to be trolled ,memed , gif , and dare I say pawned"
- Lisa
It feels off lisa saying that
The bad thing is he was "trolled" so much he had a suicide attempt in the infamous baseball episode
and soft memed when his class wanted him to say Eat my shorts. This isn't or shouldn't be a new thing for him, uncomfortable yes but not new.
How do you do fellow kids
Hearing that almost made me barf... What have they done to Lisa?
James Warden wait wait what baseball episode
"Bart stop manplaining!!!"
Yeah, Bart just stop it, everyone knows that Feminazis lack the mental capacity to create counter arguments. How dare he wanting to ask the Karens to defend their ideas with facts, he such a bigot.
Especially idiotic because they're basically saying men talk too much even though they'd call it sexist if a man said it about them even though, in this case, Lisa was talking way too much & Bart wasn't.
i hate the word mansplaining- both men and women are capable of patronisingly explaining stuff
EmmaCRBsnewstuff can we just called it interrupted like we used to and tell people to apologize when they do.. most people would respect that..
I've been bitchsplained more in my life than mansplained.
@@D_YellowMadness hipocritical AND idiotic would be more accurate. "You talk too much so I'll talk more than you do in this entire episode."
HAVE NO FEARS, WE'VE GOT STORIES FOR YEARS
Unfortunately this was one
I think one of the most telling aspects of how non-focused this episode becomes is how the title "Bart vs Itchy and Scratchy" quickly becomes false advertising. We already have plenty of episodes with that same naming convention (Marge vs the Monorail, Homer vs Lisa and the 8th Comandment, Lisa vs Malibu Stacy, Bart vs Australia etc), and all of them manage to keep the conflict central to the plot.
In Bart vs Itchy and Scratchy, however, his opposition to the show is immediately dropped, and the plot instead centers around the antics of Bossy Riot and *Milhouse* going against the new version of Itchy and Scratchy. But I guess a title like "Bart vs the Patriarchy" wouldn't have as much marquee value, would it?
I feel like the only reason they did the vs. thing is because it'd bring in more diehard viewers who don't give two shits if the plot sticks.
I know this is 3 years later but modern Simpsons titles have done that a lot where they reference a older episode, Kamp Krustier being an example.
This wasn’t exactly supposed to be apart of the “X vs X” thing but a direct reference to the episode title “Marge Vs Itchy and Scratcy”.
Regardless your point still 100% stands I just wanted to point that out, and who knows maybe they did also add it because of how many vs. titles the show has
Mucho menos interesante sería milhouse o lisa vs el feminismo
So true. The title is really just false advertising, since Itchy & Scratchy actually have little to do with the central plot at all and merely serve as a plot device.
I didn't exactly like this episode either; hell, I'm rewatching Bojack Horseman again and it has a better grasp on commentary - even when it sledgehammers you on feminism, you can at least excuse that by it being an exaggerated version of our Hollywood.
The Simpsons doesn't even try and #MargeNeedsALozenge! Please, give Julie Kavner a drink on set, maybe some cough drops, something - because she sounds like she's halfway keeling over every time she says something.
Hollywood? You mean Hollywoo.
@@Differentad-mq9tk Yep. Hollywoo.
you think julie kavner this is bad?
a few years back they changed the hystorical italian dub, now that marge sounds like it's stucked to a respirator after a housefire
The thunder god 1223 no hollywoob
Bojack is genius at social satire because its absurdism can often be interpreted in either direction. And its main characters are morally complex that any message it might be trying to convey also ends up being realistically complex. Diane's feminist zeal is often portrayed as a character flaw, for example.
God, I've never heard anybody say "pwned" since 2010. Simpsons used to be edgy and ahead of the trend, appealing to the teenage/young adult crowd, now the writing staff sound like a bunch of boomers who get their pop culture research from 9gag archives.
Lisa USE to be my favorite character. Jesus Christ, they crucified, dragged, lynched, & set fire to that poor girl
Exactly. Such a shame her character turned into garbage.
blasphemous
@@francescomanzo3939 no, her characters become utter trash
I haven’t seen the word “noob” much since maybe 2014.
Or "pwned". Like, where did they get this stuff from?
The heck? But I see it all the time
wariolandgoldpiramid Back then I was more into games, so that’s probably why I don’t see it much now.
@Ribby The game played by 5 year olds?
@@eatatjoes6751 People still use pwned in the debate/argument sphere.
Admirable Animation Ideas:
Simpsons- You Only Move Twice/Homie The Clown
Kim Possible- Go Team Go
Spongebob- Idiot Box
Billy And Mandy- Keeper Of The Reaper
I have a few more ideas for admirable animation
X-Men-Graduation Day
Spider-Man Into the Spiderverse
The LEGO Movie
Robots
The Peanuts Movie
@Bobby Sharpe Holy shit dude, I still need to rewatch Robots, that was one of my favorites when I was about 5
I love the idiot box.
I have a few ideas-
Spirited Away
Any Other Film Done By Studio Ghibli
Any Episode of Cowboy Bebop
Any Episode Of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Any Episode Of My Hero Academia
Any Episode Of Hunter X Hunter
I'd just like to see Mr. Enter tackle more Japanese animation and talk about good animated stuff that wasn't made here in the U.S.
And this might be just me.
But I'd also like to hear his thoughts on the Internet Animated Shows made by Rooster Teeth (Camp Camp, Gen Lock, RWBY, ECT....).
A better thing is to request a review. Enter has stated that if he reviews something it will be determined as a admirable or an atrocity when he has viewed the peice of media in question.
Kind of feel bad for Marge Simpsons voice-actress considering there are voice actors who could replace the current ones and give them the break they need
Only eggs can sustain her.
@@DarthZ01 I go buy eggs for bart!
@@MediaGhost_ Bring her head of pig!!!
The genius of Lisa's entire outrage is that there are plenty of activists that SUPPORT allies using their positions of privilege to spread a message that would get otherwise get marginalized.
Unfortunately, much like this episode believe, there are people that think that you're not allowed to fight injustice unless you are directly suffering said injustice.
Well said
...I hate how gatekeepers are everywhere. Can't be a Christian if you haven't been in the faith since birth (so what exactly is the point of converting to Christianity?), can't be a true fan of this book/movie/tv series if you didn't read or watch all the installments AND know all the extra canon stuff from other forms of media (Ignoring that book to tv show or movie often has things being cut and each franchise has contradictions between works), and now...can't be a supporter for a movement against oppression...if you aren't the one being oppressed?
(Why in the holy mother of God's green Earth would you wish that to be the case for someone?)
Well they use non-oppressed people to get people to think certain groups aren't being reverse-racist etc but you are their puppet basically you can't have an opinion that defers from mainstream even if you think it would actually help them. That's why I'm a supporter of marginalized people but I'm not an SJW type.
This also highlights a very frequent contradiction within these movements. They're constantly screaming about how if you don't support them that makes you part of the problem, but when you try to show support they whine about how "you couldn't possibly understand" or "you have no right to talk about our problems". It's a lose/lose unless you're a part of whatever group they're virtue signalling for. The winning move is to not play, as they say.
I haven't watch Simpsons since late 2015 - What in Tartarus happened to Lisa and Marge? First of all Julie Kavner sounds like she is finally starting to go mute from the-Marge-voice; Yeardley Smith sounds like she is trying to do a voice for Maggie instead. But that aside, why is Lisa, the one who usually virtue signals, and learns lessons about that (at-least for individual causes if not as a whole), trying to lecture Bart on as such?
Also Bart using words like "Radical", "Eat my shorts!" or "Aye carumba" is less dated lingo than repeated uses of "noob", "trolled", "gifed". Take a good look 2010s audience, this is going to be your stereotype in a few years the same as everyone stereotypes 90s audiences as executive buzz words from the era's marketing. Have fun with that.
I think Late 2016 was when I stopped watching, Season 24 is when I think the show became completely boring
I haven't been keeping up with this show knowing how people have said that this show has been zombified, but hearing Marge's voice at 10:02 feels off.
It seems like that even the voice actors and actresses are becoming aware that they want this show to be over.
Who knows what happens if the show continues should one of the main voices passes away...
In Dragonball Super's Japanese airing, the voice of King Kai, Joji Yanami, had a very halfhearted delivery even when he was supposed to be full of energy. He was about 80 or so when he had to record those lines, and it was clear that age had rendered him very tired.
Julie Kavner, Marge's voice, is around 70 years old herself. If I had to guess, she's also starting to get tired and her performance is suffering because of it. Your voice naturally gets weaker and changes as you get older. She probably is still trying for a good delivery but just can't anymore.
I was noticing that myself, I'm wondering if some of the voice actors are starting to feel those 600 episode vocally.
If Marge actually DIES. . .
I Think then & ONLY Then will they Cancel the Show
The whole "controversy" over the new black Ariel in The Little Mermaid is especially frustrating because Disney is going to try to paint everyone who criticizes them over it as a racist. _No, Disney_ . If you made a new movie (especially animated) about a world of mermaids with a leading lady who was black, I would be over the Goddamned _moon_ . I *want* to get to know a new character, learn her origins, her personality, learn her history, see how she approaches adversity.
Live action remakes of animations are just lazy and money-grubbing and they show that Disney is actively scornful of original ideas. I'm not just saying that- Disney shut down production of the very promising Star Darlings (an original series) and Fogbank Studio, which was another studio dedicated to making intricate, beautifully animated, detailed storytelling mobile games. They figure they can deflect criticism by using minorities as a shield (Sooo groundbreaking to pull a Rowling and say that a tertiary/background character is LGBTQ) or pretending that criticism is somehow taking away the kids' enjoyment. And I say this as an FTM asexual Indo-Guyanese person. Goddamn, I can't wait until the idiot fossils in power die off so we can get actual creatives in there.
I'm so sick of the live action remakes.
Sadly disney has learned that they can get away with raping corpses in their basement because its profitable and there's enough people who didn'tt see the originals that they can fob off second rate live action trash with those names and people will see it.
I don see any problem with i.
Reminder the last official Disney 2d animated movie was The Princess And The Frog in 2009... I actually enjoyed the movie a lot despite people complaining about a darker skinned cast of characters being made for the sake of right and all, though the slight racial undertones considering the time the movie takes place, understandable.
I agree with op, make a new movie instead of remakes. And if you're making remakes, at least make them enjoyable, the live action beauty and the beast was fairly well done, but a lot of others haven't been. I'm not racist or anything but if a obviously white character exists make it a white actor/actress, if a character like Ursula exists being purple skinned, make anyone have the chance to play them, the same way Will Smith played Genie (though that is incredibly dumb casting choice from just first look). And to make sure I don't sound one sided to some. I don't wanna see The Princess and the Frog remake having the main cast being white people, it makes zero sense considering the characters' actual character.
(Oh and I'm not counting Winnie the pooh 2011 as a official Disney mainline movie for obvious reasons)
Just want to mention that Hollywood in general seems to want to get rid of red heads, they've been replacing a lot of red head characters with black people.
So much for respecting minorities am I right?
Remember when the Simpsons would mock both sides of the political spectrum, I do too.