Whispiness? I like that it's 6 khz it's makes the sound shiny I know what you're talking about I also like that warm bass that sounds more kinda "rich" but once heard the variations bass I don't like other earphones bass that's the problem It's so clean and rumbly like a subwoofer
my library has electronic, female vocals and not much guitar, variations sound end-game in every one of the tracks, however I can't use the case and the eartips are bad, try with cp145 eartips, worked wonders for my fit and sound.
Most reviews of Harman bass has the same impression. Lack of texture and weight of the bass and drum instruments . I'm sure the sub bass quality is very good though. I saw a good video with Dan Clark talking about the Harman target. Good review man
@@HobbyTalk I'm a basshead but I like high quality mids and highs too. Well , if his bass has a lot of punch and is deep then I 'll like it . Until today I haven't seen bass like the XBA-Z5, very strong when called, very deep. But it's an iem that requires energy. Thank you.
The cons of variation is missing extension on mid bass, vocal too centric cause some song’s vocal seems way behind the instrument…u can review the ThieAudio Oracle which is my favourite IEM, it’s better than Moondrop variation
Hello friend, help me decide, please, there are some good deals on cyber Monday, do you think the Variations soundstage are noticeably bigger than the Tangzu Wu? Both are discounted...
Personally no, I don’t find a big sound stage difference. Some argue that the lower bass tuck in variations leads to a larger sense of space but I disagree with that. I prefer the wu over variations personally.
If anyone needs a better variations cable, just need to contact me. lol Your impressions are spot on and the improvement requirements are the same. I also have the same issue with this iem. Just needs that lower mids boost.
@@HobbyTalk try my eq and the problem is solved. It increases the lower mids, also lowers the shout as everyone calls it and a adds minor boost with treble extension around 18k. My eq will make it endgame. haha
@@gustavoreview Here's a more updated version. It sounds more neutral Preamp: -1.8 dB Filter 1: ON PK Fc 79 Hz Gain -1.6 dB Q 0.600 Filter 2: ON PK Fc 280 Hz Gain 2.1 dB Q 1.000 Filter 3: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain -2.3 dB Q 2.000 Filter 4: ON PK Fc 7000 Hz Gain 2.3 dB Q 1.500 Filter 5: ON PK Fc 8000 Hz Gain -8.7 dB Q 2.000 Filter 6: ON PK Fc 10000 Hz Gain 4.5 dB Q 2.000 Filter 7: ON PK Fc 16000 Hz Gain -7.4 dB Q 2.000
I'm not an audiophile but I was thinking of getting this, I have the galaxy buds pro and want an upgrade from that, I like bass so I found my way here. So I've got a question, would this be an upgrade from that? And also the moondrop kato which I got but now want to return since it is too similar to my galaxy buds, being wired, kind of heavy, and just more inconvenient to use so kind of useless to me.
This would 100% be an upgrade to galaxy buds. You could get a TWS adapter too if you’d like. Kato is a bit lean in comparison to this but all depends what you’re looking for.
@Hobby Talk oh yeah, I already have the kato. I'm probably going to return it and put the money towards something else like this. So would you think the variations would be good for bass?
@@oredaxmc2871 depends on the music… for most people it’s probably amazing, for me I prefer a bit more mid bass… if you want to try a cheap IEM with lots of bass the QKZ x HBB is a great option. There is two versions, the khan is quite good as well and is similar to Variations bass.
People do not mention that the Variations can handle and sound amazing when driven with a 4,000 mW dac amp.....WoW....I even listened to Good Morning Mrs. Smith on my iFi IDSD Micro Signature on my Macbook Pro at 2,000 mW 50% power and no sibilance and sounded amazing..... I like them better than my EJ07
@@HobbyTalk idk what to do its just lacks body and soul for me. Sold the heyday for it because the treble was too peaky for me but overall its an awesome set. I love the vari for subbass heavy genres but for rock and epic soundtracks or orchestra its just not that good even boring.
@@HobbyTalk even the details arent that impressive (huge step up from mangird tea or fiio fh3) but not from a planar. Should I sell it or keep it :-( ?? I think I wait for a planar that is made for treble sensitive people like me. Would you tweak it with eq or sell it ?
@@mysteriousstranger332 im treble sensitive myself… most planars have some spice… heyday and P1 Max are your best bet… you can try to auto EQ variations to my target: hobbytalk.squig.link/?share=Hobby_Talk_Preference_Target,Moondrop_Variations … but yeah I didn’t love variations enough to buy it. It’s okay and I definitely see why others like it but wasn’t for me.
I've been considering the Variations but have been kind of put off by the bass tuck. I too am a bass player and a bass head when it comes to listening to music most of the time. I've found the MEST mkll to be the most realistic sounding bass I've heard. That being said I normally listen to the Kinera Nanna 2.0 or 2.1 with I'm just listening for enjoyment.
0:35 your video is too blurry for me, but do you put the arrow "on top / outside", or you put the arrow "under / inside"? Theres no instruction and the cable connector seems to fit both ways... thanks
@@Medsas I’m not sure to be honest, I no longer have the loaner unit as I have returned it to the owner. Looked up pictures and it seems to only fit one way: everydaylistening.net/2021/08/01/moondrop-variations-review/
@HobbyTalk ok thanks, it fits two ways lol you can rotate 180 degrees from that picture, theres a notch both at top and bottom, thats why its confusing lol
Yeaahh!!!! Notha overated moondrop iem, put out ta pasture...in that mid tier $$ , the price to performance will never appen imo...nice review on the iem....whizzer/ cca/ tinhifi/ ..ya ever get a chance to review the whizzer he01/ kylin, id like to see that review..peace
@@HobbyTalk I just purchased a tribrid iem foe 15 bucks off amazon...Revonext rx8s...its a tribrid iem that plays well..esp foe 15 bucks...ran a pink noise burn in last night on it, see if i could tame down couple a rough edges, with the 2 baz it has...was just listenin ta pink floydz / us and them/ any colour ya like vid on yt...revonext rx8s plays pink floyd songs really good...pf song one of these days, also soundz great thru them....15 fn dollars for a 40 dollar iem...im.ok with that..no xpectations means im gonna njoy it more...yeah!!! Schek out, the whizzer kylin/ he01...75 to 80 bucks..the transparent and gold shells are a little to gaudy for me..butt..they ave the he01b in black shells....there nice lookin...thanx for ur reply..
@@HobbyTalk abb sa loot lee..problem with mid tier to really outrageous priced iems..numro ono..i know this is a clean channel, but hyere in the lower 48s, theres a sayin, for that much money, that better be able to blank my blank...I luv budget iems, whizzer bs1/ cca cra/ tinhifi 3 plus was a splurge for me, couple of revonext iems, rx6/ rx8s, got both for 25 bucks..they play well...for that price 500 bucks, you know and i know, your gonna need xpensive dacs/ amps/ and even with spending more on thoze add ons to the 500 dollar pricetag, a person can just plug a 3.5 iem/ budget/ no xpectations and be happy with that...i know i am....anywho!!! Ill be schekin out ur tangzu wan ner review for sure...I errd of all the budget iems, that audio people think are great budget iems, the wann nerrr might be the best outta all of em..they give ya 6 pairs of eartips/ decent to nice cable, shells look great....imo!!! What more do you need with an iem....yeah...cant wait for ur wan. nerrrr review..peace
Agree....though it is bass heavy set, it is an end game iem for me... Please do compare this wonderful iem with other iems ...
I have it for a bit longer… might be able to do a shoot out
Whispiness? I like that it's 6 khz it's makes the sound shiny I know what you're talking about
I also like that warm bass that sounds more kinda "rich" but once heard the variations bass I don't like other earphones bass that's the problem
It's so clean and rumbly like a subwoofer
6k sounds about right… guitar string slides hurt at times. If it raised a bit more maybe up to 250 it might suit me better
Do you still think the Serratus and planars like Tangzu, Timeless and Z12 are better for your library?
Yes, I am not buying this IEM because I skip 70% of my library
my library has electronic, female vocals and not much guitar, variations sound end-game in every one of the tracks, however I can't use the case and the eartips are bad, try with cp145 eartips, worked wonders for my fit and sound.
Totally! With electronic this sounded nuts!!!
Cp155 better they same but fit right with the barrel
I find Final Audio Silicone case to be the most pocketable carrying case ever made from any major brand.
Most reviews of Harman bass has the same impression. Lack of texture and weight of the bass and drum instruments . I'm sure the sub bass quality is very good though. I saw a good video with Dan Clark talking about the Harman target. Good review man
Thank you! Ya, Dan clark improved on harman with his tunings imo… that being said, over ear harman is way better than in ear harman haha thank you!
Please : As for the basses, the Variations has more bass in terms of punch/range/depth than the Sony XBA-Z5 ?
Havnt tried the Sony sorry… Variations bass is fun if you can deal with the lower mid tuck
@@HobbyTalk I'm a basshead but I like high quality mids and highs too. Well , if his bass has a lot of punch and is deep then I 'll like it . Until today I haven't seen bass like the XBA-Z5, very strong when called, very deep. But it's an iem that requires energy. Thank you.
Still my favorite, I think. Time to try the ie600?
The guy I borrowed these from just bought those haha
I tried this once, I really liked the sound.
I didn't perceived the bass tuck
I think it’s not abnormal to most, it’s only weird to me cause I’m used to hearing/feeing a bass guitar while I play
@@HobbyTalk me having the same feeling , song missing the soul to me due to this cons
@@WillA-wf4uu glad others hear it too haha
Me neither, the tremble is what I'm sensitive about, and variation does it awesomely
The cons of variation is missing extension on mid bass, vocal too centric cause some song’s vocal seems way behind the instrument…u can review the ThieAudio Oracle which is my favourite IEM, it’s better than Moondrop variation
I’d love to try the oracle… yeah, the lower mids on variations just a deal breaker for me…
I like it that way, fuck vocals
The Variations are definitely better than the Orcacle
Hello friend, help me decide, please, there are some good deals on cyber Monday, do you think the Variations soundstage are noticeably bigger than the Tangzu Wu? Both are discounted...
Personally no, I don’t find a big sound stage difference. Some argue that the lower bass tuck in variations leads to a larger sense of space but I disagree with that. I prefer the wu over variations personally.
@@HobbyTalk thank you very much! I'm getting the Wu for 90 bucks with coupons, what a steal! 😍
@@EduRB99 great deal!!! I like Wu a lot… currently my favorite
What eq do you do to get rid of the bass tuck?
I don’t own variations… sorry, it’s been a long time since I’ve listened to it
If anyone needs a better variations cable, just need to contact me. lol
Your impressions are spot on and the improvement requirements are the same. I also have the same issue with this iem. Just needs that lower mids boost.
This dude gets it! Haha yeah, definitely recommend a cable swap…
@@HobbyTalk try my eq and the problem is solved. It increases the lower mids, also lowers the shout as everyone calls it and a adds minor boost with treble extension around 18k. My eq will make it endgame. haha
@@BASS_ORange yeah, I did the best I could to match with the eq I have and it is better
@@BASS_ORange hi, what is your EQ?
@@gustavoreview Here's a more updated version. It sounds more neutral
Preamp: -1.8 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 79 Hz Gain -1.6 dB Q 0.600
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 280 Hz Gain 2.1 dB Q 1.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain -2.3 dB Q 2.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 7000 Hz Gain 2.3 dB Q 1.500
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 8000 Hz Gain -8.7 dB Q 2.000
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 10000 Hz Gain 4.5 dB Q 2.000
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 16000 Hz Gain -7.4 dB Q 2.000
I hope you've discovered the earwax filters by now 😅
I don’t own it gaha
Waiting for ur review on blessing 2
Hopefully I can borrow it or try it one day :)
I'm not an audiophile but I was thinking of getting this, I have the galaxy buds pro and want an upgrade from that, I like bass so I found my way here. So I've got a question, would this be an upgrade from that? And also the moondrop kato which I got but now want to return since it is too similar to my galaxy buds, being wired, kind of heavy, and just more inconvenient to use so kind of useless to me.
This would 100% be an upgrade to galaxy buds. You could get a TWS adapter too if you’d like. Kato is a bit lean in comparison to this but all depends what you’re looking for.
@Hobby Talk What does it mean that the kato is "lean"? And thank you for getting back to me!
@@oredaxmc2871 not a ton of bass… if you like a lot of bass wouldn’t recommend it.
@Hobby Talk oh yeah, I already have the kato. I'm probably going to return it and put the money towards something else like this. So would you think the variations would be good for bass?
@@oredaxmc2871 depends on the music… for most people it’s probably amazing, for me I prefer a bit more mid bass… if you want to try a cheap IEM with lots of bass the QKZ x HBB is a great option. There is two versions, the khan is quite good as well and is similar to Variations bass.
People do not mention that the Variations can handle and sound amazing when driven with a 4,000 mW dac amp.....WoW....I even listened to Good Morning Mrs. Smith on my iFi IDSD Micro Signature on my Macbook Pro at 2,000 mW 50% power and no sibilance and sounded amazing..... I like them better than my EJ07
Interesting… good to know!
variations is endgame and ill just eq bass tuck and the lower mids
Fair enough… haha
How did you eq the mid bass ?
I don’t use EQ much myself. It’s been a long time since I made this video and I don’t remember tbh
@@HobbyTalk idk what to do its just lacks body and soul for me. Sold the heyday for it because the treble was too peaky for me but overall its an awesome set. I love the vari for subbass heavy genres but for rock and epic soundtracks or orchestra its just not that good even boring.
@@HobbyTalk even the details arent that impressive (huge step up from mangird tea or fiio fh3) but not from a planar.
Should I sell it or keep it :-( ??
I think I wait for a planar that is made for treble sensitive people like me. Would you tweak it with eq or sell it ?
@@mysteriousstranger332 im treble sensitive myself… most planars have some spice… heyday and P1 Max are your best bet… you can try to auto EQ variations to my target: hobbytalk.squig.link/?share=Hobby_Talk_Preference_Target,Moondrop_Variations … but yeah I didn’t love variations enough to buy it. It’s okay and I definitely see why others like it but wasn’t for me.
Will I hear a difference in anything by switching my 3.5 end to 4.4?
Only if the amp some reason changes between inputs… the iem itself doesn’t change.
I've been considering the Variations but have been kind of put off by the bass tuck. I too am a bass player and a bass head when it comes to listening to music most of the time. I've found the MEST mkll to be the most realistic sounding bass I've heard. That being said I normally listen to the Kinera Nanna 2.0 or 2.1 with I'm just listening for enjoyment.
Ya, if you’re a bass player I’d advise against variations it sounds weird to me for bass guitar
xenns top fixes that
0:35 your video is too blurry for me, but do you put the arrow "on top / outside", or you put the arrow "under / inside"? Theres no instruction and the cable connector seems to fit both ways... thanks
Sorry about that, auto focus can be a jerk sometimes
@HobbyTalk ok but do you know the answer lol? how do you plug in the connector for the variations stock cable
@@Medsas I’m not sure to be honest, I no longer have the loaner unit as I have returned it to the owner. Looked up pictures and it seems to only fit one way: everydaylistening.net/2021/08/01/moondrop-variations-review/
@HobbyTalk ok thanks, it fits two ways lol you can rotate 180 degrees from that picture, theres a notch both at top and bottom, thats why its confusing lol
@@Medsas it seems rounded in one side and strait in the other tho
I love my Variations 😋
I changed the cable ( better 4.4 ) and run SpinFit 100’s
When out and about..IFI Go Blue 👍
Ya, I liked Spinfit 100 myself too… such a dope set
raptgo hook x better than these?
For my library yes… but I listen to primarily rock and male vocal lead music.
Yeaahh!!!! Notha overated moondrop iem, put out ta pasture...in that mid tier $$ , the price to performance will never appen imo...nice review on the iem....whizzer/ cca/ tinhifi/ ..ya ever get a chance to review the whizzer he01/ kylin, id like to see that review..peace
Will look into those IEMs quick, thanks! Yeah, this one just ain’t for me… Moondrop in general, nothing I love yet.
@@HobbyTalk I just purchased a tribrid iem foe 15 bucks off amazon...Revonext rx8s...its a tribrid iem that plays well..esp foe 15 bucks...ran a pink noise burn in last night on it, see if i could tame down couple a rough edges, with the 2 baz it has...was just listenin ta pink floydz / us and them/ any colour ya like vid on yt...revonext rx8s plays pink floyd songs really good...pf song one of these days, also soundz great thru them....15 fn dollars for a 40 dollar iem...im.ok with that..no xpectations means im gonna njoy it more...yeah!!! Schek out, the whizzer kylin/ he01...75 to 80 bucks..the transparent and gold shells are a little to gaudy for me..butt..they ave the he01b in black shells....there nice lookin...thanx for ur reply..
@@HobbyTalk tangzu wan ner, is getting great reviews...for 16 to 20 bucks, gotta 10 mm driver, and i errd the bass on the wan ner is sublime
@@ikejennings1154 Wanner should arrive today for me… I’ll have to check out the other ones you mentioned tho… I fricking love cheap gear hahaha
@@HobbyTalk abb sa loot lee..problem with mid tier to really outrageous priced iems..numro ono..i know this is a clean channel, but hyere in the lower 48s, theres a sayin, for that much money, that better be able to blank my blank...I luv budget iems, whizzer bs1/ cca cra/ tinhifi 3 plus was a splurge for me, couple of revonext iems, rx6/ rx8s, got both for 25 bucks..they play well...for that price 500 bucks, you know and i know, your gonna need xpensive dacs/ amps/ and even with spending more on thoze add ons to the 500 dollar pricetag, a person can just plug a 3.5 iem/ budget/ no xpectations and be happy with that...i know i am....anywho!!! Ill be schekin out ur tangzu wan ner review for sure...I errd of all the budget iems, that audio people think are great budget iems, the wann nerrr might be the best outta all of em..they give ya 6 pairs of eartips/ decent to nice cable, shells look great....imo!!! What more do you need with an iem....yeah...cant wait for ur wan. nerrrr review..peace