Medieval Close Helmet 1: Making the Pattern and Starting the Skull
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2018
- The first episode in a series of me making a rare example of a 15th century close-helmet from 14 and 16 gauge mild steel. Stick around for more videos of this process!
Here is the paper by Dr. Capwell:
www.academia.edu/4037316/A_He...
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I’m quite surprised about your videos. I have been seeing a lot of medieval armor videos lately (Ian Laspina, Metatron, etc.) and when I clicked on yours I thought you were just going to talk about the helmet. And no... you BUILT the helmet.
Wow. I subscribed and hope you keep this up !
Thank you, I aim to stand out!
...I wonder if sharpies can freeze to the point where they no longer function...
also I love this! I didn't know about this style of close helm, it's very interesting, thank you!
(also, can I ask about the stripy bee(?) costume on the armor stand behind you? 😂)
In my experience they function about the same in cold weather, just with a shorter lifespan. The mannequin felt a little naked without armor on it, so I gave it that costume to fill it in until I could pile the plates back on :)
This is great, love watching this, cant wait for more.
damn ur drawingskills are pretty good
love this Video its really informative and interesting!
Keep up the good work! :)
3:56 Motionless Album!
How much does your anvil weight?
how did they do this without welding it? or did they use forge welding to accomplish something similar?
You’ve got some mad skills!
Thank you! :)
COOL!
What welding system are you using?
Where do you get your steel sheets at?
How thick is iron ?
Hay I find your use of tools and items quite resourceful and must applaud you. And I also have a question. Would you ever want to try and make a helmet the way they did in period without the aid of welding and all that. I’d find it quite interesting to see the comparison.
Thank you very much! Raising a helmet the historical way has been something I would like to do for a while, though I suspect I'd start with something smaller to get the hang of it. To do very deep raising I would need to get my hands on a suitable torch, or maybe build a purpose made forge. Unfortunately, I don't build enough armor now for me to be able to justify the cost of either of those. Maybe sometime down the road though.
If you're interested in seeing the raising process done very well I would recommend Eric Dube's videos: ua-cam.com/channels/Qc3EOGXOnMmvMZnOfgYOAw.html
Living Manuscript I must thank you ever so much for taking time out of your busy day to respond to my comment. I agree that it would have to be something further down the line with not only more experience but I’d suggest a more dedicated work space to skew the chances of a dangerous accident. There was once a case of a guy building a forge in his garage and he left it on to heat up and due to a gas leak from his boiler it of course ignited and took quite a chunk out of his home. Luckily no one was hurt.
I also thank you for the link and do wish you a wonderful day.
May you be safe, loved but most of all happy always.
From: Mr TeaTime.
I found it, thank you brother
Qual è lo spessore del ferro stai usando ?
Dishing thins out the metal. DO NOT DISH. Even if it's historically accurate, safety is paramount. Man at arms reforged (MAAR) did a great explanation when they made a replica of the shield from the recent Wonder Woman movie. I work metal hot over a ball stake I made out of a shotput. Works just as well, and MAAR did that in a similar fashion to prevent thinning.
Thank you for the advice, though I am aware that dishing thins the metal. I hate to make excuses, but the reason I dished and welded was simply because I do not currently have a heat source that enables me to raise such a deep skull. Although the patterning helps alleviate this problem by creating a very deep shape immediately instead of starting from a single flat sheet and dishing it to the required depth. Perhaps it would have been better to show more of this process in the video than I ended up letting on, but what I did more than dishing the sides out to meet the point made by bending the metal was use a small torch (not enough for raising, but enough to heat small areas. ) to heat the point and the area around the point and use a flat faced hammer to push it back in (This was even done cold a few times), which I understand does the opposite of thinning the metal out, in that particular spot, at least. I have yet to measure the exact millimeters deformation, but between the depth afforded by the patterning and the skull being made from 14 gauge steel, I think it is perfectly safe. Add in that there is a suspension liner that has it's own reasonable padding and there is even that extra layer of protection.
Sometimes when making armor I get carried away and take processes for granted, and when editing the video the same phenomenon occurs. Human error is a bit of a bane of my existence so mistakes are made more often than I would like. Thank you again for your advice, I hope I have justified myself satisfactorily, and I'll make sure to mention this in the following video about this helmet. Thanks
If a sore lip is an issue I doubt he’s fighting in a crowd where a helmet caving in is a concern.
Precisely! I mostly fight in individual bouts and more spread out group fighting where this sort of thing is just fine, I really wish the weight and measurements of this helmet were published so that I could compare the two to determine the approximate thickness of the original. I believe that for something like Buhurt mild steel helmets are required to be made from 2.5(?)mm steel (should be fine for SCA if I ever did that though). Though I would like to say that it's not so much of a sore lip as much as just eating the blade straight to my teeth haha.
Living Manuscript what I meant to say is that you aren’t full contact fighting
Not that I’m hating on you for it
just found your channel love this video. going to go through some of your vids to see all the tools you use and if you have any tutorials on the lining of parts and on how to shape the various pieces. but out of curiosity are you using a MIG welder? if so why a MIG why not an ARC?
I'm glad you like it! I'm actually hoping to release a video about making a helmet liner soon. It's a little hard to tell, but that is actually a flux cored wire fed welder so the shielding is on the wire itself. I chose that one all those years ago mostly because it was the most cost effective for me and could be plugged into a normal outlet. I've been looking into some other welders since I'm doing more work with different materials now though, possibly a TIG welder.
@@LivingManuscript I like the Tig but i think the old arc welder is a bit more affordable. though it is dependent on the area you live and what is more available. i'm actually looking for a hobby now that i'm disabled. and armor making seems a nice way to use some of my metal working skill and make a small amount of money on the side so you may see some questions pop up now and then as i run into difficulties or i just want a different perspective on how to do something. lol hope you don't mind.
Eyeslayer I find it to be a very fulfilling activity, feel free to ask any questions you have 🙂
Are there any good th groups for 14th century armor that you know of?
I can recommend a few online groups for 14th century armor, or do you mean more like physical 14th century groups?
Really nice work!
Have you tried raising instead of dishing and welding? It takes a very long time, but you get the helmet in one piece.
Very nice work indeed!
Thank you! I've tried raising on some smaller and thinner pieces, but nothing as large as a helmet since I don't have a great way of heating the metal at the moment. I've been looking into an oxy/acetylene torch setup so that I can give it a shot though!
@@LivingManuscript I use a cheap Chinese induction heater of approximately 2000 watts. It's not perfect but it was cheap and you do not have to use open flames. It might work for you to.
could you make tutorial on liners?
Sure thing, it'll be covered when I make the liner for this helmet.
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Where is the rest
I'll probably upload the next video later this weekend, Sunday I hope.
I’ve been literally reading up on Closed sallets lmao
Haha, they are very fascinating helmets for sure.
Are you german?
Nope, but my state has a lot of German influence if that counts for anything haha
@@LivingManuscript i think so hahah
Can you like make one and let me buy it? Lol
Well I have recently started taking commissions, so if you're interested I'm sure something could be worked out. In honesty though, it will take some time because of my transportation circumstances.