Adam Miller’s writing speaks to my soul in a profound way. An Early Resurrection was like a life raft during my faith crisis a few years ago. My deepest thanks to you, Brother Miller. I can’t wait to read this new book!
Great program--this episode and overall--thanks! At 31:00, Dr. Miller says that our (i.e., the LDS) religion could/should "be clearer about the nature of what's going on in Christ's Atonement, and exactly what kind of problem His Atonement is meant to solve. And it's not the kind of problem, I think, that traditional Christianity thinks it is." I would so like to hear an elaboration of this comment; specifically, a statement of the "problem" and of how, operationally (economically? juridically?) the Atonement resolves (at least potentially) the problem. Frankly, it touches directly on my central "difficulty" with religion/Christianity/Mormonism at the moment. I listened thru to the end of the podcast. At the end (and throughout) I heard that disciples of Christ, "like" Christ and "like" the Father are called to sacrifice all things. But is the meaning/function of the Atonement just as a sort of ultimate example? "Do as you have seen me do"? Somehow that doesn't satisfy me. What else is it?
Although I enjoyed this podcast and appreciate Adam Miller's thoughts a lot, I have to say that I may disagree a bit with the way loss and death seems to be portrayed in his words. And maybe I understand them in wrong way, but from what I hear, it seems to me that there is absolute opposition between what the "world" is and what God is. Like one has to "completely" pass away for the other to come forth, which is where I would disagree... My understanding of the Restoration, the Plan of Salvation, or the millenium to come tends more towards the idea of a God who would influence and assist us in ourselves, and the world, slowly becoming more "celestial". This would obviously involve loss and death to a great extent but it also allows recognizing the good that's already there and to keep building on it. Would love to hear some other thoughts and opinions about that. Anyway, thank you for the great content this Insitute is always providing us with!
Thanks for the comment! This is Blair Hodges. I appreciate how different people can bring different things out of the text like this. One way Adam's approach helped me was that it recognized real losses that happen in our lives today. For example: I really miss the little Kindergarten daughter I had. She's in second grade now. I love my second grader, but oh how I miss her littler self too. And that moment of my life has passed away and it isn't coming back. And part of God's plan for my life includes "losses" like that.
Adam Miller’s writing speaks to my soul in a profound way. An Early Resurrection was like a life raft during my faith crisis a few years ago. My deepest thanks to you, Brother Miller. I can’t wait to read this new book!
So glad you enjoyed that book. We're really excited for his brief theological introduction to Mormon!
I think only those who have grown a little tired and older in the world will feel an empowering increase of joy from so somber a message.
It's a sort of discipleship that only time can accommodate, it seems.
Wow! I can’t express how wonderful this discussion is! Sign me up for the book.
Wonderful!
These books will make great Christmas gifts... I've started collecting them...I hope they all come out by Christmas 🎄💝
We hope so too!
This one feels especially on point during covid-19. Thank you so much!
Glad you liked it! Thank you for listening.
Great program--this episode and overall--thanks! At 31:00, Dr. Miller says that our (i.e., the LDS) religion could/should "be clearer about the nature of what's going on in Christ's Atonement, and exactly what kind of problem His Atonement is meant to solve. And it's not the kind of problem, I think, that traditional Christianity thinks it is." I would so like to hear an elaboration of this comment; specifically, a statement of the "problem" and of how, operationally (economically? juridically?) the Atonement resolves (at least potentially) the problem. Frankly, it touches directly on my central "difficulty" with religion/Christianity/Mormonism at the moment. I listened thru to the end of the podcast. At the end (and throughout) I heard that disciples of Christ, "like" Christ and "like" the Father are called to sacrifice all things. But is the meaning/function of the Atonement just as a sort of ultimate example? "Do as you have seen me do"? Somehow that doesn't satisfy me. What else is it?
Hi John! See Miller's forthcoming book, and his previous book called "An Early Resurrections" for more about these things.
Hello! His book "Original Grace" deep dives into this question precisely. If it's on your heart maybe you should check it out. :)
Very interesting. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Although I enjoyed this podcast and appreciate Adam Miller's thoughts a lot, I have to say that I may disagree a bit with the way loss and death seems to be portrayed in his words. And maybe I understand them in wrong way, but from what I hear, it seems to me that there is absolute opposition between what the "world" is and what God is. Like one has to "completely" pass away for the other to come forth, which is where I would disagree... My understanding of the Restoration, the Plan of Salvation, or the millenium to come tends more towards the idea of a God who would influence and assist us in ourselves, and the world, slowly becoming more "celestial". This would obviously involve loss and death to a great extent but it also allows recognizing the good that's already there and to keep building on it. Would love to hear some other thoughts and opinions about that.
Anyway, thank you for the great content this Insitute is always providing us with!
Thanks for the comment! This is Blair Hodges. I appreciate how different people can bring different things out of the text like this. One way Adam's approach helped me was that it recognized real losses that happen in our lives today. For example: I really miss the little Kindergarten daughter I had. She's in second grade now. I love my second grader, but oh how I miss her littler self too. And that moment of my life has passed away and it isn't coming back. And part of God's plan for my life includes "losses" like that.
💝🌞👏💙 wonderful 💕
Many thanks