Alex English: Why doesn’t the GREATEST SCORER of the 1980s get the RESPECT HE DESERVES?? | FPP
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The 1980s were dominated by Magic Johnson’s Los Angeles Lakers and Larry Bird’s Boston Celtics, they featured one of the greatest scorers of all time throughout the decade in Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, but there was another overlooked player who throughout the decade would score the more points than anyone else; and that player is Alex English. He flew under the radar playing for the South Carolina Gamecocks, as although he was more than capable, he never put up monster numbers. He would fall to the second round of the 1976 NBA Draft where he was selected by Milwaukee. He would spend two seasons coming off the bench for the Bucks, before spending a season and a half with the Indiana Pacers, as he got his first chance at being a starter. But in 1980, he was traded to the Denver Nuggets and over the next decade, he would be one of the league’s most lethal scorers, constantly finishing at the top of the scoring leaderboards, and pouring in points at a ridiculously efficient rate. He came to Denver as David Thompson’s career was beginning to unravel, He would team with Kiki Vandeweghe and Dan Issel during the first half of his time there, then pair with Fat Lever during his later years. Denver was never able to challenge for a championship, But English would turn them into a perennial playoff team and even a Western Conference Finals berth in 1985. He would end his career with the Dallas Mavericks, but he will always be remembered as a Denver Nugget, and one of the greatest scorers to ever touch a basketball, even if he was snubbed from both the NBA’s 50th anniversary team in 1996 and their 75th anniversary team in 2021.
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22:34 That's supposed to be 54 points, not 50*
Shawn kemp pls
Amazing how so many scorers of the 80's are forgotten: English, Kiki, Kelly Tripuka, Adrian Dantley, Mark Aguirre
& Bernard King
orlando woolridge
Andrew Toney
Walter Davis!
I don't know... Dirk's was pretty damned perfect.
Alex English had the smoothest mid-range jumper in NBA history!
Unfortunately, back in the 1980s, no one outside of Colorado saw him play on a regular basis.
Thanks to this Russian channel with old basketball games I’ve been watching a lot of him lately. He reminds me of Kevin durant. Silky smooth.
We called him Flick in hs cause that's what he did. A little flick and net
Alex English, Bernard King, and Adrian Dantley were all underrated.
It sucks how few modern hoops fans know about great players in the 80's and 90's. Whether it be younger fans, (Gen Z and younger Millennials), or mainstream sport media - they all pretend as if all players worth knowing were on the Lakers, Celts, and Bad Boys Pistons for the 80's, and Bulls and Rockets in the 90's, (if your lucky the Blazers, Spurs, Knicks, and/or Jazz). The three you listed are definitely perfect examples of the great players who have been memory-holed. If i could add a few more to your trio - Xavier McDaniel, Walter Davis, Larry Nance, Ricky Pierce, Terry Cummings, Kiki Vanderwegh, Fat Lever, and Orlando Woolridge.
@@8301TheJMan 👍👍!!
Eddie Jones, Tom chambers, Kevin Johnson, Paul Westphal
@@kennethpage417 Jones was the shit man. Hornets were stupid for trading him for Mashburn. I mean Jamal was a great player too, but wasn't nearly as versatile offensively, wasn't quite as athletic, and above all - wasn't nearly as good defensively. If they hald kept Eddie for the next couple years Baron Davis blew up into a star, so with those two in the backcourt, alongside Anthony Mason, Derrick Coleman, and the ridiculously underrated Elden Campbell, plus a solid Wesley, Eddie Robinson, and an old but still good Stacy Augmon off the bench - that team coulda actually won it all.
The 80s was the era of the small forward. Bird, Erving, King, English, Worthy, Dominique Wilkins, Kelly Tripucka, Kiki Vandeweghe, Marques Johnson, Mark Aguirre, Purvis Short, Chuck Person, Mike Mitchell, Eddie Johnson. Many of them led their team and scoring.
Alex English is often overlooked but he should be celebrated as one of the greatest scorers of his time. He was a prolific scorer. His scoring prowess and impact on the game make him a true legend, even if he doesn’t always receive the recognition he deserves.🏀🏀🏀🏀
I swear this is a lot of players in every era, its just those that actually hustled on both ends of the floor that deserve recognition. I remember seeing a game where Alex was just having hands to his hips for an entire quarter whenever it was his time to play D. Dude is properly rated.
I watched Alex growing up, he was and is still the most prolific scorer. No top 50 or 75, out of the 75 you can't name 70 better scorers then Alex English. My guy forever
Being born and raised in Denver i had the pleasure of watching him during the 80s. Absolutely underrated.
FINALLY 😂😂😂😂😂. Some of us been begging for this one. You're the MVP
Exactly lol
Agreed
Crazy he didn't make either top 50 or top 75. We need a Sidney Moncrief episode
It's not crazy at all. He wasn't close to a top 50 or top 75 player.
Lol^ but yet you have a guy who road Jordan’s coattails is considered top 75. English drove his bus that alone gives him more credentials then a lot of guys in that top 75. Looking at Scottie pippen
@@dougefresh8029 Scottie Pippin was 10x better than Alex English. Sh.. dudes like Mark Aguirre and Bobby Dandridge, who aren't even in the HOF, were better than him.
@@dougefresh8029 English wasn't anybody's engine. He was playing in a run and gun, no defense, system, that inflated his and his teammates numbers.
Scottie pippen is the most overrated player of all time. He’s a good role player. Been watching a lot of Denver games thanks to this Russian channel and he’s good man. You’ve just never been a fan and that’s ok too. To me he’s a shorter kd automatic. Not phased. If you wanna discredit a guy cause he slags on defence that’s fine I’ll even get in your corner. But I’d be curious if that’s the case what your take on steph curry and the current crop of “superstars” is
Release point on that J was insane lol. I love how he would just get to his spots and raise up with defenders draped all over him and was BUCKETS
Now this is a truly Forgotten great! English is almost as good as George "Iceman" Gervin. English definitely should've been top 75 and possibly even top 50.
Marques Johnson would be a good player to do a bio on. He had crazy athleticism, highlights galore during those "low-lights era", played hard nosed D, and team ball orientated..
That high release would be even more lethal in today’s game 🔥🔥🔥
Incredible scorer. Should’ve made the Top 75 list. He would’ve absolutely LOVED to play in this modern offensive driven era of the NBA. Him and other elite scorers like Adrian Dantley, George Gervin, David Thompson, Mark Aguirre and many more.
Everyone of those players would have issues as they didn’t shoot the 3.
And he couldn’t play today at 190.
@@jamespohl-md2eq since defense isn't a thing these days, then you're dead wrong since back then it was actually a thing yet he scored like 30+ on everyone a night
@@HiNRGboyDefense is played. And you didn’t actually address the point.
@@jamespohl-md2eq you have no point fool
Hey you guy's at forgotten Athletes, thank you for this. Alex English was a scoring machine and the epitome of the teammate you would want on your team and in your locker room.
Absolutely overlooked IMO--at least by fans, media, and analysts. NBA basketball has been around for 7 decades. Alex English was one of those decades' leading scorers. I am more confident that NBA players and coaches give him his rightful props, but most people outside of that circle will not understand how good of an offensive juggernaut Alex was. Good video!
Liked him in "amazing grace & chuck",thought-provoking movie,timeless lesson.❤
“Alex English IS Amazing Grace.” - Jamie Lee Curtis.
Thank you for this video Alex English was my first favorite player of all time. Definitely a pure score and he made it look easy and smooth with his mid-range jump shot. Go Nuggets.
How do you like my player comp of Kevin durant and Alex english.
Him and Fat Lever were a handful for sure. English’s nickname was “Ole English” bc he was that smooth.
Whoever gave him that nickname never drank Ole English, I guess.
Man I’ve been shouting out Alex English a few times lately…matrix in full effect
Got to visit this man in his home his wife and kids were great people. Man deserves mad respect
Alex english is top fifty hands down
Amazing Grace and Chuck ❤
All-time best uni's ever as well. 👌🏀⛏️❤️
Everything today is about analytics and aesthetics..an era that disregards its pioneers
Alex English, Adrian Dantley and Bernard King were masters of the fundamentals. That means they didn't need highlight plays to put 28 points every night. They were also very efficient scorers. In particular Adrian Dantley is one of the best player, if not the best player, in the efficiency category, so he needed less field goals attempts to score high points than virtually anybody.
Alex English was one of the few players that increased his performance during the playoffs. That means he had a champion mentality, just like Michael Jordan and not many others. His injury during the famous series against the Lakers was an unfair twist of fate.
Thanks for highlighting this amazing player
It still boggles me how English isn't/wasn't on NBA 50/75 anniversary team. I mean scoring the most points during a decade of 80s should be a feat more than enough...
@@Biggballsdance Yeah I really don't understand how Lillard got in...
English got his due while he was playing, but he didn't have an exciting game and he also played for Denver, which in addition to being a smaller market also ran up and down the court and played no D. They were scoring in the 120s. Just check the scoring averages to start the decade.....
1984-85 120.0
1983-84 123.7
1982-83 123.2
1981-82 126.5
1980-81 121.8
I’ve been waiting for this episode thank you 🙏🏾
he has to have the highest shot release out of any foward/guard
Jeff Malone is another
True King of the Mid-Range Jumpshot. Nice video!
Alex was my dad old friend such a good ball player
I was at that Denver/Detroit game when they set the all time highest scoring game record. It was a snowy day in Denver. My friend and I decided, kinda last second, to go to the game. I think our tickets cost $12.50 each and were decent seats. It was amazing, both teams up and down the court. Kelly Tripuka hit some big shots for the Pistons. Watching who was about to foul out became huge as the OTs piled up. It was definitely a bummer that the Nuggets lost, but we knew we had just witnessed something special.
One thing I will always remember about watching Alex English, the video screens in McNicols Sports Arena would play this animation of the Pink Panther turning into English when he made one his classic jump shots...it was perfect, because Alex was sooo smooth. He was such a classy guy, humble and respectful. I was always bummed Denver stars, like English and Broncos linebacker Randy Gradishar, didn't get more attention. Btw, grats to Gradishar for making it into the NFL HOF this year!
The NBA forgot about English because of magic Bird Jordan and all the other guys but I don't understand why they didn't put him in the 50 or 75 greatest players, pretty damn sad but just like the lottery, the NBA is bias as well as rigged,I think he should have been recognized ten times over but,I'm glad someone can recognize him as well as all the other players people never heard of or forgot about. My keep these videos coming, you're doing a damn good job,I actually have an English jersey as well as a petrovic jersey, glad you did one on him as well.
Great name, great player and by all accounts, a great man! So Blessed to have watched him sparingly. But it was always in the All-Star game. Rightfully so!!! Salute to you Mr. English!
As aside, I watched Purvis Short on terrible Warriors teams, but he was the only shining light for them.
Youre killin it. Keep up the great work work! 👍🏿
I'm a lifelong Knicks fan and Bernard King is my favorite Knick of all-time. But Alex English was the most smoothest, effortless scorer of the 1980s. He's definitely one of the greatest NBA players of all-time. The 1980s was the era of the small forward, and Alex English was one of the faces of that great small forward class. An absolute legend who doesn't get respect he deserves.
He use to kill my Rockets when I was a little one
English certainly belongs on the 50 and 75 best teams. No question.
Depends. If you choose to honor the old timers there really isn't enough room for English, but if you want to kick a couple of whiteguys who were great in the 40's and 50's then you can makes some space at least on the to 50 team. Gotta remember that Dwight Howard, Parker and Ginobli, McGrady, Klay Thompson and Sidney Moncrief were passed on.
Had one of the most saught after NBA throwback jerseys too for a while...
Saw him play twice in college against Indiana and then just by chance, I was there, at Oakland, when his scoring went over 20,000.
Stellar
English is underrated but Jordan still the best scorer of the 80's
Amazing grace n chuck
I would love to see a football profile on Keyshawn Johnson. He's rarely mentioned when talked about one of the underrated players in the past 30 years or so
Probably because he rated himself high enough for everyone.
Thanks again! Your channel is amazing. The selection of profiles, so great. Let me share other interesting players : the great Pau Gasol, Terry Cummings, Chris Webber, Al Harrington, Jamal Crawford, Jeff Ruland, Spencer Haywood, Dale Ellis, Charles Smith, World Be free, Purvis short, Kiki Vandeweghe, sidney moncrief, Joe Barry Carrol, Mark Aguirre, Charles Oakley ,Reggie theus, Robert Pack, Dan Issel, Larry Nance, Walter Davies,…we want more 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Damn man...
If you're a great to superstar player in any sport and you play on mediocre to bad teams, with no consistent deep or memorable playoff runs, and you don't go into media or coaching, your career is going to be forgotten by everyone but die hard fans of the sport, and fans of the teams those players played for
Great job u earned a subscription bro
LOVE the history lessons!!!!!!!
These highlights confirm my memory of English which is that he just wasn't "exciting". He didn't seem to advance any specific aspect of the game (Bird long range shooting, Magic fast break and no look passes, MJs revolutionary new skills and athleticism), and his deadly high arc mid range game just didn't capture the imagination in the way that Bird, Magic and Jordan did. Everyone who followed the game in the 80s knew English was one of the best players in the league, of course.
If only he had some shut down defensive skills, yeah defense is a skill in team sports. There were a lot of players that scored too easily against his length and foot speed, still he could score but what was keeping him from getting 60 at least four games a season since he didn't play defense?
I knew about him. Great scorer. Didn't play a lick of defense. He had plenty of energy on offense cause he didn't waste it on D
One the greatest player in nuggets history ⛰️🏙️🔵🟡🔴⚫
Over 20,000 Career Scoring Points & Not Chosen is A Crime. His Shooting Was Swisher Sweet 😋
I think Alex English should be in the top 75 because he’s really a great scorer during the 1980s and he’s really an underrated player. I tell you what all of the Hall of Famers during in their decades when they playing where in top 75 and Alex English is the only Hall of Famer who didn’t include in the top 75.
Great video. You're right! Alex English was a tremendous scorer during the 1980s, but never gets talked about. Why? He scored more total points in the 1980s than any other player in the NBA!
He and Adrian Dantley don't get enough love
87-88 The English-led Nuggets were a legit contender. They had the second best record in the Western Conference (behind the Lakers) and same record as Detroit in their heyday. Come the 2nd round of the playoffs though, 3 of their 5 starters were out with injury and they lost to Dallas. Was my favorite Nuggets season until last year's for obvious reasons.
Everyone has their own top 50 to 75, there are several players that i would put on that list that are not on it and Alex English is definitely one of them.
Amazing Grace and Chuck
Mr English was something serious. Great player.
I absolutely love Nick Van Exel
Great shooter Denver in 80s play run gun
I miss the 80s.
I loved it. Thanks a lot. I'd love to see Josh Smith.
The University of South Carolina has put out some GREAT basketball players. My Alma Mater !
I love his release, smooth high release, you don't see that type of game no more
Crazy I never heard of him
Dreher High School in the house. I didn’t attend. We lived nearby when my family was stationed at Fort Jackson.
george gervin is also often overlooked.
Not exactly
Iceman still gets mentioned anytime we see a finger roll
Hope he see this!!
Hood favorite jersey
Dude was an effortless, efficient professional scorer that could levitate and use geometry to get his shot up. Just a relentless professional scorer. Seemed just nonchalant, as if not moving. But lethally quick.
As a prideful Tarzan of the painted area and beyond, he would have me asking Matt Barnes to turn the power off
I know there was no shot clock at that time, but some of those team stats you showed when Alex was in college are SHOCKING to me.
If you added up all of the assists I saw, it looked like as a team, South Carolina only averaged ten assists or so. Was that standard issue of that era?
Brian Grant
Do fat lever and Sydney moncrief next.
There were a ton of great forwards in the 80s: Alex English, Bernard King, Larry Nance, and Dominque to name a few. Put those guys on the Lakers or Celtics rosters and they win for sure. Just so happened the 80s were mostly dominated by these franchises.
Super slept on lefty shooter with a silky jumper from the 303. He's the main reason why his jersey is so cool to wear.
As a Lefty myself, sorry he actually isnt
@@aceassn716 different strokes for different folks. I happen to like his jersey.
@@thomasanderson3892 what @aceassn716 mean't was Alex was a righty, not a lefty.
@@michaelsimpson8010 Okay, but still he's a great shooter and extremely slept on.
Reggie Miller Chris Webber Rasheed Wallace and Charles Barkley
We need a video of Mamud Abdul Rauf formerly known as Chris Jackson!!
oh the narratives, Dame made top 75 but English didn't? he almost beat the prime showtime lakers but broke his finger. Recency bias, this guy could score 50 on 2 pointers.
Can we get an effin' Issel vid on the internet soon?
I don't think Denver was the top offense or the bottom defense. I think they just lead the league in pace. Basketball is possession based. You have to use offensive rating or points per 100 possessions. You'll find that the Lakers were the top offense of the decade and Denver's defense was never the NBA's worst.
Larry Bird, Alex English, and Bernard King are the 3 greatest small forwards of all time.
I think Alex's reputation suffered a bit because he played in Denver. The joke back in the 80s was that they were the Enver Nuggets cause there was no "D" in Denver. They routinely scored crazy amounts of points but they always seemed to give up more to the other team.
Alex English would score the quietest 30 points you ever saw. Should be a Hall of Famer if he isn't already
Can we get a Forgotten Player Profile on Mark Eaton? We need more on him, one of the greatest shot blockers.
Hes a Lefty as well 💪🏽
Someone said it in the comments. Adrian Dantley and Bernard King. Especially Bernard King. Especially all three of them! They all would bust that ass on the court.
A very good player. But difficult to impossible to find someone who you could remove off the top 50 or 75 to make a spot for him.
He got overlooked because playing in Denver the media ignored him
Winters was the oldest of the trio @3:24. Lmao. English, Winters and Dunleavy.
Could you please make a Clyde drexler video?
Was that nick van exel at the beginning?
Yes Nick the quick Lefty Van Axel
3,2,1…. Cancun!!!
George Gervin was vastly overlooked as well. I can't understand why?
You know the team English should of done everything in his power to be traded to? the 1980's Rockets, Olajuwon, English and for a few years there, Ralph Sampson could have been devastating.
I think he is underappreciated bc (1) he had a reputation as a poor defensive players, and (2) his stats were inflated to some degree by the high pace at which the 1980's Nuggets played. One of my favorites, however.
That's called pacing, if he was scoring he was hard to defend.
Flick is definitely one of the best
Overlooked? Yes. Because Denver.
Terry Cummings please and Thank you
he was a bucket.....