Post Office Scandal: Alan Bates Calls Compensation Offer ‘Cruel and Derisory’ | Good Morning Britain
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- Alan Bates, the former Sub-postmaster who is at the heart of the fight for justice in the post office Horizon scandal, has said today he will reject the compensation offered to him by the government.
He got the offer yesterday afternoon and Mr. Bates says it was one-sixth of the amount he requested. He says it is cruel and derisory.
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The post office ruined this man's life, and they are still trying to rip him and others off. These government officials still don't get it.
With respect they DO get it and a frightened at the size of bill they re going to have to pay out.
They’re punishing him.
@@coolhandlukegbrthey're not paying it. We are.
I think they do get it. Just ducking and diving. At best ladder climbers who couldn't organise a queue to the loo
I totally agree. Has anyone asked the question if and when compensation is payed out will tax be deducted. Every payment must be tax free or is this another part of the scandal?
75k for 25 years of abuse is shameful!
Min £1million per head
yes plus interest good luck you will need it
Agreed. I would say 1.5 million. Mortgages paid or homes which were lost bought a happy stress free holiday and Christmas presents for the children or University fees paid. All I hear is Enquiry after enquiry. Hand wringing.
The Sub Postmasters should each receive a separate amount from Fujitsu.
At least a million each plus what the PO stole from them with 10% compound interest on it, plus a deeply grovelling apology from the PO, and finally the whole Post Office to be scrapped and replaced with a decent organisation instead of the current vile setup.
Make the post office pay the legal costs of the litigants. Charge the people who lied about these postmaster's.
Can't pay the proper financial redress to the subpostmasters, but apparently ok to spend millions of taxpayers money on lawyers to defend the Post Office
I suspect that they are using public fund purely to protect their reputations. This should never be allowed.
Please please please get these conservatives out of office
U got it. it's a disgrace. i'm not from the UK but this sorry saga of injustice has my blood boiling. it's a shocker. the innocent PM deserve all profits from the tv show.
Wow - 2024 and still with this kind of response. The people in charge - STILL DON'T CARE ABOUT DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.
It’s just the system, the civil service is immune to criticism because it can call on unlimited public funds for defending its self. It is high time that criminal charges are used to stop civil servants defending the system by outspending in court those seeking justice. It is in the interest of all politicians to get this mess sorted, it is the civil service that is at fault and heads should roll.
The government are still not listening. I have never been so angry about anything every before, and I'm knocking on a bit.
Yet again, the little people have to fight for what is rightly theirs. Shame on you at Westminster!
@monipenny408 In the West, Marxism continues to be appreciated as a critique of market capitalism...so says Britannica.
Told yers they would mess it up .. and they have started off their latest mess with an insulting offer to the remarkable and brilliant Mr Bates. Disgraceful
The post office and government have no intention of paying these workers a realistic settlement, it stinks, but the solicitors are earning ridiculous amounts, shame on them all
Its time the lawyers worked pro bono
Can you imagine the millions needed to pay the litigators from the first ruling.? The post office workers ended up with £20,000 each only!
This compensation amount is just disgusting and appalling! SHAME! SHAME!
The repayment and compensation needs to come from the PO and Fujitsu bosses and shareholders, not from our pockets.
very true.
The shareholder is the government
Totally agree & they should be prosecuted! It is a complete scandal!
as well as the greedy lawyers
Totally agree
The government is either WEAK, or doesn't care. Both are completely unacceptable for a British government to be in 2024.
British society does not care : “I’m alright Jack !” Attitudes prevail. They care more about their dogs than fellow human beings …
they're corrupt to the core, and they are weak and they do not care, they don't dwell in the house of either or they are THE most sinister cronies
In other words Sunak and his dippy minstrels are going to make the victims of the scandal fight again and again for redress.🤬🤬🤬
They obviously didn't want to set a precedent with a 'high' offer to Alan Bates. Absolutely disgusting. This brave man is just a thorn in their side . . .
Do you honestly thing they are going to be treated fairly ? I have been listening to the inquiry and some of what I’ve heard is disgusting . The post office and fujitsu knew whats happening
They did and used it to extort money from the honest hardworking subpostmasters.
Over a million pounds for each of them. More if they’ve been wrongly prosecuted. Then Mr Bates and cohorts need to charge POL and Fujitsu at an hourly rate back dated to when they began for all the investigative work they have done.
A million is chump change. This isn't the 1990s anymore.
And a million for the family's of those post masters who have died, two million for the family's of those who committed suicide.
WELL SAID
They can't do things overnight! They could award a CBE to Paula Vennells overnight!
It’s beggars belief how the government will not play ball in cases such as this. Even when these people have been swindled out of their life savings and the loss of homes for the past twenty years or more great British justice for you. Shame on the government for brushing this under the carpet for years and if they have any shred of decency do what’s right.
Yet another mouthpiece talking absolute verbal diarrhoea. She's deflecting and still defending the compensation levels offered to the victims which is wholly offensive. Nothing she said is worth anything to the victims in this case. Complete garbage.
Spot on
is this how bad our MP,s are nowa day, s she would never get a job in the private sector
Trotting out garbage as usual, pay them out Now.
Just dragging this out and out.
They should all try to get as much as they possible can even if it bankrupts the Post Office
Fujitsu need to put their hand in their pockets as well.
@@bigpants6121 Absolutely! The company has made millions on the back of their flawed software and they're still being granted contracts! They should pay all compensation and restitution, even if ruins their business. They lied and were quite happy to continue as if nothing had happened. If Fujitsu is not made to pay, it will be the taxpayer (yet again) forking out for the misconduct of a private company. I'd also be interested to know which members, if any, of the government have links to the firm.
fujitsu are meant to be sorting out a compensation package
Well said
Settle down 😂
Typical of this lousy Tory government that in reality would prefer to kick the entire episode into the long grass,i bet they curse that pesky ITV drama everyday.
To blame just the Tories is to not see the whole picture or to cynically use the scandal to gain political advantage for your chosen party. To not remember the part of your political party in this scandal is just dishonest.
I'm pretty sure Alan put in over twenty years of work after he lost his job to get to where it is today, all unpaid and brought about by the scandal...
Pay the man!
This lady sounds exactly like Rishi Sunak...
Pay the man and pay them all. Rishi could put a large chunk in from his personal fund as a gesture of goodwill and intent.
Laura Trott all hot air and bumbling on and on, while digging a very large hole for herself.
waterstones of space she should have stayed in bed
Who briefed her for this? You would have thought that the one person that they would have made sure that they got it right for Alan Bates.
For a start this shouldn’t be an inquiry it should be a criminal investigation. I doubt if anyone will be prosecuted and most of the compensation will be paid for by the taxpayers. Which will be another scandal. There are those who have got rich out of the suffering of others. I also doubt if any of those will be given the correct amount of compensation.
I agree the main characters from the issues coming to light should be held criminally accountable
Absolutely disgusted by this. Fujitsu MUST pay a large proportion of the compensation PLUS the Top Management at the PO Paula Vennells and co should loose what the Postmasters have lost and pay back their large bonuses. £75K is less than what one of the lawyers current involved in the inquiry earn in a year.
£75k to these lawyers is chicken feed. Did you see the bill of £42 million for lawyers had to come out of the original payout!
Whats the point in even having ministers on when they dodge every question. Why dont you just repeatedly ask them and make them look silly until they answer the question
Disgusting they should be getting millions
If you try and rip HMRC off they make you pay back what you owe plus a very a considerable penalty cost. The same should apply to the Post Office.
Justice will not be served until the senior members of the Post Office receive jail time twice what any post master served, a considerable fine and loss of their pensions.
That insane woman is a complete waste of space. How many times did she mention the Inquiry as one reason to do nothing. The government wants the victims to die before they see compensation.
remember she was one when interviewed spreading lies about things like fighting against a non-existent meat tax and car sharing !!! she is also one who attended posh dinners with post office directors and horizon reps, so very cozy with them
Dont you just love this current government, allow the process to run before they intervene. What an absolute waste of space MPs. You made this people bankrupt, the least you can do is restore them back to where they should be and then compensate them. instead of offering One-Sixth of what you took away from him. Shame on the Post-Office and the Tory government.
Derisory is an understatement.
Alan and his wife have lost 20 years of their lives fighting this case.
The goverment should be paying them a 20 year consultancy fee for identifying the issues with horizon and the training and communication problems within the post office.
Alan has saved the tax payer millions by holding Fujitsu accountable and the government minsters who keep giving them billions in contracts.
Alan should bill them 200k per year for the work he has done.
Don't these MP realise the whole world is watching the UK and our so called justice system.
They should all be getting at least £600,000, not just those who were convicted.
"can't make things happen overnight in government," she moans. YES, you can ...when it's pay rises etc for yourselves!
Had she'd been imprisoned for any amount of time, never mind losing life's labours efforts, when entirely innocent, I imagine she'd be singing from another sheet entirely.
@@suzyqualcast6269 Exactly Suzy. And, ...She and her uppity cronies would have the means and the Lawyers on their side too.
For Heavens Sake - why are these people prevaricating! It is disgusting what this government has done and is continuing to do.
How do they sleep, never ceases to amaze !!!!!
The Government states it will pay £600K to former Sub Postmasters who where wrongly convicted. It is clear that any Sub Postmaster sacked from their role for 'defrauding' the Post Office had been incorrectly charged by the Post Office and therefore should also be entitled to £600K compensation. Regrettably this Government is complicit in the whole Post Office scandal and would rather hide behind offering Tax cuts at the next Budget than fairly compensating hard working people whose lives have been destroyed by the Post Office and Government inaction.
Trott should just trott off.
how does she keep her job gives the women MP,s a bad name .
Tory integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level???
VIP lane for PPE only!
She seems to be saying one thing and doing another... pathetic and unelectable, this governments promises mean nothing.
the post office and fujitsu should be made to compensate all of them and given a time line when it should complete DO THE THE RIGHT THING AND PAY UP !
This Conservative government is just going to drag it out in the hope that these people will die or go away as they have done in the case of the WASPI women pension scandal so they don't have to pay them what they are rightfully due, and to use that money to give themselves a tax cut!
I agree it's disgusting
just like the contaminated blood scandal.
Regardless of which party is in power, the government would behave in the same manner. The problem is with the state apparatus. It is designed to short-change and rip people off. A change of party in power will do nothing to alter that. They're all the same.
Just like Grenfell, Windrush, Hillsborough, Covid ... and on... and on.
Can't stand susanna....she never gets in the thick of it always nicey nicey...zzzz
they can't give too much away it'll mean less for them and their mates.
The people should hold a protest for these ppl
Solicitors lawyers, and insurance are amongst the the biggest rip of merchants in the land insurance industry is nothing more than a legalised protection racket.
Time for the Tories to go-full stop, they just don’t cut it.
it beggets believe that these tories do not get it. SHAMEFUL .
Yes. This started under a Labour government. You are aware of this, I assume?
@@rogerflack415 but labour are currently not in power to do anything however the Tories claimed they were all over this but that’s turning out to be another of their many lies.
And you think labour will?!
@@DorsetPropertyTV Don’t think there’ll be anything left for Labour to even attempt to fix after the damage these criminals have inflicted.
If not for allen Bates they might have got away with this injustice
WHO IS SHE ....WHO IS SHE ....WHO IS SHE ........BLAH .....BLAH ....BLAH ..........
A waste of a highly paid job
She is talking a pack of lies, they hope it will get swept under the carpet.
They can get 100 billion for energy companies who btw are making record profits whilst recieving it. The corruption and cronyism in this country is on banana republic levels. The whole thing has to be dismantled and rebuilt.
She looks like shes been thrown under the bus being sent out to defend this, just more fees paid to government lawyers
This show how much out of touch the tories are
This Government is a disgrace
Before any compensation can be agreed the monies the post office STOLE off of the postmasters needs to be given back.Then and only then can they agree a compenstion package for everything that has happened to them
I agree
Totally agree. Stolen asserts should be returned first and foremost.
Then a truly independent investigation into who the real criminals were, and prosecutions should follow.
Then, and only then, can the real situation allow the compensation figure to properly reflect this catastrophic miscarriage of justice.
Actions speak louder than words. Give them what you dutifully owe them, not just what they lost financially but also for the distress and damage to their good character!
Only going to be one winner out of this injustice that's the money grabbing lawyers
yes they are disgraceful greedy people
That fact makes my blood boil
They should be working pro bono by now. They've had their pound of flesh!
You can be pretty sure that any compensation money from Fujitsu will be kept by the government, not passed on to the postmasters!
She makes Helen Whatley look bright 🙃
Both are extremely dense. Piers Morgan slaughtered Whatley without even trying!
the house of lords are dragging their heels over any prosecution's of the guilty directors and others involved
I hope I'm wrong but I can easily see that in a years time the situation will be the same. No compensation or other payments made.
Two words...... Grenfell..... Windrush.....
Govt is no doubt hoping by offering insulting compensation that the sub-postmasters then have to continue to fight, it will drop off the public radar and be swept under the carpet with Grenfell and Windrush.........
Despicable
There's still the contaminated blood scandal to deal with. List goes on.
Given the recent television series and subsequent publicity any competent management would have realised that this offer may be a little contentious and would have made sure they got it right.
It's time to fire the people in charge and get in some who will take responsibility for their actions.
The offer is pathetic, govt ducking & diving once again 🤔
The amount his accountants came up with is quite modest considering his business was ruined and reputation destroyed for 20 years - 75k is a disgrace of a 'settlement'. An awful lot of people lined their pockets at the postmasters expense, time to cough up.
Sickening….
All mouth and trousers as someone once said ! Could these Ministers get any worse ?
Excuse after excuse to simply delay and delay. It is a disgrace to all those involved in NOT putting right this situation which is a quarter of a century in the making and still counting. With an election looming, the voting public will remember this travesty. Lets also remember that this government has been in power for over 12 years, so they cannot blame others. Absolute disgrace
Empty promises by criminals.
Give every last penny back including interest, every penny. Why are people battling for compensation where every other public servant snout is getting paid.
Fujitsu AND TONY BLAIR! What were his BENEFITS in his association with Fujitsu - we want to know. Why should BLAIR get away with this?
Repayment of sums made out of pocket to compensate for computer errors, plus interest at compound rates over the years should be made within weeks. Compensation is another entirely seperate issue. I suspect that the 1bn allegedly suggested for compensation is way out, nearer 10bn than 1bn will be needed, take it frim tge HS2 racket and the prosecuting lawyers, as individuals aswell as their firms who failed to do a professional job
All smoke and mirror from the government spokesperson. She said absolutely nothing we dont already know. Pathetic really thats the best they can do.
Minimum of £1.5m for those that felt they had to take their lives, £1m each for those that went to prison. £750k each for those that did not.
BUT WHEN. DELAYING TACTICS
Every knock back should double and compound the final settlement
This Laura Trott doesn't appear to get it but seems to be only going through the motions! Brent Collins.
Not sure how she allows herself to be put in this spot. The govt doesn’t get this despite being responsible for it. Absolutely pathetic.
Government couldn't care less
Unbelievable. What a state this countries systems are in. Nothings simple?
You know she is lieing her mouth is moving😊
Question: If remote access or covert access wast in the contract, would they have signed said contract? If remote access is not in the contract, would this be considered a breach of contract?
Disgusting behaviour of this government get the post office minister on your programme
Just all waffle just cough up its that simple your in the wrong now put it right
In the US this would be in millions
£75,000 ?! Nooo, each Sub Post Master/Mistress should be given £1,000,000
Do a proper class action lawsuit against the Post Office. Also, WE THE PEOPLE should get behind these sub-postmasters and boycott the Post office. I'd also start a class action against Fujitsu.
Hugely disappointed by this "Governments failure in having the integrity and the wisdom of clearly doing the right thing here. Perhaps its time we had a new "Government" that were seriously listening and acting in the best interest of our Nation.
The "Conservatives" are leaving a mess behind so that no one will want to take on this mess they have caused.
That compensation was worked out by Horizon.
I am so glad this robot is my elected representative she's got an MBE too so she must be good!!!
good at what?!
to get an MBE at 30 and to be parachuted into one of the safest a Tory seats in the country you've got to be good at something.... stands to reason ,don't it@@bigpants6121
@@bigpants6121good at appearing to look human 😂
When the Sub Post Office Managers first took the Post Office to Court, as seen in the TV Drama, they Won their case against the Post Office, and were awarded many Millions of pounds in Compensation, but after the Court fee's were taken out, they were only left with £20,000 to each of the Managers? The thing I don't understand is, that they Won the case in Court, then why did they have to pay Court Fee's, I thought the Post Office, who lost the case in Court would have to pay all the Court Fee's, and the Winners Fee's and expenses. I've always assumed the losers in any Court case have to pay all the Court Fee's and all the Winners Fee's and expenses? Can anyone please explain if I have got my facts wrong, or just misunderstood what happened in this particular Court case?
I was also confused by that and totally gob smacked at the £42m due in fees
Surely they should get back the money that they had to put in to cover the “ shortfall “ , which was actually taken off then illegally. Then they should have compensation on top. Did the management have to wait this length of time for their excessive bonuses ? I doubt it, they would not have stood for it , so why have those that have been treated illegally have to wait?
It’s disgusting, shame on the government!
T he government can dish out a over 8 million pounds a day of our money to illegal's as quick as you like but these poor hard working pillars of the community have to fight for the injustice brought on them by crooks, who were /are heads of the post office, it stinks.
£70,000 for each year sounds more like it. Plus the Post Office or Fujitsu should pay ALL the legal costs
Habba Yabba Yabba, just get these people the money they are owed.
Treasury minister with no straight answers, and zero accountability. For something as significant as this to not cross the desk of senior leaders to drive clear, fair and quick resolution shows a lack of character, leadership and values. This is quickly becoming a referendum on bureaucratic incompetence. The unwillingness of government leaders to be accountable to the public. Their willingness to hide behind their lackeys and obfuscated processes and spend hundreds of millions of pounds on legal fees all to escape culpability, dither, relish in bureaucracy's Byzantine ladders of complexity. They don’t mind spending billions of pounds of our money on systems that don’t work, on legal fees to defend the indefensible, for salaries and bonuses and payouts to criminal executives and their bureaucratic/business enablers, etcetera. And they think they’re showing us value by being scant on payouts in response to forensically audited compensation requests. And then further litigating and drawing this out further in time and fees for many more months?!?! Who is this woman?! Quickly shaping up to be another scandal, this lack of leadership and character will bleed out into more scandal.
This is an insult
Thank goodness this lousy government will soon be gone